There's probably room on the motor shaft to mount a large pulley. Then use
another motor, with small pulley, to drive everything. In other words, use
the motor for a jackshaft. If you need to go fast again, just take off the
new belt.
Wilson
"Tom Cavanagh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's a Transpower w/2hp motor, turns at 3400+. Is it possible to slow
> this down to a reasonable rate of rpm? It's wired for 220 and pulls 14
> amps.
>
> Tom TIA
>
Tom Cavanagh wrote:
> It's a Transpower w/2hp motor, turns at 3400+. Is it possible to
slow this
> down to a reasonable rate of rpm? It's wired for 220 and pulls 14
amps.
>
> Tom TIA
The cheapest option is to replace the pulleys. Put as small as
possible on the motor and as large as possible on the machine.
Linkbelt can tolerate operating on smaller pulleys than regular rubber
V-belt.
Speed changes according to ratio of pulley sizes:
RPMout/RPMin = DIAMETERin/DIAMETERout
If space doesn't allow a larger machine pulley, you could add an
intermediate shaft with bearings and pulleys. Then you'd have a belt
from the motor to this shaft, and a second belt from the shaft to the
machine. This would give you more flexibility for speed changes.
Swapping the motor for a 1750 rpm motor would be the more expensive
fix.
The next step up is an industrial variable frequency drive and three
phase motor, but that'll cost much more than your sander.
Connecting a 240V induction motor to 120V power will simply burn it
out.
Good luck,
Tim
[email protected] wrote:
> why would it burn out?
Without going into issues such as back EMF and impedance, let's just
say induction motors are more or less constant power devices.
Electrical power is voltage times current. If voltage drops, an
induction motor will draw proportionately more current. Halve the
voltage and it'll draw twice the amps (roughly speaking).
Resistance heating varies with the square of the current. Double the
amps gives four times the heating inside the motor.
The motor is designed to dissipate only the heat generated at its rated
current. It can't get rid of this extra heat, so it cooks itself.
If you're interested, there's more details at places like
http://www.ecmweb.com/mag/electric_highs_lows_motor/
Tim
Indeed an elegant explanation! I like it too.
What about using a dmmer? There is a 2000W dimmer available online (I
have one), and I have run several fans off various dimmers and they run
perfectly and for ever. Of course they may be a different kind of
motor, so I will stand corrected once again if this is a stupid post!
Dean
[email protected] wrote:
> Does it not depend on the type of motor?
Yes, very much.
Universal motors (the motors in many power tools that have brushes on
the commutator) can be slowed with a dimmer switch, although you're
better off with an official "router speed control" since it's designed
to tolerate the heavy inductive load of the motor.
Induction motors (the kind in stationary equipment) rely on the
frequency of the AC line power and their internal construction to
determine how fast they turn. There are some fancy two and three speed
induction motors used on furnace fans, but these are expensive and
uncommon. They change speeds by connecting different internal
windings, but those speeds are still fixed, like 1750/1150 rpm. So, to
change the speed of a standard induction motor the only thing you can
do is change the frequency of the AC. Variable frequency drives do
this electronically, but they cost several hundred dollars.
There's probably a couple of dozen other types of motors, but they
don't show up in woodworking shops very much.
Tim
In article <[email protected]>, "Vic Baron" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:kF8ge.1294$R13.359@trndny09...
>> > Plug it into 110V? Not sure how many amps you'd be pulling,probably
>> > less than 14.
>>
>> Please don't do that.... We want you and your equipment around tomorrow
>> too...
>
>we do?
>
We want the equipment around, anyway, and in good condition, so we can gloat
about the good deal we got at the estate sale.
>
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"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:kF8ge.1294$R13.359@trndny09...
> > Plug it into 110V? Not sure how many amps you'd be pulling,probably
> > less than 14.
>
> Please don't do that.... We want you and your equipment around tomorrow
> too...
we do?
In article <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Indeed an elegant explanation! I like it too.
>
>What about using a dmmer?
Same problem.
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On Tue, 10 May 2005 13:34:16 -0400, "Tom Cavanagh" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>It's a Transpower w/2hp motor, turns at 3400+. Is it possible to slow this
>down to a reasonable rate of rpm? It's wired for 220 and pulls 14 amps.
>
>Tom TIA
>
assuming that it has 2 pulleys, (no idea what a transpower is), and that they're
different sizes, see if the pulleys both have the same shaft size.. if so, try
switching them to change the "gear ratio".. YMMV
mac
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An elegantly simple explanation - I like it!
On 11 May 2005 11:51:10 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> why would it burn out?
>
>Without going into issues such as back EMF and impedance, let's just
>say induction motors are more or less constant power devices.
>
>Electrical power is voltage times current. If voltage drops, an
>induction motor will draw proportionately more current. Halve the
>voltage and it'll draw twice the amps (roughly speaking).
>
>Resistance heating varies with the square of the current. Double the
>amps gives four times the heating inside the motor.
>
>The motor is designed to dissipate only the heat generated at its rated
>current. It can't get rid of this extra heat, so it cooks itself.
>
>If you're interested, there's more details at places like
>http://www.ecmweb.com/mag/electric_highs_lows_motor/
>
>Tim
On 12 May 2005 07:32:41 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Universal motors (the motors in many power tools that have brushes on
>the commutator) can be slowed with a dimmer switch,
Not in the UK, for the dimmer switches we have these days. Since they
started being made so they can be used for two-way switching circuits,
the damn things are so fragile that the switches die when a light bulb
fails and gives an over-current spike. I can't imagine these things
lasting _seconds_ with a real motor connected to them.
If you want a simple phase control module, go to an industrial supplier
(like http://rswww.com ) and buy a real module sold for loads up to a
few kW. They're cheaper too.
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