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tiredofspam

02/07/2012 7:11 PM

Planer blades.

Just switched out my planer blades today.
Damn I wish I had done that earlier. I had a feeling my feed problems
might be related.

After seeing the cut after, I'm wondering why I didn't do it earlier.
It's like glass again.

Even though I sharpen my hand plane blades regularly, I avoid the
machines until I have to. The jointer I touch up while still on the
jointer. But the planer ... that's another story. I noticed that the cut
was also off from one side to the other. And that was really getting my
attention.

Plan to bring the blades to Forrest when I drop my saw blade off. I
figure if they sharpen it like my saw blade, I'll be happy.


This topic has 22 replies

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 6:25 PM



"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
> fixed my shop door where I accidentally locked it and had to break in,

Sounds like a security problem. Any ideas on keeping out the local riff
raff? :)


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 7:44 PM


"Dave" wrote:

> Just out of interest's sake, is there much of a cost difference
> sharpening spiral planer blades as compared to straight ones? And,
> is
> a specialty sharpening shop needed for them or can most do the job
> these days?
----------------------------------
SFWIW, my sharpening service uses a Swiss made machine (wonder why
that doesn't surprise me?) that is software controlled.

Specific software data points for a given blade are down loaded from a
library and you are off and running.

Lew



Ll

Leon

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 5:26 PM

On 7/3/2012 3:53 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:27:56 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
>> How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
>> You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
>> helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
>> understand how you do it all.
>
> Nah! They only fake it as woodworkers and home builders. The real
> truth it that the were working on a home plot and struck oil. They
> managed to buy the plot and now they're closet multi-millionaires.
>


Every one in Texas has an oil well. LOL

Actually there is an oil well two streets over in our neighborhood.

Ll

Leon

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 10:37 PM

On 7/3/2012 7:41 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:55:36 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Actually there is an oil well two streets over in our neighborhood.
>
>> Hey, Dave ... now you know were all that Festool comes from!! :)
>
> What? You mean Leon tunneled over to that well and tapped in?
>


Shhhhhhhh!

Sk

Swingman

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 7:13 PM

On 7/3/2012 5:20 PM, G. Ross wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 7/3/2012 3:53 PM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:27:56 -0400, "G. Ross"<[email protected]>
>>>> How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
>>>> You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
>>>> helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
>>>> understand how you do it all.
>>>
>>> Nah! They only fake it as woodworkers and home builders. The real
>>> truth it that the were working on a home plot and struck oil. They
>>> managed to buy the plot and now they're closet multi-millionaires.
>>
>> Hehe ... yep, when I can collar Leon into helping me deliver the
>> occasional chicken coop I've been coerced into building for someone
>> else, and with all that extra time I have on hand, we kinda do look like
>> the Beverly Hillbillies humming down the road:
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/ChezPouletAustin_Ranchette?authkey=Gv1sRgCI7En8qbsdynCQ#5455267162008756834
>>
>>
>> (there is no truth to the rumor that there's oil magnates in either of
>> our closets ... pest control is the key)
>>
> When I lived it Texas somehow I got the mineral rights along with the
> house (It was inside the city limits). Someone put in a gas well about
> a half mile behind our house down in the woods. The first year our
> share of the profits was $25. The second year it was $0.25. I kept the
> check as a keepsake to show I was an oil baron. The company sent me $10
> worth of letters begging me to cash the check so their books would
> balance, but I never did. The third year they capped off the well.

Yep, with "town lot" O&G leasing, the Lessor usually makes his money on
the signing bonus, or never.

1/8th royalty, on a +/- 1/8th acre lot, in a 640 acre gas pool, is akin
to a popcorn fart in a hurricane.

Since most company's won't drill without a solid drilling block, the
best thing to do with a town lot is hold out until the rig is delivered
(I can tell some stories about that).

In your case, if you had held out, and you got 8/8ths participation on
the +/-1/8th acre lot (just a guess on lot size), that first year
royalty payment would have been closer to $200. Marginally better than a
sharp poke in the eye.

Then again, by not signing, and depending upon how good their lawyers
are, you might have been stuck with operating costs as an operating partner.

I've been on both sides of that fence ... :)

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Ll

Leon

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 11:48 AM

On 7/3/2012 10:19 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Yes, they do.



Good to know
>>
>>
>> Does Forrest sharpen planer knives?
>

Sk

Swingman

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 6:58 PM

On 7/3/2012 5:25 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>> fixed my shop door where I accidentally locked it and had to break in,
>
> Sounds like a security problem. Any ideas on keeping out the local riff
> raff? :)

:)


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Sk

Swingman

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 6:55 PM

On 7/3/2012 5:26 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 7/3/2012 3:53 PM, Dave wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:27:56 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
>>> How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
>>> You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
>>> helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
>>> understand how you do it all.
>>
>> Nah! They only fake it as woodworkers and home builders. The real
>> truth it that the were working on a home plot and struck oil. They
>> managed to buy the plot and now they're closet multi-millionaires.
>>
>
>
> Every one in Texas has an oil well. LOL
>
> Actually there is an oil well two streets over in our neighborhood.


Hey, Dave ... now you know were all that Festool comes from!! :)

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Leon

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 3:47 PM

On 7/3/2012 3:27 PM, G. Ross wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 7/3/2012 10:19 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>> Yes, they do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good to know
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does Forrest sharpen planer knives?
>>>
>>
>>
> How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
> You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
> helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
> understand how you do it all.
>


Swingman charges a lot. '~)

I retired at 40 and do this mostly for fun although lately I have been
getting more and more work. I don't charge enough but it keeps me as
busy as I want to be. At the moment I am between jobs, Swingman and I
deliver my last pieces yesterday morning.

Basically it helps to be working from home as we both do and we do often
work weekends and later in the evenings and earlier that many get up.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 4:04 PM

On 7/3/2012 3:53 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:27:56 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
>> How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
>> You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
>> helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
>> understand how you do it all.
>
> Nah! They only fake it as woodworkers and home builders. The real
> truth it that the were working on a home plot and struck oil. They
> managed to buy the plot and now they're closet multi-millionaires.

Hehe ... yep, when I can collar Leon into helping me deliver the
occasional chicken coop I've been coerced into building for someone
else, and with all that extra time I have on hand, we kinda do look like
the Beverly Hillbillies humming down the road:

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/ChezPouletAustin_Ranchette?authkey=Gv1sRgCI7En8qbsdynCQ#5455267162008756834

(there is no truth to the rumor that there's oil magnates in either of
our closets ... pest control is the key)

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MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 12:22 PM

tiredofspam wrote:

>
> That struggle might be the reason that I put off changing this long
> this time. It's always in the back of your mind if you know what I
> mean.

Very well! Sometimes it seems we want to do things just to say we could or
did do them. Sort of a pride thing. And... that is not all that bad in and
of itself. Capability is a worthwhile thing. Then again... time to finish
and whatever else we want to call it, in order to simply get a great result
(after we have proven we can do it and put a few more hairs on our
chests....), can be well worth the small amount spent. Too many times, we
insist on doing things the foolishly long-handed way, just so we can say we
did - or even worse... so we can tell people we are "craftsman". Hell - go
for it, and screw the struggle, and just get it done. It's cheap enough.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 11:19 AM

Yes, they do.

I am going down to drop my saw blade after the holiday. I asked if I
could get a tour of the shop. I always like to see someone elses shop.
You never know what kind of storage or interesting ideas you get.

If they come out as sharp as the saw blades it will be worth the $10 per
blade to sharpen. I did the last one myself and while it came out
excellent as is proof by the cut I am getting, I remember how hard I
struggled to knock down the nick and then size the blade, then hone it.
A big long blade is tougher than a hand held plane iron.

That struggle might be the reason that I put off changing this long this
time. It's always in the back of your mind if you know what I mean.

On 7/3/2012 8:13 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 7/2/2012 6:11 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Just switched out my planer blades today.
>> Damn I wish I had done that earlier. I had a feeling my feed problems
>> might be related.
>>
>> After seeing the cut after, I'm wondering why I didn't do it earlier.
>> It's like glass again.
>>
>> Even though I sharpen my hand plane blades regularly, I avoid the
>> machines until I have to. The jointer I touch up while still on the
>> jointer. But the planer ... that's another story. I noticed that the cut
>> was also off from one side to the other. And that was really getting my
>> attention.
>>
>> Plan to bring the blades to Forrest when I drop my saw blade off. I
>> figure if they sharpen it like my saw blade, I'll be happy.
>
>
> Does Forrest sharpen planer knives?

Du

Dave

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 4:53 PM

On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:27:56 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
>How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
> You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
>helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
>understand how you do it all.

Nah! They only fake it as woodworkers and home builders. The real
truth it that the were working on a home plot and struck oil. They
managed to buy the plot and now they're closet multi-millionaires.

Du

Dave

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 8:39 PM

On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:20:43 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
>our share of the profits was $25. The second year it was $0.25. I
>kept the check as a keepsake to show I was an oil baron. The company
>sent me $10 worth of letters begging me to cash the check so their
>books would balance, but I never did. The third year they capped off
>the well.

That reminds me of when I got a .05 cheque from a law firm I had
business with. Yup. .05 cents. The lawyer I had was going off to start
up his own firm and the company wanted to keep the books straight
seeing as to how they had overcharged me. I never cashed that cheque
either.

I've always wondered what those .05 cents cost them to record, refund,
mail and balance.

Du

Dave

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 8:41 PM

On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:55:36 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Actually there is an oil well two streets over in our neighborhood.

>Hey, Dave ... now you know were all that Festool comes from!! :)

What? You mean Leon tunneled over to that well and tapped in?

Du

Dave

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 10:22 PM

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 21:00:56 -0500, "HeyBub" <[email protected]>
>Look around. There are blade sharpening services in every city. They usually
>service the paper-cutting blades found in print shops, but a planer or
>joiner blade is much the same (only smaller).

Just out of interest's sake, is there much of a cost difference
sharpening spiral planer blades as compared to straight ones? And, is
a specialty sharpening shop needed for them or can most do the job
these days?

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 6:20 PM

Swingman wrote:
> On 7/3/2012 3:53 PM, Dave wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:27:56 -0400, "G. Ross"<[email protected]>
>>> How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
>>> You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
>>> helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
>>> understand how you do it all.
>>
>> Nah! They only fake it as woodworkers and home builders. The real
>> truth it that the were working on a home plot and struck oil. They
>> managed to buy the plot and now they're closet multi-millionaires.
>
> Hehe ... yep, when I can collar Leon into helping me deliver the
> occasional chicken coop I've been coerced into building for someone
> else, and with all that extra time I have on hand, we kinda do look like
> the Beverly Hillbillies humming down the road:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/ChezPouletAustin_Ranchette?authkey=Gv1sRgCI7En8qbsdynCQ#5455267162008756834
>
> (there is no truth to the rumor that there's oil magnates in either of
> our closets ... pest control is the key)
>
When I lived it Texas somehow I got the mineral rights along with the
house (It was inside the city limits). Someone put in a gas well
about a half mile behind our house down in the woods. The first year
our share of the profits was $25. The second year it was $0.25. I
kept the check as a keepsake to show I was an oil baron. The company
sent me $10 worth of letters begging me to cash the check so their
books would balance, but I never did. The third year they capped off
the well.

--
G.W. Ross

He who laughs last, thinks slowest.





BB

Bill

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 5:32 PM

Swingman wrote:
> On 7/3/2012 3:53 PM, Dave wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:27:56 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
>>> How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
>>> You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
>>> helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
>>> understand how you do it all.
>>
>> Nah! They only fake it as woodworkers and home builders. The real
>> truth it that the were working on a home plot and struck oil. They
>> managed to buy the plot and now they're closet multi-millionaires.
>
> Hehe ... yep, when I can collar Leon into helping me deliver the
> occasional chicken coop I've been coerced into building for someone
> else, and with all that extra time I have on hand, we kinda do look like
> the Beverly Hillbillies humming down the road:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/ChezPouletAustin_Ranchette?authkey=Gv1sRgCI7En8qbsdynCQ#5455267162008756834
>

That may indeed be one of the finest looking chicken coops I have seen.
Delivering it with red ribbons is a nice touch! : )



>
> (there is no truth to the rumor that there's oil magnates in either of
> our closets ... pest control is the key)
>

Ll

Leon

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 7:13 AM

On 7/2/2012 6:11 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Just switched out my planer blades today.
> Damn I wish I had done that earlier. I had a feeling my feed problems
> might be related.
>
> After seeing the cut after, I'm wondering why I didn't do it earlier.
> It's like glass again.
>
> Even though I sharpen my hand plane blades regularly, I avoid the
> machines until I have to. The jointer I touch up while still on the
> jointer. But the planer ... that's another story. I noticed that the cut
> was also off from one side to the other. And that was really getting my
> attention.
>
> Plan to bring the blades to Forrest when I drop my saw blade off. I
> figure if they sharpen it like my saw blade, I'll be happy.


Does Forrest sharpen planer knives?

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 9:00 PM

tiredofspam wrote:
> Just switched out my planer blades today.
> Damn I wish I had done that earlier. I had a feeling my feed problems
> might be related.
>
> After seeing the cut after, I'm wondering why I didn't do it earlier.
> It's like glass again.
>
> Even though I sharpen my hand plane blades regularly, I avoid the
> machines until I have to. The jointer I touch up while still on the
> jointer. But the planer ... that's another story. I noticed that the
> cut was also off from one side to the other. And that was really
> getting my attention.
>
> Plan to bring the blades to Forrest when I drop my saw blade off. I
> figure if they sharpen it like my saw blade, I'll be happy.

Look around. There are blade sharpening services in every city. They usually
service the paper-cutting blades found in print shops, but a planer or
joiner blade is much the same (only smaller).

I take my planer blades to a shop that resharpens blades for commercial
printer's paper cutters. The largest blade they can do is about five feet in
length.

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 4:27 PM

Leon wrote:
> On 7/3/2012 10:19 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Yes, they do.
>
>
>
> Good to know
>>>
>>>
>>> Does Forrest sharpen planer knives?
>>
>
>
How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
understand how you do it all.

--
G.W. Ross

He who laughs last, thinks slowest.





Sk

Swingman

in reply to tiredofspam on 02/07/2012 7:11 PM

03/07/2012 3:52 PM

On 7/3/2012 3:27 PM, G. Ross wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 7/3/2012 10:19 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>> Yes, they do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good to know
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does Forrest sharpen planer knives?
>>>
>>
>>
> How do you and Swing ever get anything done (such as making a living)?
> You do such fine work but you are always online giving advice and
> helping us lesser mortals. We appreciate it but I still don't
> understand how you do it all.

ROTFL ... note the date. Most of us folks are taking a much needed break. :)

And besides, since I posted that post before last, I've picked up, then
unloaded, some 8' pipe for pipe clamps, loaded two sheets of plywood in
the truck to be rough cut in the next thirty minutes (gotta wait for
"climate change" to resume sunny!), fixed my shop door where I
accidentally locked it and had to break in, and organized my sandpaper
and ten years worth of jigs.

An easy day, so far ... and the shop door can never be more than 60'
from wheresoever I sit.

And Leon is even closer, unless he's picking up Great Dane poop. ;)

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