"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:13:19 -0500, James wrote:
>
>> Hi Group, Is there and easy way to dissolve hide glue. We need to take
>> some wood chairs apart to repair them. Thanks, Jim
>
> Injecting alcohol into the joint will work if you can get enough in
> there, but the steam method others have suggested works well also. But
> too much steam can warp/damage the surrounding wood. I've heard of
> wrapping everything around the joint with waterproof tape, but only if
> you're going to refinish the chair anyway.
>
> --
> Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
If the objective is to try and reactivate the glue after repairing the
joint, then steam or heat is the way to go. I like using alcohol but that
causes the glue to denature and crystallize making it fail so the joint can
be disassembled. The residual glue must be then removed and fresh glue
added to reglue the joint.
Good Luck.
In article <[email protected]>,
no_email_please@void_void.void says...
> Michael Joel wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
> > three corks (A, B, C) (whichever is cork C needs to fit tightly into the
> > kettle spout),
>
> Correction (sorry) that should of course be
> (whichever is cork B needs to fit tightly into the kettle spout)
This may seem a bit naive since I missed the original question, but
wouldn't injecting alcohol into the joint crystallize the glue and break
the adhesive bond?
James wrote:
> Hi Group, Is there and easy way to dissolve hide glue. We need to take
> some wood chairs apart to repair them. Thanks, Jim
>
You can make a simple steam injector with a teakettle (this was
something I saw in an old woodworking book).
Get
three corks (A, B, C) (whichever is cork C needs to fit tightly into the
kettle spout),
maybe a couple of feet of tubing (1/2" might work well),
a needle tip (large kind used for gluing or such),
Drill a hole in two corks (A and B) to fit the tube snug.
Drill a hole HALF way through the last cork (C) the same as the other corks.
Push tube through the cork A until enough protrudes to place cork C on
(both corks should touch). Push the tube into cork B (can push enough
through so it comes out the other side a little).
Place cork B into the spout of the teakettle. Insert the needle into
cord C so the steam flowing from the kettle through the tube can come
out the needle.
Now just drill a small hole in the joint large enough for the needle and
the steam should dissolve the bond.
The whole can be filled and sanded so it wont be noticed.
phorbin wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> no_email_please@void_void.void says...
>
>>Michael Joel wrote:
>>
>><SNIP>
>> > three corks (A, B, C) (whichever is cork C needs to fit tightly into the
>>
>>>kettle spout),
>>
>>Correction (sorry) that should of course be
>>(whichever is cork B needs to fit tightly into the kettle spout)
>
>
> This may seem a bit naive since I missed the original question, but
> wouldn't injecting alcohol into the joint crystallize the glue and break
> the adhesive bond?
Yes, it should. Of course if the chair has shellac it will also dissolve
any finish that it touches - but then a lot of steam won't help it any
either.
On 7/24/2012 3:13 PM, James wrote:
> Hi Group, Is there and easy way to dissolve hide glue. We need to take
> some wood chairs apart to repair them. Thanks, Jim
Heat, basically.
Above about 140-145F if it is indeed old hide glue it will tend to
reliquify and let go.
An iron w/ damp cloth is generally the toolset of choice...
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:13:19 -0500, James wrote:
> Hi Group, Is there and easy way to dissolve hide glue. We need to take
> some wood chairs apart to repair them. Thanks, Jim
Injecting alcohol into the joint will work if you can get enough in
there, but the steam method others have suggested works well also. But
too much steam can warp/damage the surrounding wood. I've heard of
wrapping everything around the joint with waterproof tape, but only if
you're going to refinish the chair anyway.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw