On Jun 26, 5:00 pm, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've built three down through the years, the latest just this past December:
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects12.htm
>
> ... and in each case I fully line the entire chest, including the underside
> of the lid.
>
> IMO, this is what makes it a "cedar" chest, even though the aromatic cedar
> is a "secondary" wood.
>
> That said, dadiOH is right on in saying that the client should be the one to
> make the final decision ... but only after you make known to them that the
> cedar aroma will most definitely diminish with age (although it can be
> refreshed for many years to come with just a light sanding).
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 6/1/07
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Thanks to all who have responded - (T&E should have been T&G (tongue
and groove))
Some very good ideas on how to deal with the situation.
Very nice chest Swingman. I'll try to remember to post some pictures
when my project is done.
Thanks again!
Tue, Jun 26, 2007, 12:46pm (EDT-3) From: [email protected] (LesT)
I'm building a cedar chest for a client and was going to line the
bottom, sides and ends with T&E cedar. However, they have heard that
doing it that way would yield too strong an aroma. Should just the
bottom be lined? What is your experience? Thanks in advance for your
suggestions...
It's early, and I haven't finished by cuppa yet, so what's T&E?
If you line it with cedar, it isn't a cedar chest, it's a chest lined
with cedar. My experience is, a cedar chest is made out of cedar. If
you're that worried about it, send the extra cedar to me, as a sacrifice
for the Woodworking Gods.
JOAT
If a man does his best, what else is there?
- General George S. Patton
LesT wrote:
> I'm building a cedar chest for a client and was going to line the
> bottom, sides and ends with T&E cedar. However, they have heard that
> doing it that way would yield too strong an aroma. Should just the
> bottom be lined? What is your experience? Thanks in advance for your
> suggestions...
Do it the way they want it. Won't be a cedar chest but that's their
problem. I wonder if they have heard that the odor diminishes -
markedly - over time (it does).
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"LesT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm building a cedar chest for a client and was going to line the
> bottom, sides and ends with T&E cedar. However, they have heard that
> doing it that way would yield too strong an aroma. Should just the
> bottom be lined? What is your experience? Thanks in advance for your
> suggestions...
>
> Les
Line it with T & G cedar, let them smell it, if it is too strong go to
wal-mart and get a can of thier cheap clear plastic spray finish and spray
it on the cedar, it will kill the cedar smell. When the cedar smell fades,
which it will, a light sanding will bring it back.>
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:46:14 -0700, LesT <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm building a cedar chest for a client and was going to line the
>bottom, sides and ends with T&E cedar. However, they have heard that
>doing it that way would yield too strong an aroma.
It's the client's call in the end (even when they're wrong), but you can
advise and educate them.
If you're a factory, timber costs are important. If you're doing one-off
handwork though, you should be charging enough that you don't have to
worry about this (if the trees are getting paid more than you are,
you're under-pricing yourself). So don't cut corners just to save
timber.
If you're using Spanish cedar for a humidor, you line it. You line it
because it's a lining for humidity reasons, not for the smell. Little
inlays just don't do it.
If you're using a "typical cedar", i.e. anything other than true Lebanon
cedar, then you're not going to over-do the smell no matter how much you
use.
_Possibly_, if you were using Lebanon (which no-one can find or afford
anyway, unless it's storm damage) then there might be an "excess"
argument here. Otherwise it's just not an issue.
There's also no reason _to_ fully line a cedar chest. It's not a lining,
it's a smell-producing lump big enough to do the job. Just throw a
wooden brick in there and it's functionally the same thing.
Personally I fully line my small boxes (usually with lime, as I can't
get Japanese timbers or Paulownia) but I don't fully line big chests
with cedar. This is for mechanical reasons. I do usually line the floor
of a big chest with cedar and that's quite sufficient to give as much
aroma as you might want for linens. Lining the lid too is a good idea,
because otherwise the customer can't smell it so easily when it's full
of sweaters, even if the moths still can. I've also used frame and panel
constuction chests where I've doubled the panels and used cedar on the
inside within an oak frame. I've not yet made (and don't plan to make) a
big clothes-storage chest with a full-surface cedar lining inside it.
"LesT" wrote in message
> I'm building a cedar chest for a client and was going to line the
> bottom, sides and ends with T&E cedar. However, they have heard that
> doing it that way would yield too strong an aroma. Should just the
> bottom be lined? What is your experience? Thanks in advance for your
> suggestions...
I've built three down through the years, the latest just this past December:
http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects12.htm
... and in each case I fully line the entire chest, including the underside
of the lid.
IMO, this is what makes it a "cedar" chest, even though the aromatic cedar
is a "secondary" wood.
That said, dadiOH is right on in saying that the client should be the one to
make the final decision ... but only after you make known to them that the
cedar aroma will most definitely diminish with age (although it can be
refreshed for many years to come with just a light sanding).
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)