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foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard)

28/10/2004 1:54 PM

NEWBIE QUESTION

Greetings to the group.

I actually sent this before but it never appeared so I'll try again.

I had a heart attack in March and during the recuperation I started
woodworking on a semi-serious basis. I learn as I go and I'm not too
unhappy with some of the things I've managed.

(I've found out one interesting thing about myself - I can't actually
plan out anything I make! I can only visualize it in my head and then
go one step at a time and design on the fly! I've become a firm
adherant to the amateur woodworkers' motto: "Cut to shape - Pound to
fit!")

But I have a continuing problem I can't solve.

Can anyone recommend a sealer/stain/paint/varnish/shellac/whatever
that can be used on the INTERIOR of wooden containers made to hold
food? (Like cannisters, bread bins, larders, etc.) It should be a
hard gloss finish (for easy cleaning) and has to be completely
odor-free and non-toxic so no taste or odor transfers to the food
inside.

Is lining the item with plastic or something similar the only answer?

Many thanx for any advice.

FoggyTown


This topic has 14 replies

FJ

"Frank J. Vitale"

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

29/10/2004 12:48 PM

Check catalogs for salad bowel finish. I think it is made by Behlan.

There have been articles saying that polyurethane finishes are safe if you
let them cure for awhile.

You might try a Goggle search.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

29/10/2004 6:21 AM


"Old Nick" wrote in message

> And here we go painting the insides of our food containers with
> bugshit! <G>

Hell, you eat the sexual organs of plants every time you have a plate of
vegetables. Think about that next time you have boiled okra. ;>)

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Last update: 10/04/04

cC

charliediy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self)

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

28/10/2004 9:36 PM

foggytown asks:

>But I have a continuing problem I can't solve.
>
>Can anyone recommend a sealer/stain/paint/varnish/shellac/whatever
>that can be used on the INTERIOR of wooden containers made to hold
>food? (Like cannisters, bread bins, larders, etc.) It should be a
>hard gloss finish (for easy cleaning) and has to be completely
>odor-free and non-toxic so no taste or odor transfers to the food
>inside.
>
>Is lining the item with plastic or something similar the only answer?

For the most part, it pays to line wooden food containers with a flavor free
wood, yellow poplar, basswood, sycamore, popple (cottonwood), etc.

Even that will get smelly if food is left sitting inside too long, but usually
a wipedown and a day or two food free with some baking soda inside will clear
things up.

Otherwise, plastic or glass liners do work.

Charlie Self
"When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not
hereditary." Thomas Paine

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

28/10/2004 4:05 PM

In article <C7WdnS0YUe1n9RzcRVn-pA@giganews.com>, kac@nospam.com says...
> "Mike Girouard" wrote in message
>
> > Can anyone recommend a sealer/stain/paint/varnish/shellac/whatever
>
> Shellac, properly applied, is traditional and one of the best solutions. It
> is definitely food safe, easily repaired if necessary, safe to apply, and
> readily available. Zinser's Bullseye is in a can on the shelf at most supply
> stores/BORGs and is not a bad choice for the application.
>
I finally found and tried some of their new Sealcoat product - 2 pound
cut, dewaxed. It's great.

--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

28/10/2004 4:47 PM

"Mike Girouard" wrote in message

> Can anyone recommend a sealer/stain/paint/varnish/shellac/whatever

Shellac, properly applied, is traditional and one of the best solutions. It
is definitely food safe, easily repaired if necessary, safe to apply, and
readily available. Zinser's Bullseye is in a can on the shelf at most supply
stores/BORGs and is not a bad choice for the application.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/04/04

jj

jo4hn

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

29/10/2004 2:53 PM

Frank J. Vitale wrote:
> Check catalogs for salad bowel finish. I think it is made by Behlan.
>
[snip]
I guess that should be punctuated with a colon. Made me laugh.
mahalo,
jo4hn

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

29/10/2004 7:35 AM


"Mike Girouard" wrote in message

> Now is it best that the shellac be applied to the bare wood or can I
> stain the wood with the color I want first then apply a clear varnish.

Shellac can be applied over stain.

http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/shellac.htm

http://www.shellac.net/

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Last update: 10/04/04

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

29/10/2004 10:27 AM

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:19:05 +0800, Old Nick <nsnsafemail@dodo.com.au>
wrote:

>And here we go painting the insides of our food containers with
>bugshit! <G>

Relax.

Fancy an M&M ?

cC

charliediy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self)

in reply to Andy Dingley on 29/10/2004 10:27 AM

29/10/2004 11:24 AM

Andy Dingley responds:

>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:19:05 +0800, Old Nick <nsnsafemail@dodo.com.au>
>wrote:
>
>>And here we go painting the insides of our food containers with
>>bugshit! <G>
>
>Relax.
>
>Fancy an M&M

And he can have a Tylenol for his headache, while popping some kind of stomach
pill for the turmoil that's undergoing.

But I think it's bug spit, not bug shit. Bug shit is what politicians have for
brains.

Charlie Self
"When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not
hereditary." Thomas Paine

fM

foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard)

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

29/10/2004 4:57 AM

Old Nick <nsnsafemail@dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:<f2o3o05d1s26b27ft9u25mmv9e2ue8i8kk@4ax.com>...
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:47:37 -0500, "Swingman" <kac@nospam.com>
> vaguely proposed a theory
> ......and in reply I say!:
>
> remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>
> And here we go painting the insides of our food containers with
> bugshit! <G>
>

As if the stuff we eat doesn't already contain the USFDA recommended
maximum of bugshit.

Now is it best that the shellac be applied to the bare wood or can I
stain the wood with the color I want first then apply a clear varnish.

Thanx

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

29/10/2004 3:43 PM

>
> And here we go painting the insides of our food containers with
> bugshit! <G>

That's bug *SNOT*

ON

Old Nick

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

29/10/2004 2:19 PM

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:47:37 -0500, "Swingman" <kac@nospam.com>
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

And here we go painting the insides of our food containers with
bugshit! <G>

>"Mike Girouard" wrote in message
>
>> Can anyone recommend a sealer/stain/paint/varnish/shellac/whatever
>
>Shellac, properly applied, is traditional and one of the best solutions. It
>is definitely food safe, easily repaired if necessary, safe to apply, and
>readily available. Zinser's Bullseye is in a can on the shelf at most supply
>stores/BORGs and is not a bad choice for the application.

*****************************************************
Have you noticed that people always run from what
they _need_ toward what they want?????

DD

David

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

28/10/2004 1:56 PM

Shellac

David

Mike Girouard wrote:

> Greetings to the group.
>
> I actually sent this before but it never appeared so I'll try again.
>
> I had a heart attack in March and during the recuperation I started
> woodworking on a semi-serious basis. I learn as I go and I'm not too
> unhappy with some of the things I've managed.
>
> (I've found out one interesting thing about myself - I can't actually
> plan out anything I make! I can only visualize it in my head and then
> go one step at a time and design on the fly! I've become a firm
> adherant to the amateur woodworkers' motto: "Cut to shape - Pound to
> fit!")
>
> But I have a continuing problem I can't solve.
>
> Can anyone recommend a sealer/stain/paint/varnish/shellac/whatever
> that can be used on the INTERIOR of wooden containers made to hold
> food? (Like cannisters, bread bins, larders, etc.) It should be a
> hard gloss finish (for easy cleaning) and has to be completely
> odor-free and non-toxic so no taste or odor transfers to the food
> inside.
>
> Is lining the item with plastic or something similar the only answer?
>
> Many thanx for any advice.
>
> FoggyTown

md

mac davis

in reply to foggytown@aol.com (Mike Girouard) on 28/10/2004 1:54 PM

29/10/2004 1:52 AM

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:05:55 -0700, Larry Blanchard
<lblanch@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>--
>Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?


In Tom Plamann's shop??


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