ADA requires 1" in 12". Every 20 feet requires a 4' resting spot. All
turns require a 5' turning circle. ADA requires a 1 1/2" handrail that
is 1 1/2" out from the mounting surface. ADA requires a "curb" to
prevent a chair from going off the edge.
UBC (Uniform Building Code) requires handrails if the slope exceeds 1"
in 20". If you can fall more than 30" UBC requires 42" fall
protection. It may also require "non climbable" closure that can pass
the 4" ball rule (a 4" ball cannot pass through any opening). The
exception here is a 6" ball at the apex of the riser/tread intersection.
We live in interesting times for builders and carpenters. How did so
many of us survive into our fifties?
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Keep the whole world singing. . .
Dan G
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"Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "David J Bockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Current ada guidelines are: a 'ramp' is between 5.00-8.33% slope.
With
> every
> > 30" of rise, one should have a 5 foot landing (flat, or with a
slight
> pitch
> > of 1% if drainage is an issue, but you get the idea). If you have
> > switchbacks, it's a good idea to have those areas flat as well, and
> > sufficiently roomy to allow for maneuvering. Hope thise helps--
> >
> > Dave
>
> Give the slope in inches fall per foot, as many of the carpenters have
no
> idea of how to figure % slope.
> --
> Jim in NC
>
>
Sat, Nov 1, 2003, 1:53am (EST+5) [email protected] (Not=A0Telling) says:
Help! Need plans for a wheel chair ramp for house front door. One that
is temporary perhaps or one I can adap as temporary. And any insights
from anyone.
You will need to sift thru these, to see what's best suited.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&lr=3D&ie=3DISO-8859-1&q=3D%22WHEELCHA=
IR+RAMP+PLANS%22
You might also look thru what there is for temporary wheelchair
ramp plans, and portable wheelchair ramps. If you look for just ramps,
you're gonna get a lot of skatebording stuff.
JOAT
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from human beings as possible.
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Not Telling wrote:
> Help! Need plans for a wheel chair ramp for house front door. One that is
> temporary perhaps or one I can adap as temporary. And any insights from
> anyone.
>
> Thanks to all.......
For a bunch of useful information including plans for a modular ramp see:
http://www.wheelchairramp.org/
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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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This one looks great for country where it doesn't snow. Snow needs
drainage.
I'd like to suggest two design criteria and a suggestion based on my own
specialty.
1) Switchbacks need extra room, not just a right angle. The ambulance cot
has a footprint of about (not at work, can't say precisely) 42x16 inches.
The diagonal of about 60 inches has to make it around the corner. Make a
generous landing.
2) If room will not permit a generous landing, keep the outside rail low so
the head end of the cot can clear it.
And/Or keep a second straight ahead non-handicapped entrance clear inside
and shoveled outside for your ambulance crew.
"Thomas Kendrick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> See http://www.dallasramps.org/HowTo/HowTo.htm
>
> Pitch of 1/12, if the length exceeds 20', probably want to include
> some level sections 4' in length to rest. Turns and switchbacks are
> usually level as well.
> We use all PT material, 2x6 frames, 2x4 rails and curbs, 3/4" ply
> deck, 4x4 for legs.
Longer is generally better. If you have space enough for a 1:16 or 1:20
slope, go for it. Much easier to push or roll up a 1:20 than a 1: 12 slope.
My in-laws had one built by the neighborhood handyman. Its a joke! Might
be 1:8 maybe 1:10 at best. Was ok, but just, when Father-in-law was on
crutches. Now that he is in a wheel chair, he cannot roll himself up as it
is too steep. I have a tough time pushing him myself. They won't let us
rebuild it as their "handyman" said it was the just fine when he built it in
94. Mother-in-law says, "and _he_ should know!" (that's right, he _should_
have but he sure didn't)
Make it as long as you can.
DexAZ
"Not Telling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Help! Need plans for a wheel chair ramp for house front door. One that
is
> temporary perhaps or one I can adap as temporary. And any insights from
> anyone.
>
> Thanks to all.......
>
>
Must also have handrails no wider than 1-1/2", Check with ADA. They
ARE the source of all this. American Disabilities Act.
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:54:53 -0500, "Morgans"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"David J Bockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:goNob.31716$%[email protected]...
>> Current ada guidelines are: a 'ramp' is between 5.00-8.33% slope. With
>every
>> 30" of rise, one should have a 5 foot landing (flat, or with a slight
>pitch
>> of 1% if drainage is an issue, but you get the idea). If you have
>> switchbacks, it's a good idea to have those areas flat as well, and
>> sufficiently roomy to allow for maneuvering. Hope thise helps--
>>
>> Dave
>
>Give the slope in inches fall per foot, as many of the carpenters have no
>idea of how to figure % slope.
http://myweb.cableone.net/andya/00porchramp.jpg
Here's a ramp we built from one sheet of 3/4" CDX, some 2x2's and 2x4's. The
ramp is 8' long and rises 14". Too steep for unassisted wheel chair use, but
fine if somebody pushes up and braces down. The ramp is portable and when
we're finished with it we intent to donate to a local charity.
The ramp was primed and painted with leftover housepaint, the deck has sand
mixed into the paint for traction. Even wet or snow covered it isn't
slippery. Haven't seen any significant ice form because the water sheds
pretty well.
If you want I could upend the beast and send a picture of the underside
structure, which is simple.
Andy
"Not Telling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Help! Need plans for a wheel chair ramp for house front door. One that
is
> temporary perhaps or one I can adap as temporary. And any insights from
> anyone.
>
> Thanks to all.......
>
>
"Dan G" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<11Rob.50886$iq3.4203@okepread01>...
> ADA requires 1" in 12". Every 20 feet requires a 4' resting spot. All
> turns require a 5' turning circle. ADA requires a 1 1/2" handrail that
> is 1 1/2" out from the mounting surface. ADA requires a "curb" to
> prevent a chair from going off the edge.
The curb is _very_ improtant if there is no railing.
Another consideration if there is no space for a ramp is an
electric wheelchair lift. A few years back they were about
$5,000 (I think). What I recall for sure is that the lift
was only a little more expensive than the ramp proposed by the
contractor which woudl have occupied half the garage, blocked
access to cabinets, and still would have been too steep and
had insufficient space ont he switchbacks to be safe.
It is important to keep in mind that what is adequate for now
might not be adequate in a few years as the patient comes to
need more equipment or as the caregiver ages.
--
FF
Sun, Nov 2, 2003, 10:03am (EST-3) [email protected]
(Fred=A0the=A0Red=A0Shirt) says:
<snip> electric wheelchair lift. <snip> about $5,000 (I think).<snip>
Well, on the right track anyway. The guy only wants something
temporary, so $5K is a bit more than temporary. I think they have
someting around $500, and you should be able to sell it and recoup good
part of that I'm thinking, if you want to buy.
But, I'm thining a tool rental place mght have something like that
you could rent. Worth checking on.
Or, do it yourself. You could always buy a truck with one of these
installed.
http://www.benco-equipment.com/products/tommygate/tommy_gate_pickup_lift.h=
tm
If it was a wrecked truck, you could take the parts off, and fab a
lift easily enough. Or, get a running truck, use it for the lift, and
sell it when you didn't need it any more. Or, keep it as a wood hauler.
I would opt for some sort of a lift if it was me in a wheelchair.
And then a ramp for going down, with about a 12" drop for every 12",
then a long ramp when it leveled out. Hehehehe
Or, it would be simple enough to make a cage, and use an electric
winch, or chain hoist, to haul it up and down. If you didn't want to
keep it after you didn't need it anymore, you could probably sell it for
more than you have invested. Hell, you could even use a winch to pull a
chair up a ramp, I know I wouldn't care to have to wheel myself up a
ramp every time I wanted in the house.
Or, fit a wheel chair with treads, and to Hell with a ramp, just
drive right up, and down, the steps. Get one of those irritating little
Hondas, pull the front drive train, put a real muffler on it, narrow it
some, fit it to a wheel chair. Boggles the mind. LMAO
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Current ada guidelines are: a 'ramp' is between 5.00-8.33% slope. With every
30" of rise, one should have a 5 foot landing (flat, or with a slight pitch
of 1% if drainage is an issue, but you get the idea). If you have
switchbacks, it's a good idea to have those areas flat as well, and
sufficiently roomy to allow for maneuvering. Hope thise helps--
Dave
"Not Telling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Help! Need plans for a wheel chair ramp for house front door. One that
is
> temporary perhaps or one I can adap as temporary. And any insights from
> anyone.
>
> Thanks to all.......
>
>
Here's a link where they built on one of HGTV's shows.
http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/ah_personal_care_safety/article/0%2C%2CHGTV_3149_1397397%2C00.html
--
Mike S.
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"Not Telling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Help! Need plans for a wheel chair ramp for house front door. One that
is
> temporary perhaps or one I can adap as temporary. And any insights from
> anyone.
>
> Thanks to all.......
>
>
See http://www.dallasramps.org/HowTo/HowTo.htm
Pitch of 1/12, if the length exceeds 20', probably want to include
some level sections 4' in length to rest. Turns and switchbacks are
usually level as well.
We use all PT material, 2x6 frames, 2x4 rails and curbs, 3/4" ply
deck, 4x4 for legs.
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 01:53:45 GMT, "Not Telling" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Help! Need plans for a wheel chair ramp for house front door. One that is
>temporary perhaps or one I can adap as temporary. And any insights from
>anyone.
>
>Thanks to all.......
>
"David J Bockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:goNob.31716$%[email protected]...
> Current ada guidelines are: a 'ramp' is between 5.00-8.33% slope. With
every
> 30" of rise, one should have a 5 foot landing (flat, or with a slight
pitch
> of 1% if drainage is an issue, but you get the idea). If you have
> switchbacks, it's a good idea to have those areas flat as well, and
> sufficiently roomy to allow for maneuvering. Hope thise helps--
>
> Dave
Give the slope in inches fall per foot, as many of the carpenters have no
idea of how to figure % slope.
--
Jim in NC
I don't know exactly what is *required* for ADA or OSHA, but IIRC, then the
ramp has to be at least 36" wide, more is better and I think a 1:12 pitch.
If you have an outward opening door at an entry, the landing must be at
least 36" (again, prolly more) beyond the arc of the door swing. If your
front door is above grade level by any significant amount, you'll need to
make a return so that you don't have 40 freekin' feet of ramp in your yard.
Also think about a secondary means of entry/egress in the event of an
emergency.
If you need this to be to code, check w/your building dept or perhaps get a
referral through a senior center or hospice. That, or go find a place that
has ramps and take yr tape measure for some rules of thumb.
I took care of my folks, both in 'chairs, for years... so I know it can be a
drag for all concerned. I hope this helps and am glad to hear that your
situation is temporary.....
John Moorhead
Lakeport, CA
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> Help! Need plans for a wheel chair ramp for house front door. One that
is
> temporary perhaps or one I can adap as temporary. And any insights from
> anyone.
>
> Thanks to all.......
>
>