As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
My favorite shots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171225/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171007/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170833/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170313/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170313/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485169773/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485169533/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
On 12/10/2011 8:28 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> Leon wrote:
>> The 26
>> drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers that I built
>> this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>
> 98 drawers, eh? You would think that the women folk would run out of
> things to put in those numerous drawers.
>
> Looks good Leon. If the builder doesn't give you a pantry, Leon will
> build one!
>
>
>
Thank you
Well those 98 drawers were for 7 different jobs.
There are several new homes in the neighborhood with our floor plan, I
am hoping to perhaps build the pantry again and again and.... I just
need to show it off now.
On 12/10/2011 7:20 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Nice job Leon, nice pulls, nice contrast in colors.
>
> I was looking at the other photos in your album. The quilted box caught
> my eye, because when I look at the unfinished version it looks very
> flat, but the finished version has radiused edges on the pieces. Was the
> unfinished not glued, and just set in place? I like the effect of the
> radiused edges, nice work.
>
Thank you! Correct observations on the finished quilted box but the
pieces were in fact glued in place. I sorat kinda like the flat piece
look also.
On 12/10/2011 10:21 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 12/10/2011 8:28 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> Leon wrote:
>>> The 26
>>> drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers that I built
>>> this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>>
>> 98 drawers, eh? You would think that the women folk would run out of
>> things to
>> put in those numerous drawers.
>
> Heh, that's a good one. You were joking, right? :-)
>
No kidding, I did similar small drawers in out other house but only 10
and those were filled in short order. That was in addition to the 8
regular drawers and 3, 36" wide drawers.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
>that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
>My favorite shots:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
How does one see into the top four, hmm?
--
A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description
of a happy state in this world.
-- John Locke
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
In this house, the kitchen is MINE.
--
Woodworking and more at <http://www.woodenwabbits.com>
In article <[email protected]>, Doug
Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/12/2011 01:10 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article<[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
> >> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
> >
> > In this house, the kitchen is MINE.
> >
>
> Your feet must be smaller than hers ;-)
Nope... She's just not a very good cook. I am.
--
Woodworking and more at <http://www.woodenwabbits.com>
In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/12/11 11:17 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article<[email protected]>, Doug
> > Winterburn<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/12/2011 01:10 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> >>> In article<[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
> >>>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
> >>>
> >>> In this house, the kitchen is MINE.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Your feet must be smaller than hers ;-)
> >
> > Nope... She's just not a very good cook. I am.
> >
> Watch out for the day she says she is no good at doing the laundry. :-)
Everyone shares the household chores (like laundry) around here. As my
shop is just off the laundry room, it's an easy thing for me to handle.
The kids do their own.
--
Woodworking and more at <http://www.woodenwabbits.com>
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:34:35 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry
>Jaques wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/12/2011 10:26 PM, Dave wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> >>>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
> >>>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
> >>>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
> >>>
> >>>> Well Thank you Bill!
> >>>
> >>> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
> >>> else you make has to match this piece.
> >>>
> >>> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
> >>> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
> >>> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
> >>> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
> >>> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
> >>> not.<???>
> >>
> >> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
> >> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
> >> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
> >> large scale. ;!)
> >
> > Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
> > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
> >
> > Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
> > A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
> > luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
> > Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
> > best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
> >
> > Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>
>The kitchen cabinets had to follow the bedroom suite towers.
>;~) I'll blame the spell checker.
Bedroom suite, hotel suite, dining room suite, OK.
Follow suit, OK.
> >> I do enjoy the room although I have so darn busy since we moved in 12
> >> months ago I have not really had a chance to put things where they need
> >> to be. That task began today by relocating the freezer. Later this
> >
> > I hope it's a very recently purchased freezer. The old ones suck
> > energy like they were going out of style.
>
>About 3 years old at the time, we lefo out 20_ year old on with my son
>and brought my dad's freezer over.
You did him a disservice. He would have cheaper lease payments than
what the old boxes cost in electricity every month.
> >> week a few other items will be relocated and I hope to finally move my
> >> lumber stash from the old house to the new one. Thank heavens our son
> >> bought our older house so we were not rushed to move although I think he
> >> may be getting a bit tired of waiting. LOL
> >
> > Don't worry. I think he knows how slowly old people get around to
> > doing things.
>
>Yeah he plays that card a lot.
<g>
> > Are you guys as dead in the winter as I am? I have a LifeAlert
> > installation today and 2-3 hours on Friday with an old client, with
> > one hour put in last week. That's it for the month so far.<sigh>
>
>I have 3 maybe 4 customers waiting for me to start up again. I'm on
>break till after Christmas.
Must be nice to be rich enough for a new house and a month or two off.
--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:05:22 -0700, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:48:04 -0700, "Max" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's probably the whole story right there. Most people think $39.99
>>>> is thirty nine bucks. I call it forty.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I always thought it was 39 bucks and 99 cents.
>>>
>>>Max (take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care of
>>>themselves)
>>
>> If I saved all the pennies from those sale prices over the past 40
>> years, I could probably buy a new, um, CD or something.
>>
>
>I aim for accuracy; I don't aim to please. ;-)
Yes, Your Retentiveness. ;)
--
Silence is more musical than any song.
-- Christina Rossetti
Leon wrote:
> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98
> drawers that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
> My favorite shots:
>
Nice work Leon - however, I could not get away with that. We have different
definitions of a pantry up here. Gotta have room for cans and boxes on the
shelves, and none of the froo-froo stuff.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
That's beautiful, Leon. The drawer pulls are really striking. I may
need to borrow that idea for a piece I'm working on now.
Larry
On 12/10/2011 3:41 PM, Leon wrote:
> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes in
> two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in pantry,
> the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase could be
> added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing pantry to
> place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished the "Country
> Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her kitchen. The 26
> drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers that I built
> this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
> My favorite shots:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171225/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171007/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170833/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170313/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170313/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485169773/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485169533/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car shop
> and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in this new
> home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes in two
> styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in pantry, the 2
> story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase could be added.
> About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing pantry to place on a
> 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished the "Country Style
> Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her kitchen. The 26 drawers
> that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers that I built this year.
> The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
> My favorite shots:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171225/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171007/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170833/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170313/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170313/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485169773/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485169533/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
Yesss!! Mighty fine job.
Max
Leon wrote:
>The 26
> drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers that I built
> this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
98 drawers, eh? You would think that the women folk would run out of things
to put in those numerous drawers.
Looks good Leon. If the builder doesn't give you a pantry, Leon will build
one!
On 12/12/2011 01:10 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
>
> In this house, the kitchen is MINE.
>
Your feet must be smaller than hers ;-)
- Doug
--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill
"Larry Jaques" wrote
Leon wrote:
>>Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>large scale. ;!)
>
> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>
> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>
> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
Au Contraire, Mon Frère.
Suite: n.
1. A staff of attendants or followers; a retinue.
2.
a. A group of related things intended to be used together; a set.
b. also (s?t) A set of matching furniture: a dining room suite.
(American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed.)
Max Duryee
On 12/13/2011 08:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:31:11 -0700, "Max"<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> "Larry Jaques" wrote
>>
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>>> large scale. ;!)
>>>
>>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>>
>>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
>>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>>
>>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>>
>> Au Contraire, Mon Frère.
>>
>> Suite: n.
>> 1. A staff of attendants or followers; a retinue.
>>
>> 2.
>> a. A group of related things intended to be used together; a set.
>>
>> b. also (s?t) A set of matching furniture: a dining room suite.
>>
>> (American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed.)
>
> <sigh>
> Now look up the phrase in question, Max. "follow suite"
> Ain't no such aminal.
>
> Some people's kids. I swear...
As in "suite" pronounced "sweet". Suit as in the the new suit you wear
to weddings and funerals (is there a difference?).
>
> --
> However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
> -- Sir Winston Churchill
--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:31:11 -0700, "Max" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" wrote
>>
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>>>Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>>>tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>>>wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>>>large scale. ;!)
>>>
>>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>>
>>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
>>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>>
>>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>>
>>Au Contraire, Mon Frère.
>>
>> Suite: n.
>>1. A staff of attendants or followers; a retinue.
>>
>>2.
>>a. A group of related things intended to be used together; a set.
>>
>>b. also (s?t) A set of matching furniture: a dining room suite.
>>
>>(American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed.)
>
> <sigh>
> Now look up the phrase in question, Max. "follow suite"
> Ain't no such aminal.
>
> Some people's kids. I swear...
>
Hate when that happens. excusez-moi. discúlpeme.
Max (Oh, and thank you for bringing that to my attention) <G>
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/12/2011 10:26 PM, Dave wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
>>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
>>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>>
>>> Well Thank you Bill!
>>
>> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
>> else you make has to match this piece.
>>
>> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
>> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
>> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
>> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
>> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
>> not.<???>
>
>Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>large scale. ;!)
Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>I do enjoy the room although I have so darn busy since we moved in 12
>months ago I have not really had a chance to put things where they need
>to be. That task began today by relocating the freezer. Later this
I hope it's a very recently purchased freezer. The old ones suck
energy like they were going out of style.
>week a few other items will be relocated and I hope to finally move my
>lumber stash from the old house to the new one. Thank heavens our son
>bought our older house so we were not rushed to move although I think he
>may be getting a bit tired of waiting. LOL
Don't worry. I think he knows how slowly old people get around to
doing things.
Are you guys as dead in the winter as I am? I have a LifeAlert
installation today and 2-3 hours on Friday with an old client, with
one hour put in last week. That's it for the month so far. <sigh>
--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:48:04 -0700, "Max" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> That's probably the whole story right there. Most people think $39.99
>>> is thirty nine bucks. I call it forty.
>>>
>>
>>I always thought it was 39 bucks and 99 cents.
>>
>>Max (take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care of
>>themselves)
>
> If I saved all the pennies from those sale prices over the past 40
> years, I could probably buy a new, um, CD or something.
>
I aim for accuracy; I don't aim to please. ;-)
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:16:50 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>We'll just have to see how it plays out pricewise ... I guessing at
>least $1300+?
I'm not even sure it's in the USA yet. I believe projected US price is
about $1435.00. And yup, it should be ideal for door construction.
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:48:04 -0700, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That's probably the whole story right there. Most people think $39.99
>> is thirty nine bucks. I call it forty.
>>
>
>I always thought it was 39 bucks and 99 cents.
>
>Max (take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves)
If I saved all the pennies from those sale prices over the past 40
years, I could probably buy a new, um, CD or something.
--
Silence is more musical than any song.
-- Christina Rossetti
On 12/12/2011 10:20 AM, willshak wrote:
> Leon wrote the following:
>> On 12/11/2011 5:36 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0500, willshak<[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Larry Jaques wrote the following:
>>
>>>>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Missed the short set of steps on the far end, did you?
>>>
>>> I did, and I still can't believe 'em.
>>> Sacre bleu, eet joost eezn't doone!
>>
>> Looky here
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171225/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>
>>
>> Now look to the right end of the cabinet.
>
>
> Maybe you can make another identical set and put them on the other side
> of the cabinet so they look like part of the cabinet.
> That way, both of you can access the drawers at the same time.
> Otherwise, get rid of them and use a kitchen chair to get up there like
> the rest of us do. :-)
>
LOL. That step stool is kinda heavy, solid white oak. I drag out the
kitchen chair when my wife is not looking. She likes to put her
seasonal fluff on the step stool steps.
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0500, willshak <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Larry Jaques wrote the following:
>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
>>> that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>
>> I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
>> your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
>>
>>
>>> My favorite shots:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>
>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>
>
>Missed the short set of steps on the far end, did you?
I did, and I still can't believe 'em.
Sacre bleu, eet joost eezn't doone!
--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.
In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.
The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand
Well Leon.... you probably just made life harder for a lot of nice
guys. How could they follow that up in their own homes?
Beautiful stuff, Leon. Seriously.
After seeing your other work in person, I know the workmanship is
excellent. But I love the design work you are doing as it like no
other. It has a simple elegance to it that is really appealing to
me. I am wondering if it might be time to think about sharing that on
a larger platform than this dinky newsgroup (if you aren't already!)
and maybe thinking of teaching others.
I am still hoping that Kathy and me can make it to Houston to see all
of you in Houston. Maybe we can see it in person then.
On the other hand, I might not want Kathy to see it; I would hate to
have to make all the disclaimers if she asked the dreaded "is that
something you could do honey?". Yikes!
Gorgeous work.
Robert
Larry Jaques wrote the following:
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
>> that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
> I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
> your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
>
>
>> My favorite shots:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
Missed the short set of steps on the far end, did you?
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:20:48 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/12/2011 6:43 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 12/12/2011 6:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 12/12/2011 4:38 PM, Han wrote:
>>>> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
>>>>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
>>>>> You should feel grateful.<titter>
>>>>
>>>> I think you'd enjoy my chili better than most of her food. No
>>>> complaints,
>>>> just a remark.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your chili is not ,,, green is it? ;~)
>>>
>>> The first time my wife made chili for me I thought it was hot dog
>>> relish. She is from Tonawanda, NY.
>>
>> Yabbut she cooks like a coonass ...
>>
>
>I'll tell her that and make her day. ;~)
Tell her that Ol' Justin said it was a compLEEment.
(from his coonass grave)
Oh, here's her new sticker: http://goo.gl/KqkrF
--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.
In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.
The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand
On 12/12/2011 10:26 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>
>> Well Thank you Bill!
>
> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
> else you make has to match this piece.
>
> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
> not.<???>
Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
large scale. ;!)
I do enjoy the room although I have so darn busy since we moved in 12
months ago I have not really had a chance to put things where they need
to be. That task began today by relocating the freezer. Later this
week a few other items will be relocated and I hope to finally move my
lumber stash from the old house to the new one. Thank heavens our son
bought our older house so we were not rushed to move although I think he
may be getting a bit tired of waiting. LOL
On 12/11/2011 11:13 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 12/11/2011 11:26 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 12/10/2011 10:35 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>> On 12/10/2011 8:52 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>>>>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>>>>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>>>>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>>>>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>>>>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>>>>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>>>>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>>>>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98
>>>>> drawers
>>>>> that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>>>
>>>> I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
>>>> your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My favorite shots:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description
>>>> of a happy state in this world.
>>>> -- John Locke
>>> Maybe those drawers are open at the sides, rather than the tops?
>>
>>
>> Nope, they are normally orientated drawers.
> I was kidding, but that would be a cool twist on the design. I guess a
> guy with the skills to build that pantry could whip up a rolling ladder
> in a trice...
Yeah! Actually I might have a rolling ladder for the study and it's 11'
tall walls.
On 12/11/2011 7:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98
>> drawers that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>
>> My favorite shots:
>
> But...but...but there's no melamine board :)
>
No, LOL the less than pretty parts would be the birch plywood drawer
bottoms and the backs of the lower cabinets.
On 12/10/2011 10:35 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 12/10/2011 8:52 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
>>> that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>
>> I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
>> your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
>>
>>
>>> My favorite shots:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>>
>>
>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>>
>> --
>> A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description
>> of a happy state in this world.
>> -- John Locke
> Maybe those drawers are open at the sides, rather than the tops?
Nope, they are normally orientated drawers.
On 12/11/2011 10:09 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 12/10/2011 7:20 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Nice job Leon, nice pulls, nice contrast in colors.
>>
>> I was looking at the other photos in your album. The quilted box caught
>> my eye, because when I look at the unfinished version it looks very
>> flat, but the finished version has radiused edges on the pieces. Was the
>> unfinished not glued, and just set in place? I like the effect of the
>> radiused edges, nice work.
>>
>
>
> Thank you! Correct observations on the finished quilted box but the
> pieces were in fact glued in place. I sorat kinda like the flat piece
> look also.
Ohhhhhh, yes, again, the pieces were NOT glued in place until after the
round over, and finish was applied.
On 12/10/2011 7:52 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
>> that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
> I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
> your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
That would not be a problem, I am getting away with inviting all of the
neighborhood ladies to come see the towers bedroom project. ;~)
There is an elderly lady 4 houses down that brags about me inviting her
to come to see "his" bedroom. It is a lot of fun seeing their faces
when I invite them to the bedroom. ;~)
>> My favorite shots:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
Did you see that step stool??? LOL. Symmetry was a big factor, those
will probably be back up storage and or stuff that might be seasonal.
>
> --
> A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description
> of a happy state in this world.
> -- John Locke
On 12/12/2011 4:38 PM, Han wrote:
> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
>> You should feel grateful.<titter>
>
> I think you'd enjoy my chili better than most of her food. No complaints,
> just a remark.
>
Your chili is not ,,, green is it? ;~)
The first time my wife made chili for me I thought it was hot dog
relish. She is from Tonawanda, NY.
On 12/13/2011 11:31 AM, Max wrote:
> "Larry Jaques" wrote
>
> Leon wrote:
>
>>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>> large scale. ;!)
>>
>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>
>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>
>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>
> Au Contraire, Mon Frère.
>
> Suite: n.
> 1. A staff of attendants or followers; a retinue.
>
> 2.
> a. A group of related things intended to be used together; a set.
>
> b. also (s?t) A set of matching furniture: a dining room suite.
>
> (American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed.)
>
> Max Duryee
>
>
>
Thank you Max!
Hey Larry "snort, snort" ;~)
Scroll down to "D"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suite
On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry
Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/12/2011 10:26 PM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
>>>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
>>>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>>>
>>>> Well Thank you Bill!
>>>
>>> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
>>> else you make has to match this piece.
>>>
>>> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
>>> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
>>> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
>>> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
>>> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
>>> not.<???>
>>
>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>> large scale. ;!)
>
> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>
> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>
> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
The kitchen cabinets had to follow the bedroom suite towers.
;~) I'll blame the spell checker.
>
>
>> I do enjoy the room although I have so darn busy since we moved in 12
>> months ago I have not really had a chance to put things where they need
>> to be. That task began today by relocating the freezer. Later this
>
> I hope it's a very recently purchased freezer. The old ones suck
> energy like they were going out of style.
About 3 years old at the time, we lefo out 20_ year old on with my son
and brought my dad's freezer over.
>
>> week a few other items will be relocated and I hope to finally move my
>> lumber stash from the old house to the new one. Thank heavens our son
>> bought our older house so we were not rushed to move although I think he
>> may be getting a bit tired of waiting. LOL
>
> Don't worry. I think he knows how slowly old people get around to
> doing things.
Yeah he plays that card a lot.
>
>
> Are you guys as dead in the winter as I am? I have a LifeAlert
> installation today and 2-3 hours on Friday with an old client, with
> one hour put in last week. That's it for the month so far.<sigh>
I have 3 maybe 4 customers waiting for me to start up again. I'm on
break till after Christmas.
>
> --
> However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the
results.
> -- Sir Winston
Churchill
On 12/13/2011 5:27 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Dec 10, 4:41 pm, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. [schipferized]
>
>
> As always, Leon, exquisite!
>
Thank you Sir!
Hope your family is doing well. I know that the holiday season can be
tough.
On 12/14/2011 8:38 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:58:45 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/13/2011 9:44 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:34:35 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry
>>>> Jaques wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/12/2011 10:26 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
>>>>>>>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
>>>>>>>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well Thank you Bill!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
>>>>>>> else you make has to match this piece.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
>>>>>>> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
>>>>>>> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
>>>>>>> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
>>>>>>> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
>>>>>>> not.<???>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>>>>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>>>>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>>>>> large scale. ;!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>>>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>>>>
>>>>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>>>>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>>>>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>>>>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
>>>>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>>>>
>>>> The kitchen cabinets had to follow the bedroom suite towers.
>>>> ;~) I'll blame the spell checker.
>>>
>>> Bedroom suite, hotel suite, dining room suite, OK.
>>> Follow suit, OK.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I do enjoy the room although I have so darn busy since we moved in 12
>>>>>> months ago I have not really had a chance to put things where they need
>>>>>> to be. That task began today by relocating the freezer. Later this
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope it's a very recently purchased freezer. The old ones suck
>>>>> energy like they were going out of style.
>>>>
>>>> About 3 years old at the time, we lefo out 20_ year old on with my son
>>>> and brought my dad's freezer over.
>>>
>>> You did him a disservice. He would have cheaper lease payments than
>>> what the old boxes cost in electricity every month.
>>
>> Cheaper house payments....2 years to go and he owns it. Imagine, 24,
>> has 50% equity after the first year.
>
> Good show. It took me a bit longer. My first house was paid off
> while I lived in it, but it took me a bit longer. Sold it (at 60% of
> what the idiot broker listed it, after the city screwed me twice) and
> bought this one outright. I only wish I'd bought more land so I'd
> have room for a large shop and storage area.
>
>
>>> Must be nice to be rich enough for a new house and a month or two off.
>>
>> Yeah,,, its paid for.
>
> That's a great feeling, isn't it? Loans are a bitch.
For the last 15 years we have had no mortgage and have been debt free
except for the times that ZERO % financing is offered. We do use a
credit card extensively but only the ones that pay us to use them and
those are paid off monthly.
Yeah, throwing money away in interest for immediate gratification seems
to be a necessary evil for many. We have been fortunately enough to get
out of that routine.
On 12/11/2011 5:36 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0500, willshak<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote the following:
>>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>>
>>
>> Missed the short set of steps on the far end, did you?
>
> I did, and I still can't believe 'em.
> Sacre bleu, eet joost eezn't doone!
Looky here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171225/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
Now look to the right end of the cabinet.
On 12/11/2011 7:57 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98
>> drawers that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>
>> My favorite shots:
>>
>
> Nice work Leon - however, I could not get away with that. We have different
> definitions of a pantry up here. Gotta have room for cans and boxes on the
> shelves, and none of the froo-froo stuff.
>
That fluff stuff is about 78" from the floor. You really would not want
to put food up high and out of reach.. LOL
Bulk items are hidden below.
Thank you!
On 12/12/2011 9:09 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:36:59 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/12/2011 4:38 PM, Han wrote:
>>> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
>>>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
>>>> You should feel grateful.<titter>
>>>
>>> I think you'd enjoy my chili better than most of her food. No complaints,
>>> just a remark.
>>>
>>
>> Your chili is not ,,, green is it? ;~)
>>
>> The first time my wife made chili for me I thought it was hot dog
>> relish. She is from Tonawanda, NY.
>
> Izzat 372 parts diced jalapenos, 3 parts diced meat, and enough water
> to stir it while it cooks down?
No that is jelly not chili!
Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Oh, I saw them when they were pointed out to me, Leon. But most women
> wouldn't allow something as ugly and pedestrian as steps in their
> precious kitchen! Sacre bleu, eet joost eezn't doone!
While I made a 2-step stepstool to reach up to otherwise inaccessible
areas, it lives in the mudroom on the "park side" of our house. In the
kitchen on the street side we have a kickstep roll-about stepstool that
we special-ordered through Goodman's Hardware before it sadly closed
(pancreatic cancer of owner).
To me, well worth the investment - lightweight, sturdy and you can kick
it around when you have your hands full, as when putting away groceries.
<https://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
&q=kick+step#q=kick+step&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X
&ei=8yHmTtmvKMrv0gGh7ODxBQ&ved=
0CJMBEK0E&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=f52664628855b283&biw=1019
&bih=628>
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/85e8xol
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
> You should feel grateful. <titter>
I think you'd enjoy my chili better than most of her food. No complaints,
just a remark.
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It's likely sacrilegious, but I got a recipe for vegetarian chili,
originally aimed at participants in a summercamp - definitely not ritzy.
I did change the original 3 tbsp of cayenne pepper to 3 tsp when I tasted
it. I also added browned sweet italian sausage or spiced ground meat. I
did like the garbanzo beans, so they stayed. My daughter and her family
come running when I say I have a new batch ... If anyone is interested, I
can copy the recipe ...
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Leon wrote the following:
> On 12/14/2011 8:38 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:58:45 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/13/2011 9:44 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:34:35 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry
>>>>> Jaques wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/12/2011 10:26 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely
>>>>>>>>>> stunning.
>>>>>>>>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should
>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well Thank you Bill!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that
>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>> else you make has to match this piece.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
>>>>>>>> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
>>>>>>>> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
>>>>>>>> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
>>>>>>>> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working
>>>>>>>> properly or
>>>>>>>> not.<???>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the
>>>>>>> bedroom
>>>>>>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>>>>>> large scale. ;!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>>>>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>>>>>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>>>>>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>>>>>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The kitchen cabinets had to follow the bedroom suite towers.
>>>>> ;~) I'll blame the spell checker.
>>>>
>>>> Bedroom suite, hotel suite, dining room suite, OK.
>>>> Follow suit, OK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> I do enjoy the room although I have so darn busy since we moved
>>>>>>> in 12
>>>>>>> months ago I have not really had a chance to put things where
>>>>>>> they need
>>>>>>> to be. That task began today by relocating the freezer. Later this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope it's a very recently purchased freezer. The old ones suck
>>>>>> energy like they were going out of style.
>>>>>
>>>>> About 3 years old at the time, we lefo out 20_ year old on with my son
>>>>> and brought my dad's freezer over.
>>>>
>>>> You did him a disservice. He would have cheaper lease payments than
>>>> what the old boxes cost in electricity every month.
>>>
>>> Cheaper house payments....2 years to go and he owns it. Imagine, 24,
>>> has 50% equity after the first year.
>>
>> Good show. It took me a bit longer. My first house was paid off
>> while I lived in it, but it took me a bit longer. Sold it (at 60% of
>> what the idiot broker listed it, after the city screwed me twice) and
>> bought this one outright. I only wish I'd bought more land so I'd
>> have room for a large shop and storage area.
>>
>>
>>>> Must be nice to be rich enough for a new house and a month or two off.
>>>
>>> Yeah,,, its paid for.
>>
>> That's a great feeling, isn't it? Loans are a bitch.
>
> For the last 15 years we have had no mortgage and have been debt free
> except for the times that ZERO % financing is offered. We do use a
> credit card extensively but only the ones that pay us to use them and
> those are paid off monthly.
> Yeah, throwing money away in interest for immediate gratification seems
> to be a necessary evil for many. We have been fortunately enough to get
> out of that routine.
>
I hate you. :-(
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On 12/13/2011 9:44 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:34:35 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry
>> Jaques wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/12/2011 10:26 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
>>>>>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
>>>>>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well Thank you Bill!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
>>>>> else you make has to match this piece.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
>>>>> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
>>>>> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
>>>>> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
>>>>> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
>>>>> not.<???>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>>> large scale. ;!)
>>>
>>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>>
>>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
>>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>>
>>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>>
>> The kitchen cabinets had to follow the bedroom suite towers.
>> ;~) I'll blame the spell checker.
>
> Bedroom suite, hotel suite, dining room suite, OK.
> Follow suit, OK.
>
>
>>>> I do enjoy the room although I have so darn busy since we moved in 12
>>>> months ago I have not really had a chance to put things where they need
>>>> to be. That task began today by relocating the freezer. Later this
>>>
>>> I hope it's a very recently purchased freezer. The old ones suck
>>> energy like they were going out of style.
>>
>> About 3 years old at the time, we lefo out 20_ year old on with my son
>> and brought my dad's freezer over.
>
> You did him a disservice. He would have cheaper lease payments than
> what the old boxes cost in electricity every month.
Cheaper house payments....2 years to go and he owns it. Imagine, 24,
has 50% equity after the first year.
>
>>>> week a few other items will be relocated and I hope to finally move my
>>>> lumber stash from the old house to the new one. Thank heavens our son
>>>> bought our older house so we were not rushed to move although I think he
>>>> may be getting a bit tired of waiting. LOL
>>>
>>> Don't worry. I think he knows how slowly old people get around to
>>> doing things.
>>
>> Yeah he plays that card a lot.
>
> <g>
>
>
>>> Are you guys as dead in the winter as I am? I have a LifeAlert
>>> installation today and 2-3 hours on Friday with an old client, with
>>> one hour put in last week. That's it for the month so far.<sigh>
>>
>> I have 3 maybe 4 customers waiting for me to start up again. I'm on
>> break till after Christmas.
>
> Must be nice to be rich enough for a new house and a month or two off.
Yeah,,, its paid for.
On 12/12/2011 6:43 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 12/12/2011 6:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 12/12/2011 4:38 PM, Han wrote:
>>> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
>>>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
>>>> You should feel grateful.<titter>
>>>
>>> I think you'd enjoy my chili better than most of her food. No
>>> complaints,
>>> just a remark.
>>>
>>
>> Your chili is not ,,, green is it? ;~)
>>
>> The first time my wife made chili for me I thought it was hot dog
>> relish. She is from Tonawanda, NY.
>
> Yabbut she cooks like a coonass ...
>
I'll tell her that and make her day. ;~)
On 12/12/2011 8:04 PM, Han wrote:
> It's likely sacrilegious, but I got a recipe for vegetarian chili,
> originally aimed at participants in a summercamp - definitely not ritzy.
> I did change the original 3 tbsp of cayenne pepper to 3 tsp when I tasted
> it. I also added browned sweet italian sausage or spiced ground meat. I
> did like the garbanzo beans, so they stayed. My daughter and her family
> come running when I say I have a new batch ... If anyone is interested, I
> can copy the recipe ...
>
Sounds green to me... I don't know if you can call that chili... LOL
On 12/12/2011 11:45 AM, Bill wrote:
> On 12/10/2011 4:41 PM, Leon wrote:
>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage.
>
> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>
> Bill (from Indiana)
Well Thank you Bill!
On 12 Dec 2011 15:49:49 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Oh, I saw them when they were pointed out to me, Leon. But most women
>> wouldn't allow something as ugly and pedestrian as steps in their
>> precious kitchen! Sacre bleu, eet joost eezn't doone!
>
>While I made a 2-step stepstool to reach up to otherwise inaccessible
>areas, it lives in the mudroom on the "park side" of our house. In the
>kitchen on the street side we have a kickstep roll-about stepstool that
>we special-ordered through Goodman's Hardware before it sadly closed
>(pancreatic cancer of owner).
You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
You should feel grateful. <titter>
>To me, well worth the investment - lightweight, sturdy and you can kick
>it around when you have your hands full, as when putting away groceries.
I keep a 2-step folder in the utility room next to the kitchen since I
use it very, very seldom.
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Nice job Leon, nice pulls, nice contrast in colors.
I was looking at the other photos in your album. The quilted box caught
my eye, because when I look at the unfinished version it looks very
flat, but the finished version has radiused edges on the pieces. Was the
unfinished not glued, and just set in place? I like the effect of the
radiused edges, nice work.
On 12/10/2011 4:41 PM, Leon wrote:
> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes in
> two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in pantry,
> the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase could be
> added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing pantry to
> place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished the "Country
> Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her kitchen. The 26
> drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers that I built
> this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
> My favorite shots:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171225/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171007/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170833/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170313/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485170313/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485169773/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485169533/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
On 12/10/2011 5:20 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
> That's beautiful, Leon. The drawer pulls are really striking. I may need
> to borrow that idea for a piece I'm working on now.
>
> Larry
Thank you Larry, borrow away! Here is another version of that pull on a
much larger drawer. I actually used them on top and bottom of 4 drawers.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6489414105/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
Leon wrote the following:
> On 12/11/2011 5:36 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0500, willshak<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Larry Jaques wrote the following:
>
>>>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>>>
>>>
>>> Missed the short set of steps on the far end, did you?
>>
>> I did, and I still can't believe 'em.
>> Sacre bleu, eet joost eezn't doone!
>
> Looky here
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171225/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
> Now look to the right end of the cabinet.
Maybe you can make another identical set and put them on the other side
of the cabinet so they look like part of the cabinet.
That way, both of you can access the drawers at the same time.
Otherwise, get rid of them and use a kitchen chair to get up there like
the rest of us do. :-)
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:14:17 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
>On the other hand, I might not want Kathy to see it; I would hate to
>have to make all the disclaimers if she asked the dreaded "is that
>something you could do honey?". Yikes!
Yes, but it could be an fantastic opportunity to obtain her permission
to buy a whole pile of big iron to build those new additions to your
home.
Dave wrote the following:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>
>> Well Thank you Bill!
>
> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
> else you make has to match this piece.
>
> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
> not. <???>
You could have all 3. :-)
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On 12/10/2011 4:41 PM, Leon wrote:
> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes in
> two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in pantry,
> the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase could be
> added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing pantry to
> place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished the "Country
> Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her kitchen. The 26
> drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers that I built
> this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
Looks great. Can I ask what materials you used?
On 12/10/2011 8:28 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> Leon wrote:
>> The 26
>> drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers that I built
>> this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>
> 98 drawers, eh? You would think that the women folk would run out of things to
> put in those numerous drawers.
Heh, that's a good one. You were joking, right? :-)
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On 12/10/2011 8:52 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
>> that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
> I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
> your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
>
>
>> My favorite shots:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>
> --
> A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description
> of a happy state in this world.
> -- John Locke
Maybe those drawers are open at the sides, rather than the tops?
Leon wrote:
> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98
> drawers that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
> My favorite shots:
But...but...but there's no melamine board :)
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On 12/11/2011 11:26 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 12/10/2011 10:35 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> On 12/10/2011 8:52 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>>>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>>>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>>>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>>>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>>>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>>>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>>>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>>>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
>>>> that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>>
>>> I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
>>> your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>> My favorite shots:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>>>
>>> --
>>> A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description
>>> of a happy state in this world.
>>> -- John Locke
>> Maybe those drawers are open at the sides, rather than the tops?
>
>
> Nope, they are normally orientated drawers.
I was kidding, but that would be a cool twist on the design. I guess a
guy with the skills to build that pantry could whip up a rolling ladder
in a trice...
On 12/10/2011 4:41 PM, Leon wrote:
> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
> this new home was kitchen pantry storage.
I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
send your photos to a magazine or two.
Bill (from Indiana)
On 12/14/2011 9:13 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:47:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>> large scale. ;!)
>
> The various woods and finishes you use makes me think that those
> pieces would have also qualified you for that Festool contest you
> entered. Have you had any further response from them about it?
Dave I have receive no other response other that they did receive my entry.
I think Swingman is going to buy one when they come out. Do you
remember saying that Swingman? ;~)
Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I'm still researching this one to death:
>
> 1) Get a business expansion grant.
> --This is a no-brainer, no cost, could take a couple years to get.
> $50k to start.
>
> or
> 2) Lease a much larger machine and have to rent shop space for it.
> --This is the highest cost but at a lower interest rate. It also
> presents the possibility of quicker ROI due to larger projects, but
> those would take more expertise in software and hardware manipulation
> prior to taking them on. Catch 22. $30-50k to start.
>
> or
> 3) Buy the parts and software, then build my own smaller CNC router
> with borrowed CC money. I'd have to clear out my own shop for it.
> --It's the least monetary output but the highest interest. I could
> start slowly and then expand into a larger machine as the money came
> in. (I could turn the little guy into a laser or plasma cutter then.)
> $4-6k to start.
>
> Decisions, decisions, though I'm leaning toward the latter. Almost all
> of the niches I'm considering breaking into could be done on a smaller
> and potentially less precise machine.
You're forgetting #4
Get a home equity loan
My HELOC costs me 2.24%
No first mtg
CC's paid off every month
In effect, I'm using the HELOC as my cushion.
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:47:27 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/14/2011 8:38 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:58:45 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/13/2011 9:44 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:34:35 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry
>>>>> Jaques wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/12/2011 10:26 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
>>>>>>>>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
>>>>>>>>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well Thank you Bill!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
>>>>>>>> else you make has to match this piece.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
>>>>>>>> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
>>>>>>>> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
>>>>>>>> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
>>>>>>>> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
>>>>>>>> not.<???>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>>>>>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>>>>>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>>>>>> large scale. ;!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>>>>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>>>>>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>>>>>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>>>>>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
>>>>>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The kitchen cabinets had to follow the bedroom suite towers.
>>>>> ;~) I'll blame the spell checker.
>>>>
>>>> Bedroom suite, hotel suite, dining room suite, OK.
>>>> Follow suit, OK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> I do enjoy the room although I have so darn busy since we moved in 12
>>>>>>> months ago I have not really had a chance to put things where they need
>>>>>>> to be. That task began today by relocating the freezer. Later this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope it's a very recently purchased freezer. The old ones suck
>>>>>> energy like they were going out of style.
>>>>>
>>>>> About 3 years old at the time, we lefo out 20_ year old on with my son
>>>>> and brought my dad's freezer over.
>>>>
>>>> You did him a disservice. He would have cheaper lease payments than
>>>> what the old boxes cost in electricity every month.
>>>
>>> Cheaper house payments....2 years to go and he owns it. Imagine, 24,
>>> has 50% equity after the first year.
>>
>> Good show. It took me a bit longer. My first house was paid off
>> while I lived in it, but it took me a bit longer. Sold it (at 60% of
>> what the idiot broker listed it, after the city screwed me twice) and
>> bought this one outright. I only wish I'd bought more land so I'd
>> have room for a large shop and storage area.
>>
>>
>>>> Must be nice to be rich enough for a new house and a month or two off.
>>>
>>> Yeah,,, its paid for.
>>
>> That's a great feeling, isn't it? Loans are a bitch.
>
>For the last 15 years we have had no mortgage and have been debt free
>except for the times that ZERO % financing is offered. We do use a
>credit card extensively but only the ones that pay us to use them and
>those are paid off monthly.
Same here. How do you like bank accounts which pay you a whopping
0.05% interest on your checking? I'm still thinking "WTF?" over why
they would even do that.
>Yeah, throwing money away in interest for immediate gratification seems
>to be a necessary evil for many. We have been fortunately enough to get
>out of that routine.
Me, too. I have only one loan now (truck, 80% paid off) and no CC
balances. When I took Business Law in HS, interest rates they're
charging today were criminal, known as "usury."
I'm still researching this one to death:
1) Get a business expansion grant.
--This is a no-brainer, no cost, could take a couple years to get.
$50k to start.
or
2) Lease a much larger machine and have to rent shop space for it.
--This is the highest cost but at a lower interest rate. It also
presents the possibility of quicker ROI due to larger projects, but
those would take more expertise in software and hardware manipulation
prior to taking them on. Catch 22. $30-50k to start.
or
3) Buy the parts and software, then build my own smaller CNC router
with borrowed CC money. I'd have to clear out my own shop for it.
--It's the least monetary output but the highest interest. I could
start slowly and then expand into a larger machine as the money came
in. (I could turn the little guy into a laser or plasma cutter then.)
$4-6k to start.
Decisions, decisions, though I'm leaning toward the latter. Almost all
of the niches I'm considering breaking into could be done on a smaller
and potentially less precise machine.
--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill
Larry Jaques wrote:
> Same here. How do you like bank accounts which pay you a whopping
> 0.05% interest on your checking? I'm still thinking "WTF?" over why
> they would even do that.
Perhaps so they can maintain that they pay interest on some of their
checking account, maybe? Also, some people can't tell the difference
between 5% and .05%.
I know that their "reserve rate" (the amount on deposit a bank can't
lend) is higher on demand deposit (checking) accounts than for savings
accounts. So, assuming that they wish to make loans, it makes sense that
they would prefer the money in the savings accounts. That is also
related to the requirement that they (have to) restrict the number of
w/d's per month from savings accounts--else, in the eyes of the federal
reserve, they would resemble demand deposit accounts.
Bill
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:47:27 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
> large scale. ;!)
The various woods and finishes you use makes me think that those
pieces would have also qualified you for that Festool contest you
entered. Have you had any further response from them about it?
On 12/14/2011 5:10 PM, Larry Jaques wrote
>
> 1) Get a business expansion grant.
> --This is a no-brainer, no cost, could take a couple years to get.
> $50k to start.
>
> or
> 2) Lease a much larger machine and have to rent shop space for it.
> --This is the highest cost but at a lower interest rate. It also
> presents the possibility of quicker ROI due to larger projects, but
> those would take more expertise in software and hardware manipulation
> prior to taking them on. Catch 22. $30-50k to start.
>
> or
> 3) Buy the parts and software, then build my own smaller CNC router
> with borrowed CC money. I'd have to clear out my own shop for it.
> --It's the least monetary output but the highest interest. I could
> start slowly and then expand into a larger machine as the money came
> in. (I could turn the little guy into a laser or plasma cutter then.)
> $4-6k to start.
>
> Decisions, decisions, though I'm leaning toward the latter. Almost all
> of the niches I'm considering breaking into could be done on a smaller
> and potentially less precise machine.
>
> --
Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
On 12/12/11 11:17 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>, Doug
> Winterburn<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 12/12/2011 01:10 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
>>>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
>>>
>>> In this house, the kitchen is MINE.
>>>
>>
>> Your feet must be smaller than hers ;-)
>
> Nope... She's just not a very good cook. I am.
>
Watch out for the day she says she is no good at doing the laundry. :-)
--
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The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:36:59 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/12/2011 4:38 PM, Han wrote:
>> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
>>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
>>> You should feel grateful.<titter>
>>
>> I think you'd enjoy my chili better than most of her food. No complaints,
>> just a remark.
>>
>
>Your chili is not ,,, green is it? ;~)
>
>The first time my wife made chili for me I thought it was hot dog
>relish. She is from Tonawanda, NY.
Izzat 372 parts diced jalapenos, 3 parts diced meat, and enough water
to stir it while it cooks down?
--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.
In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.
The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:15:43 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/11/2011 5:36 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:38 -0500, willshak<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Larry Jaques wrote the following:
>
>>>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>>>
>>>
>>> Missed the short set of steps on the far end, did you?
>>
>> I did, and I still can't believe 'em.
>> Sacre bleu, eet joost eezn't doone!
>
>Looky here
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171225/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>Now look to the right end of the cabinet.
Oh, I saw them when they were pointed out to me, Leon. But most women
wouldn't allow something as ugly and pedestrian as steps in their
precious kitchen! Sacre bleu, eet joost eezn't doone!
--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.
In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.
The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:46:53 -0700, Doug Winterburn
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 12/13/2011 08:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:31:11 -0700, "Max"<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Larry Jaques" wrote
>>>
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>>>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>>>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>>>> large scale. ;!)
>>>>
>>>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>>>
>>>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>>>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>>>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>>>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
>>>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>>>
>>> Au Contraire, Mon Frère.
>>>
>>> Suite: n.
>>> 1. A staff of attendants or followers; a retinue.
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> a. A group of related things intended to be used together; a set.
>>>
>>> b. also (s?t) A set of matching furniture: a dining room suite.
>>>
>>> (American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed.)
>>
>> <sigh>
>> Now look up the phrase in question, Max. "follow suite"
>> Ain't no such aminal.
>>
>> Some people's kids. I swear...
>
>As in "suite" pronounced "sweet". Suit as in the the new suit you wear
>to weddings and funerals (is there a difference?).
"Suit" is also used in cards, which is where our phrase "to follow
suit" came from.
Now all we have to do is convince people to drop the "e" in "suite" to
get "suit" and then drop the extra "o" to get "loser".
--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:58:45 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/13/2011 9:44 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:34:35 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:On 12/13/2011 7:09 AM, Larry
>>> Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/12/2011 10:26 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
>>>>>>>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
>>>>>>>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well Thank you Bill!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
>>>>>> else you make has to match this piece.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
>>>>>> but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
>>>>>> dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
>>>>>> women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
>>>>>> imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
>>>>>> not.<???>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>>>> tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>>>> wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>>>> large scale. ;!)
>>>>
>>>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>>>
>>>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>>>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>>>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>>>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
>>>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>>>
>>> The kitchen cabinets had to follow the bedroom suite towers.
>>> ;~) I'll blame the spell checker.
>>
>> Bedroom suite, hotel suite, dining room suite, OK.
>> Follow suit, OK.
>>
>>
>>>>> I do enjoy the room although I have so darn busy since we moved in 12
>>>>> months ago I have not really had a chance to put things where they need
>>>>> to be. That task began today by relocating the freezer. Later this
>>>>
>>>> I hope it's a very recently purchased freezer. The old ones suck
>>>> energy like they were going out of style.
>>>
>>> About 3 years old at the time, we lefo out 20_ year old on with my son
>>> and brought my dad's freezer over.
>>
>> You did him a disservice. He would have cheaper lease payments than
>> what the old boxes cost in electricity every month.
>
>Cheaper house payments....2 years to go and he owns it. Imagine, 24,
>has 50% equity after the first year.
Good show. It took me a bit longer. My first house was paid off
while I lived in it, but it took me a bit longer. Sold it (at 60% of
what the idiot broker listed it, after the city screwed me twice) and
bought this one outright. I only wish I'd bought more land so I'd
have room for a large shop and storage area.
>> Must be nice to be rich enough for a new house and a month or two off.
>
>Yeah,,, its paid for.
That's a great feeling, isn't it? Loans are a bitch.
--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill
On 12/12/2011 6:36 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 12/12/2011 4:38 PM, Han wrote:
>> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
>>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
>>> You should feel grateful.<titter>
>>
>> I think you'd enjoy my chili better than most of her food. No complaints,
>> just a remark.
>>
>
> Your chili is not ,,, green is it? ;~)
>
> The first time my wife made chili for me I thought it was hot dog
> relish. She is from Tonawanda, NY.
Yabbut she cooks like a coonass ...
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http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:59:17 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
>> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
>> send your photos to a magazine or two.
>Well Thank you Bill!
Yup. Really nice looking build. The only downside is that everything
else you make has to match this piece.
I'm always jealous of what you build. Not of the pieces themselves,
but the fact that you have a suitable space to build it in. When I
dream of winning the lottery, it's not tropical vacations and naked
women I think about, it's the house with a really nice workshop I
imagine. I'm not quite sure if my imagination is working properly or
not. <???>
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's probably the whole story right there. Most people think $39.99
> is thirty nine bucks. I call it forty.
>
I always thought it was 39 bucks and 99 cents.
Max (take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves)
"FrozenNorth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 12/15/11 10:48 AM, Max wrote:
>> "Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> That's probably the whole story right there. Most people think $39.99
>>> is thirty nine bucks. I call it forty.
>>>
>>
>> I always thought it was 39 bucks and 99 cents.
>>
>> Max (take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care of
>> themselves)
>>
> I figure closer to $45, accounting for taxes.....
>
> --
> Froz...
>
>
> The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
I usually order from Amazon. ;-)
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:49:54 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Same here. How do you like bank accounts which pay you a whopping
>> 0.05% interest on your checking? I'm still thinking "WTF?" over why
>> they would even do that.
>
>Perhaps so they can maintain that they pay interest on some of their
>checking account, maybe? Also, some people can't tell the difference
>between 5% and .05%.
That's probably the whole story right there. Most people think $39.99
is thirty nine bucks. I call it forty.
>I know that their "reserve rate" (the amount on deposit a bank can't
>lend) is higher on demand deposit (checking) accounts than for savings
>accounts. So, assuming that they wish to make loans, it makes sense that
>they would prefer the money in the savings accounts. That is also
>related to the requirement that they (have to) restrict the number of
>w/d's per month from savings accounts--else, in the eyes of the federal
>reserve, they would resemble demand deposit accounts.
Truth! They're giving a generous 0.1% interest on checking now, and
nearly half a percent on $10k+ CDs. Well, they were before the
Eurocrisis...
--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill
Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 15 Dec 2011 02:17:34 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> I'm still researching this one to death:
>>>
>>> 1) Get a business expansion grant.
>>> --This is a no-brainer, no cost, could take a couple years to get.
>>> $50k to start.
>>>
>>> or
>>> 2) Lease a much larger machine and have to rent shop space for it.
>>> --This is the highest cost but at a lower interest rate. It also
>>> presents the possibility of quicker ROI due to larger projects, but
>>> those would take more expertise in software and hardware
>>> manipulation prior to taking them on. Catch 22. $30-50k to start.
>>>
>>> or
>>> 3) Buy the parts and software, then build my own smaller CNC router
>>> with borrowed CC money. I'd have to clear out my own shop for it.
>>> --It's the least monetary output but the highest interest. I could
>>> start slowly and then expand into a larger machine as the money came
>>> in. (I could turn the little guy into a laser or plasma cutter
>>> then.) $4-6k to start.
>>>
>>> Decisions, decisions, though I'm leaning toward the latter. Almost
>>> all of the niches I'm considering breaking into could be done on a
>>> smaller and potentially less precise machine.
>>
>>You're forgetting #4
>>Get a home equity loan
>>My HELOC costs me 2.24%
>>No first mtg
>>CC's paid off every month
>>
>>In effect, I'm using the HELOC as my cushion.
>
> Thanks, Han, but I really don't want to put the house up as
> collateral.
>
> Egad. After reading the tidbits on Wiki, I won't be doing a HELOC,
> even if they're still being done, or are being offered again.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_equity_line_of_credit
> Not a happy article.
>
> --
> However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the
> results.
> -- Sir Winston
> Churchill
I can pay off the HELOC next week, if necessary. At the moment it
provides the cushion more easily than other methods, increases my credit
rating and doesn't cost me much at all, after the tax advantages.
I don't know whether they are still being done at this rate, but, hey, I
got it.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On 12/15/11 10:48 AM, Max wrote:
> "Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That's probably the whole story right there. Most people think $39.99
>> is thirty nine bucks. I call it forty.
>>
>
> I always thought it was 39 bucks and 99 cents.
>
> Max (take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves)
>
I figure closer to $45, accounting for taxes.....
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 12/14/2011 6:03 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:53:13 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> I think Swingman is going to buy one when they come out. Do you
>> remember saying that Swingman? ;~)
>
> Well, considering the way you two swap tools, I guess it all comes
> down to whose turn it is to buy.
Thinking hard about it now that a good sized tenon can be made with the
XL for entry doors, etc.
I do have a Multi-Router that will do everything the XL will do and
more, but not nearly as handily ... much handier to be able to take the
tool to the material, instead of the other way 'round.
We'll just have to see how it plays out pricewise ... I guessing at
least $1300+?
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On 15 Dec 2011 02:17:34 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> I'm still researching this one to death:
>>
>> 1) Get a business expansion grant.
>> --This is a no-brainer, no cost, could take a couple years to get.
>> $50k to start.
>>
>> or
>> 2) Lease a much larger machine and have to rent shop space for it.
>> --This is the highest cost but at a lower interest rate. It also
>> presents the possibility of quicker ROI due to larger projects, but
>> those would take more expertise in software and hardware manipulation
>> prior to taking them on. Catch 22. $30-50k to start.
>>
>> or
>> 3) Buy the parts and software, then build my own smaller CNC router
>> with borrowed CC money. I'd have to clear out my own shop for it.
>> --It's the least monetary output but the highest interest. I could
>> start slowly and then expand into a larger machine as the money came
>> in. (I could turn the little guy into a laser or plasma cutter then.)
>> $4-6k to start.
>>
>> Decisions, decisions, though I'm leaning toward the latter. Almost all
>> of the niches I'm considering breaking into could be done on a smaller
>> and potentially less precise machine.
>
>You're forgetting #4
>Get a home equity loan
>My HELOC costs me 2.24%
>No first mtg
>CC's paid off every month
>
>In effect, I'm using the HELOC as my cushion.
Thanks, Han, but I really don't want to put the house up as
collateral.
Egad. After reading the tidbits on Wiki, I won't be doing a HELOC,
even if they're still being done, or are being offered again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_equity_line_of_credit
Not a happy article.
--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill
On 12/10/2011 4:46 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 12/10/2011 4:41 PM, Leon wrote:
>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes in
>> two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in pantry,
>> the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase could be
>> added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing pantry to
>> place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished the "Country
>> Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her kitchen. The 26
>> drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers that I built
>> this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>
> Looks great. Can I ask what materials you used?
Oh Nooooo that is a big secret! LOL And thank you.
Greg the dark and lighter wood is white oak. I used General Finishes
Water based Dye Stain Dark Brown and plain oil based varnish on
everything except the actual drawer bodies. The drawer bodies are made
from 1/2" Baltic birch with rabbited corners reinforced with domino tenons.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:35:17 -0500, Greg Guarino <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 12/10/2011 8:52 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
>>> that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>
>> I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
>> your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
>>
>>
>>> My favorite shots:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>
>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>>
>> --
>> A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description
>> of a happy state in this world.
>> -- John Locke
>Maybe those drawers are open at the sides, rather than the tops?
Oh. Leave it to Leon...
--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.
In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.
The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand
On 12/13/2011 11:14 AM, [email protected] wrote:On 12/13/2011 11:14
AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Well Leon.... you probably just made life harder for a lot of nice
> guys. How could they follow that up in their own homes?
>
> Beautiful stuff, Leon. Seriously.
>
> After seeing your other work in person, I know the workmanship is
> excellent. But I love the design work you are doing as it like no
> other. It has a simple elegance to it that is really appealing to
> me. I am wondering if it might be time to think about sharing that on
> a larger platform than this dinky newsgroup (if you aren't already!)
> and maybe thinking of teaching others.
>
> I am still hoping that Kathy and me can make it to Houston to see all
> of you in Houston. Maybe we can see it in person then.
>
> On the other hand, I might not want Kathy to see it; I would hate to
> have to make all the disclaimers if she asked the dreaded "is that
> something you could do honey?". Yikes!
>
> Gorgeous work.
>
> Robert
A heart felt Thank You, Robert!
In response to whom I might be sharing this with, Google+ is getting a
lot of my attention these days. Swingman got me hooked, you should join
in too. It is a totally different atmosphere and basically in it's
beginning stages. You sir would be a great addition to that group.
Y'all need to just come down, period. There, it is settled. This needs
to be a tradition thing and it would not have to be at Christmas if it
was a conflict in scheduling. And we could com to see you if that would
make things easier.
If Kathy wants one, I know where you can at least get the plans for
free. ;~) AND BTY, I would love for you to catch up with Karl, he has
seen it and "tush't it" LOL
Don't be a stranger.......
Leon
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:31:11 -0700, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Larry Jaques" wrote
>
> Leon wrote:
>
>>>Thank you Dave, the down side began early last year with the bedroom
>>>tower project. That piece is one that I am particularly proud of and I
>>>wanted this piece to follow suite. If only they were not on such a
>>>large scale. ;!)
>>
>> Gaaaaaaaaaaaack! I can't stand it any longer.
>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/To+follow+suit
>>
>> Suite (hotel) (from gagmewithaspoonbeggars Wikipedia)
>> A suite in a hotel or other public accommodation, denotes a class of
>> luxury accommodations, the key feature of which is multiple rooms.
>> Many properties have one or more "honeymoon suites", and sometimes the
>> best accommodation is called the "presidential suite".
>>
>> Sorry. I just hadda do it.
>
>Au Contraire, Mon Frère.
>
> Suite: n.
>1. A staff of attendants or followers; a retinue.
>
>2.
>a. A group of related things intended to be used together; a set.
>
>b. also (s?t) A set of matching furniture: a dining room suite.
>
>(American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed.)
<sigh>
Now look up the phrase in question, Max. "follow suite"
Ain't no such aminal.
Some people's kids. I swear...
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:22:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 12/12/2011 01:10 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You're one of the few men in the country whose wife will let a set of
>>> steps or ladder get anywhere near their PROTECTED AREA, the kitchen.
>>
>> In this house, the kitchen is MINE.
>>
>
>Your feet must be smaller than hers ;-)
I hear tell that Baldy had his feet bound as a child.
He missed going to Geisha school by || that much!
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the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:25:37 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/10/2011 7:52 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:14 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage. This particular house comes
>>> in two styles. A 2 story and a 1 story. The 1 story has a walk in
>>> pantry, the 2 story sacrifices the walk in pantry so that a staircase
>>> could be added. About 15 months ago I began designing a free standing
>>> pantry to place on a 15' long and 11' tall wall. Yesterday I finished
>>> the "Country Style Pantry" and my wife is once again happy with her
>>> kitchen. The 26 drawers that I built for this unit put me at 98 drawers
>>> that I built this year. The pantry is 8'x 8'x 16"deep.
>>
>> I'm gonna tell your wife that you have women everywhere getting into
>> your drawers, boy. That'll teach you to brag. ;)
>
>That would not be a problem, I am getting away with inviting all of the
>neighborhood ladies to come see the towers bedroom project. ;~)
>There is an elderly lady 4 houses down that brags about me inviting her
>to come to see "his" bedroom. It is a lot of fun seeing their faces
>when I invite them to the bedroom. ;~)
Heh heh heh.
>>> My favorite shots:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/6485171439/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>
>> How does one see into the top four, hmm?
>
>Did you see that step stool??? LOL. Symmetry was a big factor, those
>will probably be back up storage and or stuff that might be seasonal.
Glasses that your inlaws gave you, eh?
--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.
In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.
The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand
On 12/12/2011 11:45 AM, Bill wrote:
> On 12/10/2011 4:41 PM, Leon wrote:
>> As many of you know my wife and I had a new home built with my 3 car
>> shop and her upstairs quilting studio. The only real thing lacking in
>> this new home was kitchen pantry storage.
>
> I just wanted to tell you I think your piece is absolutely stunning.
> If you are at all interested in being an author, you should probably
> send your photos to a magazine or two.
I agree ... and I actually got to 'tush' it! Photos do not do it justice.
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