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Rob H.

23/01/2014 1:26 AM

What is it? Set 529

I need some help with 3088 and 3090 in this week's set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Larger images:

http://imgur.com/a/ao69Y


Rob


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Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 10:26 AM

On 23 Jan 2014 01:26:53 -0800, Rob H. wrote:

> I need some help with 3088 and 3090 in this week's set:

If 3085 were a bit shorter, I'd say it's used with cake icing/frosting

3088. Picks up and serves wieners. ;-)

3089. Part of a defused land mine?

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Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 9:05 AM

On 1/23/2014 4:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3088 and 3090 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/ao69Y
>
>
> Rob
>
Posting from my desktop PC in the livign room as always.

3085, might be something from wool carding and sorting?
3086, might be for dissembling a faucet?
3087, first thought is "mitre saw". Looks like the
part that holds the saw keeps the edge parallel to the
work table. Not sure why.
3088, sampler for coffee beans?
3089, military land mine?
3090, totally no clue. As with the rest of em.

Great set, you really got me thinking.

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jj

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 7:21 PM


> http://55tools.blogspot.com/


3089 - Adjustable miter box ... it looks like there's mechanism to the right of the saw to hold down the stock. (The top of the saw's tote is broken off ..)

3089 - Anti-tank land mine

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Leon

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 10:04 AM

On 1/23/2014 8:05 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> On 1/23/2014 4:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with 3088 and 3090 in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/ao69Y
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> 3087, first thought is "mitre saw". Looks like the
> part that holds the saw keeps the edge parallel to the
> work table. Not sure why.


I think you are probably close. I suspect that it keeps the blade
parallel to the work surface as a coincidental result of the design.
I think the purpose is actually to keep the face of the blade
perpendicular to the work surface.

ALTHOUGH, as you said it may keep the cutting edge parallel with the
work surface so that you don't cut through the wood base and into the
metal structure.

Or "C" all of the above. ;~)

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Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 5:57 AM

3089 I have no idea what specific type of anti-tank landmine this is.


On 1/23/2014 4:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:

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Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 5:59 AM

3086 Looks like a crown cap crimper.

On 1/23/2014 4:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:

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"Robert"

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 7:16 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some help with 3088 and 3090 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/ao69Y
>
>
> Rob
>



3086 Bottle capper

3087 Miter Saw

3088 Wood lathe gouge with depth gage

3089 Land Mine

Robert

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"Paul K. Dickman"

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 8:58 AM

3085 is a stonemason's tool called a crandalling hammer.
It is used to put a textured surface on the face of a stone block.

Paul K. Dickman

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some help with 3088 and 3090 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/ao69Y
>
>
> Rob
>

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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 9:22 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>3089 I have no idea what specific type of anti-tank landmine this is.


Landmine is correct, I haven't found the specific type yet either.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 9:23 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>3086 Looks like a crown cap crimper.
>
>On 1/23/2014 4:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>

It's definitely a cap crimper but I'm not sure if it's for crown caps.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 9:25 AM


>3087 What's so mysterious about a miter saw?


The owner is looking for information on the upper part, such as patents,
manufacturer, value, etc.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 9:26 AM


>3085 is a stonemason's tool called a crandalling hammer.
>It is used to put a textured surface on the face of a stone block.


Crandall hammer is correct.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 9:29 AM


>3088 Wood lathe gouge with depth gage


I still don't have an answer for this one, the owner thought it might be for
removing large staples since that part on the bottom can be used as a fulcrum,
but that is just a guess.

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Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 12:48 PM

3088 - reminds me of a tool to be held in a vise to help apply a "
(heat) vulcanizing tire patch" (or similar).

Bill

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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 3:59 PM

>3090) Is there a notch in the claw as is common in woodworking
> hammers? Hard to be sure, given the angle of view.


Yes, I think there is a notch in it.



> Is the edge sharpened, or dull enough to grip and use it as a h
> normal hammer?


I'd say it's dull enough to grip, though the owner didn't specify. I think
someone just replaced a wood handle with this metal one. Probably not mass
produced, but I posted it to find out if anybody had seen one like this before.


> Why is the wrench for various sizes of square nuts or bolt heads
> in the second image? I would think that it would work for
> wagon style construction, and if it is in the same image,
> perhaps the "blade" of the handle is used to operate or adjust
> something in the wagon.


I guess the wrench is supposed to be for scale, not sure why it was included.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

24/01/2014 4:29 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>> 3089 I have no idea what specific type of anti-tank landmine this is.
>
>
> Landmine is correct, I haven't found the specific type yet either.
>

Yeah it's a strange fuse arrangement. Usually the fuse is separate and
screws in. Makes it safer and easier to carry.



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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

24/01/2014 1:37 PM

>From reading a description the owner posted on another site, I think the arm
>mechanism is designed to control the depth of the cut.


I just sent the owner an email asking his opinion on the purpose of the upper
mechanism, I'll post his answer when I receive it.


Not much luck yet on the mystery tools in this set, here are my answers for this
week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/01/set-529.html#answers


Rob

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

24/01/2014 5:32 PM

Someone found the patent for the miter box and saw holder, it can be seen here:

http://www.google.com/patents/US847557

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 10:51 PM

On 2014-01-23, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with 3088 and 3090 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/ao69Y

Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
always.

3085) Looks like a scaling hammer for chipping off welding scale.

I presume that the end of the handle has a way to loosen the
grip so the points can be removed, sharpened, and replaced, or
totally replaced when worn out. That loosening will also allow
the points on the other side to be aligned for use before having
to remove and re-sharpen the points on all of them.

3086) Well ... it certainly is a form of crimper.

I'm not sure about the diameter. It *looks* a little too big to
be used for crimping soft drink and old style beer bottle caps,
but otherwise it would work well for that. A bit old, however,
as something for food use would have to be of a different metal
(easier to clean) that this appears to be.

3087) Well ... first off, it is obviously a miter saw.

As for the mechanism -- it appears to be designed to keep the
blade from tilting as it goes down.

It is interesting that the vertical travel available is a lot
larger than the usable width of the blade, which suggests that
it is intended to make level cuts at whatever angle is set down
to a limited depth.

It appears to lock at the top of travel -- perhaps for putting
the new workpiece in place without a risk of scaring the
surface of the workpiece by dragging against the saw teeth. To
start cutting, you apparently pull the ring to unlock it and
allow it to descend onto the workpiece.

3088) If the end were a little sharper, I would think that it is a
wood turning gouge designed to make a round bottomed groove in
the workpiece, and a straight plunge to a specific depth
(stopped by the projection apparently silver-soldered onto the
bottom of the tool.) The sides would guide it once it reached
a certain depth.

It may actually have once been that sharp -- hard to tell from
the photos.

3089) This is *not* your friend once you pull the ring. :-)

It is a "mine" -- designed to be implanted by a vehicle which
plows up the ground, plants the mines every so often, and then
closes the sod down on the mine -- leaving little sign of the
disturbed sod. As it departs, it pulls the pin by the ring.
The vertical projections are probably what triggers it.

3090) Is there a notch in the claw as is common in woodworking
hammers? Hard to be sure, given the angle of view.

Is the edge sharpened, or dull enough to grip and use it as a h
normal hammer?

Why is the wrench for various sizes of square nuts or bolt heads
in the second image? I would think that it would work for
wagon style construction, and if it is in the same image,
perhaps the "blade" of the handle is used to operate or adjust
something in the wagon.

Now to post and see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 23/01/2014 1:26 AM

23/01/2014 11:06 PM

On 2014-01-23, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> On 1/23/2014 8:05 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> On 1/23/2014 4:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> I need some help with 3088 and 3090 in this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Larger images:
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/a/ao69Y
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>> 3087, first thought is "mitre saw". Looks like the
>> part that holds the saw keeps the edge parallel to the
>> work table. Not sure why.
>
>
> I think you are probably close. I suspect that it keeps the blade
> parallel to the work surface as a coincidental result of the design.
> I think the purpose is actually to keep the face of the blade
> perpendicular to the work surface.

Much simpler mitre boxes do that part quite well.

> ALTHOUGH, as you said it may keep the cutting edge parallel with the
> work surface so that you don't cut through the wood base and into the
> metal structure.

That seems to be most of the purpose of the mechanism.

> Or "C" all of the above. ;~)


C1) If the slot in the back fence were wider, I could speculate a
mechanism on the back (not shown clearly) to allow the cut to be
at a compound angle, but that seems to not be the case.

C2) Perhaps it also allows the weight of the mechanism to provide
the needed downforce on the saw blade, thus easing the work for
the operator.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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