lay them so that they warp with the center up. This will do a couple of
things:
1) shed water instead of holding it
2) make for a smoother deck. If you lay them cup side up, the edges will
stick up, and you'll have lots of little ridges. Cup side down gives you a
"hilly" surface, but its alot easier to walk on, and less trip prone.
--JD
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Do you put the old wood up, or down? Old wood down would tend to cup
> on the surface due to warpage, but old wood up can lead to shelling.
> Quartersawn decking? Sounds expensive.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> JP
>
Wood Butcher wrote:
> Old wood up so the cup is on the bottom. This puts the
> crown up and it will shed water. Otherwise the cup will
> hold the water which is worse. I have both on my deck
> as I bought milled boards with rounded edges and 3
> grooves on the bottom and didn't have any choice in how
> to lay them. I know better now.
Yeah - I agree. But I thought I read somewhere (Understanding Wood)
that they said you should put them the other way. Plus, some show on
HGTV had a couple of "expert" carpenters say you should put the old
wood down - so that it would shed water! I see a lot of bad or just
plain wrong woodworking/carpentry information on tv these days. DIY is
the worst.
JP
> Art
>
> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Do you put the old wood up, or down? Old wood down would tend to cup
> > on the surface due to warpage, but old wood up can lead to shelling.
> > Quartersawn decking? Sounds expensive.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > JP
> >
Locutus wrote:
> "Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > If you MUST fastnen from the top, use square drive
> > stainless steel screws.
> >
>
> Do the sqaures in the heads help the screws stay in better?
Nope. They're just less likely to cam out and make driving the screws
easier.
R
"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Use a under the board fastening system and don't worry
> about any of that. I used Deckmaster but there are others.
> You will end up with a MUCH nicer looking deck that will
> last a few years longer. Fastner failure is the biggest
> cause of deck failure.
>
> If you MUST fastnen from the top, use square drive
> stainless steel screws.
>
>
Do the sqaures in the heads help the screws stay in better?
"Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Old wood up so the cup is on the bottom. This puts the
> crown up and it will shed water. Otherwise the cup will
> hold the water which is worse. I have both on my deck
> as I bought milled boards with rounded edges and 3
> grooves on the bottom and didn't have any choice in how
> to lay them. I know better now.
>
> Art
>
> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Do you put the old wood up, or down? Old wood down would tend to cup
>> on the surface due to warpage, but old wood up can lead to shelling.
>> Quartersawn decking? Sounds expensive.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> JP
>>
>
You mean old wood down so the cup is on the bottom.
In other words, center of tree down
Or Quarter sawn, yikes.
Like this
/^\
/^\
Tried some square drive stainless deck screws here a while ago. No, didn't
cam out, just stripped in place.
"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No..the square drive is for your benefit. They are MUCH easier
> to drive. The stainless is for longevity.
>
>
> Locutus wrote:
>
>
> > Do the sqaures in the heads help the screws stay in better?
> >
> >
Use a under the board fastening system and don't worry
about any of that. I used Deckmaster but there are others.
You will end up with a MUCH nicer looking deck that will
last a few years longer. Fastner failure is the biggest
cause of deck failure.
If you MUST fastnen from the top, use square drive
stainless steel screws.
Jay Pique wrote:
> Do you put the old wood up, or down? Old wood down would tend to cup
> on the surface due to warpage, but old wood up can lead to shelling.
> Quartersawn decking? Sounds expensive.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> JP
>
Old wood up so the cup is on the bottom. This puts the
crown up and it will shed water. Otherwise the cup will
hold the water which is worse. I have both on my deck
as I bought milled boards with rounded edges and 3
grooves on the bottom and didn't have any choice in how
to lay them. I know better now.
Art
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Do you put the old wood up, or down? Old wood down would tend to cup
> on the surface due to warpage, but old wood up can lead to shelling.
> Quartersawn decking? Sounds expensive.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> JP
>