Table Saw tune up

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:58:31 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:39:17 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> It's great on hinge pins. Pop the pin, spray the hinge holes, spray the
>> pin, and tap it back in. Good for 5-7 non-squeaky years.
>
>Hmmm. I've always used a silicone spray for that. But it only lasts a
>year or two. I'll have to look for the Triflon - thanks.

More often than not, I use moly wheel bearing grease because I ran out
of Triflow a couple years after I moved here. Noone around here sells
it.

--
Good ideas alter the power balance in relationships, that is why
good ideas are always initially resisted. Good ideas come with a
heavy burden. Which is why so few people have them. So few people
can handle it.
-- Hugh Macleod

> On 2/23/2012 9:04 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>> "ChairMan"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been
>>> very stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the
>>> pivoting shaft out(where the problem lies)
>>> Posted some pics in ABPW
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
>> I never got the shaft out, but I clamped it to one of my horses and
>> started lubing it with penetrating oil and working it up and down
>> with a crowbar. Finally got it loosened up and then flooded it with
>> WD-40 while I worked it up and down until it ran clear from rust.
>> Now if I pull it to the up position on the horse it will fall to the
>> down position. It moves like butta.
>> Again, thanks for all the replies
>>
>>
>
> WD 40 will eventually evaporate, be sure to put a more permanent lube
> in there.

I did, i blew out as much WD as I could then lubed it with real lube
and graphite.
I think I'll do this a little more often now, so it doesn't get so
stiff again
Thanks again for the suggestions

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:00:03 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 2/23/2012 12:39 PM, CW wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Larry Blanchard" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:52:36 -0600, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> Then I use
>>> something like Tiflon.
>>
>> Tiflon: Tiffany's teflon :-).
>> =======================================================================
>> Triflon. Used to be Triflow when it first came out but I believe there
>> was some sort of copywrite problem.
>
>Well I am apparently FOS. LOL My can of Triflon is actually TRIFLOW
>w/Teflon. My can is about 5 years old.

That's good stuff, but it's not dry lube. It will pick up sawdust and
dirt. It's great on hinge pins. Pop the pin, spray the hinge holes,
spray the pin, and tap it back in. Good for 5-7 non-squeaky years.

--
Good ideas alter the power balance in relationships, that is why
good ideas are always initially resisted. Good ideas come with a
heavy burden. Which is why so few people have them. So few people
can handle it.
-- Hugh Macleod

"ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote in news:cjk1r.304238$gr6.201151
@unlimited.newshosting.com:

> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been very
> stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the pivoting shaft
> out(where the problem lies)
> Posted some pics in ABPW
> Any suggestions?
>
> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>
>
>

Have you tried turning it the other way?

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote in news:cjk1r.304238$gr6.201151
> @unlimited.newshosting.com:
>
>> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been
>> very stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the
>> pivoting shaft out(where the problem lies)
>> Posted some pics in ABPW
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Have you tried turning it the other way?
>
> Puckdropper

Never mind... thought it was something that might screw or bolt in
initially.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On Feb 22, 11:40=A0pm, "ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been very
> stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the pivoting shaft
> out(where the problem lies)
> Posted some pics in ABPW
> Any suggestions?
>
> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?

What kind of table saw is it (brand, model)?

RonB

Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:36:10 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/22/2012 11:40 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>>> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been
>>> very stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the
>>> pivoting shaft out(where the problem lies)
>>> Posted some pics in ABPW
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I typically use a penetrating oil on all of the turning and sliding
>> surfaces under the table. With out disassemble.
>
> A can of spray dry-lube is your friend for this.

I agree. Graphite is much better than oil - does not attract or hold
sawdust (gum up).

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:36:10 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 2/22/2012 11:40 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been very
>> stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the pivoting shaft
>> out(where the problem lies)
>> Posted some pics in ABPW
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>>
>>
>
>I typically use a penetrating oil on all of the turning and sliding
>surfaces under the table. With out disassemble.

A can of spray dry-lube is your friend for this.

--
Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are
based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that
I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as
I have received and am still receiving.
-- Albert Einstein

Leon wrote:
> On 2/23/2012 8:09 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:36:10 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/22/2012 11:40 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been
>>>>> very stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the
>>>>> pivoting shaft out(where the problem lies)
>>>>> Posted some pics in ABPW
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I typically use a penetrating oil on all of the turning and sliding
>>>> surfaces under the table. With out disassemble.
>>>
>>> A can of spray dry-lube is your friend for this.
>>
>> I agree. Graphite is much better than oil - does not attract or hold
>> sawdust (gum up).
>>
>
> BUT he has a near frozen situation, you need something to penetrate.
> For normal maintenance I use TopCote on the gears and guides but
> TopCote does not get in between the bearings and shafts very well. Then I
> use something like Tiflon.

Agreed - addressing the immediate issue is one thing - but routine
maintenance is a different thing. Was not trying to suggest that the
immediate remedy should not include penetrating oils.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On 2/22/2012 11:40 PM, ChairMan wrote:
> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been very
> stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the pivoting shaft
> out(where the problem lies)
> Posted some pics in ABPW
> Any suggestions?
>
> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>
>

I typically use a penetrating oil on all of the turning and sliding
surfaces under the table. With out disassemble.

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:58:31 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:39:17 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> It's great on hinge pins. Pop the pin, spray the hinge holes, spray the
>> pin, and tap it back in. Good for 5-7 non-squeaky years.
>
>Hmmm. I've always used a silicone spray for that. But it only lasts a
>year or two. I'll have to look for the Triflon - thanks.

More often than not, I use moly wheel bearing grease because I ran out
of Triflow a couple years after I moved here. Noone around here sells
it.
=================================================================
Go to a gun shop and get some Break Free. Same kind of stuff (Teflon in oil)
but its mil spec.














--
Good ideas alter the power balance in relationships, that is why
good ideas are always initially resisted. Good ideas come with a
heavy burden. Which is why so few people have them. So few people
can handle it.
-- Hugh Macleod

On 2/23/2012 9:40 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 2/23/2012 8:09 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:36:10 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/22/2012 11:40 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>>>>>> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been
>>>>>> very stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the
>>>>>> pivoting shaft out(where the problem lies)
>>>>>> Posted some pics in ABPW
>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I typically use a penetrating oil on all of the turning and sliding
>>>>> surfaces under the table. With out disassemble.
>>>>
>>>> A can of spray dry-lube is your friend for this.
>>>
>>> I agree. Graphite is much better than oil - does not attract or hold
>>> sawdust (gum up).
>>>
>>
>> BUT he has a near frozen situation, you need something to penetrate.
>> For normal maintenance I use TopCote on the gears and guides but
>> TopCote does not get in between the bearings and shafts very well. Then I
>> use something like Tiflon.
>
> Agreed - addressing the immediate issue is one thing - but routine
> maintenance is a different thing. Was not trying to suggest that the
> immediate remedy should not include penetrating oils.
>

And I was a bit misleading in saying that I exclusively use penetrating
oil on everything under there. ;~)

On 2/23/2012 11:40 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:52:36 -0600, Leon wrote:
>
>> Then I use
>> something like Tiflon.
>
> Tiflon: Tiffany's teflon :-).
>



OOPS! Triflon or some thing like that. LOL

"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On 2/23/2012 12:39 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Larry Blanchard" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:52:36 -0600, Leon wrote:
>
>> Then I use
>> something like Tiflon.
>
> Tiflon: Tiffany's teflon :-).
> =======================================================================
> Triflon. Used to be Triflow when it first came out but I believe there
> was some sort of copywrite problem.
>
>

Well I am apparently FOS. LOL My can of Triflon is actually TRIFLOW
w/Teflon. My can is about 5 years old.
=============================================================
You must have gotten a very old can. They changed the name about 1979.

"ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been very
> stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the pivoting shaft
> out(where the problem lies)
> Posted some pics in ABPW
> Any suggestions?
>
> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>


Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
I never got the shaft out, but I clamped it to one of my horses and started
lubing it with penetrating oil and working it up and down with a crowbar.
Finally got it loosened up and then flooded it with WD-40 while I worked it
up and down until it ran clear from rust. Now if I pull it to the up
position on the horse it will fall to the down position. It moves like
butta.
Again, thanks for all the replies

On 2/23/2012 1:32 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 2/23/2012 12:39 PM, CW wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Larry Blanchard" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:52:36 -0600, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> Then I use
>>> something like Tiflon.
>>
>> Tiflon: Tiffany's teflon :-).
>> =======================================================================
>> Triflon. Used to be Triflow when it first came out but I believe there
>> was some sort of copywrite problem.
>>
>>
>
> Well I am apparently FOS. LOL My can of Triflon is actually TRIFLOW
> w/Teflon. My can is about 5 years old.
> =============================================================
> You must have gotten a very old can. They changed the name about 1979.

No now you are FOS LOL.

Apparently they dropped the "with Teflon"/, it now has P.T.F.F
It is still called Triflow.

http://www.triflowlubricants.com/Tri-Flow_Superior_Aerosol_Lubricant.html

On 2/23/2012 9:04 PM, ChairMan wrote:
> "ChairMan"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been very
>> stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the pivoting shaft
>> out(where the problem lies)
>> Posted some pics in ABPW
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>>
>
>
> Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
> I never got the shaft out, but I clamped it to one of my horses and started
> lubing it with penetrating oil and working it up and down with a crowbar.
> Finally got it loosened up and then flooded it with WD-40 while I worked it
> up and down until it ran clear from rust. Now if I pull it to the up
> position on the horse it will fall to the down position. It moves like
> butta.
> Again, thanks for all the replies
>
>

WD 40 will eventually evaporate, be sure to put a more permanent lube in
there.

On Feb 23, 12:40=A0am, "ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been very
> stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the pivoting shaft
> out(where the problem lies)
> Posted some pics in ABPW
> Any suggestions?
>
> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?

While you have your saw apart an old site had a great writeup on how
to make your adjustment wheels more responsive.

Unfortunately it is now only available via the wayback machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040203200907/http://home.pacbell.net/jdismuk/j=
etfix.html

be patient, it takes a while to load but is worth it.
Loads much faster using Chrome than IE like most web pages.

On 2/23/2012 8:09 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:36:10 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/22/2012 11:40 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to tune up my table saw because the blade lift has been
>>>> very stiff. I've got it broken down but can't seem to get the
>>>> pivoting shaft out(where the problem lies)
>>>> Posted some pics in ABPW
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Also what do most here use to lube the trunnions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I typically use a penetrating oil on all of the turning and sliding
>>> surfaces under the table. With out disassemble.
>>
>> A can of spray dry-lube is your friend for this.
>
> I agree. Graphite is much better than oil - does not attract or hold
> sawdust (gum up).
>

BUT he has a near frozen situation, you need something to penetrate.
For normal maintenance I use TopCote on the gears and guides but
TopCote does not get in between the bearings and shafts very well. Then
I use something like Tiflon.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:52:36 -0600, Leon wrote:

> Then I use
> something like Tiflon.

Tiflon: Tiffany's teflon :-).

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:39:17 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:

> It's great on hinge pins. Pop the pin, spray the hinge holes, spray the
> pin, and tap it back in. Good for 5-7 non-squeaky years.

Hmmm. I've always used a silicone spray for that. But it only lasts a
year or two. I'll have to look for the Triflon - thanks.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:52:36 -0600, Leon wrote:

> Then I use
> something like Tiflon.

Tiflon: Tiffany's teflon :-).
=======================================================================
Triflon. Used to be Triflow when it first came out but I believe there was
some sort of copywrite problem.

On 2/23/2012 12:39 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Larry Blanchard" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:52:36 -0600, Leon wrote:
>
>> Then I use
>> something like Tiflon.
>
> Tiflon: Tiffany's teflon :-).
> =======================================================================
> Triflon. Used to be Triflow when it first came out but I believe there
> was some sort of copywrite problem.
>
>

Well I am apparently FOS. LOL My can of Triflon is actually TRIFLOW
w/Teflon. My can is about 5 years old.