I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
The NL will go only to subscribers who provide an email address. I might
later ask for a zip code in order to class markets for advertisers, but
probably not.
No spam.
No flash.
Tips may be long or short, depending on available time, my mood and, after a
bit, requests. I may eventually also include responses from readers.
If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine, as
it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML document
with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test, aimed at
quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope, useful.
If it interests you and you don't want to respond online, try me at
charlieself at charlieselfonline.com.
--
Charlie Self
Writer/Photographer
www.charlieselfonline.com
alexy wrote:
> "Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
> >mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
> >
> >A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
> >interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
> >or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
> <snip>
>
> What's not to like?
>
> I think you need a stated privacy policy, promising not to sell the
> emails or use them for purposes other than the newsletter.
>
> Sounds good to me!
> --
> Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.
Having worked on an NL in the field, I know what even the suspicion of
messing with privacy can do. Thus, my privacy policy will be simple:
email addresses of those who joint are for newsletter use only, never
sold, given, traded or otherwise compromised.
I can probably do enough to irritate half my readers within the first
year that I won't need to mess with other things to lose subscribers.
alexy wrote:
> "Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
> >mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
> >
> >A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
> >interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
> >or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
> <snip>
>
> What's not to like?
>
> I think you need a stated privacy policy, promising not to sell the
> emails or use them for purposes other than the newsletter.
>
> Sounds good to me!
> --
> Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.
Having worked on an NL in the field, I know what even the suspicion of
messing with privacy can do. Thus, my privacy policy will be simple:
email addresses of those who joint are for newsletter use only, never
sold, given, traded or otherwise compromised.
I can probably do enough to irritate half my readers within the first
year that I won't need to mess with other things to lose subscribers.
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Charles Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The one email handler I'm looking at most seriously claims the HTML
> > automatically switches over to plain text. Dunno if that's true, and
> > probably won't know for a minimum of six or seven weeks.
>
> If you're going to use HTML as the delivery vehicle I seriously
> recommend posting a web page and then emailing a link, like
> augusthome.com does.
>
> You'll cut your bandwidth requirement way down, and be able to attract
> a larger audience, which means an improved ability to attract
> advertisers.
>
> I think your concept is great, but that you're considering the wrong
> delivery vehicle.
>
> HTML is for web browsers, not email proggies. Email me a link to a web
> page, not 500k of HTML and images!
>
How about: www.charlieselfonline.com?
Greg G. wrote:
> Dave Balderstone said:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >Charles Self <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> The one email handler I'm looking at most seriously claims the HTML
> >> automatically switches over to plain text. Dunno if that's true, and
> >> probably won't know for a minimum of six or seven weeks.
> >
> >If you're going to use HTML as the delivery vehicle I seriously
> >recommend posting a web page and then emailing a link, like
> >augusthome.com does.
> >
> >You'll cut your bandwidth requirement way down, and be able to attract
> >a larger audience, which means an improved ability to attract
> >advertisers.
> >
> >I think your concept is great, but that you're considering the wrong
> >delivery vehicle.
> >
> >HTML is for web browsers, not email proggies. Email me a link to a web
> >page, not 500k of HTML and images!
>
> Or at worst, a PDF - preferably downloadable by a link in the email.
OK. That is even easier, I think. I can upload the PDF to my web site,
maybe, and then link to a para in the email NL, which could then remain
about a long paragraph. The fact is, I don't intend any one NL to be
large, something on the order of maybe two to three 8-1/2 x 11 pages,
including no more than six photos, depending on the complexity of the
tip. The tool review should be fairly fast and simple as long as I can
hold to doing an individual tool per review.
Charles Self wrote:
> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
> mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
> or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
>
[snip]
Sounds good. I'll even contribute to the Handyman's Club section.
spaz,
jo4hn
In article <[email protected]>,
Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:54:53 -0600, Dave Balderstone
><dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>> If you're going to use HTML as the delivery vehicle I seriously
>> recommend posting a web page and then emailing a link, like
>> augusthome.com does.
>
>I agree wholeheartedly. Too many variables in email rendering of HTML;
>it never looks good, it often gets (rightly) filtered out by spam-bots,
>and it's really trying to force something to be what it's not.
>
>> You'll cut your bandwidth requirement way down, and be able to attract
>> a larger audience, which means an improved ability to attract
>> advertisers.
>
>Agreed. Also, with any web statistics program, it will let you know
>just how many people are reading how much of what parts of your
>newsletter, how they got there, where they went, how long they stayed,
>and so on. No way to measure that client-side.
>
>> I think your concept is great, but that you're considering the wrong
>> delivery vehicle.
>
>I'd tend to agree.
>
>> HTML is for web browsers, not email proggies. Email me a link to a web
>> page, not 500k of HTML and images!
>
>On that, I definately agree. Although, Dave, the images would
>probably be tags to a webserver anyway, so the mail itself should be
>small.
But _that_ is the 'reference implementation' of virus-spreading e-mails.
Many modern browsers will -not-, when processing HTML mail, open links to an
'external to the message' reference.
Charlie, at a minimum, you need to give people an *option* for
HTML mail vs 'plain ASCII'.
And, truthfully, if you want _real _control over the layout, you'd be
best off creating a .pdf and sending _that_.
In article <[email protected]>,
Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:04:27 -0000, Robert Bonomi
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>On that, I definately agree. Although, Dave, the images would
>>>probably be tags to a webserver anyway, so the mail itself should be
>>>small.
>
>> But _that_ is the 'reference implementation' of virus-spreading e-mails.
>
>I didn't know they had managed to build viruses into images yet.
Call it an 'image', even name it with the extension for a recognized image
format. make the _acutal_ content of the file a MS-executable.
Windows is _so_dumb_, that it looks at the file 'type' (based on extension)
to figure out whether or not to automatically 'execute' the file, and then
*ignores* the extension, and looks at the actual content to determine *how*
to execute it.
Furthermore, there *are* exploits of defective code in the MS 'jpeg' decoder.
which allow you to embed malicious *code* into the 'data' of a properly-
constructed .JPG file, and it _will_ be executed.
>> Many modern browsers will -not-, when processing HTML mail, open links to an
>> 'external to the message' reference.
>
>Well, it's not a link, it's a tagged object, but either way, email is
>the way not to do it for a host of reasons.
I won't debate terminology. "<a href={something}>text description</a>"
>> Charlie, at a minimum, you need to give people an *option* for
>> HTML mail vs 'plain ASCII'.
>
>Absolutely.
>
I'd like to try that, if you will.
Tom Cavanagh
"Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've
> been mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
> or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
>
> The NL will go only to subscribers who provide an email address. I might
> later ask for a zip code in order to class markets for advertisers, but
> probably not.
>
> No spam.
>
> No flash.
>
> Tips may be long or short, depending on available time, my mood and, after
> a bit, requests. I may eventually also include responses from readers.
>
> If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
> start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine,
> as it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML
> document with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test,
> aimed at quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope,
> useful.
>
> If it interests you and you don't want to respond online, try me at
> charlieself at charlieselfonline.com.
> --
> Charlie Self
> Writer/Photographer
> www.charlieselfonline.com
>
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:44:12 GMT, "Charles Self"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
>mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
>A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
>interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
>or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
>
>The NL will go only to subscribers who provide an email address. I might
>later ask for a zip code in order to class markets for advertisers, but
>probably not.
>
>No spam.
>
>No flash.
>
>Tips may be long or short, depending on available time, my mood and, after a
>bit, requests. I may eventually also include responses from readers.
>
>If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
>start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine, as
>it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML document
>with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test, aimed at
>quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope, useful.
>
>If it interests you and you don't want to respond online, try me at
>charlieself at charlieselfonline.com.
It sounds like fun, Charlie.
Count me in.
Good luck with it.
Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)
In article <[email protected]>,
Charles Self <[email protected]> wrote:
> If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
> start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine, as
> it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML document
> with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test, aimed at
> quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope, useful.
I wish you well, but HTML email here is filtered directly to /dev/null/
so unless you're envisioning it as a web page with an emailed URL, I'll
pass.
djb
--
The moral difference between a soldier and a civilian is that the soldier
accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic of which he
is a member. The civilian does not. Robert A. Heinlein
In article <[email protected]>,
Charles Self <[email protected]> wrote:
> The one email handler I'm looking at most seriously claims the HTML
> automatically switches over to plain text. Dunno if that's true, and
> probably won't know for a minimum of six or seven weeks.
If you're going to use HTML as the delivery vehicle I seriously
recommend posting a web page and then emailing a link, like
augusthome.com does.
You'll cut your bandwidth requirement way down, and be able to attract
a larger audience, which means an improved ability to attract
advertisers.
I think your concept is great, but that you're considering the wrong
delivery vehicle.
HTML is for web browsers, not email proggies. Email me a link to a web
page, not 500k of HTML and images!
djb
--
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech. It is
the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose
coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." --
Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, Sergeant, USMC
In article <[email protected]>, Dave Hinz
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On that, I definately agree. Although, Dave, the images would
> probably be tags to a webserver anyway, so the mail itself should be
> small.
Yes, you're right. In fact, if there's advertising involved, they'd
pretty much have to be in order to provide some measurement to the
advertiser.
Your point about about web stats is also well taken.
--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows
In article <[email protected]>, Greg G.
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Or at worst, a PDF - preferably downloadable by a link in the email.
I hate PDF as a delivery vehicle. I'd rather pay to get a printed copy,
'cause I end up printing the frigging thing anyway.
djb
--
The moral difference between a soldier and a civilian is that the soldier
accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic of which he
is a member. The civilian does not. Robert A. Heinlein
Dave Hinz said:
>On 21 Dec 2005 13:29:31 -0800, Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> How about: www.charlieselfonline.com?
>
>I've got a webhosting reseller account if you want a domain hosted.
>It's a coop deal, I make no money on it (to say the least).
>
>Dave
Dave... I believe he already HAS a domain... ;-)
Greg G.
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:54:53 -0600, Dave Balderstone <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote:
> If you're going to use HTML as the delivery vehicle I seriously
> recommend posting a web page and then emailing a link, like
> augusthome.com does.
I agree wholeheartedly. Too many variables in email rendering of HTML;
it never looks good, it often gets (rightly) filtered out by spam-bots,
and it's really trying to force something to be what it's not.
> You'll cut your bandwidth requirement way down, and be able to attract
> a larger audience, which means an improved ability to attract
> advertisers.
Agreed. Also, with any web statistics program, it will let you know
just how many people are reading how much of what parts of your
newsletter, how they got there, where they went, how long they stayed,
and so on. No way to measure that client-side.
> I think your concept is great, but that you're considering the wrong
> delivery vehicle.
I'd tend to agree.
> HTML is for web browsers, not email proggies. Email me a link to a web
> page, not 500k of HTML and images!
On that, I definately agree. Although, Dave, the images would
probably be tags to a webserver anyway, so the mail itself should be
small.
Dave Hinz
On 21 Dec 2005 13:29:31 -0800, Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> HTML is for web browsers, not email proggies. Email me a link to a web
>> page, not 500k of HTML and images!
> How about: www.charlieselfonline.com?
I've got a webhosting reseller account if you want a domain hosted.
It's a coop deal, I make no money on it (to say the least).
Dave
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:04:27 -0000, Robert Bonomi <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On that, I definately agree. Although, Dave, the images would
>>probably be tags to a webserver anyway, so the mail itself should be
>>small.
> But _that_ is the 'reference implementation' of virus-spreading e-mails.
I didn't know they had managed to build viruses into images yet.
> Many modern browsers will -not-, when processing HTML mail, open links to an
> 'external to the message' reference.
Well, it's not a link, it's a tagged object, but either way, email is
the way not to do it for a host of reasons.
> Charlie, at a minimum, you need to give people an *option* for
> HTML mail vs 'plain ASCII'.
Absolutely.
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:09:37 -0000, Robert Bonomi <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I didn't know they had managed to build viruses into images yet.
> Call it an 'image', even name it with the extension for a recognized image
> format. make the _acutal_ content of the file a MS-executable.
Ah yes, that little joyful thing.
> Windows is _so_dumb_, that it looks at the file 'type' (based on extension)
> to figure out whether or not to automatically 'execute' the file, and then
> *ignores* the extension, and looks at the actual content to determine *how*
> to execute it.
Yes it does. That can get really frustrating if you have two .'s in the
filename.
> Furthermore, there *are* exploits of defective code in the MS 'jpeg' decoder.
> which allow you to embed malicious *code* into the 'data' of a properly-
> constructed .JPG file, and it _will_ be executed.
I thought they fixed that? But yeah, I remember that now.
>>Well, it's not a link, it's a tagged object, but either way, email is
>>the way not to do it for a host of reasons.
> I won't debate terminology. "<a href={something}>text description</a>"
I wasn't trying to play word games, I assure you. so yeah, that's a
tag, not a link as in "click here". They're handled differently,
otherwise I wouldn't have made the distinction.
"Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote:
>If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
>start setting up.
Sign me up.
Ken Muldrew
[email protected]
(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)
"Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
>mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
>A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
>interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
>or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
<snip>
What's not to like?
I think you need a stated privacy policy, promising not to sell the
emails or use them for purposes other than the newsletter.
Sounds good to me!
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.
Sounds great to me! Gerry
"Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've
> been mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
> or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
>
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:211220051221448411%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Charles Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
>> start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine,
>> as
>> it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML
>> document
>> with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test, aimed at
>> quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope, useful.
>
> I wish you well, but HTML email here is filtered directly to /dev/null/
> so unless you're envisioning it as a web page with an emailed URL, I'll
> pass.
>
The one email handler I'm looking at most seriously claims the HTML
automatically switches over to plain text. Dunno if that's true, and
probably won't know for a minimum of six or seven weeks.
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Charles Self wrote:
>
>> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've
>> been mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>>
>> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
>> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a
>> tip or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not
>> groups.
Latest in hammers, claw type, one each?
"Rick M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Charles Self" wrote
>
>> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've
> been
>> mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>>
>> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
>> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a
>> tip
>> or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not
>> groups.
>
> [snip]
>
> I'm all for that Charlie. I'll send a private message with my e-mail
> address
> ... but wanted to publicly support your efforts.
>
> I appreciate you sharing your years of experience as a woodworker,
> photographer and writer. While I don't always see things the way you do
> ...
> I look forward to seeing what's on your mind.
>
I'd be upset if there was only MY way of looking at things. I've been wrong
too often...
"Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've
> been mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
<snip>
Sign me up Charlie!
Tom
"Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies,
> I'll start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which
> is fine, as it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a
> simple HTML document with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page
> or so of test, aimed at quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy,
> but, I hope, useful.
>
> If it interests you and you don't want to respond online, try me at
> charlieself at charlieselfonline.com.
> --
> Charlie Self
> Writer/Photographer
>
Charlie,
I'd be interested in this.
--
Regards,
JT
Speaking only for myself....
alexy wrote:
> "Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
>> mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>>
>> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
>> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
>> or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
> <snip>
>
> What's not to like?
>
> I think you need a stated privacy policy, promising not to sell the
> emails or use them for purposes other than the newsletter.
Ditto.
"Charles Self" wrote
> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've
been
> mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
> or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
[snip]
I'm all for that Charlie. I'll send a private message with my e-mail address
... but wanted to publicly support your efforts.
I appreciate you sharing your years of experience as a woodworker,
photographer and writer. While I don't always see things the way you do ...
I look forward to seeing what's on your mind.
Regards,
Rick
Dave Balderstone said:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Charles Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The one email handler I'm looking at most seriously claims the HTML
>> automatically switches over to plain text. Dunno if that's true, and
>> probably won't know for a minimum of six or seven weeks.
>
>If you're going to use HTML as the delivery vehicle I seriously
>recommend posting a web page and then emailing a link, like
>augusthome.com does.
>
>You'll cut your bandwidth requirement way down, and be able to attract
>a larger audience, which means an improved ability to attract
>advertisers.
>
>I think your concept is great, but that you're considering the wrong
>delivery vehicle.
>
>HTML is for web browsers, not email proggies. Email me a link to a web
>page, not 500k of HTML and images!
Or at worst, a PDF - preferably downloadable by a link in the email.
Greg G.
Put it up...they will come(to coin a really hokey line) as will
I.
Charles Self wrote:
> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
> mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
> or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:44:12 GMT, "Charles Self"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
>mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
>A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
>interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
>or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
>
>The NL will go only to subscribers who provide an email address. I might
>later ask for a zip code in order to class markets for advertisers, but
>probably not.
>
>No spam.
>
>No flash.
>
>Tips may be long or short, depending on available time, my mood and, after a
>bit, requests. I may eventually also include responses from readers.
>
>If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
>start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine, as
>it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML document
>with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test, aimed at
>quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope, useful.
>
>If it interests you and you don't want to respond online, try me at
>charlieself at charlieselfonline.com.
works for me charles. sign me up! fartntouchit at hotmail.com.
skeez
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That sounds good to me Charlie. Ads would not bother me since you are
> providing a service.
>
>
> "Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've
>> been mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>>
>> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
>> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a
>> tip or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not
>> groups.
>>
>> The NL will go only to subscribers who provide an email address. I might
>> later ask for a zip code in order to class markets for advertisers, but
>> probably not.
>>
>> No spam.
>>
>> No flash.
>>
>> Tips may be long or short, depending on available time, my mood and,
>> after a bit, requests. I may eventually also include responses from
>> readers.
>>
>> If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
>> start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine,
>> as it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML
>> document with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test,
>> aimed at quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope,
>> useful.
>>
>> If it interests you and you don't want to respond online, try me at
>> charlieself at charlieselfonline.com.
>> --
>> Charlie Self
>> Writer/Photographer
>> www.charlieselfonline.com
Yes, well I've listened to the complaints--read, actually--about too many
ads in the magazines, but that's usually on top of a now hefty subscription
cost. Since the NL will be free, the ads should be less bothersome. I've got
to work out a way to make them visible and useful to the advertisers without
them being overly intrusive to the readers.
I figure it will take me about three to four months to put this together,
along with getting enough material stashed to make it workable and
worthwhile for six months beyond its start.
There's no problem with getting fresh tool tests, but I want the tips to be
up-to-date and not something seen in sixteen books or magazines in the last
six months, too.
The NL is going to require more organization than I've ever had to use
before. But it should be useful.
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK Charlie, the Woodworking Gods voted on it. Sign us up.
>
I appreciate it. While those who are emailing privately are about it, please
lose the yahoo.com email address. It doesn't seem to like me, lots of run
time errors, and it won't let me forward emails to a more sensible spot. Try
crself at aoldotcom or russtreflex at aoldotcom
My spam filters will probably catch you, but then I'll catch the spam
filters.
Thanks again, JOAT and all of ya.
Wed, Dec 21, 2005, 6:38pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(Charles=A0Self) doth say:
I appreciate it. <snip>
No prob. The Woodworking Gods say you can even deter your
sactifice for a year.
JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
"know"?.
- Granny Weatherwax
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:03:29 -0500, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>Wed, Dec 21, 2005, 6:38pm (EST+5) [email protected]
>(Charles Self) doth say:
>I appreciate it. <snip>
>
> No prob. The Woodworking Gods say you can even deter your
>sactifice for a year.
>
Would think that the fact it was going to become a sacrificw would be
plenty deterrent. ;-)
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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
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That sounds good to me Charlie. Ads would not bother me since you are
providing a service.
"Charles Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've
> been mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
> or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
>
> The NL will go only to subscribers who provide an email address. I might
> later ask for a zip code in order to class markets for advertisers, but
> probably not.
>
> No spam.
>
> No flash.
>
> Tips may be long or short, depending on available time, my mood and, after
> a bit, requests. I may eventually also include responses from readers.
>
> If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
> start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine,
> as it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML
> document with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test,
> aimed at quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope,
> useful.
>
> If it interests you and you don't want to respond online, try me at
> charlieself at charlieselfonline.com.
> --
> Charlie Self
> Writer/Photographer
> www.charlieselfonline.com
>
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:44:12 GMT, "Charles Self"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've been
>mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
>A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
>interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
>or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
>
>The NL will go only to subscribers who provide an email address. I might
>later ask for a zip code in order to class markets for advertisers, but
>probably not.
>
>No spam.
>
>No flash.
>
>Tips may be long or short, depending on available time, my mood and, after a
>bit, requests. I may eventually also include responses from readers.
>
>If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
>start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine, as
>it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML document
>with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test, aimed at
>quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope, useful.
>
Sounds like an interesting idea. Ads shouldn't be an issue, most people
recognize that it costs money to produce something -- if you can get ad
revenue to pay for it rather than making it subscriber supported,that's a
good thing.
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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
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On 23 Dec 2005 17:18:49 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Windows is _so_dumb_, that it looks at the file 'type' (based on extension)
>> to figure out whether or not to automatically 'execute' the file, and then
>> *ignores* the extension, and looks at the actual content to determine *how*
>> to execute it.
>
>Yes it does. That can get really frustrating if you have two .'s in the
>filename.
Nonsense; Windows parses the filename from the end backwards to
determine the extension. I can easily have a file called
this.is.a.picture.of.my.nephew.jpg and Windows knows how to launch the
file viewer.
If you're gonna bash Windows for some file system issue, at least
double check your facts.
Matt
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Charles Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>The one email handler I'm looking at most seriously claims the HTML
>>automatically switches over to plain text. Dunno if that's true, and
>>probably won't know for a minimum of six or seven weeks.
>
>
> If you're going to use HTML as the delivery vehicle I seriously
> recommend posting a web page and then emailing a link, like
> augusthome.com does.
>
> You'll cut your bandwidth requirement way down, and be able to attract
> a larger audience, which means an improved ability to attract
> advertisers.
>
> I think your concept is great, but that you're considering the wrong
> delivery vehicle.
>
> HTML is for web browsers, not email proggies. Email me a link to a web
> page, not 500k of HTML and images!
>
> djb
>
Agree wholeheartedly. Put HTML version on your website and text version
in email. Even text mail can support some level of ad sponsorship.
You've probably already thought of this as well, but use some robust
mailing list software (MailMan, MajorDomo, with instruction added at the
bottom of each NL) so subscribers can self-manage their subscription. It
won't get you completely away from "Please unsubscribe me" messages, but
it will help. BTW, sign me up.
~Mark.
Charles Self wrote:
> I'm kind of trolling--in the sense of asking for bites--on an idea I've
> been mulling since I was able to get a web site up and mostly operative.
>
> A weekly newsletter, free to readers (will eventually have some ads from
> interested companies, as the online things are not free to me), with a tip
> or two each week, along with one tool review--individual tool, not groups.
>
> The NL will go only to subscribers who provide an email address. I might
> later ask for a zip code in order to class markets for advertisers, but
> probably not.
>
> No spam.
>
> No flash.
>
> Tips may be long or short, depending on available time, my mood and, after
> a bit, requests. I may eventually also include responses from readers.
>
> If there's enough interest, both from readers and various companies, I'll
> start setting up. If not, not. I anticipate a lot of work, which is fine,
> as it's work I enjoy, but you'd basically be looking at a simple HTML
> document with no more than half a dozen photos, and a page or so of test,
> aimed at quick, informative readability. Nothing fancy, but, I hope,
> useful.
>
> If it interests you and you don't want to respond online, try me at
> charlieself at charlieselfonline.com.
In the words of NIKE! JUST DO IT!
Rich
--
"you can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"