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Silvan

09/11/2003 1:19 AM

Stuff you wish you'd done sooner...

Somebody had a thread to this effect a bit back, but I've lost it.

Some recent additions...

I finally tried using wax on a screw. Why did I never do that before? It's
only suggested in every book in the world. It really works too!

I already mentioned making a miter sled, but that one was the easy one with
the plywood factory corner. Easy to make, not so easy to use precisely. I
saw a plan for another type long ago, and I finally dug it out and made
one. It involves a right triangle cutout with a clearance hole in the
bottom of the V.

Much harder to make well, but *much* more precise to use, since I can
measure/cut straight lines and then trim the waste. I'm still dealing with
a saw that has nothing good going for it, and these cuts still aren't
absolutely perfect, but I figure if I can knock the point off with my
thumbnail it's plenty close enough for me.

The down side is that this method is more wasteful, since the little
triangle cutoffs are pretty useless. Less wasteful than having to re-make
parts because you cut one 1/16" too short though. Maybe I can glue them up
into some kind of turning blank after I make a bunch of these from
different woods.

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This topic has 21 replies

CM

Chris Merrill

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

11/11/2003 3:35 AM

Silvan wrote:
> Somebody had a thread to this effect a bit back, but I've lost it.
>
> Some recent additions...

build this tail-vice for my workbench:
http://christophermerrill.net/ww/shop/tailVice.html


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tT

[email protected] (ToolMiser)

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

09/11/2003 12:43 PM

I still haven't done it, but I've always wanted to make to collection of
articles, formulas, and standards relating to woodworking. Things like: how to
draw an arc using three points, recomendations for spans of different woods
for bookshelves. Just little tips and ideas that I could put in a binder and
have half a clue where to look for them. Another book for ideas of things I
would like to make.

Just my 2 cents.

cb

charlie b

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

09/11/2003 8:43 AM

Bob G wrote:
> While this is NOT something I wish I had done earlier IT IS something I
> really need to do.
>
> Over the years I have accumulated quite a few "JIGS"
> and I really have to find a way to remember that I DO HAVE A JIG FOR THIS
> CUT and even more important I NEED to remember where the devil I "stuffed"
> that jig after I used it...
>
> Just cleaned my shop last week after finishing my latest project and
> found 4 or 5 jigs that I had completely forgotten about and 1 or 2 of those
> I had to really think hard as to why I made them... and the real kicker is
> that
> I could have used some of those things a number of times
> in the last year or two IF I HAD REMEMBERED I had them...
>

Michael Fortune does a LOT of jigs and some of his pieces require
quite
a few jigs. He labels each one with the project description/name, the
step number in the process and any special notes on the use of the
jig.
For multiple jigs pieces he keeps them together - often boxed and
labeled.
Frequently used jigs are hung on the wall or from hooks in the
ceiling.
I imagine he's got a computer data base of his jigs as well.

I'd bet that most jigs could be put together with pocket hole screws
or
the like, disassembled, bound up with that stretchy plastic "tape" and
stuck on a shelf when not in use.

charlie b

TW

Traves W. Coppock

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

13/11/2003 2:02 PM

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:19:30 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. .
.:

>Somebody had a thread to this effect a bit back, but I've lost it.
>

snip

i recently added a central DC, and strung 2 more circuits into my
shop. . . .no more extension cords layin everywhere, and most of my
dust goes away now without the aid of a broom and dustpan!


Traves

Tt

Trent©

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

11/11/2003 10:06 PM

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:35:23 GMT, Chris Merrill
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Silvan wrote:
>> Somebody had a thread to this effect a bit back, but I've lost it.
>>
>> Some recent additions...
>
>build this tail-vice for my workbench:
> http://christophermerrill.net/ww/shop/tailVice.html

Thanks for the tip, Chris. I think I might try this one, too.

The PRICE is sure right!


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

dD

[email protected] (Dick Durbin)

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

09/11/2003 5:19 PM

Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Somebody had a thread to this effect a bit back, but I've lost it.
>
> Some recent additions...

Over the last few months I have put my jointer and bandsaw on mobile
bases. What a difference it makes in making my shop more managable.

Another thing I did, just today, was to build jigs to hold pieces of
the adirorondack chairs I seem to build so many of. It eliminates so
much of the guesswork and chance involved in building them.

Dick Durbin
Tallahassee

wH

[email protected] (Hylourgos)

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

12/11/2003 11:27 AM

In addition to what you've assembled, you might consult:

Robert Scharff, Workshop Math

Jas Gerhart, Everyday Math for the Building Trades

Way more than I'll ever use in those two books....

Regards,
H.

[email protected] (ToolMiser) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I still haven't done it, but I've always wanted to make to collection of
> articles, formulas, and standards relating to woodworking. Things like: how to
> draw an arc using three points, recomendations for spans of different woods
> for bookshelves. Just little tips and ideas that I could put in a binder and
> have half a clue where to look for them. Another book for ideas of things I
> would like to make.
>
> Just my 2 cents.

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

21/11/2003 8:25 AM

Rob V wrote:

> Post some pics of it.
> Id love to see it.

It's not done just yet. I have to build the box, and make the trays and
whatnot. The top is ready to go now, and I think I'm going to go ahead and
finish it before I spill something on it. However, I don't want Dad to
google across it randomly, so no pics until after he gets it. :)

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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

pP

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin)

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

10/11/2003 1:38 PM

Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Somebody had a thread to this effect a bit back, but I've lost it.

Simple mitre box w/bench hook. Ten minutes to make - used a bajillion
times.

Plane shelf - Screwd a furring strip to the leading edge of the
shelf-of-planes, and then tacked a row of popsicle sticks right behind
it. The plane's toes rest on on the line of popsicle sticks, which
means not having to worry about the controversial
practice/non-practice of laying a plane on its side.

*Ahem*... Got divorced? ;)

O'Deen

LL

Lazarus Long

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

10/11/2003 7:38 AM

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:15:03 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>
>Yes it does, I seldom put a screw into hard wood with out wax unless it is a
>pocket hole screw. Do not however make the mistake of using "soap" which is
>also commonly suggested.
>
What's the problem with using soap?

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Lazarus Long on 10/11/2003 7:38 AM

10/11/2003 4:47 PM

Lazarus Long asks:

>>Yes it does, I seldom put a screw into hard wood with out wax unless it is a
>>pocket hole screw. Do not however make the mistake of using "soap" which is
>>also commonly suggested.
>>
>What's the problem with using soap?

It's hygroscopic. That is, it draws water to itself, which is not really handy
in most woodworking situations as it helps speed corrosion of most fasteners.

Charlie Self

"Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same
function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of
things." Sir Winston Churchill















Sd

Silvan

in reply to Lazarus Long on 10/11/2003 7:38 AM

12/11/2003 12:48 AM

Trent© wrote:

>>It's hygroscopic. That is, it draws water to itself, which is not really
>>handy in most woodworking situations as it helps speed corrosion of most
>>fasteners.
>
> Which probably means...you'll only get 100 years out of the project
> without problems...instead of 150! lol

Depends on the screws you use, I guess. I've seen soap on brass, which made
the screws ooze green goo after a couple years. Not cool.

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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Tt

Trent©

in reply to Lazarus Long on 10/11/2003 7:38 AM

11/11/2003 10:03 PM

On 10 Nov 2003 16:47:36 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Lazarus Long asks:
>
>>>Yes it does, I seldom put a screw into hard wood with out wax unless it is a
>>>pocket hole screw. Do not however make the mistake of using "soap" which is
>>>also commonly suggested.
>>>
>>What's the problem with using soap?
>
>It's hygroscopic. That is, it draws water to itself, which is not really handy
>in most woodworking situations as it helps speed corrosion of most fasteners.
>
>Charlie Self

Which probably means...you'll only get 100 years out of the project
without problems...instead of 150! lol


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

BG

"Bob G"

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

09/11/2003 1:49 PM


> articles, formulas, and standards relating to woodworking. Things like:
how to
> draw an arc using three points, recomendations for spans of different
woods
> for bookshelves. Just little tips and ideas that I could put in a binder
and
> have half a clue where to look for them. Another book for ideas of things
I
> would like to make.

================================
While this is NOT something I wish I had done earlier IT IS something I
really need to do.

Over the years I have accumulated quite a few "JIGS"
and I really have to find a way to remember that I DO HAVE A JIG FOR THIS
CUT and even more important I NEED to remember where the devil I "stuffed"
that jig after I used it...

Just cleaned my shop last week after finishing my latest project and
found 4 or 5 jigs that I had completely forgotten about and 1 or 2 of those
I had to really think hard as to why I made them... and the real kicker is
that
I could have used some of those things a number of times
in the last year or two IF I HAD REMEMBERED I had them...

Bob Griffiths

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

11/11/2003 6:32 PM

Chris Merrill wrote:

> build this tail-vice for my workbench:
> http://christophermerrill.net/ww/shop/tailVice.html

That's a really good idea! I might build one of those myself.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

jP

[email protected] (PC Gameplayer)

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

12/11/2003 3:19 PM

Stuff I wish I'd done earlier?

Two words: "started woodworking"

(C:

Jim

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

09/11/2003 4:15 PM


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Somebody had a thread to this effect a bit back, but I've lost it.
>
> Some recent additions...
>
> I finally tried using wax on a screw. Why did I never do that before?
It's
> only suggested in every book in the world. It really works too!

Yes it does, I seldom put a screw into hard wood with out wax unless it is a
pocket hole screw. Do not however make the mistake of using "soap" which is
also commonly suggested.


sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

10/11/2003 3:00 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Lazarus Long <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:15:03 GMT, "Leon"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>Yes it does, I seldom put a screw into hard wood with out wax unless it is a
>>pocket hole screw. Do not however make the mistake of using "soap" which is
>>also commonly suggested.
>>
>What's the problem with using soap?
>
It absorbs moisture from the air, which promotes corrosion of steel screws.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

RV

"Rob V"

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

21/11/2003 7:24 AM

Post some pics of it.
Id love to see it.

"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here's another one... I finally bought one of those band clamps with the
> ratcheting strap thing and the four corner pieces.
>
> Why did it take so long? Wow, those things are *handy*!!
>
> I s'pose one reason for my delay is that it took me this long to be able
to
> cut miters that would actually fit together properly under such clamping,
> using the sled I had on my mind when I started this thread.
>
> The frame for my chess board looks primo, if I do say so myself. Hey, it
> only took me 10 years to make a frame whose corners didn't need any
> doctoring. :)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

20/11/2003 8:36 PM

Here's another one... I finally bought one of those band clamps with the
ratcheting strap thing and the four corner pieces.

Why did it take so long? Wow, those things are *handy*!!

I s'pose one reason for my delay is that it took me this long to be able to
cut miters that would actually fit together properly under such clamping,
using the sled I had on my mind when I started this thread.

The frame for my chess board looks primo, if I do say so myself. Hey, it
only took me 10 years to make a frame whose corners didn't need any
doctoring. :)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to Silvan on 09/11/2003 1:19 AM

09/11/2003 8:20 PM

On 09 Nov 2003 12:43:19 GMT, [email protected] (ToolMiser) wrote:

>I still haven't done it, but I've always wanted to make to collection of
>articles, formulas, and standards relating to woodworking. Things like: how to
>draw an arc using three points, recomendations for spans of different woods
>for bookshelves. Just little tips and ideas that I could put in a binder and
>have half a clue where to look for them. Another book for ideas of things I
>would like to make.
>
>Just my 2 cents.


That's why I have an old PC networked to a DSL line in the shop.

I used to keep such a book, but Google has been much more useful.

BArry


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