An evil thing that could only be described as one of those events that
must have convinced the Greeks that their gods were petty and cruel
happened to me yesterday.
I've been laboring over SWMBO's new dining room table for weeks.
Selecting the finest mahogany, aligning the grain, hours of hand
planing, scraping and sanding, filling the grain and finally- staining.
I always get a little nervous when applying stain but the operation went
perfectly. The table was beautiful. I pour stain and mineral spirits
into small pyrex cups, it keeps dust out of the original container and
cleanup is simple enough. I dump the excess stain on the little deck
outside the shop where it soaks into the wood and then I wipe everything
down with mineral spirits and put the cups back on the shelf. But not
this time, this time some unseen force (Loki no doubt) swatted the cup
out of my hand, it tumbled through the air bouncing off my fingers as I
tried to catch it, tried to intercept it before it landed hard edge
first right in the middle of the table top. I nearly went berserk at the
sight of that dent in my beautiful table.
What to do. My first thought was to burn the whole thing and remind
SWMBO how much she liked our current dining room table when we bought
it! But reason prevailed and I remembered that dents can sometimes be
steamed out. Before trying it, I decided to pull out the bible (of
finishing) and hope that Flexner would tell me what to do. Flexner
suggested putting just a drop of water on the dent and using a soldering
gun or hot wire to boil it. It worked! After two steamings, 85-90% of
the dent steamed out, but so did the stain. I decided to stop and live
with the barest hint of a depression that remained. A quick swipe with a
dab of stain and the table looked great.
I realize now that I was lucky the cup landed in the middle of the
table. No one will ever see the dent. SWMBO comes back from visiting her
folks on Monday, hopefully the table will be finished and sitting in the
dining room. Next up... learning to build chairs, oh my.
--
McQualude
Fri, Jul 25, 2003, 6:36am (EDT+4) [email protected] (McQualude) says:
An evil thing that could only be described as one of those events that
must have convinced the Greeks that their gods were petty and cruel
<snip> Next up... <snip>
Next up, I would say, don't badmouth the Gods. Especially the
Woodworking Gods.
You might want to stay indoors during thunderstorms for awhile.
Won't be too long, the Gods have the attention span of an addled duck.
JOAT
Always put off until tomorrow something which, tomorrow, you could put
off until, let's say, next year.
- Lady Myria LeJean.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 23 Jul 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/JOATorJackOfAll/page4.html
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:12:52 -0400 (EDT), [email protected]
(Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT)Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
snip
> Next up, I would say, don't badmouth the Gods. Especially the
>Woodworking Gods.
>
> You might want to stay indoors during thunderstorms for awhile.
>Won't be too long, the Gods have the attention span of an addled duck.
snip
and now that you have insulted them,,,hehe
Traves
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:32:17 GMT, "Bob Gramza" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>: >this time, this time some unseen force (Loki no doubt) swatted the cup
>: >out of my hand, it tumbled through the air bouncing off my fingers as I
>: >tried to catch it, tried to intercept it before it landed hard edge
>: >first right in the middle of the table top. I nearly went berserk at the
>: >sight of that dent in my beautiful table.
>:
>: See? What did I tell ya? Instant karma, yet!
>:
>: So, what'd you learn from this little episode?
>
>
> Use a light plastic cup ?
My coach told me to always use a cup.
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:30:15 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
>You stained mahogany? That's bad karma, LudeDude.
Jeff Jewitt's article in the current FWW says it all. When you
get a load of mahogany it is different colors, textures, and I suspect
in my case, species. There wasn't enough of any one color to make a
whole project (14 feet of bookshelves) *and* I am using mahog ply with
solid edges for the shelves. So, Jeff's ideas about staining are going
to be put to the test as soon as the tint arrives.
I already made a couple of pieces and using garnet shellac
helped, but the finished product is red red red. Without the garnet it
looks like fine-grained mushy cherry. There has to be a better way.
=====
Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others.
=====
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"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:36:57 GMT, McQualude <[email protected]>
: pixelated:
:
: >An evil thing that could only be described as one of those events that
: >must have convinced the Greeks that their gods were petty and cruel
: >happened to me yesterday.
: >
: >I've been laboring over SWMBO's new dining room table for weeks.
: >Selecting the finest mahogany, aligning the grain, hours of hand
: >planing, scraping and sanding, filling the grain and finally- staining.
:
: You stained mahogany? That's bad karma, LudeDude.
:
:
: >this time, this time some unseen force (Loki no doubt) swatted the cup
: >out of my hand, it tumbled through the air bouncing off my fingers as I
: >tried to catch it, tried to intercept it before it landed hard edge
: >first right in the middle of the table top. I nearly went berserk at the
: >sight of that dent in my beautiful table.
:
: See? What did I tell ya? Instant karma, yet!
:
: So, what'd you learn from this little episode?
:
:
: Use a light plastic cup ?
In article <[email protected]>,
Bill Wallace <[email protected]> wrote:
>Completed a fine set of mission oak entables. Taking pictures to add
>to website (www.sonomaproducts.com) and maybe sell on ebay. Done
>taking pictures, putting away props... drop heavy glass candle holder,
>deep dent in top.
>
>Fast forward to workshop.
>
>Try burn in stick and it's working pretty well. Overheat putty knife
>on last smoothing pass and fry lacquer in a 2 in patch surrounding
>3/16" (now beautifully filled) dent. Rub out burned laquer with pure
>thinner. Try feather sanding edges of area before recoating with
>lacquer, sand through stain. Try staining. Won't take. Try toning some
>lacquer with transtint, color is off a bit but looks like it will be
>ok. Over coating with clear lacquer and it washes away color lacquer,
>now have lacquered unstained patch. Pull top off piece to prepare to
>put back through drum sander. Lacquer loads sandaper to a gloss
>finish. Use 80 grit on hand held belt sander to cut through lacquer.
>Nearly down to all raw wood and table top shoots out from under belt
>sander, hits bottle of transtint knocking top off. Nice 5" black spot
>in center of table top. About 1/16" later drum sander finally removes
>spot.
>
>There is no god.
>
"There is no God but Murphy,
And O'Brien is his prophet."
For those not familiar with O'brien:
O'Brien's Law: Murphy was an *optimist*!
Larry Jaques spaketh...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:36:57 GMT, McQualude <[email protected]>
>>I've been laboring over SWMBO's new dining room table for weeks.
>>Selecting the finest mahogany, aligning the grain, hours of hand
>>planing, scraping and sanding, filling the grain and finally- staining.
> You stained mahogany? That's bad karma, LudeDude.
A. SWMBO wanted it stained
B. See A
;)
--
McQualude
"Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> There is no god.
There is, and he hates your ass, bro. ;-)
-- Ernie
no kids, eh?
"McQualude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> An evil thing that could only be described as one of those events that
> must have convinced the Greeks that their gods were petty and cruel
> happened to me yesterday.
>
> I've been laboring over SWMBO's new dining room table for weeks.
> Selecting the finest mahogany, aligning the grain, hours of hand
> planing, scraping and sanding, filling the grain and finally- staining.
> I always get a little nervous when applying stain but the operation went
> perfectly. The table was beautiful. I pour stain and mineral spirits
> into small pyrex cups, it keeps dust out of the original container and
> cleanup is simple enough. I dump the excess stain on the little deck
> outside the shop where it soaks into the wood and then I wipe everything
> down with mineral spirits and put the cups back on the shelf. But not
> this time, this time some unseen force (Loki no doubt) swatted the cup
> out of my hand, it tumbled through the air bouncing off my fingers as I
> tried to catch it, tried to intercept it before it landed hard edge
> first right in the middle of the table top. I nearly went berserk at the
> sight of that dent in my beautiful table.
<snip>
> --
> McQualude
"McQualude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Charlie Spitzer spaketh...
>
> > no kids, eh?
>
> 2 and they are well behaved, but that is not the point, the point is that
I
> don't want any dents starting out, it would be nice if it still looks new
> when it reaches the house <g>
>
>
> --
> McQualude
my point being if you have kids, then one dent won't be noticed after 10-20
years.
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 21:33:58 GMT, "Ernie Jurick" <[email protected]>
pixelated:
>
>"Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> There is no god.
>
>There is, and he hates your ass, bro. ;-)
The woodworking gods DO know how to whack the peepees
of the sinnin' stainers, don't they?
--------------------------------------------
-- I'm in touch with my Inner Curmudgeon. --
http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development
============================================================
Completed a fine set of mission oak entables. Taking pictures to add
to website (www.sonomaproducts.com) and maybe sell on ebay. Done
taking pictures, putting away props... drop heavy glass candle holder,
deep dent in top.
Fast forward to workshop.
Try burn in stick and it's working pretty well. Overheat putty knife
on last smoothing pass and fry lacquer in a 2 in patch surrounding
3/16" (now beautifully filled) dent. Rub out burned laquer with pure
thinner. Try feather sanding edges of area before recoating with
lacquer, sand through stain. Try staining. Won't take. Try toning some
lacquer with transtint, color is off a bit but looks like it will be
ok. Over coating with clear lacquer and it washes away color lacquer,
now have lacquered unstained patch. Pull top off piece to prepare to
put back through drum sander. Lacquer loads sandaper to a gloss
finish. Use 80 grit on hand held belt sander to cut through lacquer.
Nearly down to all raw wood and table top shoots out from under belt
sander, hits bottle of transtint knocking top off. Nice 5" black spot
in center of table top. About 1/16" later drum sander finally removes
spot.
There is no god.
McQualude <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> An evil thing that could only be described as one of those events that
> must have convinced the Greeks that their gods were petty and cruel
> happened to me yesterday.
>
> I've been laboring over SWMBO's new dining room table for weeks.
> Selecting the finest mahogany, aligning the grain, hours of hand
> planing, scraping and sanding, filling the grain and finally- staining.
> I always get a little nervous when applying stain but the operation went
> perfectly. The table was beautiful. I pour stain and mineral spirits
> into small pyrex cups, it keeps dust out of the original container and
> cleanup is simple enough. I dump the excess stain on the little deck
> outside the shop where it soaks into the wood and then I wipe everything
> down with mineral spirits and put the cups back on the shelf. But not
> this time, this time some unseen force (Loki no doubt) swatted the cup
> out of my hand, it tumbled through the air bouncing off my fingers as I
> tried to catch it, tried to intercept it before it landed hard edge
> first right in the middle of the table top. I nearly went berserk at the
> sight of that dent in my beautiful table.
>
> What to do. My first thought was to burn the whole thing and remind
> SWMBO how much she liked our current dining room table when we bought
> it! But reason prevailed and I remembered that dents can sometimes be
> steamed out. Before trying it, I decided to pull out the bible (of
> finishing) and hope that Flexner would tell me what to do. Flexner
> suggested putting just a drop of water on the dent and using a soldering
> gun or hot wire to boil it. It worked! After two steamings, 85-90% of
> the dent steamed out, but so did the stain. I decided to stop and live
> with the barest hint of a depression that remained. A quick swipe with a
> dab of stain and the table looked great.
>
> I realize now that I was lucky the cup landed in the middle of the
> table. No one will ever see the dent. SWMBO comes back from visiting her
> folks on Monday, hopefully the table will be finished and sitting in the
> dining room. Next up... learning to build chairs, oh my.
Fri, Jul 25, 2003, 10:50am (EDT-3) [email protected] (Bill=A0Wallace)
claims:
<snip> There is no god.
Certainly there is. He's the one they claim keeps track of every
sparrow that falls, or something like that. Apparently there is nothing
in the job description about doing somthing about it, just the counting.
JOAT
Always put off until tomorrow something which, tomorrow, you could put
off until, let's say, next year.
- Lady Myria LeJean.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 23 Jul 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/JOATorJackOfAll/page4.html
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 21:33:58 GMT, "Ernie Jurick" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> There is no god.
>
>There is, and he hates your ass, bro. ;-)
Of course you meant "she", that much wanton bedlam could never be
produced by a bloke with such apparent ease! THAT level of mayhem
_requires_ a hormone issue! ;O)
Take Care,
Gnube
{too thick for linux}
Visions of the commercial for "adult ADD/ADHD...."
"Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Next up, I would say, don't badmouth the Gods. Especially the
> Woodworking Gods.
>
> You might want to stay indoors during thunderstorms for awhile.
> Won't be too long, the Gods have the attention span of an addled duck.
>