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"Andy"

20/05/2005 2:25 PM

Rockler Combination Square

Has anyone used the Rockler Combination Square ($40)? I'm in the
market for a new one. I've heard that Starrett is the best - what
would the differences be?


This topic has 15 replies

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"AAvK"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 7:38 AM


>I just noticed Highland Hardware has a whole set (3 heads and blade)
> for the same price as the Rockler - has anyone used this one?
>

I definitely prohibit you from buying such foreign matter. And pertinent to my
previous reply to CW, THIS is the awesome price which I didn't know about:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00095V0R8/qid=1116684932/sr=1-35/ref=sr_1_35/103-5973910-5972627?v=glance&s=hi
and this one:
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00938643000&subcat=Precision+Tools

But I'd get the PEC.

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"Andy"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

20/05/2005 10:55 PM

I just noticed Highland Hardware has a whole set (3 heads and blade)
for the same price as the Rockler - has anyone used this one?

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"AAvK"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 8:20 AM


>> Actually, my mistake. that PEC one is a two piece, the Sears is a four
>> piece.
>>
>
> They state 2 piece, but I count 4 in the photo.
>
Yeah right but that price is the give, not for a four piece.

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"AAvK"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

20/05/2005 5:12 PM


> Squareness, fit and finish, clarity of graduations, longevity. BTW, there
> are a number of brands that equal or exceed Starret quality, most less
> expensive (but not by much).


Care to share those brands please? I would like to know... these cheapies
you can get at any hardware store are pretty bad, like I bought the Johnsons
ones, great square head but the rule is poorly stamped inaccurate soft
stainless. I think the current Stanleys are the best of the cheapies, coated
spring steel rules on those.

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DB

Duane Bozarth

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 9:19 AM

AAvK wrote:
>
> > Mititoyo and Brown&Sharp are the first to mind. I have had a Mititoyo for
> > eighteen years now (use it in a machine shop) and it is still great. Neither
> > of these is greatly less expensive than Starret but Mititoyo rules are far
> > easier to read, better engraving and finish. I can hold parts to +/- .005
> > with a Mititoyo rule, much harder to do with Starret. In the lower price
> > range, Craftsman used to have a good one. Look for their machinist's tools,
> > not woodworking. General, too, used to be good. I say used to be because I
> > haven't really checked in some years. May very well still be. Any of the
> > above will be far superior to hardware store grade Stanley's, ect.
> >
>
> Thanks, I have also seen "PEC Tools" USA on the 'net but they seem to be
> priced the same as Starret or more. Somewhat scant availability. They look
> seriously nice. I can get the Starret 12" 4r for about the same $'s as PEC's 6".
>
...

If you're interested, FWW did a review of many from expensive to cheap a
couple(?) of years ago. Covered all the varieties mentioned so far, I
believe I recall...

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"AAvK"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

20/05/2005 5:16 PM


> Has anyone used the Rockler Combination Square ($40)? I'm in the
> market for a new one. I've heard that Starrett is the best - what
> would the differences be?
>

I considered that one, but they don't explain the rule further than "stainless",
if it's not hardened (at least), all soft and bendy, then it's not worth it... wish
I knew of the great one for the low money.

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Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 12:05 AM

Squareness, fit and finish, clarity of graduations, longevity. BTW, there
are a number of brands that equal or exceed Starret quality, most less
expensive (but not by much).
"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Has anyone used the Rockler Combination Square ($40)? I'm in the
> market for a new one. I've heard that Starrett is the best - what
> would the differences be?
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 2:58 PM


"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:qSHje.21846$gp.17380@fed1read03...
>
>>I just noticed Highland Hardware has a whole set (3 heads and blade)
>> for the same price as the Rockler - has anyone used this one?
>>
>
> Actually, my mistake. that PEC one is a two piece, the Sears is a four
> piece.
>

They state 2 piece, but I count 4 in the photo.

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"AAvK"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 6:50 AM


> Mititoyo and Brown&Sharp are the first to mind. I have had a Mititoyo for
> eighteen years now (use it in a machine shop) and it is still great. Neither
> of these is greatly less expensive than Starret but Mititoyo rules are far
> easier to read, better engraving and finish. I can hold parts to +/- .005
> with a Mititoyo rule, much harder to do with Starret. In the lower price
> range, Craftsman used to have a good one. Look for their machinist's tools,
> not woodworking. General, too, used to be good. I say used to be because I
> haven't really checked in some years. May very well still be. Any of the
> above will be far superior to hardware store grade Stanley's, ect.
>

Thanks, I have also seen "PEC Tools" USA on the 'net but they seem to be
priced the same as Starret or more. Somewhat scant availability. They look
seriously nice. I can get the Starret 12" 4r for about the same $'s as PEC's 6".

PEC tools: http://www.productsengineering.com/

http://www.nolansupply.com/catdisplay.asp?category=Precision+Tools#Squares


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"AAvK"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

22/05/2005 2:23 PM


Here's a really trippy old combo square:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6179819105

They just don't make'um like they used-ta!

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not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 12:59 AM

Mititoyo and Brown&Sharp are the first to mind. I have had a Mititoyo for
eighteen years now (use it in a machine shop) and it is still great. Neither
of these is greatly less expensive than Starret but Mititoyo rules are far
easier to read, better engraving and finish. I can hold parts to +/- .005
with a Mititoyo rule, much harder to do with Starret. In the lower price
range, Craftsman used to have a good one. Look for their machinist's tools,
not woodworking. General, too, used to be good. I say used to be because I
haven't really checked in some years. May very well still be. Any of the
above will be far superior to hardware store grade Stanley's, ect.

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:30vje.11928$gp.10105@fed1read03...
>
> > Squareness, fit and finish, clarity of graduations, longevity. BTW,
there
> > are a number of brands that equal or exceed Starret quality, most less
> > expensive (but not by much).
>
>
> Care to share those brands please? I would like to know... these cheapies
> you can get at any hardware store are pretty bad, like I bought the
Johnsons
> ones, great square head but the rule is poorly stamped inaccurate soft
> stainless. I think the current Stanleys are the best of the cheapies,
coated
> spring steel rules on those.
>
> --
> Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
> cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
> not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
>
>

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

20/05/2005 11:53 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Squareness, fit and finish, clarity of graduations, longevity. BTW, there
> are a number of brands that equal or exceed Starret quality, most less
> expensive (but not by much).

eBay is a good place to get something like this as long as you know the
going price for a new one. I've gotten both my Starretts off ebay as
well as a number of dividers and calipers for my turning.

When searching I only look for Starrett, Brown & Sharpe, and Mitutoyo.
You could also include Scherr Tumico (American made and excellent
quality.) For older stuff I feel confident adding Millers Falls.

BTW, Starrett will recalibrate a square for what I thought was a pretty
fair price. My 6" combo was off - they replaced the screw-hold down and
nut, resquared, and sent a new scribe that I requested, for something on
the order of $30 total including shipping back a few years ago.
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"AAvK"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 7:49 AM


>I just noticed Highland Hardware has a whole set (3 heads and blade)
> for the same price as the Rockler - has anyone used this one?
>

Actually, my mistake. that PEC one is a two piece, the Sears is a four piece.

--
Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

GH

"George H Hughes"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 12:41 PM

I have one of the Highland Hardware 3 piece squares and like it very much.
Ruler is very good though I see minor places is could be better.
George in Warner Robins, GA

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0IHje.21845$gp.12898@fed1read03...
>
>>I just noticed Highland Hardware has a whole set (3 heads and blade)
>> for the same price as the Rockler - has anyone used this one?
>>
>
> I definitely prohibit you from buying such foreign matter. And pertinent
> to my
> previous reply to CW, THIS is the awesome price which I didn't know about:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00095V0R8/qid=1116684932/sr=1-35/ref=sr_1_35/103-5973910-5972627?v=glance&s=hi
> and this one:
> http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00938643000&subcat=Precision+Tools
>
> But I'd get the PEC.
>
> --
> Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
> cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
> not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
>

GH

"George H Hughes"

in reply to "Andy" on 20/05/2005 2:25 PM

21/05/2005 12:42 PM

I have a 3 piece one from Highland Hardware....
George in Warner Robins, GA

<snip>
>> Actually, my mistake. that PEC one is a two piece, the Sears is a four
>> piece.
>>
>
> They state 2 piece, but I count 4 in the photo.
>


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