Gb

GarageWoodworks

24/11/2009 9:47 PM

OT-Animated CAD and html continued

Ok. This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.

Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
Link below is what I came up with. This is what I came up with:

http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php

Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. I have DSL and it
loads reasonably fast

Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)

-Brian


This topic has 21 replies

LC

"Larry C"

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 7:02 AM


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> Ok. This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
>> implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>>
>> Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
>> Link below is what I came up with. This is what I came up with:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>>
>> Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. I have DSL and it
>> loads reasonably fast
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
> Try this, done with the free web exporter for Sketchup.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/Hutch-web/5804Hutch42309_index.html
>
> Let me know if it works in your brower ... it worked fine in Firefox for
> me.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Brian

Worked for me in IE 7

It did a little time for the images to load (10 seconds). I have DSL as
well

I think there is a way to put all of your images in one file so they load
quicker. I have limited web knowledge but IIRC I read about that before.
Maybe someone else has heard about it or knows more.

Larry C

JW

Jim Weisgram

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 9:28 AM

On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:47:15 -0800 (PST), GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Ok. This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
>implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
>Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
>Link below is what I came up with. This is what I came up with:
>
>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
>Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. I have DSL and it
>loads reasonably fast
>
>Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
>-Brian

Worked fine in IE 8, Safari 4, Google Chrome 3.0, and Firefox 3.5.
Worked in Opera 10 but the image noticeably flickered with a different
background showing with each image update. I am running WinXP.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 7:19 AM

GarageWoodworks said:

>Ok. This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
>implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
>Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
>Link below is what I came up with. This is what I came up with:
>
>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
>Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. I have DSL and it
>loads reasonably fast
>
>Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)

Looks OK other than the large number of files which are downloaded.
Drawing1.jpg through Drawing34.jpg totaled 7.24 megabytes!

An animated GIF is actually several images stored in one GIF file.
FWIW, what you are using is not an animated GIF but rather a
Javascript routine which scrolls through cached JPG images.
(Your mouse movements scroll through caches images via Javascript.)

Try this: (Only 375k bytes - vector info stored as XML in HTML page)
(Requires an eDrawings plug-in download - automatic on IE.)
http://webpages.charter.net/videodoctor/media/CompleteAssembly.htm

VRML is similar format should you desire this kind of 3D functionality
with low download overheads.


Greg G.

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 8:15 AM

On Nov 25, 11:08=A0am, Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
> > I used Sketchup to generate the code then I substitued the Sketchup
> > files with TurboCad JPG's. =A0I havent learned how to use Sketchup yet
> > and feel more comfortable with TCAD.
>
> I've been using TurboCAD for about 10 years and it's almost second nature=
to me now. =A0I've
> tried to use Sketchup at least a dozen times over the past year or so, bu=
t I always hit
> something that irks me to no end and I keep going back to TurboCAD.
>
> --
> Free bad advice available here.
> To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

I haven't been using TCAD as long as you, but I feel the same way.
IMHO SketchUp is very clunky to use.

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 6:31 AM

On Nov 25, 5:29=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
> > Ok. =A0This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
> > implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
> > Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
> > Link below is what I came up with. =A0This is what I came up with:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> > Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. =A0I have DSL and it
> > loads reasonably fast
>
> > Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
> Try this, done with the free web exporter for Sketchup.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/Hutch-web/5804Hutch42309_index.html
>
> Let me know if it works in your brower ... it worked fine in Firefox for =
me.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Karl,

I used Sketchup to generate the code then I substitued the Sketchup
files with TurboCad JPG's. I havent learned how to use Sketchup yet
and feel more comfortable with TCAD.

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 6:24 AM

On Nov 25, 7:48=A0am, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:29:31 -0600, the infamous Swingman
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>
>
> >GarageWoodworks wrote:
> >> Ok. =A0This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
> >> implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
> >> Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
> >> Link below is what I came up with. =A0This is what I came up with:
>
> >>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> >> Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. =A0I have DSL and it
> >> loads reasonably fast
>
> >> Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
> >Try this, done with the free web exporter for Sketchup.
>
> >http://www.e-woodshop.net/Hutch-web/5804Hutch42309_index.html
>
> >Let me know if it works in your brower ... it worked fine in Firefox for=
me.
>
> Ditto here. =A0And I think he did use SketchUp. (I peered into his
> page's PHP and CSS code.)
>
> --
> It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare;
> it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Seneca

Used Sketch up to generate the code and substituted the sketchup JPG's
with my TurboCad JPGs.

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 6:29 AM

On Nov 25, 7:02=A0am, "Larry C" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > GarageWoodworks wrote:
> >> Ok. =A0This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
> >> implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
> >> Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
> >> Link below is what I came up with. =A0This is what I came up with:
>
> >>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> >> Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. =A0I have DSL and it
> >> loads reasonably fast
>
> >> Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
> > Try this, done with the free web exporter for Sketchup.
>
> >http://www.e-woodshop.net/Hutch-web/5804Hutch42309_index.html
>
> > Let me know if it works in your brower ... it worked fine in Firefox fo=
r
> > me.
>
> > --
> >www.e-woodshop.net
> > Last update: 10/22/08
> > KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
> Brian
>
> Worked for me in IE 7
>
> It did a little time for the images to load (10 seconds). =A0I have DSL a=
s
> well
>
> I think there is a way to put all of your images in one file so they load
> quicker. I have limited web knowledge but IIRC I read about that before.
> Maybe someone else has heard about it or knows more.
>
> Larry C

Thanks. I'm going to try and compress each image more. They are
JPG's. I think I can get the files much smaller.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 4:44 AM

On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:47:15 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>Ok. This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
>implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
>Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
>Link below is what I came up with. This is what I came up with:
>
>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
>Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. I have DSL and it
>loads reasonably fast

DSL here, reasonably slow. That's an interesting angle you used, too.
I want to reach out and catch it from falling as I rotate it to the
side view. Har! So, did SketchUp output that anim for you? Cool. I
really must start using it.


>Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
Dat's some oogly maple, Brian. ;)


Oh, one last thing. I didn't hear any flutes. <groan>

P.S: The reason it works better in MS Internet Exploder is because you
designed it in MS Page Affront. Simple!

--
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare;
it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
-- Seneca

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 6:26 AM

On Nov 25, 7:44=A0am, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:47:15 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >Ok. =A0This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
> >implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
> >Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
> >Link below is what I came up with. =A0This is what I came up with:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> >Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. =A0I have DSL and it
> >loads reasonably fast
>
> DSL here, reasonably slow. =A0That's an interesting angle you used, too.
> I want to reach out and catch it from falling as I rotate it to the
> side view. =A0Har! =A0So, did SketchUp output that anim for you? =A0Cool.=
I
> really must start using it.

I used sketchup to generate the code and substituted the sketchup
files with my own TCAD JPG's.


>
> >Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
> Dat's some oogly maple, Brian. =A0;)

I know. Cherry looks nicer. Either I cant figure out how to get it
to render correctly or its just crappy at wood rendering.

>
> Oh, one last thing. I didn't hear any flutes. =A0<groan>

Good one! :^)


>
> P.S: The reason it works better in MS Internet Exploder is because you
> designed it in MS Page Affront. =A0Simple!
>
> --
> It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare;
> it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Seneca

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 6:28 AM

On Nov 25, 7:19=A0am, Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
> GarageWoodworks said:
>
> >Ok. =A0This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
> >implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
> >Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
> >Link below is what I came up with. =A0This is what I came up with:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> >Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. =A0I have DSL and it
> >loads reasonably fast
>
> >Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
> Looks OK other than the large number of files which are downloaded.
> Drawing1.jpg through Drawing34.jpg totaled =A07.24 megabytes!
>
> An animated GIF is actually several images stored in one GIF file.
> FWIW, what you are using is not an animated GIF but rather a
> Javascript routine which scrolls through cached JPG images.
> (Your mouse movements scroll through caches images via Javascript.)

Yeah. I goofed with the post. I actually have an animated gif also
that is 200kb. I like the user interactivity of the JavaScript.


>
> Try this: =A0(Only 375k bytes - vector info stored as XML in HTML page)
> (Requires an eDrawings plug-in download - automatic on IE.)http://webpage=
s.charter.net/videodoctor/media/CompleteAssembly.htm
>
> VRML is similar format should you desire this kind of 3D functionality
> with low download overheads.

I looked into that. I would prefer something that didn't require
visitors to download a plugin. Most people are sketchy about doing
that sort of thing and will just leave.

>
> Greg G.

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 6:58 AM

On Nov 25, 7:19=A0am, Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
> GarageWoodworks said:
>
> >Ok. =A0This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
> >implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
> >Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
> >Link below is what I came up with. =A0This is what I came up with:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> >Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. =A0I have DSL and it
> >loads reasonably fast
>
> >Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
> Looks OK other than the large number of files which are downloaded.
> Drawing1.jpg through Drawing34.jpg totaled =A07.24 megabytes!
>
> An animated GIF is actually several images stored in one GIF file.
> FWIW, what you are using is not an animated GIF but rather a
> Javascript routine which scrolls through cached JPG images.
> (Your mouse movements scroll through caches images via Javascript.)
>
> Try this: =A0(Only 375k bytes - vector info stored as XML in HTML page)
> (Requires an eDrawings plug-in download - automatic on IE.)http://webpage=
s.charter.net/videodoctor/media/CompleteAssembly.htm
>
> VRML is similar format should you desire this kind of 3D functionality
> with low download overheads.
>
> Greg G.

OK. I was using Firefox the first time I tried and it didnt work.
'Then' I noticed what you wrote about IE <slaps forehead>.

That is very cool!! Unfortunately I think most will not download the
plugin and will leave the page (I could be wrong here).

Thanks again!

JW

Jim Weisgram

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 1:21 PM

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:15:53 -0800 (PST), GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Nov 25, 12:28 pm, Jim Weisgram <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:47:15 -0800 (PST), GarageWoodworks
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Ok.  This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
>> >implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>>
>> >Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
>> >Link below is what I came up with.  This is what I came up with:
>>
>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>>
>> >Please let me know how it loads/handles for you.  I have DSL and it
>> >loads reasonably fast
>>
>> >Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>>
>> >-Brian
>>
>> Worked fine in IE 8, Safari 4, Google Chrome 3.0, and Firefox 3.5.
>> Worked in Opera 10 but the image noticeably flickered with a different
>> background showing with each image update. I am running WinXP.
>
>Thanks Jim. I reduced the file size of the individual frames so it
>loads faster.

Looks much smoother in all the browsers. My version of Opera just
autoupdated to 10.10 and while it still has an annoying flicker when
the image updates, it happens infrequently. It was strange, first I
saw it with each update, but after a screen refresh I don't see it
much, if at all.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 4:29 AM

GarageWoodworks wrote:
> Ok. This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
> implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
> Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
> Link below is what I came up with. This is what I came up with:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. I have DSL and it
> loads reasonably fast
>
> Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)

Try this, done with the free web exporter for Sketchup.

http://www.e-woodshop.net/Hutch-web/5804Hutch42309_index.html

Let me know if it works in your brower ... it worked fine in Firefox for me.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

AL

A Lurker

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

26/11/2009 12:04 AM

Jim Weisgram <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Looks much smoother in all the browsers. My version of Opera just
> autoupdated to 10.10 and while it still has an annoying flicker when
> the image updates, it happens infrequently. It was strange, first I
> saw it with each update, but after a screen refresh I don't see it
> much, if at all.
>

Looking at it in Opera 9 and 10.10 and no flicker here.

Jerry

JW

Jim Weisgram

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 5:29 PM

[...snip...]
>
>Looks much smoother in all the browsers. My version of Opera just
>autoupdated to 10.10 and while it still has an annoying flicker when
>the image updates, it happens infrequently. It was strange, first I
>saw it with each update, but after a screen refresh I don't see it
>much, if at all.

Well, I figured out the pattern. Once I load Opera from scratch, and
display the bookcase, and scroll through the JPG images, each image as
it displays will first clear the frame with a grey background, then
update with the current image with a white background. Once that image
has displayed, it is cached and further displays of that image are
much faster. Once all the images are cached, the flickering completely
goes away.

I only see this happen in Opera, and as "A Lurker" observed, it
doesn't happen to everyone using Opera.

Looking at the "flicker", it is the same background color as the rest
of the page. (bgcolor=#CCCCCC). Perhaps if the frame's background
color containing the images was #FFFFFF it wouldn't flicker.

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 6:26 AM

On Nov 25, 7:37=A0am, Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
> Greg G. said:
>
> >VRML is similar format should you desire this kind of 3D functionality
> >with low download overheads.
>
> If you're really feeling froggy with 3D,
> =A0Look here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender3D- About Blender
>
> http://www.blender.org/- download (Free)
> (Available for Windows, Linux, MacOS, Solaris, and Irix
> in both 32 and 64 bit configurations.)
>
> and here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X3D- X3Dhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wik=
i/Vrml- VRML (deprecated)
>
> All Free!
> FWIW,
>
> Greg G.

I'll check that out. Thanks!

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 11:15 AM

On Nov 25, 12:28=A0pm, Jim Weisgram <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:47:15 -0800 (PST), GarageWoodworks
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Ok. =A0This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
> >implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
> >Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
> >Link below is what I came up with. =A0This is what I came up with:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> >Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. =A0I have DSL and it
> >loads reasonably fast
>
> >Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
> >-Brian
>
> Worked fine in IE 8, Safari 4, Google Chrome 3.0, and Firefox 3.5.
> Worked in Opera 10 but the image noticeably flickered with a different
> background showing with each image update. I am running WinXP.

Thanks Jim. I reduced the file size of the individual frames so it
loads faster.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 7:37 AM

Greg G. said:

>VRML is similar format should you desire this kind of 3D functionality
>with low download overheads.

If you're really feeling froggy with 3D,
Look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender3D - About Blender

http://www.blender.org/ - download (Free)
(Available for Windows, Linux, MacOS, Solaris, and Irix
in both 32 and 64 bit configurations.)

and here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X3D - X3D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrml - VRML (deprecated)

All Free!
FWIW,

Greg G.

ee

evodawg

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 8:00 AM

GarageWoodworks wrote:

> Ok. This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
> implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>
> Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
> Link below is what I came up with. This is what I came up with:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. I have DSL and it
> loads reasonably fast
>
> Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
> -Brian
Loaded very fast on my DSL and it worked fine in Firefox using Linux OS!
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 10:08 AM

GarageWoodworks wrote:
> I used Sketchup to generate the code then I substitued the Sketchup
> files with TurboCad JPG's. I havent learned how to use Sketchup yet
> and feel more comfortable with TCAD.

I've been using TurboCAD for about 10 years and it's almost second nature to me now. I've
tried to use Sketchup at least a dozen times over the past year or so, but I always hit
something that irks me to no end and I keep going back to TurboCAD.

--
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 24/11/2009 9:47 PM

25/11/2009 4:48 AM

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:29:31 -0600, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> Ok. This is a continuation to one of my previous posts on how to
>> implement user view control to a 3D-CAD drawing.
>>
>> Animated gif's seemed to be the easiest and cheapest (free) approach.
>> Link below is what I came up with. This is what I came up with:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>>
>> Please let me know how it loads/handles for you. I have DSL and it
>> loads reasonably fast
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any feedback (design, html, or otherwise)
>
>Try this, done with the free web exporter for Sketchup.
>
>http://www.e-woodshop.net/Hutch-web/5804Hutch42309_index.html
>
>Let me know if it works in your brower ... it worked fine in Firefox for me.

Ditto here. And I think he did use SketchUp. (I peered into his
page's PHP and CSS code.)

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It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare;
it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
-- Seneca


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