"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
> BTW boiled down that smoked turkey carcass to make gumbo stock, but
> chickened out on the microwave roux method. Old habits are hard to
> break.
My oldest daughter was visiting from England until yesterday, so Monday, at
her command and as promised, I made shrimp etoufee and a small pot (six
quarts) of chicken, sausage, okra, seafood (crab/shrimp/oyster) gumbo for a
family farewell get-together ... much to youngest daughter's chagrin, still
being at college for a couple more weeks, so I froze about a quart for the
night of her return.
You know you raised 'em right when, no matter where they are in the world,
the first thing out of their mouth's is "Dad, are you going to make gumbo?"
... and, if they can help it, the first thing in when they get home.
At Christmas I'll break out the big gumbo pot and make another 30 gallons
... all with my, now perfected, microwave roux technique. ;)
You really need to try it.
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John wrote:
> How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
I stopped watching PBS (and television in general) many years ago, but
I always found it ironic that the majority of hosts - and hostesses-
during their fundraising sessions wore tuxedos and evening gows,
respectively. I would have been more inclined to donate my money if
they looked poorer than me.
Marc (who does
give to charities)
On Dec 6, 4:57 am, charlie b <[email protected]> wrote:
[snip]. Or
> would you prefer O'Riely (sp?)
>
Is this the taste of blood in my mouth? Yes it is... I am biting my
tongue THAT hard!
Now I am biting my fingers... I must leave keyboard...
"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John wrote:
>>
>> How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
>
> On commercial TV you pay to view 5 or 6 times an hour
> by watching the endless commercials, then often pay
> again for cable service (remember when they told you
> you were paying for programming free of commercials?)
>
> As for the quality of content - PBS wins hands down
> with the exception of CSPAN - which is a push. Or
> would you prefer O'Riely (sp?) or Jerry Springer?
>
> charlie b
Whether their actual "commercial breaks" are shorter or otherwise they still
appear to to do the same 22 minutes or so of actual programming per each 30
minutes of air time that all of the commercial channels do anyway...they
just plug PBS ad nauseum inbetween the scant commercial
plugs......Incidently whats wrong with O'Reilly<G>?
Wait a minute....you ain't shared no coonass receipe for
etoufee that I recall... did you ???
I got the gumbo and done tried that back a year or two
back...tasty...
Swingman wrote:
> My oldest daughter was visiting from England until yesterday, so Monday, at
> her command and as promised, I made shrimp etoufee and a small pot (six
> quarts) of chicken, sausage, okra, seafood (crab/shrimp/oyster) gumbo for a
> family farewell get-together ...
I think it was [email protected] (John) who stated:
>How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
Hmmmm . . . an *annual* begathon.
I'm guessing here, but . . .
. . . ONCE per year?
Do I win a prize for a correct answer?
--
"Ladies and gentlemen take my advice.
Pull down your pants and slide on the ice."
-- Sidney Freedman
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:11:20 -0800, jo4hn <[email protected]>
wrote:
>John wrote:
>> How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
>>
>
>Only once, but it lasts 8 months.
> whine, bitch, grumble,
> jo4hn
Man I need to get your PBS channel. You mean you actually have 4
months out of the year that they aren't doing the beg-a-thon? Man, you
are really lucky. Here they cancel any wood related shows and show
local cooking shows all day during the apparently 11.75 months that
they have the beg-a-thon.
No, I don't watch much PBS and only donate grudgingly though my
federal taxes - and I suppose when I buy stuff from the many
advertsiers on this "non-commercial" public broadcasting system.
Dave Hall
John wrote:
>
> How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
On commercial TV you pay to view 5 or 6 times an hour
by watching the endless commercials, then often pay
again for cable service (remember when they told you
you were paying for programming free of commercials?)
As for the quality of content - PBS wins hands down
with the exception of CSPAN - which is a push. Or
would you prefer O'Riely (sp?) or Jerry Springer?
charlie b
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:57:23 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:
> As for the quality of content - PBS wins hands down
> with the exception of CSPAN - which is a push. Or
> would you prefer O'Riely (sp?) or Jerry Springer?
They do? Outside of one or two shows (woodworking related, of
course), I find pretty much everything on PBS to be utter crap.
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 19:26:59 -0600, [email protected] (John) wrote:
>How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
Which annual one? The Spring one? Or the Summer, Autumn, or Winter
one?
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:12:18 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
>> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:32:55 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:
>>
>> - and I suppose when I buy stuff from the many
>> >advertsiers on this "non-commercial" public broadcasting system.
>> >
>>
>> ???. Who is advertising on your PBS channel?
>
>Houston's, one of the first in existence, if not _the_ first TV station in
>the nation, has commercials from most car companies, banks, etc ... at the
>very beginning, and end, of programming.
>
>These are blatant _commercials_, some going up to 30 seconds, but most in
>the 15 second range, and run one after another for up to five minutes.
>
>There is no way I would contribute again even if they stopped the
>commercials, and particularly after seeing the Taj Mahal they built
>themselves, which is why I suspect they continue to have to rely upon them.
>
>I stopped contributing many years ago when a $20 check was returned for not
>meeting the "minimum contribution" amount.
>
>That, and I trained one of their audio engineers as an apprentice many years
>ago, who is now a key player, so I occasionally get to hear some of the
>dirty laundry.
That's too bad, it has not deteriorated that much in Mississippi and I
hope it does not. I like a lot of the programming.
Underwriters are common, but they had specific rules about the length
of the spot, only identification of the company and what their primary
business is, not hawking any specific product, etc. I thought that
the limit used to be about ten seconds for the underwriter
identification.
I know Delta was/is an underwriter on several programming segments and
the spots were set up to carefully observe the rules. I don't mind
seeing who underwrites if it doesn't drag on forever.
And people like Norm can use the products on the air, but not mention
them by brand name. In my book, nothing wrong with that. better than
an ad making claims that may or may not be true.
BTW boiled down that smoked turkey carcass to make gumbo stock, but
chickened out on the microwave roux method. Old habits are hard to
break.
Frank
I think it was "todd" <[email protected]> who stated:
>I think you missed the joke.
There was a joke?
Where??
C'mon, you can tell me . . . .
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:15:16 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
>
>> BTW boiled down that smoked turkey carcass to make gumbo stock, but
>> chickened out on the microwave roux method. Old habits are hard to
>> break.
>
>My oldest daughter was visiting from England until yesterday, so Monday, at
>her command and as promised, I made shrimp etoufee and a small pot (six
>quarts) of chicken, sausage, okra, seafood (crab/shrimp/oyster) gumbo for a
>family farewell get-together ... much to youngest daughter's chagrin, still
>being at college for a couple more weeks, so I froze about a quart for the
>night of her return.
>
>You know you raised 'em right when, no matter where they are in the world,
>the first thing out of their mouth's is "Dad, are you going to make gumbo?"
>... and, if they can help it, the first thing in when they get home.
>
>At Christmas I'll break out the big gumbo pot and make another 30 gallons
>... all with my, now perfected, microwave roux technique. ;)
>
>You really need to try it.
We await your recipe for gumbo, stirred with a wooden spoon, of
course! Love good gumbo!
"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:32:55 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:
>
> - and I suppose when I buy stuff from the many
> >advertsiers on this "non-commercial" public broadcasting system.
> >
>
> ???. Who is advertising on your PBS channel?
Houston's, one of the first in existence, if not _the_ first TV station in
the nation, has commercials from most car companies, banks, etc ... at the
very beginning, and end, of programming.
These are blatant _commercials_, some going up to 30 seconds, but most in
the 15 second range, and run one after another for up to five minutes.
There is no way I would contribute again even if they stopped the
commercials, and particularly after seeing the Taj Mahal they built
themselves, which is why I suspect they continue to have to rely upon them.
I stopped contributing many years ago when a $20 check was returned for not
meeting the "minimum contribution" amount.
That, and I trained one of their audio engineers as an apprentice many years
ago, who is now a key player, so I occasionally get to hear some of the
dirty laundry.
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"Don Fearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I think it was "todd" <[email protected]> who stated:
>
>>I think you missed the joke.
>
> There was a joke?
>
>
> Where??
>
>
> C'mon, you can tell me . . . .
This is one of those times when if I have to explain it, it won't be funny
any more.
todd
"Pat Barber" wrote in message
> Wait a minute....you ain't shared no coonass receipe for
> etoufee that I recall... did you ???
>
> I got the gumbo and done tried that back a year or two
> back...tasty...
Here's an easy one that will puzzle Frank B even further, and make you an
instant hit with SWMBO, family and friends ... just tell them you slaved
over it all day! ;)
NOTE: The first time folks attempt the below they can't believe it will work
so they can't resist adding/messing with the recipe, or quit too soon, or
use Mild Pace Picante sauce (it won't work, use HOT only!).
RESIST doing so!... follow it EXACTLY and you will be surprised, I
guarantee! And like all good Cajun dishes, it will be even better the next
day.
EZ Etoufee ... from an old post back in 2002:
>>
Take that same 8 Oz jar of Pace Picante Sauce (Hot ONLY!); add a can of
Campbell's Cream of Mushroom soup (NO water); a stick of butter or
margarine; bring all to a low boil; (RESIST temptation to add anything
else!) add 2 lbs. of crawfish or shrimp and cook about five minutes until
crawfish/shrimp is done. Serve over rice.
Takes all of 15 minutes. Best "bachelor" etoufee you ever ate ... you'd
swear your Cajun momma made it.
<<
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Frank Boettcher wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:32:55 -0500, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> - and I suppose when I buy stuff from the many
>
>>advertsiers on this "non-commercial" public broadcasting system.
>>
>
>
> ???. Who is advertising on your PBS channel?
>
>
>>Dave Hall
>
>
PBS has been running 15-30 spots for the last two years. See:
http://www.commercialalert.org/news/archive/2006/10/advertisers-get-warmer-reception-from-pbs
--
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Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
"Dave Hall" wrote in message
> On the other hand I don't see much of the "brought to you by gracious
> donations from the following..." type of underwriters listings like
> used to be prevalent on PBS (in my years ago experience watching Mr.
> Rodgers and Sesame Street with the kids). Those seemed more like what
> I could call non-commercial.
Even the public schools around here have company signs on them ... if you
don't believe it, I'll snap a picture of our local elementary and post it in
abpw.
Judging from the signs, and their size, you would also think that school
property "ballparks", paid for by, and belonging to the taxpayers, but used
by Little League, actually belonged to Real Estate and Insurance brokers.
Real altruistic motives ... yeah!
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
.
>
> At Christmas I'll break out the big gumbo pot and make another 30
> gallons
> ... all with my, now perfected, microwave roux technique. ;)
I'd have to take out a home equity loan just for enough crab meat to
make 30 gallons of gumbo.
--
"New Wave" Dave In Houston
"Don Fearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I think it was [email protected] (John) who stated:
>
>>How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
>
> Hmmmm . . . an *annual* begathon.
>
>
>
> I'm guessing here, but . . .
>
> . . . ONCE per year?
>
>
> Do I win a prize for a correct answer?
> --
> "Ladies and gentlemen take my advice.
> Pull down your pants and slide on the ice."
>
> -- Sidney Freedman
I think you missed the joke.
todd
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:09:12 -0600, Don Fearn <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I think it was [email protected] (John) who stated:
>
>>How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
>
>Hmmmm . . . an *annual* begathon.
>
>
>
>I'm guessing here, but . . .
>
>. . . ONCE per year?
You don't watch PBS, do you?
--
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Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
Frank Boettcher <[email protected]> wrote:
: Underwriters are common, but they had specific rules about the length
: of the spot, only identification of the company and what their primary
: business is, not hawking any specific product, etc. I thought that
: the limit used to be about ten seconds for the underwriter
: identification.
I think it's now 15 seconds, subject to the content constraints you
mention above. The picture is complicated by the fact that local
stations can air 30 second spots on local PBS channel programming -- the
really shot spot limits are for network, i.e. official PBS product, shows.
-- Andy Barss
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:45:04 -0500, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:54:40 -0600, Frank Boettcher
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:32:55 -0500, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>- and I suppose when I buy stuff from the many
>>>advertsiers on this "non-commercial" public broadcasting system.
>>>
>>
>>???. Who is advertising on your PBS channel?
>
>Well as I mentioned I don't watch a lot of PBS, but since they do show
>Norm once a year, I have noticed that Delta Woodworking Tools has a
>significant adverstisement before and after the show.
That's actually an underwriters segment, limited (or at least it has
been in the past) in length, content, and when it can be shown. Look
at it carefully, it essentially identifies the company and what their
main line of business is without hawking any specific product. Not
just Delta, all underwriters.
Or it least that is the way it was.
Frank
>>
>>>Dave Hall
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 19:26:59 -0600, [email protected] (John) wrote:
>How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
It would be nice if it was only once a year but it seems like once a
month. That're pretty much why I stopped watching PBS years back, I
got sick of all the whining.
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:40:35 -0500, "Lee Gordon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
><<Programs are just a provide a segway<s/p> between begging.>>
>
>FYI, it's spelled segue.
>
Unless, of course, they are providing an odd, two-wheeled electric cart
to people between begathons.
>Lee
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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:25:00 GMT, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>Frank Boettcher wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:32:55 -0500, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> - and I suppose when I buy stuff from the many
>>
>>>advertsiers on this "non-commercial" public broadcasting system.
>>>
>>
>>
>> ???. Who is advertising on your PBS channel?
>>
>>
>>>Dave Hall
>>
>>
>
>PBS has been running 15-30 spots for the last two years. See:
>
>http://www.commercialalert.org/news/archive/2006/10/advertisers-get-warmer-reception-from-pbs
I didn't know that. That's too bad.
Frank
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:58:33 -0600, Frank Boettcher
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:45:04 -0500, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:54:40 -0600, Frank Boettcher
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:32:55 -0500, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>- and I suppose when I buy stuff from the many
>>>>advertsiers on this "non-commercial" public broadcasting system.
>>>>
>>>
>>>???. Who is advertising on your PBS channel?
>>
>>Well as I mentioned I don't watch a lot of PBS, but since they do show
>>Norm once a year, I have noticed that Delta Woodworking Tools has a
>>significant adverstisement before and after the show.
>
>That's actually an underwriters segment, limited (or at least it has
>been in the past) in length, content, and when it can be shown. Look
>at it carefully, it essentially identifies the company and what their
>main line of business is without hawking any specific product. Not
>just Delta, all underwriters.
>
>Or it least that is the way it was.
>
>Frank
I guess I don't see any difference between generic Delta advertising
on commercial stations and generic Delta advertising on PBS. I admit I
have never seen an ad on PBS saying "buy a Delta Unisaw model xyz
because we cut wood better than Grizzly" or any other ad for a very
specific product or hawking a specific sale (i.e. "50% off Delta
blurfls Thursday through Saturday at the Ross park mall store only"),
but general name recognition ads similar to many national commercial
TV ads.
On the other hand I don't see much of the "brought to you by gracious
donations from the following..." type of underwriters listings like
used to be prevalent on PBS (in my years ago experience watching Mr.
Rodgers and Sesame Street with the kids). Those seemed more like what
I could call non-commercial.
Oh well.
Dave Hall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>
>>>>Dave Hall
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:32:55 -0500, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
- and I suppose when I buy stuff from the many
>advertsiers on this "non-commercial" public broadcasting system.
>
???. Who is advertising on your PBS channel?
>Dave Hall
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How many times a year do they have the annual begathon?
>
As often as young lovers celebrate their one month anniversary, three-month
anniversary....
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:54:40 -0600, Frank Boettcher
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:32:55 -0500, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>- and I suppose when I buy stuff from the many
>>advertsiers on this "non-commercial" public broadcasting system.
>>
>
>???. Who is advertising on your PBS channel?
Well as I mentioned I don't watch a lot of PBS, but since they do show
Norm once a year, I have noticed that Delta Woodworking Tools has a
significant adverstisement before and after the show. Most of the time
when I cruise by the PBS station while irritating my wife by channel
surfing, they are either begging for donations or an advertisement is
on. I admit that I am usually cruising by at the top, middle and
bottom of the hour (top and bottom are essentially the same aren't
they?) and they always have advertising between shows. Non-commercial
my ass...
>
>>Dave Hall
Tonight I did something I swore I would never do. No, not make a pledge to
a Public TV beg-a-thon. Worse. I manned the phones for a Public TV
beg-a-thon.
One of my friends is a music promoter who is presenting a Chris Botti
concert here in Hartord in April. He asked for volunteers to field pledge
calls during the airing of Chris's special and the attendant grovelling (not
to mention free plugging of the upcoming concert). Considering how many
concerts my friend has allowed me to attend gratis, I couldn't very well
turn him down. And, as a bonus, Chris was in studio with us.
I have to say, working the beg-a-thon is a hell of a lot more enjoyable than
watching it.
And, admit it, if it was Norm who was in studio, you'd probably volunteer,
too. I know I would.
Lee
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