I had read the description before. I just meant that I had never used it so
couldn't comment on it. The original suggestion for this software was not
serious. I knew that chances of the hobiest using it were pretty slim. I
intend to get a copy myself though. I do have a considerable bit of
experience with solid modeling.
"Rico" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> CW wrote:
> > http://www.brlcad.com/
> > I don't know anything about it. I downloaded the form but haven't sent
it in
> > yet.
>
> It's a 3d solid modeling Cad program optimized to do solid
> modeling for the study of ballistic properties of vehicles
> and structures.
>
> Description here:
>
> http://ftp.arl.army.mil/brlcad/overview.html
>
> I haven't used it, but have known quite a few people who
> did. It has a steep learning curve and I don't know of
> anyone who uses it by choice.
>
> The gummnt developed it so that contractors and their own
> people would have a Cad system tailered to their needs and
> they wouldn't have to deal with input form contractors in
> umpty zillion formats. When you are letting out multi
> mission dollar contracts, you can get the bidders to use
> your Cad system.
>
> Summary: Learning BRL Cad would be a good learning
> experiance for the advanced CAD user with extensive 3D
> experiance or solid modeling experiance, but it's not well
> suited to the needs of the casual woodworker.
>
> Rico
>
>
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I can give you 2 web sites to check out the programs. However, the versions
are for evaluation and may not give you enough rope to satisfy your needs.
There is no time limit and you can use the evaluation programs all you want.
Basically you are limited to the amount of pieces that can be used.
Take a look at
www.sheetlayout.com
and
http://cutlistplus.com/download.aspx
The later IMHO is the better of the 2 at the moment and absolutely has the
best upgrade policy if you decide to buy a copy. Both are reasonably priced
in several different levels of need.
"Nathan Gutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
> plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
> freeware or shareware that I could use?
> I can not justify buying such software for this project.
> Thanks.
this should not be a problem.
the address info is not validated, give them info that does not exist.
go get a hotmail account and then delete it after you download.
anyway if you consider the 2 - 3 email they MIGHT send you as spam then
you could filter them. this is a legite company and has been around for
a long time.
BRuce
Dennis [email protected] wrote:
> No thanks. They want my address and they want to
> send me email notices (that I can unsubscribe but
> only after receiving them).
>
> Dennis Vogel
>
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:A%[email protected]...
>
>>Finally found it. Go here: http://nct.digitalriver.com/fulfill/0002.16
>>for the free (2D) version of Turbocad. It does not expire. Comes with user
>>manual.
>>"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:qRt9b.362107$Oz4.137402@rwcrnsc54...
>>
>>>The trial version is what he was refering to. There is also Version 4
>>>Professional that is fully functional and free. Quite good.
>>>"Dennis [email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>"Igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman
>
> <[email protected]>
>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
>>>>>>plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
>>>>>>freeware or shareware that I could use?
>>>>>>I can not justify buying such software for this project.
>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there
>
> are
>
>>>>>others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of
>>
>>TurboCAD,
>>
>>>>>http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/ any
>>
>>ap
>>
>>>>>there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper. HTH.
>>>>
>>>>Where's the free download? I see a trial version of TurboCad.
>>>>Is that what you mean?
>>>>
>>>>Dennis Vogel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
>plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
>freeware or shareware that I could use?
Graph paper.
Barry
Keep in mind that they are giving you the software to use in
return, unlike those that just harvest email addresses off the
internet...
irax.
Dennis [email protected] wrote:
> No thanks. They want my address and they want to
> send me email notices (that I can unsubscribe but
> only after receiving them).
"Nathan Gutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
> plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
When I was evaluating CutList Plus - I broke it up into Multiple projects to
fit within the 5 item minium. My parts were good sized, yours may not be.
http://www.brlcad.com/
I don't know anything about it. I downloaded the form but haven't sent it in
yet.
"Traves W. Coppock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:54:15 GMT, "CW" <[email protected]>
> Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>
> snip
> >shortcommings). I could give you the URL to download the US Governments
own
> >cad program (yes, they have one). It's free. All you have to do is fill
out
> >a seven page form and fax it to them.
>
> snip
>
> Hey, i'd like to see that one myself,,,care to post it?
>
> T.
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
>plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
>freeware or shareware that I could use?
>I can not justify buying such software for this project.
>Thanks.
For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there are
others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of TurboCAD,
http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/ any ap
there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper. HTH.
I have an older version of TurboCAD. Can TurboCAD optimize a layout
i.e decide what is the most efficient arrangement of the pieces on a
4x8 sheet of plywood or it is for me to manipulate the pieces
manually?
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:28:11 GMT, Igor
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
>>plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
>>freeware or shareware that I could use?
>>I can not justify buying such software for this project.
>>Thanks.
>
>
>For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there are
>others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of TurboCAD,
>http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/ any ap
>there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper. HTH.
Nathan Gutman <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
> plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
> freeware or shareware that I could use?
> I can not justify buying such software for this project.
Check out PLUS 2D - Panel Optimization Software from www.nirvanatec.com
If the demo version does not suffice, you may write to
[email protected] and they will optimize the job for you.
shrikanth
Nirvana Technologies.
You will have to move them around. Here is the way I would do it. Draw your
parts in Turbocad at a small scale. Print them out. Draw a sheet at the same
scale. Print it out. Cut out the parts and move them around on the sheet
drawing until they work. Paste in place. There is also software out there
that will do this for you. Do a search on "Sheetlayout". They have (or had
last time I looked) an evaluation copy that is functional.
"Nathan Gutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have an older version of TurboCAD. Can TurboCAD optimize a layout
> i.e decide what is the most efficient arrangement of the pieces on a
> 4x8 sheet of plywood or it is for me to manipulate the pieces
> manually?
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:28:11 GMT, Igor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
> >>plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
> >>freeware or shareware that I could use?
> >>I can not justify buying such software for this project.
> >>Thanks.
> >
> >
> >For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there are
> >others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of TurboCAD,
> >http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/ any ap
> >there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper. HTH.
>
Dennis [email protected] wrote:
> Version 4 on the same web site? I only see Version 9.
>
> Dennis Vogel
Version 4 is at:
http://nct.digitalriver.com/fulfill/0002.16/tc/
Rico
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
> >plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
> >freeware or shareware that I could use?
> >I can not justify buying such software for this project.
> >Thanks.
>
>
> For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there are
> others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of TurboCAD,
> http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/ any ap
> there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper. HTH.
>
Which of course there are freeware applications out there to print graph
paper onto your printer
Cheers Ray
CW wrote:
> http://www.brlcad.com/
> I don't know anything about it. I downloaded the form but haven't sent it in
> yet.
It's a 3d solid modeling Cad program optimized to do solid
modeling for the study of ballistic properties of vehicles
and structures.
Description here:
http://ftp.arl.army.mil/brlcad/overview.html
I haven't used it, but have known quite a few people who
did. It has a steep learning curve and I don't know of
anyone who uses it by choice.
The gummnt developed it so that contractors and their own
people would have a Cad system tailered to their needs and
they wouldn't have to deal with input form contractors in
umpty zillion formats. When you are letting out multi
mission dollar contracts, you can get the bidders to use
your Cad system.
Summary: Learning BRL Cad would be a good learning
experiance for the advanced CAD user with extensive 3D
experiance or solid modeling experiance, but it's not well
suited to the needs of the casual woodworker.
Rico
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CW wrote:
> I had read the description before. I just meant that I had never used it so
> couldn't comment on it. The original suggestion for this software was not
> serious. I knew that chances of the hobiest using it were pretty slim. I
> intend to get a copy myself though. I do have a considerable bit of
> experience with solid modeling.
Please post what you find out. Free is good.
I haven't used it myself, but some people that worked for me
did and they said it was pretty clunky to use compared to
Cadd that was intended for design.
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"Igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
> >plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
> >freeware or shareware that I could use?
> >I can not justify buying such software for this project.
> >Thanks.
>
> For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there are
> others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of TurboCAD,
> http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/ any ap
> there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper. HTH.
Where's the free download? I see a trial version of TurboCad.
Is that what you mean?
Dennis Vogel
No thanks. They want my address and they want to
send me email notices (that I can unsubscribe but
only after receiving them).
Dennis Vogel
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:A%[email protected]...
> Finally found it. Go here: http://nct.digitalriver.com/fulfill/0002.16
> for the free (2D) version of Turbocad. It does not expire. Comes with user
> manual.
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:qRt9b.362107$Oz4.137402@rwcrnsc54...
> > The trial version is what he was refering to. There is also Version 4
> > Professional that is fully functional and free. Quite good.
> > "Dennis [email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "Igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman
<[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
> > > > >plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
> > > > >freeware or shareware that I could use?
> > > > >I can not justify buying such software for this project.
> > > > >Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there
are
> > > > others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of
> TurboCAD,
> > > > http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/ any
> ap
> > > > there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper. HTH.
> > >
> > > Where's the free download? I see a trial version of TurboCad.
> > > Is that what you mean?
> > >
> > > Dennis Vogel
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"Rico" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dennis [email protected] wrote:
> > Version 4 on the same web site? I only see Version 9.
> >
> > Dennis Vogel
>
> Version 4 is at:
>
> http://nct.digitalriver.com/fulfill/0002.16/tc/
Thanks.
Dennis Vogel
It's not the email address that bothers me.
It's the home address and phone number
that scares me.
Dennis Vogel
<BRuce> wrote in message news:1063712272.642301@sj-nntpcache-3...
> this should not be a problem.
> the address info is not validated, give them info that does not exist.
> go get a hotmail account and then delete it after you download.
>
> anyway if you consider the 2 - 3 email they MIGHT send you as spam then
> you could filter them. this is a legite company and has been around for
> a long time.
>
> BRuce
>
> Dennis [email protected] wrote:
> > No thanks. They want my address and they want to
> > send me email notices (that I can unsubscribe but
> > only after receiving them).
> >
> > Dennis Vogel
> >
> > "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:A%[email protected]...
> >
> >>Finally found it. Go here: http://nct.digitalriver.com/fulfill/0002.16
> >>for the free (2D) version of Turbocad. It does not expire. Comes with
user
> >>manual.
> >>"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:qRt9b.362107$Oz4.137402@rwcrnsc54...
> >>
> >>>The trial version is what he was refering to. There is also Version 4
> >>>Professional that is fully functional and free. Quite good.
> >>>"Dennis [email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:[email protected]...
> >>>
> >>>>"Igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>news:[email protected]...
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman
> >
> > <[email protected]>
> >
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
> >>>>>>plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
> >>>>>>freeware or shareware that I could use?
> >>>>>>I can not justify buying such software for this project.
> >>>>>>Thanks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there
> >
> > are
> >
> >>>>>others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of
> >>
> >>TurboCAD,
> >>
> >>>>>http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/ any
> >>
> >>ap
> >>
> >>>>>there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper. HTH.
> >>>>
> >>>>Where's the free download? I see a trial version of TurboCad.
> >>>>Is that what you mean?
> >>>>
> >>>>Dennis Vogel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
The trial version is what he was refering to. There is also Version 4
Professional that is fully functional and free. Quite good.
"Dennis [email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets of
> > >plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
> > >freeware or shareware that I could use?
> > >I can not justify buying such software for this project.
> > >Thanks.
> >
> > For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there are
> > others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of TurboCAD,
> > http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/ any ap
> > there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper. HTH.
>
> Where's the free download? I see a trial version of TurboCad.
> Is that what you mean?
>
> Dennis Vogel
>
>
Everybody is so paranoid these days. I"ve been a professional user of their
software since version 6 Pro. Now on version (. Multiple upgrades and
patches and product registrations over the years. i have never gotten more
than three emails in a year from them. In this time, i have filled out that
form and downloaded that version of the program for other people several
times. They don't spam (advertising has always been one of there
shortcommings). I could give you the URL to download the US Governments own
cad program (yes, they have one). It's free. All you have to do is fill out
a seven page form and fax it to them.
"Dennis [email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No thanks. They want my address and they want to
> send me email notices (that I can unsubscribe but
> only after receiving them).
>
> Dennis Vogel
>
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:A%[email protected]...
> > Finally found it. Go here: http://nct.digitalriver.com/fulfill/0002.16
> > for the free (2D) version of Turbocad. It does not expire. Comes with
user
> > manual.
> > "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:qRt9b.362107$Oz4.137402@rwcrnsc54...
> > > The trial version is what he was refering to. There is also Version 4
> > > Professional that is fully functional and free. Quite good.
> > > "Dennis [email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > "Igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:04:07 -0400, Nathan Gutman
> <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I have a one-time small project that will use about three sheets
of
> > > > > >plywood. It has a total of about 25 parts. Are you aware of any
> > > > > >freeware or shareware that I could use?
> > > > > >I can not justify buying such software for this project.
> > > > > >Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > For a "one-time small project", I'd use graph paper. I know there
> are
> > > > > others, but if you work fast (15 days) get a free download of
> > TurboCAD,
> > > > > http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=69. Of coures, w/
any
> > ap
> > > > > there is a learning curve, so again I am back to graph paper.
HTH.
> > > >
> > > > Where's the free download? I see a trial version of TurboCad.
> > > > Is that what you mean?
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Vogel
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:54:15 GMT, "CW" <[email protected]>
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
snip
>shortcommings). I could give you the URL to download the US Governments own
>cad program (yes, they have one). It's free. All you have to do is fill out
>a seven page form and fax it to them.
snip
Hey, i'd like to see that one myself,,,care to post it?
T.