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Brad Stewart

25/04/2009 7:54 AM

Death by Nailgun!

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg

Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg


This topic has 39 replies

BB

Bored Borg

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 11:29 PM

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:14:03 +0100, Lee Michaels wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> Also, if you were to actually kill somebody with a nail gun, wouldn't nails
> to the heart prove to be faster and more efficient in getting the job done?
> Not that I have any actual experiene in these matters, of course.
>

Back of neck, sir. If your anatomy is dodgy you're more likely to cripple
than kill.. Any slaughtermen on this group?

Nail gun to head more likely used as torture than execution. Execution better
done with radial arm saw.

Make sure you wear goggles and ear defenders.

If you _really_ want to upset someone, rout out both his kidneys. Use a
backing board to prevent tear-out.

Bessey do a nice range of scrotum clamps. Soft-touch.. won't hurt your
thumbs.


Brain can be carved up quite a bit, normally (!) without causing too much
death. Gunshot to head causes severe shock and usually, scrambling from
bouncy-bouncy internal ricochet (safety slugs, hollowpoints, dum-dums).
Largely fatal. Of course point blank firearms just carry huge quantities of
brain along in the direction of the blast.. messy. Nail gun not usually going
to do this, methinks.

"The bank was held up with a sawn-off nail gun... Perpetrators seen running
off trailing a compressor on the end of 20 feet of air hose,,,}



Meanwhile... could this have been one of those self-harm things.. like a
really inept suicide? Was the "weapon" found ?



and, totally ridiculously..

While waiting for your wig glue to dry, just hold it in place with a few....

BB

Bored Borg

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 10:30 AM

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:57:00 +0100, Lee Michaels wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

>
> "Bored Borg" wrote
>>
>> Meanwhile... could this have been one of those self-harm things.. like a
>> really inept suicide? Was the "weapon" found ?
>>
> -------
> Not likely.
>
> One of the basic tests done to differentiate suicide from homicide is to
> simply see if the weapon could be held by the victim in that position. With
> the nails entering the back of the head, you would need a very long arm with
> an extra joint or two to point the nailgun to the back of your own head.
>
> I think homicide would be a logical conclusion here.
>
>
>

surely a simple time-travel device would get round THAT little problem?


More seriously, on my electric brad nailer I _could_ reach the back of my
head and trigger it with my thumb. I doubt I'd want to continue after the
first one, however.

I was thinking mire that death wouldn't be instantaneous and the deadguy
could have chucked the gun out of arms reach, or wandered a small distance
before expiring.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Bored Borg on 26/04/2009 10:30 AM

27/04/2009 10:11 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ef5761db-1835-4dc5-87e4-0bf394168780@y10g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> Crap!
>
> Next thing we know we will have to register nail guns and sign
> government forms when we buy nails. Lowe's employees will have to go
> through FTA training and personality testing. (some should anyway).
>
> RonB

And the nails will have micro stamped serial numbers tying them to your
registered nail gun with incremental counters so they can keep track of each
one...

r

in reply to Bored Borg on 26/04/2009 10:30 AM

27/04/2009 3:56 PM

Crap!

Next thing we know we will have to register nail guns and sign
government forms when we buy nails. Lowe's employees will have to go
through FTA training and personality testing. (some should anyway).

RonB

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to [email protected] on 27/04/2009 3:56 PM

27/04/2009 9:54 PM

[email protected] wrote:

> Crap!
>
> Next thing we know we will have to register nail guns and sign
> government forms when we buy nails. Lowe's employees will have to go
> through FTA training and personality testing. (some should anyway).
>
> RonB

Oooh, that could be bad, some of them would get a zero on that personality
thing for not having one.


--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

BB

Bored Borg

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 11:53 AM

Studio chiefs successfully cast the part of Nailhead in forthcoming
blockbuster Hellraiser - The Hong Kong Connection after an unknown actor
turned up in full costume, gave a flawless, agonized performance and then
totally disappeared leaving a baffled casting director and second unit
hairdresser.

"He kept stopping for aspirin" said baffled director Eliza Frupleskein, 27.

Baffled 42 year old studio security head, James Earl Smith said late last
night,"He rushed out of the studio lot without leaving a contact number. In
full makeup and costume. I'm completely baffled."

Director of Photography Alfred Stopcock, the famous 52 year old maker of such
classics as "Psychic" and "Dial P for Pizza" admitted to being completely
baffled. "The chap had the part completely nailed. Then he just ran out,
screaming. It's baffling."

"Alfred was going for drama" said Miss Frupelskein, 27. "To get the long dark
shadows he had the pin spots almost completely baffled."

continued on page 35...

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 1:52 PM


"Brad Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
> 27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
> died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
> police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
> shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
> discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>
> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg

Must of been oneof those automatic, military style nail guns.

I wonder what type of "accident" could have happened to cause that many
nails to enter the skull. He was obviously doing something very unsafe.

Good thing OSHA didn't see this. Can you imagine the regulations they could
impement as a result of this unfortunate "accident"?


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 4:14 PM


"Tim Douglass" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:37:42 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. Every
>>> one
>>> knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. Is there
>>such
>>> a thing?
>>
>>I doubt that the crime was committed by someone familiar with woodworking.
>>That many nails makes me think the person using it wasn't sure how many
>>would be needed to assuredly kill the victim.
>>
> I'm not sure what kind of woodworking you do, but I've been doing
> woodworking for 30+ years and I'm not sure that I know how many nails
> it would take to assuradly kill the victim. Your workplace is clearly
> different from any I've been around if that knowledge is part of your
> woodworking background! ;-)
>
> --
If I were to speculate, I would guess that the number of nails involved were
more than enough to get the job done. In fact, it was probably a crime of
passion and involved a lot of personal anger. Hence the numerous nails.
That most of the nails were shot after the victim was deceased.

Also, if you were to actually kill somebody with a nail gun, wouldn't nails
to the heart prove to be faster and more efficient in getting the job done?
Not that I have any actual experiene in these matters, of course.


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 6:57 PM


"Bored Borg" wrote
>
> Meanwhile... could this have been one of those self-harm things.. like a
> really inept suicide? Was the "weapon" found ?
>
-------
Not likely.

One of the basic tests done to differentiate suicide from homicide is to
simply see if the weapon could be held by the victim in that position. With
the nails entering the back of the head, you would need a very long arm with
an extra joint or two to point the nailgun to the back of your own head.

I think homicide would be a logical conclusion here.


RA

Robert Allison

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 9:35 AM

Leon wrote:
> "Brad Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>>
>>Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
>>27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
>>died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
>>police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
>>shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
>>discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>>
>>http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>
>
>
> Tragic story, funny reporting.
>
> As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. Every one
> knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. Is there such
> a thing?
> Imagine if he has been stabbed with a high-powered STICK.
>
>

It looks to me like it was one of those "assault" nailguns.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 3:31 AM

Gordon Shumway <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I bet it was Norm that did it. How many time have we heard him say
> "Just a few brads to hold it until the glue dries."
>
> Then we hear bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam!
>
>

That's the first skill I've mastered from Norm! I'm getting so good I
don't even need glue! ;-)

Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 8:59 AM

On Apr 25, 10:37=A0am, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. =A0 Ever=
y one
> > knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. =A0 Is ther=
e
> such
> > a thing?
>
> I doubt that the crime was committed by someone familiar with woodworking=
.
> That many nails makes me think the person using it wasn't sure how many
> would be needed to assuredly kill the victim.

I always would shake it off when I woke up feeling like that and have
a few more Rusty Nails, you know, a little hair of the dog....oh wait,
those are REAL nails?

I call shenanigans. PhotoShop. The media lies. Etc. Etc.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

27/04/2009 10:24 AM

On 25 Apr, 15:37, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

> That many nails makes me think the person using it wasn't sure how many
> would be needed to assuredly kill the victim.

That many nails isn't trying to kill someone, it's trying to hurt
someone you're really pissed off at (probably slowly), or to send a
message to his friends.

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

27/04/2009 9:52 PM

David G. Nagel wrote:

> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>> David G. Nagel wrote:
>>
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>> "David G. Nagel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> outlaw nailguns and pretty soon only outlaws will have nailguns.....
>>>>
>>>> Hell outlawing "outlaws" does not work what makes any one think that
>>>> outlawing guns would work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hell, ask any liberal, they will tell you that's the only way...
>>
>> Kind of funny, this crime was in Australia, a country that went bonkers
>> over gun confiscation (the real kind). Things were supposed to be all
>> unicorns and rainbows now that those eeevil guns have been taken off the
>> street, so howcum this crime happened?
>>
>> Could it be because those bent on mayhem are going to commit it
>> regardless
>> of laws? Nah, that couldn't be, that would be too sensible a
>> conclusion. It must be because nailguns *look* like guns (they have a
>> trigger and are
>> called "guns"). Thus the evil assault nailguns must be banned and more
>> sensible, less sinister "nail inserters" must be developed and sold.
>>
> They exist. They are called hammers. However they can develop a bad
> habit of killing people also. Some time ago in Lake County Indiana one
> hit an individual on the head 13 times. Coroner called it suicide...

I'd say that was one determined individual. (Or one evil hammer :-) )
--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 12:21 PM

Brad Stewart wrote:
> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>
> Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
> 27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
> died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
> police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
> shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
> discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>
> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg

D'you suppose they've ruled out suicide?

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 7:19 PM

David G. Nagel wrote:
> Robert Allison wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>> "Brad Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
>>>> 27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
>>>> died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
>>>> police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
>>>> shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
>>>> discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>>>>
>>>> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tragic story, funny reporting.
>>>
>>> As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details.
>>> Every one knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail
>>> gun. Is there such a thing?
>>> Imagine if he has been stabbed with a high-powered STICK.
>>>
>>
>> It looks to me like it was one of those "assault" nailguns.
>>
> outlaw nailguns and pretty soon only outlaws will have nailguns.....

Nailguns aren't the problem, only those who misuse them...

Could the perp be a carpenter named Brad?

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MO

Mike O.

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 7:54 PM

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:54:01 -0500, Brad Stewart <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
>27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
>died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
>police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
>shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
>discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.


Contractor vs. customer or customer vs. contractor...???

Mike O.

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 10:40 AM

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:12:25 -0500, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Tragic story, funny reporting.

The funniest news report I've ever seen was a local "on-the-scene"
interview where the interviewer asked one of those inane "how do you
feel" questions. The answer should be printed in large type and used
as wallpaper in every "newsroom" in the counter, "It's very annoying
that you spend so much effort analyzing things you don't know shit
about." Must have been a live, non-tape-delayed broadcast or they
surely wouldn't have let that be broadcast.

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 10:17 AM


"Tom Veatch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:12:25 -0500, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Tragic story, funny reporting.
>
> The funniest news report I've ever seen was a local "on-the-scene"
> interview where the interviewer asked one of those inane "how do you
> feel" questions. The answer should be printed in large type and used
> as wallpaper in every "newsroom" in the counter, "It's very annoying
> that you spend so much effort analyzing things you don't know shit
> about." Must have been a live, non-tape-delayed broadcast or they
> surely wouldn't have let that be broadcast.


4 always come to mind,

1. The excited anchor exclaimed "The airplane skidded into a crash"!
2. The on the scene reporter wearing yellow rubber boots and standing in a
2 inch deep pot hole filled with water blurts out, Water is beginning to
pond and it is becoming treacherous.
3. The "new" on the scene reporter desperate for words to fill the dead air
exclaims. You can see how much it has rained during the night by the amount
of water droplets that have accumulated on top of the cars!
4. On the NBC Today show. Matt Lauer was listening to an on the scene
reporter that was sitting in a canoe near a swollen creek/river. As she
was explaining the dangerous situation some one walked behind her in water
that was some where between ankle and knee deep. Had the canoe sunk, most
of it would still have been above water.

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 2:09 PM

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:57:07 -0500, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hell outlawing "outlaws" does not work what makes any one think that
>outlawing guns would work.

I can't answer the "why" but seems like there are an awful lot of
folks who do think that way.

With the concealed carry law in Kansas came the prohibition of same in
certain locations, i.e. banks. All of which have on the door a picture
of a handgun with a red slash informing all who enter that concealed
carry is prohibited on the premises. As a result, the prospective bank
robber is turned away at the door when he sees the sign and realizes
that he/she cannot carry the weapon into the bank.

Yeah, right!!

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 10:11 AM

On Apr 25, 10:35=A0am, Robert Allison <[email protected]> wrote:
> Leon wrote:
> > "Brad Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
>
> >>http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>
> >>Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
> >>27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
> >>died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
> >>police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
> >>shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
> >>discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>
> >>http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>
> > Tragic story, funny reporting.
>
> > As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. =A0 Ever=
y one
> > knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. =A0 Is ther=
e such
> > a thing?
> > Imagine if he has been stabbed with a high-powered STICK.
>
> It looks to me like it was one of those "assault" nailguns.
>
> --
> Robert Allison
> Rimshot, Inc.
> Georgetown, TX

That's funny right there.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 9:37 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. Every one
> knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. Is there
such
> a thing?

I doubt that the crime was committed by someone familiar with woodworking.
That many nails makes me think the person using it wasn't sure how many
would be needed to assuredly kill the victim.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 8:12 AM


"Brad Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>
> Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
> 27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
> died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
> police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
> shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
> discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>
> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg


Tragic story, funny reporting.

As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. Every one
knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. Is there such
a thing?
Imagine if he has been stabbed with a high-powered STICK.

Ll

"LD"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 4:17 AM

"Bored Borg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:14:03 +0100, Lee Michaels wrote
> (in article <[email protected]>):
>
>> Also, if you were to actually kill somebody with a nail gun, wouldn't
>> nails
>> to the heart prove to be faster and more efficient in getting the job
>> done?
>> Not that I have any actual experiene in these matters, of course.
>>
>
> Back of neck, sir. If your anatomy is dodgy you're more likely to cripple
> than kill.. Any slaughtermen on this group?
>
> Nail gun to head more likely used as torture than execution. Execution
> better
> done with radial arm saw.
>
> Make sure you wear goggles and ear defenders.
>
> If you _really_ want to upset someone, rout out both his kidneys. Use a
> backing board to prevent tear-out.
>
> Bessey do a nice range of scrotum clamps. Soft-touch.. won't hurt your
> thumbs.
>
>
> Brain can be carved up quite a bit, normally (!) without causing too much
> death. Gunshot to head causes severe shock and usually, scrambling from
> bouncy-bouncy internal ricochet (safety slugs, hollowpoints, dum-dums).
> Largely fatal. Of course point blank firearms just carry huge quantities
> of
> brain along in the direction of the blast.. messy. Nail gun not usually
> going
> to do this, methinks.
>
> "The bank was held up with a sawn-off nail gun... Perpetrators seen
> running
> off trailing a compressor on the end of 20 feet of air hose,,,}

Or compressorless guns ...

MH

"Martin H. Eastburn"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

27/04/2009 8:50 PM

Turn in nail guns for a Mac Burger coupon or something...
Crime is crime. Go get the crime guys and gals.

Martin

Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 25 Apr, 15:37, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That many nails makes me think the person using it wasn't sure how many
>> would be needed to assuredly kill the victim.
>
> That many nails isn't trying to kill someone, it's trying to hurt
> someone you're really pissed off at (probably slowly), or to send a
> message to his friends.

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 12:20 PM


"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> David G. Nagel wrote:
>> Robert Allison wrote:
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>> "Brad Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
>>>>> 27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
>>>>> died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
>>>>> police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
>>>>> shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
>>>>> discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tragic story, funny reporting.
>>>>
>>>> As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. Every
>>>> one knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. Is
>>>> there such a thing?
>>>> Imagine if he has been stabbed with a high-powered STICK.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It looks to me like it was one of those "assault" nailguns.
>>>
>> outlaw nailguns and pretty soon only outlaws will have nailguns.....
>
> Nailguns aren't the problem, only those who misuse them...
>
> Could the perp be a carpenter named Brad?
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Brad Nayler?


RC

Robatoy

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 5:24 PM

On Apr 26, 3:09=A0pm, Tom Veatch <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:57:07 -0500, "Leon"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hell outlawing "outlaws" does not work what makes any one think that
> >outlawing guns would work.
>
> I can't answer the "why" but seems like there are an awful lot of
> folks who do think that way.
>
> With the concealed carry law in Kansas came the prohibition of same in
> certain locations, i.e. banks. All of which have on the door a picture
> of a handgun with a red slash informing all who enter that concealed
> carry is prohibited on the premises. As a result, the prospective bank
> robber is turned away at the door when he sees the sign and realizes
> that he/she cannot carry the weapon into the bank.
>
> Yeah, right!!
>
Oh suuure!! LOL. That reminds me of a routine that comedian Kelly
Monteith did years ago. A jewelry store gets robbed and the store
owner runs after the thief and yells: "STOP THIEF!!!"
The thief, of course, hears this and stops?

ee

evodawg

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 7:03 AM

Brad Stewart wrote:

> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>
> Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
> 27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
> died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
> police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
> shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
> discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>
> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg

Guess you could say he was Nailed. Maybe he was nailing the guys wife. Looks
like someone was trying to make a statement.

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scritch

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 7:58 AM

Upscale wrote:
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. Every one
>> knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. Is there
> such
>> a thing?
>
> I doubt that the crime was committed by someone familiar with woodworking.
> That many nails makes me think the person using it wasn't sure how many
> would be needed to assuredly kill the victim.
>
>
Or he was one of those US interrogators who applied waterboarding to
Khalid Sheik Mohammed 183 times in one month. Guess he didn't know how
"effective" waterboarding is supposed to be, just like the nailgunner
didn't know that one nail would be sufficient.

FS

Frank Stutzman

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 3:00 PM

Upscale <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I doubt that the crime was committed by someone familiar with woodworking.
> That many nails makes me think the person using it wasn't sure how many
> would be needed to assuredly kill the victim.

Maybe the news got it wrong and it was just a brad nailer. The perp probably
used so many because he was 'waiting for the glue to dry'

--
Frank Stutzman

lL

[email protected] (Larry W)

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 6:02 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
evodawg <[email protected]> wrote:
>Brad Stewart wrote:
>
>> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
<...snipped...>
>
>Guess you could say he was Nailed. Maybe he was nailing the guys wife. Looks
>like someone was trying to make a statement.
>
>--

Hit the nail on the head, I would say...


--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

GS

Gordon Shumway

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 9:56 AM

I bet it was Norm that did it. How many time have we heard him say
"Just a few brads to hold it until the glue dries."

Then we hear bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam!


On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:37:42 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I doubt that the crime was committed by someone familiar with woodworking.
>That many nails makes me think the person using it wasn't sure how many
>would be needed to assuredly kill the victim.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 9:57 AM


"David G. Nagel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
> outlaw nailguns and pretty soon only outlaws will have nailguns.....


Hell outlawing "outlaws" does not work what makes any one think that
outlawing guns would work.

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 11:21 AM

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:37:42 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. Every one
>> knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. Is there
>such
>> a thing?
>
>I doubt that the crime was committed by someone familiar with woodworking.
>That many nails makes me think the person using it wasn't sure how many
>would be needed to assuredly kill the victim.
>
I'm not sure what kind of woodworking you do, but I've been doing
woodworking for 30+ years and I'm not sure that I know how many nails
it would take to assuradly kill the victim. Your workplace is clearly
different from any I've been around if that knowledge is part of your
woodworking background! ;-)

--
Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

I started out with nothing and after years of hard work have finally managed to double it!

DG

"David G. Nagel"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

27/04/2009 1:15 AM

Mark & Juanita wrote:
> David G. Nagel wrote:
>
>> Leon wrote:
>>> "David G. Nagel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> outlaw nailguns and pretty soon only outlaws will have nailguns.....
>>>
>>> Hell outlawing "outlaws" does not work what makes any one think that
>>> outlawing guns would work.
>>>
>>>
>> Hell, ask any liberal, they will tell you that's the only way...
>
> Kind of funny, this crime was in Australia, a country that went bonkers
> over gun confiscation (the real kind). Things were supposed to be all
> unicorns and rainbows now that those eeevil guns have been taken off the
> street, so howcum this crime happened?
>
> Could it be because those bent on mayhem are going to commit it regardless
> of laws? Nah, that couldn't be, that would be too sensible a conclusion.
> It must be because nailguns *look* like guns (they have a trigger and are
> called "guns"). Thus the evil assault nailguns must be banned and more
> sensible, less sinister "nail inserters" must be developed and sold.
>
They exist. They are called hammers. However they can develop a bad
habit of killing people also. Some time ago in Lake County Indiana one
hit an individual on the head 13 times. Coroner called it suicide...

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 2:01 PM

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:52:21 -0400, Lee Michaels wrote:

>
> "Brad Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
>> 27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
>> died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
>> police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
>> shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
>> discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>>
>> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>
> Must of been oneof those automatic, military style nail guns.
>
> I wonder what type of "accident" could have happened to cause that many
> nails to enter the skull. He was obviously doing something very unsafe.
>
> Good thing OSHA didn't see this. Can you imagine the regulations they could
> impement as a result of this unfortunate "accident"?

A NailStop?
;-)
--
Froz...

DG

"David G. Nagel"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 1:47 PM

Leon wrote:
> "David G. Nagel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> outlaw nailguns and pretty soon only outlaws will have nailguns.....
>
>
> Hell outlawing "outlaws" does not work what makes any one think that
> outlawing guns would work.
>
>
Hell, ask any liberal, they will tell you that's the only way...

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

26/04/2009 8:22 PM

David G. Nagel wrote:

> Leon wrote:
>> "David G. Nagel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> outlaw nailguns and pretty soon only outlaws will have nailguns.....
>>
>>
>> Hell outlawing "outlaws" does not work what makes any one think that
>> outlawing guns would work.
>>
>>
> Hell, ask any liberal, they will tell you that's the only way...

Kind of funny, this crime was in Australia, a country that went bonkers
over gun confiscation (the real kind). Things were supposed to be all
unicorns and rainbows now that those eeevil guns have been taken off the
street, so howcum this crime happened?

Could it be because those bent on mayhem are going to commit it regardless
of laws? Nah, that couldn't be, that would be too sensible a conclusion.
It must be because nailguns *look* like guns (they have a trigger and are
called "guns"). Thus the evil assault nailguns must be banned and more
sensible, less sinister "nail inserters" must be developed and sold.

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

DG

"David G. Nagel"

in reply to Brad Stewart on 25/04/2009 7:54 AM

25/04/2009 6:43 PM

Robert Allison wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> "Brad Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>>>
>>> Australian police are still searching for clues in the death of
>>> 27-year-old Chen (Anthony) Liu, whom homicide squad detectives believe
>>> died from injuries sustained from a high-powered nail gun. In this
>>> police handout image made available April 24, 2009, the X-ray clearly
>>> shows 34 nails embedded in Chen's skull. Chen's decomposing body was
>>> discovered in Sydney's Georges River in November 2008.
>>>
>>> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_nailgun_x-ray_090424_ssh.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> Tragic story, funny reporting.
>>
>> As you would expect, the reporter has to spice up the details. Every
>> one knows about high-powered guns, but "High-powered" nail gun. Is
>> there such a thing?
>> Imagine if he has been stabbed with a high-powered STICK.
>>
>
> It looks to me like it was one of those "assault" nailguns.
>
outlaw nailguns and pretty soon only outlaws will have nailguns.....


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