Kitchen cabinets are going to take up the most visual space. They are
eye level, and they hold everything that people are looking for
(except cold food and drinks). They are the elephant in the room.
Every cabinet remodel is a project in either attracting the best
attention to your cabinets (because who wants their eyes caught by
ugly cabinetry?), or to downplay the cabinetry with some softer colors
in order to highlight some great countertops like granite, brushed
steel, or butcher block.
So the real question becomes?do you want to highlight or tone down?
The two things that people are going to be looking at, with respect to
your cabinet remodel, are the hardware and the doors. No one is going
to be eyeballing the sides, the insides, the kickplates, or the backs.
The doors are where most of the cabinet budget will settle, especially
with wood cabinets.
Hardware. This is can one of the most deceptive areas of hidden costs
for cabinet remodels. Good hardware isn't cheap, and if you want your
kitchen cabinet remodeling to be high end, then you need to get the
right hardware to go with it. Research the market and cabinet stores
for what is out there to determine what you like. If you can't find
what you like, you can have your cabinet pulls custom made. Remember,
the price goes up for the cabinet remodel, but then again nobody else
will have hardware quite like yours.
[URL="http://www.baumshomeimprovements.com"]Baum's Home Improvements[/
URL]
www.baumshomeimprovements.com
.
Man:
Morning!
Waitress:
Morning!
Man:
Well, what've you got?
Waitress:
Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and hardware;
egg bacon and hardware; egg bacon sausage and hardware; hardware bacon
sausage and hardware; hardware egg hardware hardware bacon and
hardware; hardware sausage hardware hardware bacon hardware tomato and
hardware;
Vikings:
hardware hardware hardware hardware...
Waitress:
...hardware hardware hardware egg and hardware; hardware hardware
hardware hardware hardware hardware baked beans hardware hardware
hardware...
Vikings:
hardware! Lovely hardware! Lovely hardware!
Waitress:
...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a
Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle
pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and hardware.
Wife:
Have you got anything without hardware?
Waitress:
Well, there's hardware egg sausage and hardware, that's not got much
hardware in it.
Wife:
I don't want ANY hardware!
Man:
Why can't she have egg bacon hardware and sausage?
Wife:
THAT'S got hardware in it!
Man:
Hasn't got as much hardware in it as hardware egg sausage and
hardware, has it?
Vikings:
hardware hardware hardware hardware... (Crescendo through next few
lines...)
Wife:
Could you do the egg bacon hardware and sausage without the hardware
then?
Waitress:
Urgghh!
Wife:
What do you mean 'Urgghh'? I don't like hardware!
Vikings:
Lovely hardware! Wonderful hardware!
Waitress:
Shut up!
Vikings:
Lovely hardware! Wonderful hardware!
Waitress:
Shut up! (Vikings stop) Bloody Vikings! You can't have egg bacon
hardware and sausage without the hardware.
Wife:
I don't like hardware!
Man:
Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your hardware. I love it.
I'm having hardware hardware hardware hardware hardware hardware
hardware beaked beans hardware hardware hardware and hardware!
Vikings:
hardware hardware hardware hardware. Lovely hardware! Wonderful
hardware!
Waitress:
Shut up!! Baked beans are off.
Man:
Well could I have her hardware instead of the baked beans then?
Waitress:
You mean hardware hardware hardware hardware hardware hardware... (but
it is too late and the Vikings drown her words)
Vikings:
(Singing elaborately...) hardware hardware hardware hardware. Lovely
hardware! Wonderful hardware! hardware hardware hardware. Lovely
hardware! Lovely hardware! Lovely hardware! Lovely hardware! Lovely
hardware! hardware hardware hardware hardware!
On Mar 3, 7:33 pm, "Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > .
> > Man:
> > Morning!
> > Waitress:
> > Morning!
> > Man:
> > Well, what've you got?
> > Waitress:
> > Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and hardware;
>
> saaaaaaaa-NIP!
>
> LOL. Please tell me you cut and pasted most of that, I'd hate to think you
> spent that much typing time to give Spamboy his comeuppance.
>
> B.
A complete C&V after I did a search and replace in TextEdit... took
all of a minute.
On Mar 4, 6:41 pm, "Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]> wrote:
Buddy, ol' bro'.... it is fine if mr. baum had something to
offer....and he may just have something to offer.
The problem lies in the fact that he also tries to 'educate us' in how-
to make a selection.
We know shit when we see it, and we know good stuff when we see it.
But never try to explain to us what 'quality is' and 'isn't'....we
know bloody well what quality is.
There is nothing worse than some schmuck telling me what it is I like.
I KNOW what I like.
Condescending mofos irk me....'case you hadn't noticed.
r
Buddy Matlosz wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> .
>> Man:
>> Morning!
>> Waitress:
>> Morning!
>> Man:
>> Well, what've you got?
>> Waitress:
>> Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and hardware;
>
> saaaaaaaa-NIP!
>
> LOL. Please tell me you cut and pasted most of that, I'd hate to think you
> spent that much typing time to give Spamboy his comeuppance.
>
> B.
'scuse me, but I thought that occasional advs. were acceptable in this
newsgroup. The only real problem I would have with what he said was his
'sneak it in at the end' way of saying it. If he'd just have said "Hey
... I sell cabinet hardware and can make up customs stuff ... c'mon by"
I wouldn't have any problem at all with it.
Or are we strictly a no-commerce zone?
Bill
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is worth a **** unless backed up with enough genuine information to make
him really know what he's talking about.
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"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 00:13:08 -0500, "Buddy Matlosz"
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On 3 Mar 2007 14:31:30 -0800, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>
> >> .. snip
> >> >Hardware. This is can one of the most deceptive areas of hidden costs
> >> >for cabinet remodels. Good hardware isn't cheap, and if you want your
> >> >kitchen cabinet remodeling to be high end, then you need to get the
> >> >right hardware to go with it. Research the market and cabinet stores
> >> >for what is out there to determine what you like. If you can't find
> >> >what you like, you can have your cabinet pulls custom made. Remember,
> >> >the price goes up for the cabinet remodel, but then again nobody else
> >> >will have hardware quite like yours.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Then again, I'd probably go with Lee Valley, Horton Brass, or Van
> >Dyke's.
> >> Folks that I know provide quality hardware and aren't spamming piece's
o'
> >> excrement. [but then, that's just me]
> >>
> >I'm not sure, but I think you just called yourself a spamming piece o'
> >excrement.
> >
>
> I'm not sure how so.
>
First you mentioned a spamming piece o' excrement, then you said "that's
just me". Just one way to interpret it, thought I'm sure it wasn't the one
intended.
B.
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 00:13:08 -0500, "Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 3 Mar 2007 14:31:30 -0800, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> .. snip
>> >Hardware. This is can one of the most deceptive areas of hidden costs
>> >for cabinet remodels. Good hardware isn't cheap, and if you want your
>> >kitchen cabinet remodeling to be high end, then you need to get the
>> >right hardware to go with it. Research the market and cabinet stores
>> >for what is out there to determine what you like. If you can't find
>> >what you like, you can have your cabinet pulls custom made. Remember,
>> >the price goes up for the cabinet remodel, but then again nobody else
>> >will have hardware quite like yours.
>> >
>>
>> Then again, I'd probably go with Lee Valley, Horton Brass, or Van
>Dyke's.
>> Folks that I know provide quality hardware and aren't spamming piece's o'
>> excrement. [but then, that's just me]
>>
>I'm not sure, but I think you just called yourself a spamming piece o'
>excrement.
>
I'm not sure how so.
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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> .
> Man:
> Morning!
> Waitress:
> Morning!
> Man:
> Well, what've you got?
> Waitress:
> Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and hardware;
saaaaaaaa-NIP!
LOL. Please tell me you cut and pasted most of that, I'd hate to think you
spent that much typing time to give Spamboy his comeuppance.
B.
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 3 Mar 2007 14:31:30 -0800, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> .. snip
> >Hardware. This is can one of the most deceptive areas of hidden costs
> >for cabinet remodels. Good hardware isn't cheap, and if you want your
> >kitchen cabinet remodeling to be high end, then you need to get the
> >right hardware to go with it. Research the market and cabinet stores
> >for what is out there to determine what you like. If you can't find
> >what you like, you can have your cabinet pulls custom made. Remember,
> >the price goes up for the cabinet remodel, but then again nobody else
> >will have hardware quite like yours.
> >
>
> Then again, I'd probably go with Lee Valley, Horton Brass, or Van
Dyke's.
> Folks that I know provide quality hardware and aren't spamming piece's o'
> excrement. [but then, that's just me]
>
I'm not sure, but I think you just called yourself a spamming piece o'
excrement.
B.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mar 4, 6:41 pm, "Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Buddy, ol' bro'.... it is fine if mr. baum had something to
> offer....and he may just have something to offer.
> The problem lies in the fact that he also tries to 'educate us' in how-
> to make a selection.
> We know shit when we see it, and we know good stuff when we see it.
> But never try to explain to us what 'quality is' and 'isn't'....we
> know bloody well what quality is.
>
> There is nothing worse than some schmuck telling me what it is I like.
>
> I KNOW what I like.
>
> Condescending mofos irk me....'case you hadn't noticed.
>
Last time I checked, I was agreeing with you. You sure you're responding to
the right person?
B.
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> As you mentioned, if the guy had been up front and simply said, "hey, I
> sell cabinet hardware and can make custom hardware, if interested, contact
> me at BR-549" and then also contributed to the group, he'd have probably
> gotten some business instead of the business.
Excellent Hee-Haw reference, by the way.
todd
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:41:51 -0500, "Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 00:13:08 -0500, "Buddy Matlosz"
><[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> On 3 Mar 2007 14:31:30 -0800, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> .. snip
>> >> >Hardware. This is can one of the most deceptive areas of hidden costs
>> >> >for cabinet remodels. Good hardware isn't cheap, and if you want your
>> >> >kitchen cabinet remodeling to be high end, then you need to get the
>> >> >right hardware to go with it. Research the market and cabinet stores
>> >> >for what is out there to determine what you like. If you can't find
>> >> >what you like, you can have your cabinet pulls custom made. Remember,
>> >> >the price goes up for the cabinet remodel, but then again nobody else
>> >> >will have hardware quite like yours.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Then again, I'd probably go with Lee Valley, Horton Brass, or Van
>> >Dyke's.
>> >> Folks that I know provide quality hardware and aren't spamming piece's
>o'
>> >> excrement. [but then, that's just me]
>> >>
>> >I'm not sure, but I think you just called yourself a spamming piece o'
>> >excrement.
>> >
>>
>> I'm not sure how so.
>>
>First you mentioned a spamming piece o' excrement, then you said "that's
>just me". Just one way to interpret it, thought I'm sure it wasn't the one
>intended.
>
Certainly not the way it was intended and I thought the punctuation would
have been clear. i.e., indicating that I would choose certain vendors
because of their characteristics, then the editorial parenthetical remark
indicating that's just how I would do business.
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On 3 Mar 2007 14:31:30 -0800, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
.. snip
>Hardware. This is can one of the most deceptive areas of hidden costs
>for cabinet remodels. Good hardware isn't cheap, and if you want your
>kitchen cabinet remodeling to be high end, then you need to get the
>right hardware to go with it. Research the market and cabinet stores
>for what is out there to determine what you like. If you can't find
>what you like, you can have your cabinet pulls custom made. Remember,
>the price goes up for the cabinet remodel, but then again nobody else
>will have hardware quite like yours.
>
Then again, I'd probably go with Lee Valley, Horton Brass, or Van Dyke's.
Folks that I know provide quality hardware and aren't spamming piece's o'
excrement. [but then, that's just me]
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 01:02:36 -0500, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Buddy Matlosz wrote:
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> .
>>> Man:
>>> Morning!
>>> Waitress:
>>> Morning!
>>> Man:
>>> Well, what've you got?
>>> Waitress:
>>> Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and hardware;
>>
>> saaaaaaaa-NIP!
>>
>> LOL. Please tell me you cut and pasted most of that, I'd hate to think you
>> spent that much typing time to give Spamboy his comeuppance.
>>
>> B.
>
>'scuse me, but I thought that occasional advs. were acceptable in this
>newsgroup. The only real problem I would have with what he said was his
>'sneak it in at the end' way of saying it. If he'd just have said "Hey
>... I sell cabinet hardware and can make up customs stuff ... c'mon by"
>I wouldn't have any problem at all with it.
>
It was definitely the method. There are two sets of spammers that really
get people riled up. The first is the "gooolleee, lookee at the reaaally
coool site I just found" and then proceed to post the link to their
commercial website. These spammers are typically pretty transparent and
stupid as the posting site they are using is hosted by the same ISP as
their website. In some cases, they are so blatent that their return mail
or other identifying characteristics are directly linked or traceable to
the spammed business. The second breed of spammer is the one such as that
above; provide an initial informational hook then sap people with your
business site.
As you mentioned, if the guy had been up front and simply said, "hey, I
sell cabinet hardware and can make custom hardware, if interested, contact
me at BR-549" and then also contributed to the group, he'd have probably
gotten some business instead of the business. I know that I would have
liked to have spoken to someone like him when I was trying to come up with
some hardware for my captain's bed. I had an idea that I couldn't find
commercially but couldn't find anyone who would do something like that.
But, I won't do business with spammers, period dot.
>Or are we strictly a no-commerce zone?
>
>Bill
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