On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:17:11 -0500, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>,;One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
>,;incorrect.
>,;
>,;
>,;http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
1217 Years ago when trolleys ran in the Twin Cities they had a tool
like this to reach down through the floor to switch to a different
track. This allowed the driver to change the switch without getting
out of the car.
>> http://pzphotosans218-49.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
> 1218: Thick copper!
>
> The Inuit were big smokers since the 18th Century. Nontoxic matches
> weren't invented until the 20th. In the lower 48, one normally lit a pipe
> by lighting a stick in a wood fire. I don't think the Inuit had wood
> fires in winter.
>
> I think it's a pipe lighter. The specimen in question had steel wool in
> the bottom. I think it burned animal oil. The thick copper would help
> heat from fire in the bowl keep oil in the handle liquid. You'd tip it to
> add oil either to keep the fire going or to make it flare up to light a
> pipe.
>
> It doesn't look like a good design to provide light, but it might make a
> small amount of oil burn a long time and it looks pretty windproof, for an
> Inuit smoking while sitting by a seal hole.
Sounds reasonable, I passed your idea on to the owner and will let you know
when there is a response.
Rob
"Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> <snip>
> If a fireproof material like a wad of steel wool...
Hehehe
Ever tried putting a match to steel wool?
--
Jeff R.
Thanks to Edward for solving this item for us, it's a Japanese brush and ink
holder, as seen on the site below:
http://www.stutler.cc/pens/yatate/index.html
Since several people did guess paint pot and ink holder, I was planning to
add those guesses to my answer page until the owner told me that the inside
and lid was covered with soot. So it looks like someone threw us a curve
ball by burning something in the ink holder. A couple years ago I had
posted a different style yatate on my site, it had a larger storage area for
the brushes, so I didn't think it was the same thing:
http://pzphotosan81l.blogspot.com/
Actually it's kind of fun when all indications point in one direction and
then the real answer turns out to be something else, I see it as a good
reminder to keep an open mind when trying to solve these puzzles.
Rob
On Feb 9, 9:31 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks to Edward for solving this item for us, it's a Japanese brush and ink
> holder, as seen on the site below:
>
> http://www.stutler.cc/pens/yatate/index.html
>
> Since several people did guess paint pot and ink holder, I was planning to
> add those guesses to my answer page until the owner told me that the inside
> and lid was covered with soot. So it looks like someone threw us a curve
> ball by burning something in the ink holder.
The dried black ink would look exactly like soot and would scrape off
the same way. You can tell the difference by adding a little water to
the residue and rubbing it between your fingers.
R
On Feb 7, 4:17=A0am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1218 looks like an ink pot, possibly from prewar Japan.
On Feb 6, 11:17 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1216. I think it's a film can to take the movie to the theater.
Karl
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
>
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
1219: It's a trolling plane for deep water fishing.
-Carl
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> On Feb 6, 11:17 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> > incorrect.
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Rob
>
> 1216. I think it's a film can to take the movie to the theater.
> Karl
Hey! I got on of those in the heap outback.
R.H. wrote:
>>> http://pzphotosans218-49.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>> 1218: Thick copper!
>>
>> The Inuit were big smokers since the 18th Century. Nontoxic matches
>> weren't invented until the 20th. In the lower 48, one normally lit a
>> pipe by lighting a stick in a wood fire. I don't think the Inuit had
>> wood fires in winter.
>>
>> I think it's a pipe lighter. The specimen in question had steel wool
>> in the bottom. I think it burned animal oil. The thick copper would
>> help heat from fire in the bowl keep oil in the handle liquid. You'd
>> tip it to add oil either to keep the fire going or to make it flare up
>> to light a pipe.
>>
>> It doesn't look like a good design to provide light, but it might make
>> a small amount of oil burn a long time and it looks pretty windproof,
>> for an Inuit smoking while sitting by a seal hole.
>
>
> Sounds reasonable, I passed your idea on to the owner and will let you
> know when there is a response.
>
>
> Rob
It looks as if steel wool wasn't available until the 20th Century. I
wonder what would have been used before then.
In the lower 48, fire was carried by filling an iron kettle with coals
and covering it. Now I wonder if the mystery device was a means of
preserving and transporting fire without wood coals.
If a fireproof material like a wad of steel wool were saturated with
fat, set afire, dropped into a small copper bowl of fat, and covered, I
wonder how long it might burn. The thick copper bowl may have been to
spread the heat so it wouldn't scorch what it rested on. Perhaps
wrapping one's hand around the stem would warm it enough to liquefy any
oil inside so a little could be added to the bowl.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
>
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
1215 It is a "thucker jack", used to thange the thires on thmall thucks.
1216 Carrying case for replacement stop signs for Disneyland's Autopia.
1217 It is a "Captain Kangaroo Wacky Whirler" c. 1960s. This toy is no
longer sold. Reported to be second in injuries only to "Lawn Darts".
1218 Inuit anti-termite smoke generator. The smoke was used to stop termite
infestations of igloos. Apparently they worked very well.
1219 Contraceptive device.
1220 Non-tangling jumper cables.
-- Dogstar
Jeff R. wrote:
> "Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> <snip>
>
>> If a fireproof material like a wad of steel wool...
>
> Hehehe
> Ever tried putting a match to steel wool?
>
> --
> Jeff R.
>
>
The fine stuff burns. What was found in the bowl was described as steel
wool. If it was in there when there was fire in the bowl, I guess it
didn't burn.
On Feb 7, 4:17 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
1215. Specific purpose was to sell it and make money for the
company. ;)
1216. Cannister for film reels.
1217. Clapboard slick.
1218. Possibly a paint pot.
1219. No idea. Looks like a lens setup, but I don't think lens
optics have anything to do with it.
1220. Probably double-ended pliers for stretching canvases for
painting.
R
In article <[email protected]>,
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
Here are my guesses:
1215 -- Hmmm...the only Tucker I can think of offhand was the ill-fated
car manufacturer, but this doesn't look to date from that era. Maybe
something railroad related?
1216 -- This case might be just the right size and shape to hold a few
reels of movie film, presumably for carrying around to various theaters
(or as part of a traveling theater).
1217 -- This could be a slick for removing bark from logs and similar
tasks--essentially a large chisel for rough work.
1218 -- In the old Infocom "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" text
adventure game, there's an object that is called "The thing your aunt
gave you that you don't know what it is." I think this may be one of
those.
1219 -- This looks like a lens mounted to be used in optical
demonstrations, but the lens-shaped part does not appear to be very
refractive at all. Maybe it can somehow be filled with various liquids
to demonstrate their optical properties?
1220 -- Detachable handle for some thin product, such as sheet metal
plates. It seems the hinge pivots would want to tend to get out of
alignment and could cause no end of annoyance if they aren't well made.
Now to see other ideas...
--
Andrew Erickson
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot
R.H. wrote:
> Five of the six have been answered correctly, still not sure about
> number 1218, the one that looks like a pipe. The rest of the answers
> along with a few links can be seen here:
>
> http://pzphotosans218-49.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
1218: Thick copper!
The Inuit were big smokers since the 18th Century. Nontoxic matches
weren't invented until the 20th. In the lower 48, one normally lit a
pipe by lighting a stick in a wood fire. I don't think the Inuit had
wood fires in winter.
I think it's a pipe lighter. The specimen in question had steel wool in
the bottom. I think it burned animal oil. The thick copper would help
heat from fire in the bowl keep oil in the handle liquid. You'd tip it
to add oil either to keep the fire going or to make it flare up to light
a pipe.
It doesn't look like a good design to provide light, but it might make a
small amount of oil burn a long time and it looks pretty windproof, for
an Inuit smoking while sitting by a seal hole.
R.H. wrote:
> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
>
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
1220 looks good for carrying a hot iron object, perhaps up to 1/4"
thick, at a shop or construction site. Pinching it at two places would
help keep it from working loose.
On 2008-02-07, R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
>
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
1215) Hmm ... looks to me like a workpiece leveling jack used by
machinists for stabilizing a workpiece mounted on a planer
table -- or perhaps also sometimes on one of the larger shapers.
1216) Transport case for a movie in multiple reels. Looks like about
a three-reel case if it is 35mm, which it would be in the 1930s.
1217) Hmm ... for cleaning clinkers from the firebox of a steam
locomotive?
1218) Perhaps for shooting fire at something?
If the handle were open at the other end, I would consider it as
possibly being for smoking something -- perhaps illegal. :-)
1219) Looks like a way of making a lens from two watch crystals
filled with water (or some other transparent liquid).
It might be for determining the index of refraction of different
liquids by measuring the focal length produced and comparing it
to water and other known liquids?
1220) Looks like something for picking up sheet metal by the edge and
carrying it while a single hand gripping both curved handles
holds both sets of pliers clamped tight onto the metal.
Now to see what others have guessed.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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1220 is a pair of plow share tongs. They hold both ends of the share
at the same time. I have a pair that are almost identical. They make
the share (shear) much easier to hold under the power hammer when
sharpening.
Pete Stanaitis
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R.H. wrote:
> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
>
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
RicodJour wrote:
> On Feb 9, 9:31 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks to Edward for solving this item for us, it's a Japanese brush and ink
>> holder, as seen on the site below:
>>
>> http://www.stutler.cc/pens/yatate/index.html
>>
>> Since several people did guess paint pot and ink holder, I was planning to
>> add those guesses to my answer page until the owner told me that the inside
>> and lid was covered with soot. So it looks like someone threw us a curve
>> ball by burning something in the ink holder.
>
> The dried black ink would look exactly like soot and would scrape off
> the same way. You can tell the difference by adding a little water to
> the residue and rubbing it between your fingers.
>
> R
>
A Japanese soldier probably left it in the Aleutians.
The group in possession of it seems to be tipplers. When they break a
glass, they call the shards art.
After a year, a couple of them decided it was a whale-oil lamp. To
demonstrate, they used a plumber's pipe cap as a small metal bowl,
stuffed in some hairs from a beard, added gas-line de-icer (presumably
methanol), lit it, and stared at the nearly invisible flame as they
continued to drink.
I'll bet the wad in the artifact isn't steel wool.
1215 Apologies... Clearly this is a jack for lifting tuckers.
1216 This is a movie film can. While, at the start of a movie run, the
projectionist has to schlep the cans up to the projection booth, when the
movie run is over, and the film is to be returned, it is not that rare that
the cans manage to roll down the stairs. The cans are made rugged, and
fire-proof.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One clue for this set, the patent date marked on the first object is
> incorrect.
>
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob