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Electric Comet

27/01/2017 1:31 PM

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having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful

anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now









This topic has 32 replies

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

29/01/2017 10:56 AM

On 1/28/2017 9:01 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 1/27/2017 9:00 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>
>>>>> I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus
>>>>> 32 Times 8"
>>>>>
>>>>> She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
>>>>>
>>>>> The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
>>>>>
>>>>> (Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is
>>>>> Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"
>>>>
>>>> I asked my dog. He scratched on the floor with his paw, -246. Just
>>>> rounded it off. Dumb dog.
>>>
>>> How did he indicate the "negative"? Did he use his back paw or did he
>>> scratch back to front?
>>>
>>
>> Turned to face south. Usually faces north for math. Faces west to
>> give temperature in Fahrenheit, east for Celsius.
>
> Dog's a liar; she's horrible at math. But, she can read over
> DerbyDad's shoulder.
>
> Dave in SoTex

No wonder he wanted a pair of reading glasses.

b

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

30/01/2017 2:53 AM

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 7:46:08 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:48:51 -0500
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > It is extremely difficult to get 3 pieces 6.00 inches long out of an
> > 18.00 inch piece.
>
> there are ultrasonic slicers now
>
> not sure if they have made them work with wood yet but i bet they have
>
> saw one used in food production
>
> was used for slicing things that deform badly when sliced
>
> the ultrasonic sliced perfectly with no deformation and no scrap
>
> and almost no sound of course
>
> really effectively sielnt

if so inclined (pretty thin kerf, if not perfectly accurate):
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/tools/a22474/paper-saw-blade-cut-test/

ww

whit3rd

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 11:22 PM

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 1:49:03 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:

> It is extremely difficult to get 3 pieces 6.00 inches long out of an
> 18.00 inch piece.

Do it all the time with dowels. Knife, roll the dowel under blade pressure along the bench,
and when the score line is deep enough, snap the length off. With boards, it takes a diagonal
cut (two bookcase sides 5' high, and a little over, from a 10' board after taking an inch off each end
to clean it up).
Scissors on 0.042" veneer is another way.

k

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

27/01/2017 9:09 PM

On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>>
>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>
>What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?

How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
>
>I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32 Times 8"
>
>She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
>
>The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
>
>(Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
>
>I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"

k

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

27/01/2017 9:28 PM

On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:18:31 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 9:09:44 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> >> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>> >>
>> >> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>> >
>> >What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>>
>> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
>
>She said: "The answer is approximately 6 point 396" and displayed:

Hmm, didn't answer a fractional question with a fractional answer?

>
>(19 3/16)/3 = 6.39583333333
>
>BTW, she also displays a calculator in case I want to so my own calculations.
>
>
>> >I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32 Times 8"
>> >
>> >She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
>> >
>> >The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
>> >
>> >(Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
>> >
>> >I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"

k

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 10:03 PM

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 20:34:46 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 1/28/2017 6:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:46:01 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:44:35 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:55:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/27/2017 9:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>>>>>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How much tolerance do you allow?
>>>>
>>>> Since the information given is only good to 1/16", more precision in
>>>> the result wouldn't be useful.
>>>
>>> Really? So if I have a piece of something that measures 1/16" and I want to
>>> cut it into thirds, I guess I'm already done. But wait, I still only have 1
>>> piece.
>>
>> No, if you cut something in three, you will always have three pieces
>> (kinda by definition). If you ask what is 1/16 divided by three, the
>> right answer is "zero".
>
>I would have thought 1/48. ;~)
>
Your answer has more significant bits than the problem. Fail! ;-)

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 8:34 PM

On 1/28/2017 6:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:46:01 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:44:35 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:55:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/27/2017 9:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>>>>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>>>>>
>>>>> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How much tolerance do you allow?
>>>
>>> Since the information given is only good to 1/16", more precision in
>>> the result wouldn't be useful.
>>
>> Really? So if I have a piece of something that measures 1/16" and I want to
>> cut it into thirds, I guess I'm already done. But wait, I still only have 1
>> piece.
>
> No, if you cut something in three, you will always have three pieces
> (kinda by definition). If you ask what is 1/16 divided by three, the
> right answer is "zero".

I would have thought 1/48. ;~)




Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 8:14 PM

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 4:49:03 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:46:01 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:44:35 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:55:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 1/27/2017 9:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> >> >>>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
> >> >>>
> >> >>> What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
> >> >>
> >> >> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >How much tolerance do you allow?
> >>
> >> Since the information given is only good to 1/16", more precision in
> >> the result wouldn't be useful.
> >
> >Really? So if I have a piece of something that measures 1/16" and I want to
> >cut it into thirds, I guess I'm already done. But wait, I still only have 1
> >piece.
> >
> >In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
> You need to take into account the width of the Kerf.
> It is extremely difficult to get 3 pieces 6.00 inches long out of an
> 18.00 inch piece.

I was waiting for that. ;-)

However it doesn't change the point I was making. I can still calculate a number that each
of the 3 pieces will measure and each of those numbers will be 1 divided by a number that
is larger than 16.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

27/01/2017 4:18 PM

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>
> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now

What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?

I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32 Times 8"

She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"

The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:

(Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029

I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 4:27 AM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o6ge41$646$2
@dont-email.me:

>
> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>
> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>
>

Cortana can handle basic math, but when I throw anything more complicated
at her, she just does a web search. When my hands are full, that's when I
usually don't need a calculator.

Puckdropper
--
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Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 4:30 AM

Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:


>
> I asked my dog. He scratched on the floor with his paw, -246. Just
> rounded it off. Dumb dog.

He's obviously not a sheep dog. They're good at rounding things up, so he
would have said -250.

Puckdropper
--
http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!

Mm

Markem

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 12:29 PM

On 28 Jan 2017 04:30:55 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>
>> I asked my dog. He scratched on the floor with his paw, -246. Just
>> rounded it off. Dumb dog.
>
>He's obviously not a sheep dog. They're good at rounding things up, so he
>would have said -250.
>

But that is rounding it down not up, up is -245.

c

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 4:48 PM

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:46:01 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:44:35 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:55:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On 1/27/2017 9:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> >>>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>> >>>>
>> >>>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>> >>>
>> >>> What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>> >>
>> >> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >How much tolerance do you allow?
>>
>> Since the information given is only good to 1/16", more precision in
>> the result wouldn't be useful.
>
>Really? So if I have a piece of something that measures 1/16" and I want to
>cut it into thirds, I guess I'm already done. But wait, I still only have 1
>piece.
>
>In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
You need to take into account the width of the Kerf.
It is extremely difficult to get 3 pieces 6.00 inches long out of an
18.00 inch piece.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 11:46 AM

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:44:35 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:55:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On 1/27/2017 9:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> >>>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
> >>>>
> >>>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
> >>>
> >>> What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
> >>
> >> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
> >
> >
> >How much tolerance do you allow?
>
> Since the information given is only good to 1/16", more precision in
> the result wouldn't be useful.

Really? So if I have a piece of something that measures 1/16" and I want to
cut it into thirds, I guess I'm already done. But wait, I still only have 1
piece.

In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

27/01/2017 10:55 PM

On 1/27/2017 9:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>>>
>>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>>
>> What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>
> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)


How much tolerance do you allow?

I'd convert in my head to 18 18/16 = 6 3/16 plus about a third of a
1/16th (actually 1/48) and make the cut. Close enough.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

27/01/2017 6:18 PM

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 9:09:44 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> >> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
> >>
> >> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
> >
> >What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>
> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)

She said: "The answer is approximately 6 point 396" and displayed:

(19 3/16)/3 = 6.39583333333

BTW, she also displays a calculator in case I want to so my own calculations.


> >I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32 Times 8"
> >
> >She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
> >
> >The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
> >
> >(Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
> >
> >I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

27/01/2017 6:00 PM

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 8:46:59 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> >> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
> >>
> >> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
> >
> >What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
> >
> >I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32 Times 8"
> >
> >She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
> >
> >The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
> >
> >(Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
> >
> >I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"
>
> I asked my dog. He scratched on the floor with his paw, -246. Just
> rounded it off. Dumb dog.

How did he indicate the "negative"? Did he use his back paw or did he
scratch back to front?

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

30/01/2017 4:56 PM

On 1/30/2017 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/30/2017 1:22 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> if a mill could cut wood with no saw dust and no loss of material
>> that could convert to more money quickly
>>
>
> This has been discussed a few times before, just the saving by switching
> to a thin kerf blade you can save on both wood and power. The change to
> thin kerf allows me to buy less wood. Using the blade takes less power
> and it drastically cut the electric bill too.
>
> I've tracked the savings on a spreadsheet and the savings was enough to
> put my two kids through college. Simply put, thin kerf = no student loans.
>
> If a tool or machine eliminates any loss, I'd buy one and with the
> payback be out shopping for a Corvette. Bring on the technology.
>

If you bought two think kerf blades and mounted them side by side you
could save enough to become a multi millionaire. ;~)

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

27/01/2017 11:01 PM

On 1/27/2017 9:00 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

>>> I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32 Times 8"
>>>
>>> She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
>>>
>>> The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
>>>
>>> (Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
>>>
>>> I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"
>>
>> I asked my dog. He scratched on the floor with his paw, -246. Just
>> rounded it off. Dumb dog.
>
> How did he indicate the "negative"? Did he use his back paw or did he
> scratch back to front?
>

Turned to face south. Usually faces north for math. Faces west to give
temperature in Fahrenheit, east for Celsius.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

30/01/2017 4:33 PM

On 1/30/2017 1:22 PM, Electric Comet wrote:

>
>
> if a mill could cut wood with no saw dust and no loss of material
> that could convert to more money quickly
>

This has been discussed a few times before, just the saving by switching
to a thin kerf blade you can save on both wood and power. The change to
thin kerf allows me to buy less wood. Using the blade takes less power
and it drastically cut the electric bill too.

I've tracked the savings on a spreadsheet and the savings was enough to
put my two kids through college. Simply put, thin kerf = no student loans.

If a tool or machine eliminates any loss, I'd buy one and with the
payback be out shopping for a Corvette. Bring on the technology.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 6:59 PM

On 1/28/2017 4:48 PM, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>
>>>> How much tolerance do you allow?
>>>
>>> Since the information given is only good to 1/16", more precision in
>>> the result wouldn't be useful.
>>
>> Really? So if I have a piece of something that measures 1/16" and I want to
>> cut it into thirds, I guess I'm already done. But wait, I still only have 1
>> piece.
>>
>> In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
> You need to take into account the width of the Kerf.
> It is extremely difficult to get 3 pieces 6.00 inches long out of an
> 18.00 inch piece.
>
Years ago woodworkers worried about things like that, but no more.
Today, you get two pieces a full 6" and a third piece that gets a trophy
for participating.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

27/01/2017 8:30 PM

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:18:31 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 9:09:44 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> >> >> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
> >> >>
> >> >> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
> >> >
> >> >What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
> >>
> >> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
> >
> >She said: "The answer is approximately 6 point 396" and displayed:
>
> Hmm, didn't answer a fractional question with a fractional answer?

When I added "in sixteenths" to the question, instead of doing the math, my phone offered
some links to on-line calculators that give answers in fractions.

>
> >
> >(19 3/16)/3 = 6.39583333333
> >
> >BTW, she also displays a calculator in case I want to so my own calculations.
> >
> >
> >> >I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32 Times 8"
> >> >
> >> >She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
> >> >
> >> >The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
> >> >
> >> >(Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
> >> >
> >> >I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"



On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:18:31 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 9:09:44 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> >> >> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
> >> >>
> >> >> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
> >> >
> >> >What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
> >>
> >> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
> >
> >She said: "The answer is approximately 6 point 396" and displayed:
>
> Hmm, didn't answer a fractional question with a fractional answer?
>
> >
> >(19 3/16)/3 = 6.39583333333
> >
> >BTW, she also displays a calculator in case I want to so my own calculations.
> >
> >
> >> >I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32 Times 8"
> >> >
> >> >She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
> >> >
> >> >The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
> >> >
> >> >(Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
> >> >
> >> >I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"

Di

"Dave in SoTex"

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 8:01 AM


"Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1/27/2017 9:00 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>>>> I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32
>>>> Times 8"
>>>>
>>>> She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
>>>>
>>>> The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
>>>>
>>>> (Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
>>>>
>>>> I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately
>>>> Negative 246 Point 202"
>>>
>>> I asked my dog. He scratched on the floor with his paw, -246. Just
>>> rounded it off. Dumb dog.
>>
>> How did he indicate the "negative"? Did he use his back paw or did he
>> scratch back to front?
>>
>
> Turned to face south. Usually faces north for math. Faces west to give
> temperature in Fahrenheit, east for Celsius.

Dog's a liar; she's horrible at math. But, she can read over DerbyDad's
shoulder.

Dave in SoTex

c

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

29/01/2017 11:58 PM

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 16:46:04 -0800, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:48:51 -0500
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> It is extremely difficult to get 3 pieces 6.00 inches long out of an
>> 18.00 inch piece.
>
>there are ultrasonic slicers now
>
>not sure if they have made them work with wood yet but i bet they have
>
>saw one used in food production
>
>was used for slicing things that deform badly when sliced
>
>the ultrasonic sliced perfectly with no deformation and no scrap
>
>and almost no sound of course
>
>really effectively sielnt
>
>
>
>
>
Be a while before you see them in home woodshops - even those that
currently have shelves of "green" tools - - - -

k

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 7:09 PM

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:46:01 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:44:35 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:55:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On 1/27/2017 9:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> >>>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>> >>>>
>> >>>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>> >>>
>> >>> What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>> >>
>> >> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >How much tolerance do you allow?
>>
>> Since the information given is only good to 1/16", more precision in
>> the result wouldn't be useful.
>
>Really? So if I have a piece of something that measures 1/16" and I want to
>cut it into thirds, I guess I'm already done. But wait, I still only have 1
>piece.

No, if you cut something in three, you will always have three pieces
(kinda by definition). If you ask what is 1/16 divided by three, the
right answer is "zero".

>In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.

No, in this case theory and practice are perfectly compatable. The
problem is understanding precision.

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 1:51 PM

On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:31:13 -0800
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:

> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now

going to add this feature to the talking table saw fence

examples

inches 33 millimeters

millimeters 7 inches

humidity

time

13 and 11 16 times 3

air quality

temperature

open the pod bay doors









EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

29/01/2017 4:46 PM

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:48:51 -0500
[email protected] wrote:

> It is extremely difficult to get 3 pieces 6.00 inches long out of an
> 18.00 inch piece.

there are ultrasonic slicers now

not sure if they have made them work with wood yet but i bet they have

saw one used in food production

was used for slicing things that deform badly when sliced

the ultrasonic sliced perfectly with no deformation and no scrap

and almost no sound of course

really effectively sielnt





EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

30/01/2017 10:22 AM

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 23:58:31 -0500
[email protected] wrote:

> Be a while before you see them in home woodshops - even those that

never know

sometimes technology breaks out and disrupts

it could happen if someone developing it now decides to expand
their market space


if a mill could cut wood with no saw dust and no loss of material
that could convert to more money quickly

and since ultrasound slicers seem to work better on wet wood a mill
is where it my show up first

then the tech trickles down

portable ultrasound saws would be next






EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

30/01/2017 3:13 PM

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:33:58 -0500
Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

> to put my two kids through college. Simply put, thin kerf = no
> student loans.

that should be a blade maker slogan

but then someone will spoil it by suing because they bought the
blade and still had to take a student loan




k

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 11:44 AM

On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:55:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 1/27/2017 9:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>>>>
>>>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>>>
>>> What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>>
>> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
>
>
>How much tolerance do you allow?

Since the information given is only good to 1/16", more precision in
the result wouldn't be useful.

>I'd convert in my head to 18 18/16 = 6 3/16 plus about a third of a
>1/16th (actually 1/48) and make the cut. Close enough.
n

c

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

28/01/2017 10:13 PM

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 22:03:54 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 20:34:46 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>wrote:
>
>>On 1/28/2017 6:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:46:01 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:44:35 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:55:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/27/2017 9:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>>>>>>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about "nineteen and three sixteenths divided by three"? ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much tolerance do you allow?
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the information given is only good to 1/16", more precision in
>>>>> the result wouldn't be useful.
>>>>
>>>> Really? So if I have a piece of something that measures 1/16" and I want to
>>>> cut it into thirds, I guess I'm already done. But wait, I still only have 1
>>>> piece.
>>>
>>> No, if you cut something in three, you will always have three pieces
>>> (kinda by definition). If you ask what is 1/16 divided by three, the
>>> right answer is "zero".
>>
>>I would have thought 1/48. ;~)
>>
>Your answer has more significant bits than the problem. Fail! ;-)
How about .02"

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/01/2017 1:31 PM

27/01/2017 8:47 PM

On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 4:31:21 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> having a hands free calculator in the shop would be useful
>>
>> anyone tried siri or one of the other talking devices that are out now
>
>What Kind Of Calculations Are You Expecting The Device To Do Via Voice?
>
>I Just Asked My Phone: "What Is The Square Root Of 6 Times 4 Minus 32 Times 8"
>
>She Responded: "The Answer Is Approximately Minus 246 Point 202"
>
>The Phone Displayed The Calculation As:
>
>(Square Root(6) x 4) -(32 x 8) = -246.202041029
>
>I'm Not Impressed. She Should Have Said "The Answer Is Approximately Negative 246 Point 202"

I asked my dog. He scratched on the floor with his paw, -246. Just
rounded it off. Dumb dog.


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