JH

John Horner

27/11/2007 10:58 PM

Anyone using the Work Sharp 3000 tool sharpener ?

I've read many of the available online reviews in several forums and
this looks like it might be the kind of thing I'm looking for. Try as I
might I've never become an expert at sharpening hand tools. Perhaps I
just don't have the right Zen attitude for it.

I also like that they are actually built in the USA (Oregon) using as
many domestic parts as possible.


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charlieb

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

28/11/2007 8:55 PM

Maxwell Lol wrote:
>
> John Horner <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > I've read many of the available online reviews in several forums and
> > this looks like it might be the kind of thing I'm looking for.
>
> One problem some people here mentioned with a device similar to this one
> was that the inner section of the wheel moves slower than the outer.
> When sharpening plane irons - they tend to go out of square.
>
> I am not sure if that person ever resolved their problem - using a
> different technique, etc.

Now think that logic through a bit.

If the sides of the chisel or plane iron are extended up to intersect
the rotating plane of the spinning disk TANGENT to the circular
rotating disk (which is what the Bevel Fixture does - by design)
and
even though the "outside" of the edge of the chisel or plane iron is
seeing more feet per minute of abrassive that the "inside" edge is
seeing
then
the "outside" of the edge will be ground down
UNTIL
the "inside" of the edge makes contact with the abrassive and the
bevel is now flat and square to the sides of the chisel

From that point on the process repeats itself - but about 10 times
a second. If it goes out of square while properly placed in
the Bevel Fixture I sure as hell can't see it - and that's with a
machinist square, not an engineer square checking it - I
see NO light shining through between the edge and the square.

It might be a problem if you're freehanding using the tool post
and you just set the bevel down and hold it on top of the rotating
abrassive disk.

Check out my page on the WorkSharp WS3000. It may clear things
up - or not

http://web.hypersurf.com/~charlie2/Sharpening/WorksharpWS3000/WorkSharp1.html

charlie b

Bn

"BobS"

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

27/11/2007 10:54 PM


"John Horner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4i13j.10153$Mr.4466@trnddc04...
> I've read many of the available online reviews in several forums and this
> looks like it might be the kind of thing I'm looking for. Try as I might
> I've never become an expert at sharpening hand tools. Perhaps I just
> don't have the right Zen attitude for it.
>
> I also like that they are actually built in the USA (Oregon) using as many
> domestic parts as possible.

John,

No I don't have one but I did speak to a company rep about two weeks ago.
They also make the Drill Doctor which I do have.

Consider what your sharpening needs will consist of. If you plan on doing
12" portable planer or 6" jointer blades - it won't do it. Woodturning
tools (some grinds can't be done), chisels and hand plane blades is what
they push but even some of those can't be done. So look at all the tools
you expect to sharpen with it then call them and ask your questions
directly. They will tell you exactly what you can and can't expect from
either model. I've read someplace in one of the forums, that somebody came
up with a way to cut the sanding disks holes into discs you can purchase
cheaper than those "see-thru" slotted sanding/sharpening disks.

It's a good idea but it's not a do all sharpening system if that is what you
were expecting. They have a video on their site that is worth viewing.

Bob S.


nn

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

28/11/2007 10:10 AM

On Nov 27, 4:58 pm, John Horner <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've read many of the available online reviews in several >forums and
> this looks like it might be the kind of thing I'm looking >for. Try as I might I've never become an expert at >sharpening hand tools. Perhaps I just don't have the >right Zen attitude for it.

I a not sure this will work, but here's a really good look at the
newest version of the product.

http://tinyurl.com/2ljbc4

If that doesn't get you to the right thread, go to woodcentral.com,
click on "messages" on the left side under forums button. (Messages
is their general woodoworking forum). Scroll down to find the thread
on this machine once you are in "messages".

There is a full on test of the machine with chisels, and a ton of test
information, including pictures and the actual test pics. Plus a lot
of other input on the machine itself.
The review seems to be pretty honest and objective. I would certainly
trust a review like this more than I would some nitwit writing for the
birdcage flooring I see in the woodworking section of the magazine
rack.

Robert

BL

Bill Leonhardt

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

28/11/2007 11:52 AM

On Nov 27, 5:58 pm, John Horner <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've read many of the available online reviews in several forums and
> this looks like it might be the kind of thing I'm looking for. Try as I
> might I've never become an expert at sharpening hand tools. Perhaps I
> just don't have the right Zen attitude for it.
>
> I also like that they are actually built in the USA (Oregon) using as
> many domestic parts as possible.

John,

My woodworking club just did a bulk purchase of the WS3000 and I got
one. I don't have any hands-on experience yet, but I decided to buy
one on the the recommendation of some of the more learned members of
the club.

I hope me and my zen can get some experience over the Christmas
holidays.

Bill Leonhardt

ML

Maxwell Lol

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

27/11/2007 9:24 PM

John Horner <[email protected]> writes:

> I've read many of the available online reviews in several forums and
> this looks like it might be the kind of thing I'm looking for.

One problem some people here mentioned with a device similar to this one
was that the inner section of the wheel moves slower than the outer.
When sharpening plane irons - they tend to go out of square.

I am not sure if that person ever resolved their problem - using a
different technique, etc.

ML

Maxwell Lol

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

29/11/2007 6:34 AM

charlieb <[email protected]> writes:

> Check out my page on the WorkSharp WS3000. It may clear things
> up - or not

Thanks. I didn't know that the plane iron was tangent.
Didn't one of the other sharpeners orient the plane iron the other way?

JH

John Horner

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

29/11/2007 5:52 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Nov 27, 4:58 pm, John Horner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I've read many of the available online reviews in several >forums and
>> this looks like it might be the kind of thing I'm looking >for. Try as I might I've never become an expert at >sharpening hand tools. Perhaps I just don't have the >right Zen attitude for it.
>
> I a not sure this will work, but here's a really good look at the
> newest version of the product.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ljbc4
>

Thanks for the link, that is a really well written review. The WS300
sounds perfect for me. I want to get my chisels and plane's sharp with
the minimum fuss.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

22/01/2008 6:42 PM

"charlieb" wrote

> Check out my page on the WorkSharp WS3000. It may clear things
> up - or not
>
>
http://web.hypersurf.com/~charlie2/Sharpening/WorksharpWS3000/WorkSharp1.html

Thank you for that review of "scary sharp on steroids"!

Thanks to you, and the fact that the weather has been too nasty to do any
finishing, and my helper, who does an excellent job of carrying her end of
any piece of furniture you could care to move in and out of the shop, is out
of town, all my chisels and plane irons are now sharp!

You should ask for a raise! :)

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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

27/11/2007 5:04 PM

"John Horner" wrote

> might I've never become an expert at sharpening hand tools. Perhaps I
> just don't have the right Zen attitude for it.

Know the feeling ... haven't heard from anyone here who's had hands on yet.
It was on sale at the WoodCraft here in Houston last week for $199 ... good
thing I was out of town.


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Tim

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

29/11/2007 12:27 PM

On Nov 27, 5:58=EF=BF=BDpm, John Horner <[email protected]> wrote:

I've never become an expert at sharpening hand tools. =EF=BF=BDPerhaps I
> just don't have the right Zen attitude for it.

Or maybe you don't have one of these?

http://alisam.com/page/14n51/Sharpening.html

Tim

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

27/11/2007 7:35 PM

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:34:03 -0600, "dabears525"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Small gloat
>I just bought the Work Sharp 2000 last weekend. Northern Tool had it for
>$89.00
>less another 10% just on Friday.
>Anxious to try it out.

Don't forget to post your experiences.

dD

"dabears525"

in reply to John Horner on 27/11/2007 10:58 PM

27/11/2007 6:34 PM

Small gloat
I just bought the Work Sharp 2000 last weekend. Northern Tool had it for
$89.00
less another 10% just on Friday.
Anxious to try it out.


"John Horner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4i13j.10153$Mr.4466@trnddc04...
> I've read many of the available online reviews in several forums and this
> looks like it might be the kind of thing I'm looking for. Try as I might
> I've never become an expert at sharpening hand tools. Perhaps I just
> don't have the right Zen attitude for it.
>
> I also like that they are actually built in the USA (Oregon) using as many
> domestic parts as possible.


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