On 5/12/2014 1:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:10:16 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think they usually come as gifts or are inherited.
>>>>
>>> I don't. I think the entire matter has been grossly exagerated.
>>>
>>
>> I think back in the 60s, we didn't throw a knife away just because it
>> was a little hard to open.
>>
> In the '60s you could carry an pocked knife on an airplane.
>
70s, 80, 90s too. 2001 that all changed.
And your point is?
--
Jeff
On 5/8/2014 4:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3179 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/ppPuF/new
>
>
> Rob
>
3175 Remington bullet key fob, file
3176 wish I had better pics, but it looks like something to cut parallel
lines, maybe in tape
3177 An electrician line splitter. Used to separate the leads of lamp
wire or romex.
3178 Quick release tie down. Stick a loop of rope through, catch it in
the grip, when you want to release pull the levers.
3179 Can lid crimper, rolls and crimps the lid on a can.
3180 Fence tool :-)
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Jeff
On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:31:16 -0500, phorbin <[email protected]>
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>> >
>> >Good ones.
>> >
>> >3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
>> >pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>
>arthritis... no fingernails, weak fingernails...
Anyone who purchases a knife that one has to use tools to open..is an
idiot.
There are too many decent one handed openers on the market, from $10
and up to piss around with an unwieldy chunk of crap. In all
seriousness.
Hell..you can buy decent enough knives on Ebay for $2.50 (from China
which is where MOST brand name knives are made today)
One of my favorite Chinese sellers
http://www.ebay.com/sch/yykkyy77/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2654
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I was once told by a gun safety advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?
I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, Give me the short answer.
I thought for a moment and said, If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."
On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:10:16 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>
>>> I think they usually come as gifts or are inherited.
>>>
>> I don't. I think the entire matter has been grossly exagerated.
>>
>
>I think back in the 60s, we didn't throw a knife away just because it
>was a little hard to open.
>
In the '60s you could carry an pocked knife on an airplane.
On Mon, 12 May 2014 20:25:40 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 5/12/2014 1:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:10:16 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think they usually come as gifts or are inherited.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't. I think the entire matter has been grossly exagerated.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think back in the 60s, we didn't throw a knife away just because it
>>> was a little hard to open.
>>>
>> In the '60s you could carry an pocked knife on an airplane.
>>
>70s, 80, 90s too. 2001 that all changed.
...and people brought guns to school (in NYC, even).
>And your point is?
Only that it ain't the good old days. The only think left of the '60s
is the permanent hangover.
>>
>> Anyone who purchases a knife that one has to use tools to open..is
>> an
>> idiot.
--------------------------------------------
"Baxter" wrote:
>
> No, you're the idiot.
>>
>> There are too many decent one handed openers on the market, from
>> $10
>> and up to piss around with an unwieldy chunk of crap. In all
>> seriousness.
>
> People buy knives like that because of the blades or combination of
> blades. Your 'one handers' will not fullfill the function(s)
> required
---------------------------------------------
Don't cry when you lose this one overboad.
http://tinyurl.com/ltrjqcs
Lew
> ...
>
>
>>
>> Hell..you can buy decent enough knives on Ebay for $2.50 (from
>> China
>> which is where MOST brand name knives are made today)
>>
>> One of my favorite Chinese sellers
>>
> ... serious woodworkers don't want your cheap Chinese crap.
>
>
> --
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On 5/10/2014 4:33 PM, Steve W. wrote:
> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> Look forward to reading the rest of the answers
>> when Rob posts them.
>>
>>
>
> They are posted.
>
I've read the subject lines of all the
posts to this group. None of the subject
lines mentions answers. Just what is it?
set 544. We're still all guessing.
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On 8 May 2014 14:18:56 -0700, Rob H. wrote:
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>
>>3175 Remington bullet key fob, file
>
>
> Correct on the key fob, though it's not a file, and it does have another
> purpose.
Letter opener?
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On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:19:58 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:31:16 -0500, phorbin <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>>>
>>>arthritis... no fingernails, weak fingernails...
>>
>> Anyone who purchases a knife that one has to use tools to open..is an
>> idiot.
>
>No, you're the idiot.
The opinion of a squab is noted with amused but rather bored interest.
>>
>> There are too many decent one handed openers on the market, from $10
>> and up to piss around with an unwieldy chunk of crap. In all
>> seriousness.
>
>People buy knives like that because of the blades or combination of
>blades. Your 'one handers' will not fullfill the function(s) required
Which functions are those? Something to ream the dingleberrys from
your unwashed ass?
>...
>
>
>>
>> Hell..you can buy decent enough knives on Ebay for $2.50 (from China
>> which is where MOST brand name knives are made today)
>>
>> One of my favorite Chinese sellers
>>
>... serious woodworkers don't want your cheap Chinese crap.
ROFLMAO!...most..workworking blades are made in China, you ignorant
buffoon. And have been for 15 yrs. Just like Buck, Case, etc etc.
--
"
I was once told by a gun safety advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?
I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, Give me the short answer.
I thought for a moment and said, If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."
On 5/12/2014 7:44 PM, Bill wrote:
> Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
>>> In the '60s you could carry an pocked knife on an airplane.
>>
>> I wouldn't carry an pocked knife on an airplane or anywhere else.
>>
>> Ldoly
>>
>
> I'd only carry a pocked knife in a polster, and when I was finished
> using the knife I'd reupholster it!
If it was only slightly pocked, you could
psharen the blade again, maybe ifle out the
big pock marks, and shetwone it a bit to
really harshen up the dedge.
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[email protected] writes:
>On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:10:16 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think they usually come as gifts or are inherited.
>>>>
>>> I don't. I think the entire matter has been grossly exagerated.
>>>
>>
>>I think back in the 60s, we didn't throw a knife away just because it
>>was a little hard to open.
>>
>In the '60s you could carry an pocked knife on an airplane.
In the first year of the 21st century, one could carry a pocket
knife on an airplane.
On 5/9/2014 7:34 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>
>> Good ones.
>>
>> 3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
>> pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
>
>
> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>
When I was a kid,I had a swiss army knife (cheap
knock off). It ws so totally dificult to get the
blades open, I used some string and tied on a flat
steel key I had from some where. Made it a lot
easier to open the blades.
Look forward to reading the rest of the answers
when Rob posts them.
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On 5/8/2014 4:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3179 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/ppPuF/new
>
>
> Rob
>
Posting from my desk top PC in the living room as
always. BTW, my news reader doesn't seem to get
rc Metalworking any more. Not a big loss, the flame
wars got boring. I do get RC Puzzles, which is fine.
3175, might be a .30-06 shell that got left on a rail
road track?
3176, might be a meat tenderizer.
3177, my first thought was a crimping tool. But with
the sharp tooth point, maybe splitting, or opening of
some kind.
3178, wall mounted broom handle holder
3179, don't know
3180, don't know
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
> >
> >Good ones.
> >
> >3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
> >pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
>
>
> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
arthritis... no fingernails, weak fingernails...
On 5/10/2014 5:54 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> Steve W. wrote:
>>> Look forward to reading the rest of the answers
>>> when Rob posts them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> They are posted.
>
> He's using T-bird , which I know for a fact has the means to track
> responses to threads . He chooses not to , for whatever reason .
>
Rob always posts a new thing with the
word answers in the subject line.
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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:53700c81$0
[email protected]:
> Don't cry when you lose this one overboad.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ltrjqcs
Crap... $400 and not a lanyard hole in it! I think they WANT you to lose
it!
Lloyd
[email protected] fired this volley in news:2fv1n950gurerom9tpuptti2eciuehgv7s@
4ax.com:
> In the '60s you could carry an pocked knife on an airplane.
If an knife was pocked, I'd put it away in an drawer and get an new one.
An knife that's pocked has been mistreated and left put away wet.
I wouldn't carry an pocked knife on an airplane or anywhere else.
Ldoly
On Mon, 12 May 2014 13:12:34 -0700, Gunner Asch <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Mon, 12 May 2014 14:28:08 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:19:58 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:31:16 -0500, phorbin <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>arthritis... no fingernails, weak fingernails...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone who purchases a knife that one has to use tools to open..is
>>>>> an idiot.
>>>>
>>>>No, you're the idiot.
>>>
>>> The opinion of a squab is noted with amused but rather bored interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are too many decent one handed openers on the market, from $10
>>>>> and up to piss around with an unwieldy chunk of crap. In all
>>>>> seriousness.
>>>>
>>>>People buy knives like that because of the blades or combination of
>>>>blades. Your 'one handers' will not fullfill the function(s) required
>>>
>>> Which functions are those? Something to ream the dingleberrys from
>>> your unwashed ass?
>>>>...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hell..you can buy decent enough knives on Ebay for $2.50 (from China
>>>>> which is where MOST brand name knives are made today)
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my favorite Chinese sellers
>>>>>
>>>>... serious woodworkers don't want your cheap Chinese crap.
>>>
>>> ROFLMAO!...most..workworking blades are made in China, you ignorant
>>> buffoon. And have been for 15 yrs. Just like Buck, Case, etc etc.
>>>
>>Not that I've seen. Check the woodworking catalogs and you find edged
>>tools coming from Japan (not China), England, Europe, and the good ol'
>>USA. Perhaps you should try somewhere besides Harbor Freight?
>
>SOME are made in the places you indicate. And you missed Taiwan
>you pathetic dolt.
>
>But most come from China. Which is where Buck/Gerber/S&W etc have a
>most of their knives made.
>
>And be advised that "Made in the USA" means at worst...they are
>Assembled from foreign made parts ,in the USA
>
>Im a knife collector. Ive got several hundred knives (and swords)
>..the vast majority of them are indeed USA made.
>That being said..most of the manufactures TODAY ride herd on the
>Chinese and their quality has NOT fallen or if it has ..not very far.
>Which is why they are still in business.
>
>That Ebay link I provided..if you notice ..if you bothered to open
>it..you will find US brand names in there that are at a fraction of US
>pricing. Think the US sells knives to China to have them marked down
>by 90% and then reshipped back to the US? You truely are not THAT
>stupid..right?
>
>Virtually every knife made of 440C(B) is Chinese made. AUS8 could be
>Japanese made..or Taiwanese or Chinese. D2 knives tend to be US made
>but the Chicoms are getting better at it and are now exporting D2
>blades in some numbers.
>
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/14-4-OLGA-NELEK-CUSTOM-MADE-MACHETE-SURVIVAL-KNIFE-D2-TOOL-STEEL-BLADE-HO-6664-/191164806167
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/D2-blade-survival-Tactical-Compact-Outdoor-Pocket-claw-Knife-japan-Karambit-/271486756291
>etc etc
>
>http://www.assistedknife.com/index.cfm/fa/subcategories.main/parentcat/26847/subcatid/63992
>
>"The History of Cheap Shit
>
>In the 1960s thru 1980s things made in Japan where Cheap Shit, but
>things changed in the late 80s and Japan began to make things quite
>well many superior to alot of goods.
>
>In the 1980s thru 1990s things made in Taiwan where Cheap Shit, but
>things changed in the late 90s and Taiwan began to make things quite
>well and many superior to alot of goods. Boker, Smith & Wesson,
>Schrade, CRKT, Kershaw all have knives made in Taiwan, which by 2010
>standards are made quite superior to others.
>
>In the 2000s thru 2010s things made in China where Cheap Shit and
>many things still are the junk you see at Walmart everyday. However
>things are changing, many knife companies are now manufacturing in
>China such as Gerber, Kershaw, United Cutlery and many more and things
>are to a good standard as of 2010. Yes they are inferior to American
>Made items that is for sure.
>
> The point is that with progression of industry standards do improve
>with things over time but you are still left with issues of ethics &
>morality dont forget. "
>
>http://www.thetruthaboutknives.com/2013/03/question-of-the-day-can-chinese-knives-be-any-good/
>
>And some ..some of them are bringing SOME of their blades back to the
>USA. Buck built a plant in Idaho a few years ago and many of their
>blades are now made there. Not all..but a significant number
>
>http://americanmanufacturing.org/blog/shift-changes-buck-knives-brings-production-back-china-and-carves-out-manufacturing-niche-north
>
>The Chinese make their own knife steel for the most part. Some is
>bought from Taiwan or Japan. If you had two functioning brain cells
>you would notice that the sudden increase in Damascus steel in CHEAP
>availablity reflects the sudden push for this sort of blade material
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel
>
>Since the recent rediscovery of "WOOTZ" steel production....things are
>taking off.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wootz_steel
>
>http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/damascus-steel-billet.html
>
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/SteelStag-Custom-Damascus-Collector-10-White-Smooth-Bone-Hunter-Bowie-Knife-D79-/231203101400
>
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/aa-Knives-Custom-Handmade-Damascus-SKINNER-Knife-SK-706-BUFFALO-HORN-MOSAIC-P-/251527097487
>
>The Pakistanis are getting VERY good at making Damascus blades. Notice
>the pricing? An American made blade would be 400-500% higher at
>Minimum.
>
>Get back to me when you learn the difference between a quillion and a
>Choil and what Distal Taper means.
>
>Gunner
Going through my list of currently active preferred sellers on Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/sch/tahar631/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2654
http://www.ebay.com/sch/yykkyy77/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
(a surprisingly comfortable knife that holds an edge well. Ive given a
number of these away as gifts
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Made-Typical-Russian-Folding-Backlock-Knife-BA70-/390834802400
Some may remember me mentioning working with this company on some
issues with a previous version of the Karambit. This is the end
result..and a very nice blade..though they still didn't sharpen the
first 1/4 of the spine and the grip is a bit small. They got the hole
the right size finally.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOJIANG-STAG-HORN-Handle-4-8-mm-D2-Blade-Karambit-Claw-Knife-With-Sheath-C03-/390820640224
My early sample may or may not be on my person at any given time.....
These people USED to have auctions..and I bought quite a number of
items. Since they have gone to essentially Buy it Now with no
bids...Ive not bought a thing, though their prices are still about 50%
of US retail
http://www.ebay.com/sch/mountainclmbr/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2654
Gunner
--
"
I was once told by a gun safety advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?
I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, Give me the short answer.
I thought for a moment and said, If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."
On Sun, 11 May 2014 19:05:33 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:53700c81$0
>[email protected]:
>
>> Don't cry when you lose this one overboad.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ltrjqcs
>
>Crap... $400 and not a lanyard hole in it! I think they WANT you to lose
>it!
>
>Lloyd
I lost a Police Model once...left it on top of the air cleaner and
drove onto I-5 in downtown LA traffic during rushhour..and I knew
exactly what it was when I heard it fall into the fan..then ricochet
around the engine compartment..and then fell out of the vehicle.
Felt that one right in the pocketbook..still hurts
--
"
I was once told by a gun safety advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?
I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, Give me the short answer.
I thought for a moment and said, If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."
On Tue, 13 May 2014 13:27:06 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
>[email protected] writes:
>>On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:10:16 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think they usually come as gifts or are inherited.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't. I think the entire matter has been grossly exagerated.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I think back in the 60s, we didn't throw a knife away just because it
>>>was a little hard to open.
>>>
>>In the '60s you could carry an pocked knife on an airplane.
>
>In the first year of the 21st century, one could carry a pocket
>knife on an airplane.
No one claimed you were very bright.
Steve W. wrote:
> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> On 5/9/2014 7:34 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>>> Good ones.
>>>>
>>>> 3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
>>>> pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>>>
>>
>> When I was a kid,I had a swiss army knife (cheap
>> knock off). It ws so totally dificult to get the
>> blades open, I used some string and tied on a flat
>> steel key I had from some where. Made it a lot
>> easier to open the blades.
>>
>> Look forward to reading the rest of the answers
>> when Rob posts them.
>>
>>
>
> They are posted.
He's using T-bird , which I know for a fact has the means to track
responses to threads . He chooses not to , for whatever reason .
--
Snag
On Mon, 12 May 2014 19:12:46 +0100, "Stanley Daniel de Liver"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:05:33 +0100, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
><lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
>> news:53700c81$0
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Don't cry when you lose this one overboad.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ltrjqcs
>>
>> Crap... $400 and not a lanyard hole in it! I think they WANT you to lose
>> it!
>>
>> Lloyd
>
>Quite. How much per pound is fish anyhow? There's easier ways.
It has nothing to do with fish..and everything to do with
boat/sailboat rigging
Gunner, who keeps a far cheaper version in his pocket when out on the
sailboats
--
"
I was once told by a gun safety advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?
I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, Give me the short answer.
I thought for a moment and said, If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."
On Mon, 12 May 2014 14:28:08 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:19:58 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:31:16 -0500, phorbin <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>>>>>
>>>>>arthritis... no fingernails, weak fingernails...
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who purchases a knife that one has to use tools to open..is
>>>> an idiot.
>>>
>>>No, you're the idiot.
>>
>> The opinion of a squab is noted with amused but rather bored interest.
>>>>
>>>> There are too many decent one handed openers on the market, from $10
>>>> and up to piss around with an unwieldy chunk of crap. In all
>>>> seriousness.
>>>
>>>People buy knives like that because of the blades or combination of
>>>blades. Your 'one handers' will not fullfill the function(s) required
>>
>> Which functions are those? Something to ream the dingleberrys from
>> your unwashed ass?
>>>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hell..you can buy decent enough knives on Ebay for $2.50 (from China
>>>> which is where MOST brand name knives are made today)
>>>>
>>>> One of my favorite Chinese sellers
>>>>
>>>... serious woodworkers don't want your cheap Chinese crap.
>>
>> ROFLMAO!...most..workworking blades are made in China, you ignorant
>> buffoon. And have been for 15 yrs. Just like Buck, Case, etc etc.
>>
>Not that I've seen. Check the woodworking catalogs and you find edged
>tools coming from Japan (not China), England, Europe, and the good ol'
>USA. Perhaps you should try somewhere besides Harbor Freight?
SOME are made in the places you indicate. And you missed Taiwan
you pathetic dolt.
But most come from China. Which is where Buck/Gerber/S&W etc have a
most of their knives made.
And be advised that "Made in the USA" means at worst...they are
Assembled from foreign made parts ,in the USA
Im a knife collector. Ive got several hundred knives (and swords)
..the vast majority of them are indeed USA made.
That being said..most of the manufactures TODAY ride herd on the
Chinese and their quality has NOT fallen or if it has ..not very far.
Which is why they are still in business.
That Ebay link I provided..if you notice ..if you bothered to open
it..you will find US brand names in there that are at a fraction of US
pricing. Think the US sells knives to China to have them marked down
by 90% and then reshipped back to the US? You truely are not THAT
stupid..right?
Virtually every knife made of 440C(B) is Chinese made. AUS8 could be
Japanese made..or Taiwanese or Chinese. D2 knives tend to be US made
but the Chicoms are getting better at it and are now exporting D2
blades in some numbers.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/14-4-OLGA-NELEK-CUSTOM-MADE-MACHETE-SURVIVAL-KNIFE-D2-TOOL-STEEL-BLADE-HO-6664-/191164806167
http://www.ebay.com/itm/D2-blade-survival-Tactical-Compact-Outdoor-Pocket-claw-Knife-japan-Karambit-/271486756291
etc etc
http://www.assistedknife.com/index.cfm/fa/subcategories.main/parentcat/26847/subcatid/63992
"The History of Cheap Shit
In the 1960s thru 1980s things made in Japan where Cheap Shit, but
things changed in the late 80s and Japan began to make things quite
well many superior to alot of goods.
In the 1980s thru 1990s things made in Taiwan where Cheap Shit, but
things changed in the late 90s and Taiwan began to make things quite
well and many superior to alot of goods. Boker, Smith & Wesson,
Schrade, CRKT, Kershaw all have knives made in Taiwan, which by 2010
standards are made quite superior to others.
In the 2000s thru 2010s things made in China where Cheap Shit and
many things still are the junk you see at Walmart everyday. However
things are changing, many knife companies are now manufacturing in
China such as Gerber, Kershaw, United Cutlery and many more and things
are to a good standard as of 2010. Yes they are inferior to American
Made items that is for sure.
The point is that with progression of industry standards do improve
with things over time but you are still left with issues of ethics &
morality dont forget. "
http://www.thetruthaboutknives.com/2013/03/question-of-the-day-can-chinese-knives-be-any-good/
And some ..some of them are bringing SOME of their blades back to the
USA. Buck built a plant in Idaho a few years ago and many of their
blades are now made there. Not all..but a significant number
http://americanmanufacturing.org/blog/shift-changes-buck-knives-brings-production-back-china-and-carves-out-manufacturing-niche-north
The Chinese make their own knife steel for the most part. Some is
bought from Taiwan or Japan. If you had two functioning brain cells
you would notice that the sudden increase in Damascus steel in CHEAP
availablity reflects the sudden push for this sort of blade material
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel
Since the recent rediscovery of "WOOTZ" steel production....things are
taking off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wootz_steel
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/damascus-steel-billet.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SteelStag-Custom-Damascus-Collector-10-White-Smooth-Bone-Hunter-Bowie-Knife-D79-/231203101400
http://www.ebay.com/itm/aa-Knives-Custom-Handmade-Damascus-SKINNER-Knife-SK-706-BUFFALO-HORN-MOSAIC-P-/251527097487
The Pakistanis are getting VERY good at making Damascus blades. Notice
the pricing? An American made blade would be 400-500% higher at
Minimum.
Get back to me when you learn the difference between a quillion and a
Choil and what Distal Taper means.
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Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?
I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, Give me the short answer.
I thought for a moment and said, If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."
Stormin Mormon wrote:
> On 5/10/2014 5:54 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> Steve W. wrote:
>>>> Look forward to reading the rest of the answers
>>>> when Rob posts them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> They are posted.
>>
>> He's using T-bird , which I know for a fact has the means to track
>> responses to threads . He chooses not to , for whatever reason .
>>
>
> Rob always posts a new thing with the
> word answers in the subject line.
Funny , I don't recall seeing that lately - though I believe at one time
he did in fact do that . Your newsreader will display the messages threaded
, and show which ones in a thread have not been read . Take advantage of
that and read any message left by Rob late on friday afternoon .
Fer cryin' out loud Chris , you've been around long enough to know how
this works . I find your weekly post about "where are the answers" a
pathetic plea for attention - just like most of the inane garbage you post .
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Deal with it or FOAD , your choice .
"Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...
I need some help with 3179 in this set:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Larger images:
http://imgur.com/gallery/ppPuF/new
3175 is a penknife pretending to be a two dimensional bullet.
3177 is for splitting twin core cable I think.
The others are obviously fencing tools.
Steve
Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3179 in this set:
3179 looks like a strapping tensioner. Something
like this one:
http://www.allpack.co.uk/2pchandstrap.htm
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/ppPuF/new
>
>
> Rob
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>3175 Remington bullet key fob, file
Correct on the key fob, though it's not a file, and it does have another
purpose.
>3176 wish I had better pics, but it looks like something to cut parallel
>lines, maybe in tape
Someone sent in the photos. It's not for cutting lines.
>
>3177 An electrician line splitter. Used to separate the leads of lamp
>wire or romex.
Yes, this tool says Bell System on the other side
>
>3178 Quick release tie down. Stick a loop of rope through, catch it in
>the grip, when you want to release pull the levers.
Nope
>
>3179 Can lid crimper, rolls and crimps the lid on a can.
Here is the owner's description of it:
"I got it from a container of mixed metal for recycling (essentially
someone was throwing it out). When the handle compresses, the wheel
with the teeth turns, and there is a ratcheting mechanism. The wire
lever can be pressed to lift off the wheel a bit, presumably to slip
something under the wheel area. My guess is that is is used to secure
plastic or wire strapping for large shipping crates/boxes."
>
>3180 Fence tool :-)
I think I'm actually out of fence tools for the moment. I've got a book that
pictures almost 900 fence tools and I have only posted a small fraction of them,
so I'm sure I'll find more in the future.
Good ones.
3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
3176 I had decided that the nooks and crannies and all the places to
catch stuff made this inappropriate for use with food, for example as a
meat tenderizer. Wrong again.
3178 Interesting. Well beyond my range of experience.
On 5/9/2014 5:39 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted my answers for this set:
In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>Good ones.
>
>3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
>pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>3176 I had decided that the nooks and crannies and all the places to
>catch stuff made this inappropriate for use with food, for example as a
>meat tenderizer. Wrong again.
>3178 Interesting. Well beyond my range of experience.
Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>> Good ones.
>>
>> 3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
>> pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
>
> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
I've seen more than 1 pocketknife that may make you change your mind.
>
>
>> 3176 I had decided that the nooks and crannies and all the places to
>> catch stuff made this inappropriate for use with food, for example as a
>> meat tenderizer. Wrong again.
>> 3178 Interesting. Well beyond my range of experience.
Stormin Mormon wrote:
> On 5/9/2014 7:34 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>> Good ones.
>>>
>>> 3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
>>> pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
>>
>> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>>
>
> When I was a kid,I had a swiss army knife (cheap
> knock off). It ws so totally dificult to get the
> blades open, I used some string and tied on a flat
> steel key I had from some where. Made it a lot
> easier to open the blades.
>
> Look forward to reading the rest of the answers
> when Rob posts them.
>
>
They are posted.
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
> On 5/10/2014 5:54 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> Steve W. wrote:
>>>> Look forward to reading the rest of the answers
>>>> when Rob posts them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> They are posted.
>> He's using T-bird , which I know for a fact has the means to track
>> responses to threads . He chooses not to , for whatever reason .
>>
>
> Rob always posts a new thing with the
> word answers in the subject line.
>
Not this time.
Here was the post:
> Just posted my answers for this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/05/set-544.html#answers
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Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:31:16 -0500, phorbin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>>
>>arthritis... no fingernails, weak fingernails...
>
> Anyone who purchases a knife that one has to use tools to open..is an
> idiot.
No, you're the idiot.
>
> There are too many decent one handed openers on the market, from $10
> and up to piss around with an unwieldy chunk of crap. In all
> seriousness.
People buy knives like that because of the blades or combination of
blades. Your 'one handers' will not fullfill the function(s) required
...
>
> Hell..you can buy decent enough knives on Ebay for $2.50 (from China
> which is where MOST brand name knives are made today)
>
> One of my favorite Chinese sellers
>
... serious woodworkers don't want your cheap Chinese crap.
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Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:31:16 -0500, phorbin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>>> Good ones.
>>>>
>>>> 3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
>>>> pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>> arthritis... no fingernails, weak fingernails...
> Anyone who purchases a knife that one has to use tools to open..is an
> idiot.
:)
I think they usually come as gifts or are inherited.
>
> There are too many decent one handed openers on the market, from $10
> and up to piss around with an unwieldy chunk of crap. In all
> seriousness.
>
> Hell..you can buy decent enough knives on Ebay for $2.50 (from China
> which is where MOST brand name knives are made today)
>
> One of my favorite Chinese sellers
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/yykkyy77/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2654
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> "
> I was once told by a gun safety advocate back in the Nineties
> that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
> Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?
>
> I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
> cut me off with an abrupt, Give me the short answer.
>
> I thought for a moment and said, If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."
Bill wrote:
> I think they usually come as gifts or are inherited.
>
I don't. I think the entire matter has been grossly exagerated.
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Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:19:58 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:31:16 -0500, phorbin <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
>>>>
>>>>arthritis... no fingernails, weak fingernails...
>>>
>>> Anyone who purchases a knife that one has to use tools to open..is
>>> an idiot.
>>
>>No, you're the idiot.
>
> The opinion of a squab is noted with amused but rather bored interest.
>>>
>>> There are too many decent one handed openers on the market, from $10
>>> and up to piss around with an unwieldy chunk of crap. In all
>>> seriousness.
>>
>>People buy knives like that because of the blades or combination of
>>blades. Your 'one handers' will not fullfill the function(s) required
>
> Which functions are those? Something to ream the dingleberrys from
> your unwashed ass?
>>...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hell..you can buy decent enough knives on Ebay for $2.50 (from China
>>> which is where MOST brand name knives are made today)
>>>
>>> One of my favorite Chinese sellers
>>>
>>... serious woodworkers don't want your cheap Chinese crap.
>
> ROFLMAO!...most..workworking blades are made in China, you ignorant
> buffoon. And have been for 15 yrs. Just like Buck, Case, etc etc.
>
Not that I've seen. Check the woodworking catalogs and you find edged
tools coming from Japan (not China), England, Europe, and the good ol'
USA. Perhaps you should try somewhere besides Harbor Freight?
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Baxter wrote:
> Not that I've seen. Check the woodworking catalogs and you find edged
> tools coming from Japan (not China), England, Europe, and the good ol'
> USA. Perhaps you should try somewhere besides Harbor Freight?
Hey! Genuflect when you say that store name...
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Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Mon, 12 May 2014 14:28:08 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Gunner Asch <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> ROFLMAO!...most..workworking blades are made in China, you
ignorant
>>> buffoon. And have been for 15 yrs. Just like Buck, Case,
etc etc.
>>>
>>Not that I've seen. Check the woodworking catalogs and you
find edged
>>tools coming from Japan (not China), England, Europe, and
the good ol'
>>USA. Perhaps you should try somewhere besides Harbor
Freight?
>
> SOME are made in the places you indicate. And you missed
Taiwan
> you pathetic dolt.
>
> But most come from China. Which is where Buck/Gerber/S&W
etc have a
> most of their knives made.
>
<snip irrelavent BS for brevity>
Swoosh! Right past your head - just like in political forums.
You seem to make a career of being obdurate. We're talking
edged _woodworking_ tools in this forum - not cheap crap for
carving your turkey. (AFATG, the best kitchen knives come from
Germany and France). We're also talking (edged tools
remember) chisels, Plane blades, and the like.
Show us how many of these knives came from China:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?cat=1&p=51222
Or these: http://www.hocktools.com/
Or these: http://tinyurl.com/lwsmhes
Or Rockler or Garret Wade, etc.
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> [email protected] fired this volley in news:2fv1n950gurerom9tpuptti2eciuehgv7s@
> 4ax.com:
>
>> In the '60s you could carry an pocked knife on an airplane.
> If an knife was pocked, I'd put it away in an drawer and get an new one.
>
> An knife that's pocked has been mistreated and left put away wet.
>
> I wouldn't carry an pocked knife on an airplane or anywhere else.
>
> Ldoly
>
I'd only carry a pocked knife in a polster, and when I was finished
using the knife I'd reupholster it!
On Mon, 12 May 2014 01:05:33 +0100, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:53700c81$0
> [email protected]:
>
>> Don't cry when you lose this one overboad.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ltrjqcs
>
> Crap... $400 and not a lanyard hole in it! I think they WANT you to lose
> it!
>
> Lloyd
Quite. How much per pound is fish anyhow? There's easier ways.
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On Mon, 12 May 2014 18:28:14 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
>[email protected] fired this volley in news:2fv1n950gurerom9tpuptti2eciuehgv7s@
>4ax.com:
>
>> In the '60s you could carry an pocked knife on an airplane.
>
>If an knife was pocked, I'd put it away in an drawer and get an new one.
>
>An knife that's pocked has been mistreated and left put away wet.
>
>I wouldn't carry an pocked knife on an airplane or anywhere else.
>
>Ldoly
Pock!!
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that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?
I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, Give me the short answer.
I thought for a moment and said, If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."
On 2014-05-08, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with 3179 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/ppPuF/new
Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
always. (And, for "Stormin' Mormon', also from my Lay-Z-Boy in my
living room. :-)
3175) Hmm ... while it is in the shape of a rifle cartridge (likely
a 30-06), the "Cutlery" on there suggests that it is for use int
he dining room or kitchen.
It could be a lever for prying open things like jars of
marmalade or something similar.
Or (if the surface of the bullet end is correct), it Could be
for sharpening knives -- say if the surface has diamond grit
embedded in it.
3176) Too few views, and too few images from the patent page.
At a guess, there are blades between each of the sliding metal
pieces shown in "Fig 3", and when you press down hard enough the
blades come out to cut through whatever is being held flat.
Based on the handle, it could be for use in the kitchen, and it
could be used for cutting luncheon meats into strips similar to
pasta for going in some kind of meat salad.
3177) If the shape of the recesses and projections were a bit
different, it could be a crimper -- but the projection seems to
be a pointed blade, so it is more likely to be for something
off-the-wall (for me, at least) like splitting a twig so a graft
of another plant into it could be made.
Or -- for slitting tubing (soft metal like copper, or rubber or
vinyl) to make intentional leaks for spraying water, or perhaps
drawing a wire through one of the notches, to split the
insulation in preparation for wiring.
O.K. Strike the copper tubing -- the blades are slanted to cut
in one direction.
In any case -- it is not a commercial product. The notches were
formed by either filing by hand, or perhaps a small "point"
(mounted stone in a high speed device like a Dremel, or a
compressed air driven die grinder).
Whether the hinge and pin are commercial, or are good work by an
individual I'm not sure.
And it could either be held closed by hand (in which case I
would expect longer handles), or by a vise.
3178) Mounts on a wooden panel, and accepts leather harness rigging
for a horse-drawn vehicle. Quick disconnect by pinching the two
*ears* together.
3179) Other than the lack of a cut-off blade at the end, it looks
like a tool for tightening nylon cable ties.
3180) A hand-operated tool for filing an end at right angles to
a round piece of workstock -- wood or metal depending on the
file wheel.
Now to post this and see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2014-05-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>
>>Good ones.
>>
>>3175 I wonder if I am the only one who finds the concept of a
>>pocketknife size tool to open a pocketknife a little bit amusing.
>
>
> Yeah, I'm not sure why somebody would use one of these.
Well ... I remember having (or being issued) folding pocket
knives which had blades sufficiently difficult to open that I would need
the edge of a penny or something similar to engage the thumbnail slot
and start it open.
For comfortable to use knives, no need, of course.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 5/11/2014 8:08 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> On 5/10/2014 4:33 PM, Steve W. wrote:
>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>> Look forward to reading the rest of the answers
>>> when Rob posts them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> They are posted.
>>
>
> I've read the subject lines of all the
> posts to this group. None of the subject
> lines mentions answers. Just what is it?
> set 544. We're still all guessing.
>
Get over it.
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