Ping Larry Jaques

In article
<[email protected]>,
phil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
> three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
> writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
> athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!

Buggerit, mate, haven't you heard of the SawStop down there? Or maybe
it doesn't work upside down?

Welcome home, Phully!

In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

> Huh? That's news to me, Martin. It's always been GIF and JPG.

The first formats were GIF, Xbm and Xpm.

<http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/11/02/why-do-we-have-an-img-eleme
nt>

In article <[email protected]>, Martin
H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was doing web designs on Sun 3 and Sun 4 boxes a long long time ago.
> Internally before the WorldWideWeb was shortened to WWW and other names.
>
> Mosaic was the first 'Netscape' long before the other browsers and companies.
>
> Tiff was one of the primary formats a number of others - now mostly obscure.
>
> The web for me started in 1987 when I downloaded (via our FTP server)
> from CERN the install files for Mosaic. Two of us were tasked to get a
> division up and going. I did practical pages and collected graphics.
>
> I still have and use TIFF / TIF format - my camera generates TIF and JPG
> at the same time. And Jpg only.
>

TIFF was invented in the '80s by Aldus as a format for "desktop
publishing", aimed at scanner vendors as a standard format. The first
version of the TIFF spec was published in a1986, and was binary only.
In 1988 rev 5 added support of palette colors and LZW compression

As the market for that was primarily the Macintosh in those days, I
find it unlikely that TIFF was being used in any serious way in the
early days of the web, and it certainly was not used for what we were
doing on the web in 1994 and forward. I'd welcome any citations you can
provide that demonstrate TIFF being widely used as a display format in
web browsers, well, ever.

See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format> for details
on the TIFF specification.

In article <[email protected]>,
Martin H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Widely ? - likely not. Not many were doing web design when I was starting.
> One had to be on the inside of very high tech science to have access to
> the early version of browser. We were writing how to files as there were
> not any paperbacks or documents to be found.
>
> Our internal network was in swing while the outside was in Bulletin boards.

I don't know of any use of TIFF as a standard web graphic format.

Please cite.

In article <s%[email protected]>, Martin
H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> We were using FrameMaker big time - they were down the street - cool software.
> It was growing and we made it a company standard. The pc managers got a copy
> and both sides of the building were happy.

Apple was still using Frame at least 2004 for documentation, but TIFF
was never a web graphic format, Martin.

In article <[email protected]>, Michael Kenefick
<[email protected]> wrote:

> www.heritagequest.com allows census images to be downloaded this way.
> The other option is a PDF. 80% of the images I have are in .TIF.
>
> Mike in Ohio

Downloaded.

Displayed in a web browser?

In article <[email protected]>, Michael Kenefick
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes.
>
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, Michael Kenefick
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> www.heritagequest.com allows census images to be downloaded this way.
> >> The other option is a PDF. 80% of the images I have are in .TIF.
> >>
> >> Mike in Ohio
> >
> > Downloaded.
> >
> > Displayed in a web browser?

Which web browser displays TIFFs?

In article <[email protected]>,
Martin H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> This was an old version - long time ago.
> And I use TIF/TIFF when I want full graphics.
>
> Otherwise you get compressed junk that might look ok and might not.
>
> My camera generates it and it is a high quality picture.
>
> NASA posts TIF in the their very high res pictures.
>
> It isn't new it is one of the older versions.
>
> The newest is a short movie as a picture. Getting out of hand.
> On internal nets - all sorts of formats are used. On external webs lots of
> formats are used but mostly bmp and jpg.
>
> Map formats are TIF or other professional formats.
> Scientific drawings are in Tif - I have a DNA drawing in that format.
> And naturally lots of personal pictures as well.
>
> Ever write documents or draw in post script ? or .eps ? That is why
> HP printers have post script options. People now days use pdf of something
> else.
>
> I have the programming manual.
>
> Martin

You seem to be confused. The fact that TIFFs are posted and available
for download has no relationship to TIFF being a standard for web
graphics. TIFF is NOT a standard for web graphics.

And yes, I have actually hand-coded PostScript and pushed it through
an interpreter that produced output on a laser printer. If my memory
serves, it would have been in about 1991 or 92 when I took a course in
Postscript coding at the University of British Columbia.

In fact, I've been working in the publishing industry for over 30 years
and remember the first PostScript capable printers. I used to service
them.

This programming manual you refer to... Do you mean the full set of the
Red Book, the Blue Book and the Green Book, as originally published by
Adobe? Or do you mean something else?

Because, if you are continuing to claim that TIFF was an early standard
for graphics on the World Wide Web (and BTW, I took our newspaper to
the web in August 1995, so I think I have some standing in this
conversation) then I am going to call Bullshit.

TIFF was never and has never been a standard graphic format for display
in a web browser.

In article <[email protected]>,
Martin H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dave when did you do your first web site ?

I took www.producer.com live in August of 1995.

We still have TWO class licences, 198.169.210.x and 198.169.211.x

Yes, that's right. TWO Class C's.

Check the Wayback Machine for the history of the site.

<http://www.archive.org/index.php>

We were not only one of the first newspapers to go to the web, but one
of the first online classified ad sites. I paid a perl programmer in
Britain $200 US to write code to parse a text dump out of our legacy
Harris CASH system and generate not only HTML but an index page as
well.

> Web graphics can be in TIFF or TIF(if pc) - the only reason for the
> lower resolution of JPG is faster loads. When data is wanted and speed
> isn't the need - use TIF.

TIFF is a print publishing standard and is not used for web browser
display.

Please provide a URL that will display a TIFF graphic in a browser
window.

> It just wasn't in your use.
> And 2004 is not early in web sites at all.

No, but 1995 was. Wayback Machine. Check, you can.

> If you were an Apple person - maybe TIF wasn't allowed on an apple.
> Apple had graphics problems due to resolution issues.

The server I set up in 1995 was a 386 box running BSDI UNIX serving web
pages using Apache. We got it from our corporate IT department because
their TokenRing network crashed whenever they plugged in it and they
could figure out why.

I did do work using Macs much later, we had a Mac running Foxbase
serving our classified ads to the main web server running Apache. That
would have been about 1997 - 2000. We had to kill the Foxbase server
because of our corporate Y2K compliance requirements. We rewrote the
code for the classifieds using PHP and SQL queries eventually.

But our web stuff has always been served from UNIX boxen.

> Graphics that worked on my Sun and my PC would not function on a Mac.
> It was painful for me to get a graphic low enough resolution and low color
> count for my managers Mac. Engineers spent to much time changing for managers.

You're just making this up as you go along, aren't you?

On Nov 13, 6:46=A0am, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:50 -0800 (PST), the infamous Nahmie
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >On Nov 11, 7:02=A0am, phil <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >SNIP
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >My goodness, look at the gremlins pop out of the woodwork! Glad to
> >"see" you, Phully & Larry.
>
> Hey, same here, Nahmie. =A0I should say "Hi!" to Noons, too, since I
> haven't talked to him since coming back.
>
> >I hear from Jummy once in a while. Guess he's still into the
> >construction, but also very active in a band
>
> >www.brazosriverband.com
>
> Well, when he ain't hackin' away at pineywood, he's hackin' away at
> C&W music, huh? =A0Ain't that sweet? =A0[Hey, Jums! Throw a nice, long,
> sensual hug and a liplock on Amie for me, will ya? Yowza! Schweet!)
> (Oops, hope she's not your woman.)] Hmm, there sure are a lot of good
> looking women singing Country, aren't there? =A0Jums looks to be doing
> well.
>
> >Anyhoo, Hi to all. Legs/knees getting worse, so pretty much doing
> >sitdown ww'ing, but I'm trying to work up some turned Christmas
> >ornaments for presents @ our church Christmas party(chinese auction).
>
> My wrists are starting to get to me, so I may not be doing the larger
> handyman jobs in the future.
>
> Have you lowered your shop to suit seated wooddorking yet, Nahmie? the
> nice thing about benches and such is that you can hack 'em off at the
> knees if you want, or drop 'em and open 'em up so you can roll into
> them with an electric chair. =A0Oops, I meant "electric wheelchair",
> didn't I? =A0I've been assembling and delivering Jazzy carts and chairs
> to the locals for the last year, too, and installing those "Help! I've
> fallen and can't get up!" Life Alert units, too.
>
> With my shop so crowded with junk, I've done most of my wooddorking
> outside, on horses and the grass. Not "fine" by any means, but it's
> mostly construction work, so it's no biggie.
>
> Take care!
>
> --
> You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
> OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
> the Golden Oldies. =A0Now that's SCARY! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --Max=
ine

Well Larry - the "Reader's Digest " version:

Got the divorce. Went half crazy now and then - sold all the sawdust
makers, quit my job and moved to Atlanta for
about 3 weeks. Visited with my son, looked for gainful employment,
and then Harvey (used to frequent the wreck) called
me and told me to head for Las Vegas (a place I never even wanted to
visit!) Stayed with him and his family for about 3
weeks, got my own place, working as a project manager for the largest
mechanical contractor in the city. Advanced to Senior
Quality Control Inspector making a great living. A lot has happened
to old Jums since the old days. I got married a year and a half
ago to a beautiful (and younger) woman who got me back into church.
I've got the band going full swing - we've performed at most
of the major casinos up and down the Strip, opened for a few of the
big names in country music (Reba, Big & Rich, Dwight Yoakum)
and having the time of our lives. I am truly blessed - something I
thought I would never be able to say. The other thing that keeps me
grounded and busy is that I also accepted the role of a lay minister
in our church. I preach at an assisted living center around the
corner from our church, and I also perform marriages and funerals.
Yup - old Minwax Mac has changed a lot! But for what is the
remainder of my life: I wouldn't change it for anything! I built all
my backyard furniture (redwood . . . no jummywood in the bunch!)
but it still won't hold up to the desert heat with 4% humidity! The
hottest it's been since I got here almost 8 years ago was 121=B0.
They say it's a dry heat and it's not as bad but believe me . . . my
oven is a dry heat and it cooks my food! LOL!

My best wishes and love goes out to each and every one of you. I
learned more about woodworking and life from you brothers
than I ever did from anyone else. We lost a wrecker a few months
back - Tom Rush in Sugar Land. Life is precious ~ it can
go in a heartbeat (or maybe just a 1/4 of a finger at a time) I heard
from a lot of you guys back when the divorce was severing
my life . . . If I ever failed to say it, thank you! Life is
good . . . but I'll still never build a spruce goose or talk with
anyone that
wants to! ROTFLMAO!

Jim McNamara
aka Jummy - Jums - Minwax Mac - Former user of Pineywood.

Nahmie can get you the story of the Pineywood that originated in
Aussie Land with Brother Phully. Still a fun read!
www.brazosriverband.com come see us in Vegas!

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:48:47 -0600, the infamous "basilisk"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
>>>>an
>>>>endangered species. : )
>>>>
>>>>A culturally endangered diggerop.
>>>
>>> Leads me to another question. Do most of you buggers understand the
>>> English speaking tourists that visit?
>>
>>
>> No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
>> understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
>> can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward
>> English. (It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique
>> Aussie character with it.)
>>
>> Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke good
>> English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and friends. I
>> can still remember an occasion when I was very young and I'd broken some
>> ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining room. I thought
>> I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she merely said 'Och laddie,
>> dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant "that's all right son, no need to
>> be upset over it."
>>
>I had a visitor from Scotland by last Saturday, I think he must have laid
>the
>dialect on thick just for my confusion and his amusement, when it came down
>to
>business, I noticed most of the incomprehensible bits dissappeared and we
>communicated just fine. I will say that I enjoyed listening even if I
>couldn't
>make out a lot of the references.

Yeah, a well-spoken Scottish brogue is great to listen to, if for
nothing more than listening to someone who cares about what they're
saying and how they say it.

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
wrote:


>A culturally endangered diggerop.

I suspect most of us older wreckers would understand it. Those that
didn't would likely get a good laugh out of it at least.

Hell, you could start your own "what is it?" group which is posted
here regularly. Only, in your case you say something and we try to
figure out what it is. Sounds like fun to me.

Okay now - I hears me name has been dragged through the archives. Lo
and behold - THE GANG'S ALL HERE! LOL!

Good day to me Top Bloke at the bottom of the world - been a long time
Phully. Nahmie was kind enuff to send out the mention.

Actually living in Las Vegas. Got a full time job doing the 9 to 5
thing . . . a full time country band performing up and down the Strip
(opening for the likes of Big and Rich, Reba McEntire, Dwight Yoakum)
and believe it or not, got just enough tools left (or purchased) to
build all my own redwood furniture (including octagon poker table) for
my back yard. Unfortunately, you can't keep enough "juice" in wood
outdoors in the desert - but I'm having fun with it. I really do miss
everyone and all the trouble we used to get into on the wreck. If
anyone has any plans to come to Vegas, email me and let me know.
I'll hook you up with the best places to stay and comp tickets for
our show as well!

Take care and holler back!

Jim (aka Jummy, Minwax Mac, etc.)
www.brazosriverband.com






On Nov 10, 3:56=A0am, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote:
> "Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. =A0Damn,
> > it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
> > ain't got him yet. =A0He slid down from Perth a while back.
>
> > Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. =A0Egad, tell him he needs a new we=
b
> > guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! =A0http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/
>
> You can tell him yourself. =A0: )
>
> I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day
>
> diggerop

On Nov 11, 12:16 pm, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>
>
> >On Nov 10, 8:56 pm, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote:
> >> "Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >> > Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. Damn,
> >> > it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
> >> > ain't got him yet. He slid down from Perth a while back.
>
> >> > Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. Egad, tell him he needs a new web
> >> > guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/
>
> >> You can tell him yourself. : )
>
> >> I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day
>
> >> diggerop
>
> >Gudday boys
>
> G'day, Phullymate.
>
> >Yup still alive and kicking . ..
> >Been a long while since I looked in here, aint it all different . ..?
> >Thanks to a phone call last night from a nice bloke telling me that
> >Larry had asked after me . . I thought I would say hi.
> >Also had an email from Mario ( in Buffalo) a while ago ( which I
> >havent replied to properly yet - sorry mate will get to it)
>
> It's damed good to hear from you, Phil.
>
> >Very busy - 12 month waiting list ( mainly thanks to that crappy
> >website wot I built with my own fair hands )
>
> Switch to JPGs or PNGs so you get the colors and clarity, dude!
>
> >Busy moving into our new Workshop Gallery what I also built with my
> >own fair hands
>
> Cool. Got JPGs? <g>
>
> >Which by the way are now bereft of the end of my favourite left index
> >finger wot I ran through the 10 inch buzzer a couple of months
> >ago . . .
>
> All I did with mine was break it, well, the right index distal
> phalanx, anyway. Sorry to hear about your loss, Stubby.
>
> >Any way just a quick hullo as i am just off to move more stuff out of
> >the old shop into the new one.
>
> Thanks for stopping by.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thesaurus: Ancient reptile with excellent vocabulary
> ====================================================

Lassa you old ratbag . . still pushing peoples buttons and winding em
up I see . .. . . .
Thats why I never stopped loving you .. big man love mate . .so dont
get scared . .

Dont be deceived Lassa. . .diggerop sounds like a great bloke .. you
can use that against him if you like.

How is things with you Larry?
I heard from Jummy some years ago . . he was running a small
construction business in Las Vegas at the time .. . I kept watching
the TV show but he never appeared . . .

Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!

Phully

> Buggerit, mate, haven't you heard of the SawStop down there? Or maybe
> it doesn't work upside down?

It is good to see some old timers on here!

I did find your web site a few months back, and I have it bookmarked to keep
tabs on you.

My wife made me get a Sawstop in the spring, are they common down there?

David.

On Nov 11, 2:31=A0pm, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), phil
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Gudday boys
>
> Good to see your voice, Phully.
>
> From Tom - in Philly, Phully.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom Watsonhttp://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

Hi Tom - when did this become a reunion? It's great to "see"
everyone back here for just a few moments.

Jummy
aka Minwax Mac - aka Jim McNamara . . . living in Vegas
www.brazosriverband.com

Greg G. wrote:
> Swingman said:
>
>> diggerop wrote:
>>
>>> A culturally endangered diggerop.
>> Give us a dinky di rendition of Slim Dusty and The Bushlander's version
>> of "The Dog Set On The Tucker Box Nine Miles From Gundagi", then Mate!
>>
>> (Last time I heard that I was 500 miles back of the Bourke, in Arnham
>> Land). :)
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SLIM-DUSTY-HIS-BUSHLANDERS-AUSSIE-SING-SONG-CD_W0QQitemZ360187833138QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Audio_CDs?hash=item53dcde2b32
>
> Yes, it's there. Excepting the memory fade...

Damn, you're right about memories ... one time I could, and did, sing
every song on that album after a few Darwin stubbies!

Reminds of hitchhiking from the Alice to Darwin, back when the bitumen
was a trek not taken lightly.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Nov 14, 2:57=A0am, "philip" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Jimmy Mac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:2d1e1cb9-127d-4a81-90c2-e4fbd1a53703@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
> Okay now - I hears me name has been dragged through the archives. =A0Lo
> and behold - THE GANG'S ALL HERE! =A0 LOL!
>
> Good day to me Top Bloke at the bottom of the world - been a long time
> Phully. =A0Nahmie was kind enuff to send out the mention.
>
> =A0Jummy me old cobber . .!
> Gudday mate . .. .
>
> Now this may come as a bit of a shock to you . . but I have just gotten b=
ack
> from the arfternoon ( well most of the day at really) having lunch in the
> pub with a bunch of friends helping one of them =A0have a bit of a birthd=
ay .
> . . never seem to get tired of it . .
> And before I flop onto one of the sofas and pretend to look at TV for a b=
it
> before I wake up and go to bed, I thought I'd have a look in with my new
> found interest in the wreck ( thanks to comment from Larry =A0- and a cal=
l
> from diggerop) and see who has popped up .. . .
> And bugger me if there arent some of the old ratbags shoving theys two bo=
bs
> worth in again . . .
>
> Now you as well thanks to good old Nahmie.
> What was it Larry called us at the start when it was all just a big old b=
un
> fight . .. . . the Jackalopes? Ah the memories of those fun times and all
> the tears before bedtime . . and some woodworking titbits as well =A0. .a=
ll
> that lovely Jummywood
>
> This is almost cause to start paying attention to Jean -who has been show=
ing
> me a whole lot of stuff lately about Cruising the Med . . .I might re awa=
ken
> my campaign to get me and the old boiler to Las Vegas instead =A0.. . . .
>
> Glad things are good for you Jums you old cowboy.
> Off to my Sofa now - and will get back to you again soon.
>
> Phully

Back at old mate . . . use a push stick - ya only got 9-1/2 left
bloke! I wrote a
small story and it's in this thread somewhere . . . on my dresser is a
jarrah box
that my best cobber top bloke made for me a lot of years ago. I still
look at it
in a mushy kinda way . . . I think that when I cash in my chips at the
end, I'll use
it for my final ash tray! LOL!

I'm sure Jean doesn't remember me, but give her my best!

Looking at ya . . . . Jummy

On Nov 10, 8:56 pm, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote:
> "Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. Damn,
> > it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
> > ain't got him yet. He slid down from Perth a while back.
>
> > Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. Egad, tell him he needs a new web
> > guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/
>
> You can tell him yourself. : )
>
> I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day
>
> diggerop

Gudday boys
Yup still alive and kicking . ..
Been a long while since I looked in here, aint it all different . ..?
Thanks to a phone call last night from a nice bloke telling me that
Larry had asked after me . . I thought I would say hi.
Also had an email from Mario ( in Buffalo) a while ago ( which I
havent replied to properly yet - sorry mate will get to it)

Very busy - 12 month waiting list ( mainly thanks to that crappy
website wot I built with my own fair hands )
Busy moving into our new Workshop Gallery what I also built with my
own fair hands
Which by the way are now bereft of the end of my favourite left index
finger wot I ran through the 10 inch buzzer a couple of months
ago . . .

Any way just a quick hullo as i am just off to move more stuff out of
the old shop into the new one.

Phully

On Nov 11, 2:48=A0pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tom Watson wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), phil
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Gudday boys
>
> > Good to see your voice, Phully.
>
> > From Tom - in Philly, Phully.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Tom Watson
> >http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
>
> I'll add an amen to that.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 weirdly yours,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 jo4hn- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mahalo old friend!

Jummy

"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
>>understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
>>can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward
>>English.
>>(It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie
>>character with it.)
>
> So you were taught English and slouched into Aussie, right? Got it.

Mate. I have to tell yer, The lapse was in using the Pommy version of
English instead of Strine.

diggerop

On Nov 11, 5:02=A0am, phil <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > phil wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 11:01 PM:
>
> > > Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!
>
> > > Phully
>
> > Phully, mate! Blast from the past, and a good one too.
> > Made my week, dammit! Heck, no: made my MONTH!
>
> > Sad to hear the news about the dropped appendage.
> > Ah well, better than my general decrepitude: two ops and still another =
one to
> > go, dickey right heel, an extra 30Kgs, etcetc...
>
> > How's Fluffy? =A0This one pisses me orf from time to time:http://tinyur=
l.com/yb8owbt
> > (I know,I know: not the same thing. So what: it's a jpg!)
>
> > Good to see you're keeping busy mate. =A0I'll definitely pay a visit to=
the site
> > now that I got its URL back: lost most of my old links a few years ago =
as a
> > result of all the stupid relocations.
>
> > Hang in there! And stay safe from Ali Mussa, Ben Zongo and all the othe=
r nigerians.
>
> > Nuno (in Sydney)
>
> Nuno .? . . how wonderful. .
> I am getting a chubby on =A0- I feel so good about all these old
> w'rec'kers.
> Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
> three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
> writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
> athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!
>
> Mate- never move to the country for the quiet life =A0. .. . .!
>
> Good to hear from you.
>
> Phully- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yer still my top bloke dont-ya know old man! LOL!

Jummy

On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
> phil wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 11:01 PM:
>
>
>
> > Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!
>
> > Phully
>
> Phully, mate! Blast from the past, and a good one too.
> Made my week, dammit! Heck, no: made my MONTH!
>
> Sad to hear the news about the dropped appendage.
> Ah well, better than my general decrepitude: two ops and still another one to
> go, dickey right heel, an extra 30Kgs, etcetc...
>
> How's Fluffy? This one pisses me orf from time to time:http://tinyurl.com/yb8owbt
> (I know,I know: not the same thing. So what: it's a jpg!)
>
> Good to see you're keeping busy mate. I'll definitely pay a visit to the site
> now that I got its URL back: lost most of my old links a few years ago as a
> result of all the stupid relocations.
>
> Hang in there! And stay safe from Ali Mussa, Ben Zongo and all the other nigerians.
>
> Nuno (in Sydney)

Nuno .? . . how wonderful. .
I am getting a chubby on - I feel so good about all these old
w'rec'kers.
Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!

Mate- never move to the country for the quiet life . .. . .!

Good to hear from you.

Phully

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:11:01 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
wrote:

>> Hell, you could start your own "what is it?" group which is posted
>> here regularly. Only, in your case you say something and we try to
>> figure out what it is. Sounds like fun to me.
>
>
>I'll do that .... could be entertaining : )

Give it a try. Post a half dozen lines of text and then let people try
to interpret them. (No hidden Aussies or New Zealanders allowed to
answer). I suspect your dialect is laced with the occasional
profanity, so we'll allow you to use it. Give it a little time for
people to answer (you can choose the time period) and then you can
judge which answers come closest. We can call it something like
Diggerop's Dictionary.

The issue is your English style. I never stated it was a web standard.
You state that... Who cares - we used it.

The graphic browser - Mosaic displayed Tiff. (two f's for UNIX, one for MS).
So the browser knew of the TIFF standard and was able to display.

Martin

Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Martin H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This was an old version - long time ago.
>> And I use TIF/TIFF when I want full graphics.
>>
>> Otherwise you get compressed junk that might look ok and might not.
>>
>> My camera generates it and it is a high quality picture.
>>
>> NASA posts TIF in the their very high res pictures.
>>
>> It isn't new it is one of the older versions.
>>
>> The newest is a short movie as a picture. Getting out of hand.
>> On internal nets - all sorts of formats are used. On external webs lots of
>> formats are used but mostly bmp and jpg.
>>
>> Map formats are TIF or other professional formats.
>> Scientific drawings are in Tif - I have a DNA drawing in that format.
>> And naturally lots of personal pictures as well.
>>
>> Ever write documents or draw in post script ? or .eps ? That is why
>> HP printers have post script options. People now days use pdf of something
>> else.
>>
>> I have the programming manual.
>>
>> Martin
>
> You seem to be confused. The fact that TIFFs are posted and available
> for download has no relationship to TIFF being a standard for web
> graphics. TIFF is NOT a standard for web graphics.
>
> And yes, I have actually hand-coded PostScript and pushed it through
> an interpreter that produced output on a laser printer. If my memory
> serves, it would have been in about 1991 or 92 when I took a course in
> Postscript coding at the University of British Columbia.
>
> In fact, I've been working in the publishing industry for over 30 years
> and remember the first PostScript capable printers. I used to service
> them.
>
> This programming manual you refer to... Do you mean the full set of the
> Red Book, the Blue Book and the Green Book, as originally published by
> Adobe? Or do you mean something else?
>
> Because, if you are continuing to claim that TIFF was an early standard
> for graphics on the World Wide Web (and BTW, I took our newspaper to
> the web in August 1995, so I think I have some standing in this
> conversation) then I am going to call Bullshit.
>
> TIFF was never and has never been a standard graphic format for display
> in a web browser.

Aw Lassa . .
I knew what a jaypeg was . . .I just dont know how to make it pretty on my
web site given that I did the thing in Publisher .. but now that you have
wound me up I will have a go at changing the images . . somehow .. ! But
thanks for the info.
Remember I arent very clever like you.

Home and Garden Handy man . .. ? helping ladies . .. ? strewth mate . .. !

Bad bad news about your finger/wrist buggerising up . .

Still havent used that stuff I sent you ?.. crickey! it must have doubled
in size by now ..

Will get some pics for you of the tin palace . . and the new Workshop etc .
. .

Phully


"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:01:55 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>Lassa you old ratbag . . still pushing peoples buttons and winding em
>>up I see . .. . . .
>
> You betcha!
>
>
>>Thats why I never stopped loving you .. big man love mate . .so dont
>>get scared . .
>
> Oh, OK.
>
>
>>Dont be deceived Lassa. . .diggerop sounds like a great bloke .. you
>>can use that against him if you like.
>
> I likely will.
>
>
>>How is things with you Larry?
>>I heard from Jummy some years ago . . he was running a small
>>construction business in Las Vegas at the time .. . I kept watching
>>the TV show but he never appeared . . .
>
> I'm still doing web design, but my day job is now the Home and Garden
> Handyman. I help widder wimmenz whip their woodworking woes, so to
> speak.
>
> On September 5th, I broke that right index fingertip. (nasty rabid
> flagstone bit) On October 7th, I took off the splint. On October 9th,
> I slipped and sprained my left wrist. So, as the Orientals say, it's
> been an interesting time, this end-of-summer of mine.
>
> I'm still trying to clear enough room in the shop to bash up some of
> that nice jarrah you sent to me. All I've managed to build out of it
> so far is a weather rock stand for my dad, before he died. It was a
> smaller version of this style:
> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/420972328_f148789bae.jpg
>
> I have a design for a mission style couch in my head, and some of the
> jarrah is slated for that. Maybe by THIS Christmas...
>
> Did you ever find replacement gnomes for your shop, or are you still
> raking in all that dough by yourself?
>
> Also, I need pics of your Southern Mansion, what you were building
> when we last talked.
>
>
>>Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!
>
> A JPG (or PNG) is to a GIF
> what a
> glossy full-color maggy cover is to a b/w newspaper piccy.
>
> The GIF picture format limits you to 256 colors, 8 bit color.
> The JPG format gives you 16.7 million, 32 bit color.
>
> This article was written by Aussie nerds. Maybe you'll grok it.
> http://articles.sitepoint.com/article/gif-jpg-png-whats-difference#
>
> Anywho, you can adjust the JPG compression to find the best balance
> between clarity and file size.
>
> xox
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thesaurus: Ancient reptile with excellent vocabulary
> ====================================================

On Nov 11, 7:02=A0am, phil <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
SNIP
> - Show quoted text -

My goodness, look at the gremlins pop out of the woodwork! Glad to
"see" you, Phully & Larry.

I hear from Jummy once in a while. Guess he's still into the
construction, but also very active in a band


www.brazosriverband.com

Anyhoo, Hi to all. Legs/knees getting worse, so pretty much doing
sitdown ww'ing, but I'm trying to work up some turned Christmas
ornaments for presents @ our church Christmas party(chinese auction).

Norm

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:01:55 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>Lassa you old ratbag . . still pushing peoples buttons and winding em
>up I see . .. . . .

You betcha!


>Thats why I never stopped loving you .. big man love mate . .so dont
>get scared . .

Oh, OK.


>Dont be deceived Lassa. . .diggerop sounds like a great bloke .. you
>can use that against him if you like.

I likely will.


>How is things with you Larry?
>I heard from Jummy some years ago . . he was running a small
>construction business in Las Vegas at the time .. . I kept watching
>the TV show but he never appeared . . .

I'm still doing web design, but my day job is now the Home and Garden
Handyman. I help widder wimmenz whip their woodworking woes, so to
speak.

On September 5th, I broke that right index fingertip. (nasty rabid
flagstone bit) On October 7th, I took off the splint. On October 9th,
I slipped and sprained my left wrist. So, as the Orientals say, it's
been an interesting time, this end-of-summer of mine.

I'm still trying to clear enough room in the shop to bash up some of
that nice jarrah you sent to me. All I've managed to build out of it
so far is a weather rock stand for my dad, before he died. It was a
smaller version of this style:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/420972328_f148789bae.jpg

I have a design for a mission style couch in my head, and some of the
jarrah is slated for that. Maybe by THIS Christmas...

Did you ever find replacement gnomes for your shop, or are you still
raking in all that dough by yourself?

Also, I need pics of your Southern Mansion, what you were building
when we last talked.


>Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!

A JPG (or PNG) is to a GIF
what a
glossy full-color maggy cover is to a b/w newspaper piccy.

The GIF picture format limits you to 256 colors, 8 bit color.
The JPG format gives you 16.7 million, 32 bit color.

This article was written by Aussie nerds. Maybe you'll grok it.
http://articles.sitepoint.com/article/gif-jpg-png-whats-difference#

Anywho, you can adjust the JPG compression to find the best balance
between clarity and file size.

xox

----------------------------------------------------
Thesaurus: Ancient reptile with excellent vocabulary
====================================================

On Nov 13, 8:46=A0am, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:50 -0800 (PST), the infamous Nahmie
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >On Nov 11, 7:02=A0am, phil <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >SNIP
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >My goodness, look at the gremlins pop out of the woodwork! Glad to
> >"see" you, Phully & Larry.
>
> Hey, same here, Nahmie. =A0I should say "Hi!" to Noons, too, since I
> haven't talked to him since coming back.
>
> >I hear from Jummy once in a while. Guess he's still into the
> >construction, but also very active in a band
>
> >www.brazosriverband.com
>
> Well, when he ain't hackin' away at pineywood, he's hackin' away at
> C&W music, huh? =A0Ain't that sweet? =A0[Hey, Jums! Throw a nice, long,
> sensual hug and a liplock on Amie for me, will ya? Yowza! Schweet!)
> (Oops, hope she's not your woman.)] Hmm, there sure are a lot of good
> looking women singing Country, aren't there? =A0Jums looks to be doing
> well.
>
> >Anyhoo, Hi to all. Legs/knees getting worse, so pretty much doing
> >sitdown ww'ing, but I'm trying to work up some turned Christmas
> >ornaments for presents @ our church Christmas party(chinese auction).
>
> My wrists are starting to get to me, so I may not be doing the larger
> handyman jobs in the future.
>
> Have you lowered your shop to suit seated wooddorking yet, Nahmie? the
> nice thing about benches and such is that you can hack 'em off at the
> knees if you want, or drop 'em and open 'em up so you can roll into
> them with an electric chair. =A0Oops, I meant "electric wheelchair",
> didn't I? =A0I've been assembling and delivering Jazzy carts and chairs
> to the locals for the last year, too, and installing those "Help! I've
> fallen and can't get up!" Life Alert units, too.
>
> With my shop so crowded with junk, I've done most of my wooddorking
> outside, on horses and the grass. Not "fine" by any means, but it's
> mostly construction work, so it's no biggie.
>
> Take care!
>
> --
> You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
> OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
> the Golden Oldies. =A0Now that's SCARY! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --Max=
ine

Actually, my "shop" got moved to BIL's garage in Longview, TX about 4
yrs ago. SWMBO retired, we sold house & live in a 36' 5th wheel RV,
spend Summer back near kids in Jamestown, NY and Winter here in TX.
Can't really cut equipment down too much because BIL wants to get into
more ww'ing, and he will inherit when I'm gone. Had Lap Band surgery
in Jan. '08, dumped about 60lb. and when I can get rid of another 70,
gonna try for new knees, providing our illustrious leaders new health
care plan will allow it. In the meantime, I do some scroll saw stuff,
and keep a chair nearby so I can take breaks from standing, although
sometimes it's worse to have to get up again than to keep standing!

Again, "Hi" to all.
Norm

"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, diggerop wrote:
>
>> "So, what's with the bag of fruit?" ; "The missus wants me to go to
>> this bunfight with her" ;
>> "You look as flash as a rat with a gold tooth" ; "Yair, I feel like a
>> pox doctor's clerk"
>> Translation: "I see you're wearing a suit". ; " Yes, my wife asked me to
>> attend a formal dinner with her." ; "It's not often I see you dressed
>> a smartly as that" ; "Yes you're right, I'm not comfortable in these
>> sorts of clothes."
>>
>> Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
>> an endangered species. : )
>
> Not all endangered species are worth saving :-).
>

You'll keep, ...... ya mongrel. : )

diggerop

"Jimmy Mac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2d1e1cb9-127d-4a81-90c2-e4fbd1a53703@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
Okay now - I hears me name has been dragged through the archives. Lo
and behold - THE GANG'S ALL HERE! LOL!

Good day to me Top Bloke at the bottom of the world - been a long time
Phully. Nahmie was kind enuff to send out the mention.

Actually living in Las Vegas. Got a full time job doing the 9 to 5
thing . . . a full time country band performing up and down the Strip
(opening for the likes of Big and Rich, Reba McEntire, Dwight Yoakum)
and believe it or not, got just enough tools left (or purchased) to
build all my own redwood furniture (including octagon poker table) for
my back yard. Unfortunately, you can't keep enough "juice" in wood
outdoors in the desert - but I'm having fun with it. I really do miss
everyone and all the trouble we used to get into on the wreck. If
anyone has any plans to come to Vegas, email me and let me know.
I'll hook you up with the best places to stay and comp tickets for
our show as well!

Take care and holler back!

Jim (aka Jummy, Minwax Mac, etc.)
www.brazosriverband.com


Ooh er . . . Jummy - you certainly aint a bloke for staying in the same old
box ( so to speak) is yer . .. .?

I suppose with a lot of us at some stage there is some catharsis that
changes our direction/outlook on life etc.
It sounds like your world is a good place.

but hang on . . . Preaching . . ? Weddings and Funerals .. ? Maybe we
will come to Vegas and you can get me and the old boiler actually hitched
up - after 30 years of being "shacked up" . .........there must be somebody
out there . . .. .!

I dont mind if you have given up carousing with wild wimmin . . but please
tell me you havent given up important stuff like cussin and drinkin . . . .!

Gotta go - my management team has just instructed me to go for a walk with
her and the dogs . .. feel like a bit of a walk too, seemed to have had a
good day at the pub yesterday. . .

Phully

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, diggerop wrote:

> "So, what's with the bag of fruit?" ; "The missus wants me to go to
> this bunfight with her" ;
> "You look as flash as a rat with a gold tooth" ; "Yair, I feel like a
> pox doctor's clerk"
> Translation: "I see you're wearing a suit". ; " Yes, my wife asked me to
> attend a formal dinner with her." ; "It's not often I see you dressed
> a smartly as that" ; "Yes you're right, I'm not comfortable in these
> sorts of clothes."
>
> Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
> an endangered species. : )

Not all endangered species are worth saving :-).

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:20:33 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
> <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>
>>In article
>><[email protected]>,
>>phil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
>>> three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
>>> writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
>>> athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!
>>
>>Buggerit, mate, haven't you heard of the SawStop down there? Or maybe
>>it doesn't work upside down?
>
> Yeah, in Oz, it jumps up and take the entire hand off.
> Very Highly Not Recommended.
>

That's it in a nutshell.

I don't suppose American wreckers would realise that one of the reasons US
woodworking gear is so expensive over here is that it all has to be
converted. Otherwise, everything works up side down and backwards. This
involves taking it all apart and re-assembling the right way up. Costs time
and money. Oh, and don't forget about making the sawblade or planer head run
the other way otherwise, when you go to break down a 6x4 on the TS, it turns
back into a log. A planer running the wrong way will add thickness rather
than taking it off.

Chinese stuff is not so bad, we just have to rotate it 90 degrees.

Fair dinkum mate. I wouldn't pull your leg over something as serious as
that.

diggerop

"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> basilisk wrote:
>> "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>
>>> No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a
>>> language we understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of
>>> a dialect,) which can prove confusing for others, along with
>>> speaking straightforward English. (It really is dying out though
>>> and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie character with it.)
>>>
>>> Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke
>>> good English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and
>>> friends. I can still remember an occasion when I was very young and
>>> I'd broken some ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining
>>> room. I thought I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she
>>> merely said 'Och laddie, dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant
>>> "that's all right son, no need to be upset over it."
>>>
>> I had a visitor from Scotland by last Saturday, I think he must have
>> laid the dialect on thick just for my confusion and his amusement,
>> when it came down to business, I noticed most of the incomprehensible
>> bits dissappeared and we communicated just fine. I will say that I
>> enjoyed listening even if I couldn't make out a lot of the
>> references.
>
> My widowed grandmother brought her four kids to the US from Edinburgh
> during the depression. She worked in Chicago as a nurse and worked hard to
> lose all trace of her "burr". After a few years she returned to visit her
> sister in Ayr for two weeks, during which time she re-acquired her accent
> fully and maintained it carefully for the next sixty-some years. :)
>
> I have to laugh /with/ her. I was born in Georgia, and when I moved to
> northern Indiana and started school, the kids made fun of how I "tawk'd"
> and, according to my mother, it took less than week for me to lose all
> trace of my drawl.
>
> Fast forward to late fifties - I returned to to the Atlanta area to spend
> a school Christmas vacation with the folks who'd been next door neighbors
> when I'd been an ankle-biter. They'd set up blind dates for every evening
> leading up to a big New Year's dance - for which I was expected to ask one
> of the young ladies to accompany me (I felt like I'd fallen into a time
> warp). First date told me I tawkt lahk a damnyankee (lip curled). Second
> date remarked that I had a trace of yankee accent and asked where I'd
> picked /that/ up (with an overtone suggesting that perhaps penicillin
> might help). By the third evening I'd worked the bugs out and everything
> went smoothly thereafter (I did invite a gorgeous young belle to the dance
> and had a great time). Just before I returned to school, my "improvement"
> was recognized with a certificate making me an honorary colonel in the
> Confederate underground. :)
>
> But for the life of me, I can't speak with a Scottish burr. :-]

So, ye wuid nae say a braw bricht moonlicht nicht, the nicht then?

Kids are amazingly adaptable. We had my father with his trace of Irish
accent, and daily use of the Irish way of expression, my Grandmother with
her soft Scottish burr, and my mother with her everyday Ausie accent. We had
no idea at all that each of them spoke in a different manner. We could
understand them, therefore there was no difference to us as kids.

One thing that did click with me in later years was the realisation that I
unconciously adopted each of their accents when speaking to them. So that a
scottish burr comes naturally to me. Or irish expression.

It happened that the burr stood me in very good stead in learning Bahasa
Indonesia. They roll their r's just as the Scots do, something that doesn't
come easily to Aussies.

diggerop

Widely ? - likely not. Not many were doing web design when I was starting.
One had to be on the inside of very high tech science to have access to
the early version of browser. We were writing how to files as there were
not any paperbacks or documents to be found.

Our internal network was in swing while the outside was in Bulletin boards.

Martin

Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Martin
> H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I was doing web designs on Sun 3 and Sun 4 boxes a long long time ago.
>> Internally before the WorldWideWeb was shortened to WWW and other names.
>>
>> Mosaic was the first 'Netscape' long before the other browsers and companies.
>>
>> Tiff was one of the primary formats a number of others - now mostly obscure.
>>
>> The web for me started in 1987 when I downloaded (via our FTP server)
>> from CERN the install files for Mosaic. Two of us were tasked to get a
>> division up and going. I did practical pages and collected graphics.
>>
>> I still have and use TIFF / TIF format - my camera generates TIF and JPG
>> at the same time. And Jpg only.
>>
>
> TIFF was invented in the '80s by Aldus as a format for "desktop
> publishing", aimed at scanner vendors as a standard format. The first
> version of the TIFF spec was published in a1986, and was binary only.
> In 1988 rev 5 added support of palette colors and LZW compression
>
> As the market for that was primarily the Macintosh in those days, I
> find it unlikely that TIFF was being used in any serious way in the
> early days of the web, and it certainly was not used for what we were
> doing on the web in 1994 and forward. I'd welcome any citations you can
> provide that demonstrate TIFF being widely used as a display format in
> web browsers, well, ever.
>
> See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format> for details
> on the TIFF specification.

Actually, my "shop" got moved to BIL's garage in Longview, TX about 4
yrs ago. SWMBO retired, we sold house & live in a 36' 5th wheel RV,
spend Summer back near kids in Jamestown, NY and Winter here in TX.
Can't really cut equipment down too much because BIL wants to get into
more ww'ing, and he will inherit when I'm gone. Had Lap Band surgery
in Jan. '08, dumped about 60lb. and when I can get rid of another 70,
gonna try for new knees, providing our illustrious leaders new health
care plan will allow it. In the meantime, I do some scroll saw stuff,
and keep a chair nearby so I can take breaks from standing, although
sometimes it's worse to have to get up again than to keep standing!

Again, "Hi" to all.
Norm

Gudday Norm
I was just thinking about you the other day . . . whilst moving shop I was
clearing all the stuff off one of the walls in the showroom - one of them
being a cheque for US$10 that you sent me for some raffle tickets on a piece
that I had donated to our Bowling Club. . I never cashed it, but donated
$20 to the club in lieu ( I did fill some tickets out for you as well )
Anyway, I had always kept that cheque as a bit of momento and as I took it
off the wall the other day I thought of you and wished you well. . .

Hope things are going well with you - and hope now to pay some more
attention to the old wreck - great to see some the old mob popping up..
.almost like a humping great big group hug innit. . .?

Cheers mate

Phully

And what the ?x? - where is Tiff/Tif quality format.

The web started with Tiff and gif and a few more on unix.
Tiff holds all of the data - more than the crappy views on some sites.

Problem with new formats - who has an editor - a graphics program for them -
oh Microsoft only...

Martin

philip wrote:
> Aw Lassa . .
> I knew what a jaypeg was . . .I just dont know how to make it pretty on
> my web site given that I did the thing in Publisher .. but now that you
> have wound me up I will have a go at changing the images . . somehow ..
> ! But thanks for the info.
> Remember I arent very clever like you.
>
> Home and Garden Handy man . .. ? helping ladies . .. ? strewth mate .
> .. !
>
> Bad bad news about your finger/wrist buggerising up . .
>
> Still havent used that stuff I sent you ?.. crickey! it must have
> doubled in size by now ..
>
> Will get some pics for you of the tin palace . . and the new Workshop
> etc . . .
>
> Phully
>
>
> "Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:01:55 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>> Lassa you old ratbag . . still pushing peoples buttons and winding em
>>> up I see . .. . . .
>>
>> You betcha!
>>
>>
>>> Thats why I never stopped loving you .. big man love mate . .so dont
>>> get scared . .
>>
>> Oh, OK.
>>
>>
>>> Dont be deceived Lassa. . .diggerop sounds like a great bloke .. you
>>> can use that against him if you like.
>>
>> I likely will.
>>
>>
>>> How is things with you Larry?
>>> I heard from Jummy some years ago . . he was running a small
>>> construction business in Las Vegas at the time .. . I kept watching
>>> the TV show but he never appeared . . .
>>
>> I'm still doing web design, but my day job is now the Home and Garden
>> Handyman. I help widder wimmenz whip their woodworking woes, so to
>> speak.
>>
>> On September 5th, I broke that right index fingertip. (nasty rabid
>> flagstone bit) On October 7th, I took off the splint. On October 9th,
>> I slipped and sprained my left wrist. So, as the Orientals say, it's
>> been an interesting time, this end-of-summer of mine.
>>
>> I'm still trying to clear enough room in the shop to bash up some of
>> that nice jarrah you sent to me. All I've managed to build out of it
>> so far is a weather rock stand for my dad, before he died. It was a
>> smaller version of this style:
>> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/420972328_f148789bae.jpg
>>
>> I have a design for a mission style couch in my head, and some of the
>> jarrah is slated for that. Maybe by THIS Christmas...
>>
>> Did you ever find replacement gnomes for your shop, or are you still
>> raking in all that dough by yourself?
>>
>> Also, I need pics of your Southern Mansion, what you were building
>> when we last talked.
>>
>>
>>> Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!
>>
>> A JPG (or PNG) is to a GIF
>> what a
>> glossy full-color maggy cover is to a b/w newspaper piccy.
>>
>> The GIF picture format limits you to 256 colors, 8 bit color.
>> The JPG format gives you 16.7 million, 32 bit color.
>>
>> This article was written by Aussie nerds. Maybe you'll grok it.
>> http://articles.sitepoint.com/article/gif-jpg-png-whats-difference#
>>
>> Anywho, you can adjust the JPG compression to find the best balance
>> between clarity and file size.
>>
>> xox
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Thesaurus: Ancient reptile with excellent vocabulary
>> ====================================================
>

Holy Crap Jummy,

You are making me all teary eyed!

I am very happy for you that everything worked out.

I remember the crappy days way back when, when your world was falling apart.

Take care,

David.


"Jimmy Mac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:16d33287-f361-4a0a-a946-a49de9f4a8f3@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 13, 6:46 am, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:50 -0800 (PST), the infamous Nahmie
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >On Nov 11, 7:02 am, phil <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >SNIP
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >My goodness, look at the gremlins pop out of the woodwork! Glad to
> >"see" you, Phully & Larry.
>
> Hey, same here, Nahmie. I should say "Hi!" to Noons, too, since I
> haven't talked to him since coming back.
>
> >I hear from Jummy once in a while. Guess he's still into the
> >construction, but also very active in a band
>
> >www.brazosriverband.com
>
> Well, when he ain't hackin' away at pineywood, he's hackin' away at
> C&W music, huh? Ain't that sweet? [Hey, Jums! Throw a nice, long,
> sensual hug and a liplock on Amie for me, will ya? Yowza! Schweet!)
> (Oops, hope she's not your woman.)] Hmm, there sure are a lot of good
> looking women singing Country, aren't there? Jums looks to be doing
> well.
>
> >Anyhoo, Hi to all. Legs/knees getting worse, so pretty much doing
> >sitdown ww'ing, but I'm trying to work up some turned Christmas
> >ornaments for presents @ our church Christmas party(chinese auction).
>
> My wrists are starting to get to me, so I may not be doing the larger
> handyman jobs in the future.
>
> Have you lowered your shop to suit seated wooddorking yet, Nahmie? the
> nice thing about benches and such is that you can hack 'em off at the
> knees if you want, or drop 'em and open 'em up so you can roll into
> them with an electric chair. Oops, I meant "electric wheelchair",
> didn't I? I've been assembling and delivering Jazzy carts and chairs
> to the locals for the last year, too, and installing those "Help! I've
> fallen and can't get up!" Life Alert units, too.
>
> With my shop so crowded with junk, I've done most of my wooddorking
> outside, on horses and the grass. Not "fine" by any means, but it's
> mostly construction work, so it's no biggie.
>
> Take care!
>
> --
> You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
> OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
> the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

Well Larry - the "Reader's Digest " version:

Got the divorce. Went half crazy now and then - sold all the sawdust
makers, quit my job and moved to Atlanta for
about 3 weeks. Visited with my son, looked for gainful employment,
and then Harvey (used to frequent the wreck) called
me and told me to head for Las Vegas (a place I never even wanted to
visit!) Stayed with him and his family for about 3
weeks, got my own place, working as a project manager for the largest
mechanical contractor in the city. Advanced to Senior
Quality Control Inspector making a great living. A lot has happened
to old Jums since the old days. I got married a year and a half
ago to a beautiful (and younger) woman who got me back into church.
I've got the band going full swing - we've performed at most
of the major casinos up and down the Strip, opened for a few of the
big names in country music (Reba, Big & Rich, Dwight Yoakum)
and having the time of our lives. I am truly blessed - something I
thought I would never be able to say. The other thing that keeps me
grounded and busy is that I also accepted the role of a lay minister
in our church. I preach at an assisted living center around the
corner from our church, and I also perform marriages and funerals.
Yup - old Minwax Mac has changed a lot! But for what is the
remainder of my life: I wouldn't change it for anything! I built all
my backyard furniture (redwood . . . no jummywood in the bunch!)
but it still won't hold up to the desert heat with 4% humidity! The
hottest it's been since I got here almost 8 years ago was 121°.
They say it's a dry heat and it's not as bad but believe me . . . my
oven is a dry heat and it cooks my food! LOL!

My best wishes and love goes out to each and every one of you. I
learned more about woodworking and life from you brothers
than I ever did from anyone else. We lost a wrecker a few months
back - Tom Rush in Sugar Land. Life is precious ~ it can
go in a heartbeat (or maybe just a 1/4 of a finger at a time) I heard
from a lot of you guys back when the divorce was severing
my life . . . If I ever failed to say it, thank you! Life is
good . . . but I'll still never build a spruce goose or talk with
anyone that
wants to! ROTFLMAO!

Jim McNamara
aka Jummy - Jums - Minwax Mac - Former user of Pineywood.

Nahmie can get you the story of the Pineywood that originated in
Aussie Land with Brother Phully. Still a fun read!
www.brazosriverband.com come see us in Vegas!

"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> There are two problems with the above post. One, Dop thinks I was in
> Oz at some time in my life. The truth is that I've only been there in
> my nightmares, er, dreams; yeah, that's it.
>

Maaate.......
I'm terribly saddened to hear that. Imagine never having been to Oz.
I can only guess at what a painful gaping hole that would leave in a man's
soul.
Must be like a honeybee forced to live on vinegar all it's life. Knowing
that ther's all that sweet nectar going begging and instead he gets the
bitter crap.
Never mind mate, - I can tell you that this is the best place on earth,
has the sexiest friendliest Sheilas, the best climate and the best booze.
I'll be only too happy to let you know in great detail, at any time, just
how much you've missed out on.
After all, what are mates for?

diggerop

www.heritagequest.com allows census images to be downloaded this way.
The other option is a PDF. 80% of the images I have are in .TIF.

Mike in Ohio

Dave Balderstone wrote:
<snip>
>
> I don't know of any use of TIFF as a standard web graphic format.
>
> Please cite.

"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>

Reading the exchanges between Phully and yourself, it struck me that the
everyday vernacular I use talking with my Aussie mates is nothing like the
way I express myself in the wreck.
Mainly because I don't think anyone other than Aussies, or those like
yourself who have spent time in this country would understand it if I did
use Aussie expressions.

A typical exchange from when I met up with a former New Zealander workmate/
friend.
"G'day you horrible old bastard." ; "Well I'll be buggered, if it isn't
the old Kiwi sheep shagger himself."
Translation: both of us were saying "Hello old friend, it's really good to
see you"

"So, how've you been?" ; "Crook as a dog mate" ; "what a bastard"
Translation: So how is your health?; "Not good, I've been quite ill," ;
"That's a shame, I'm sorry to hear it."

"So, what's with the bag of fruit?" ; "The missus wants me to go to this
bunfight with her" ;
"You look as flash as a rat with a gold tooth" ; "Yair, I feel like a pox
doctor's clerk"
Translation: "I see you're wearing a suit". ; " Yes, my wife asked me to
attend a formal dinner with her." ; "It's not often I see you dressed a
smartly as that" ; "Yes you're right, I'm not comfortable in these sorts of
clothes."

Current Americanised generation of Aussie kids wouldn't have a clue what we
were talking about either. "Yo brother, what those two old mother f......'s
talking 'bout?"

Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as an
endangered species. : )

A culturally endangered diggerop.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
> wrote:
>
>>Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
>>an
>>endangered species. : )
>>
>>A culturally endangered diggerop.
>
> Leads me to another question. Do most of you buggers understand the
> English speaking tourists that visit?


No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward English.
(It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie
character with it.)

Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke good
English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and friends. I can
still remember an occasion when I was very young and I'd broken some
ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining room. I thought
I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she merely said 'Och laddie,
dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant "that's all right son, no need to
be upset over it."

diggerop

"Jimmy Mac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2d1e1cb9-127d-4a81-90c2-e4fbd1a53703@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
Okay now - I hears me name has been dragged through the archives. Lo
and behold - THE GANG'S ALL HERE! LOL!

Good day to me Top Bloke at the bottom of the world - been a long time
Phully. Nahmie was kind enuff to send out the mention.

Jummy me old cobber . .!
Gudday mate . .. .

Now this may come as a bit of a shock to you . . but I have just gotten back
from the arfternoon ( well most of the day at really) having lunch in the
pub with a bunch of friends helping one of them have a bit of a birthday .
. . never seem to get tired of it . .
And before I flop onto one of the sofas and pretend to look at TV for a bit
before I wake up and go to bed, I thought I'd have a look in with my new
found interest in the wreck ( thanks to comment from Larry - and a call
from diggerop) and see who has popped up .. . .
And bugger me if there arent some of the old ratbags shoving theys two bobs
worth in again . . .

Now you as well thanks to good old Nahmie.
What was it Larry called us at the start when it was all just a big old bun
fight . .. . . the Jackalopes? Ah the memories of those fun times and all
the tears before bedtime . . and some woodworking titbits as well . .all
that lovely Jummywood

This is almost cause to start paying attention to Jean -who has been showing
me a whole lot of stuff lately about Cruising the Med . . .I might re awaken
my campaign to get me and the old boiler to Las Vegas instead .. . . .

Glad things are good for you Jums you old cowboy.
Off to my Sofa now - and will get back to you again soon.

Phully

I can open .TIF in my browser. I am using Opera 9.64. But they are
stored on my HDD. And I can see them on www.heritagequest.com when I am
looking for census images.

Mike in Ohio

Dave Balderstone wrote:
<snip>
>
> Please provide a URL that will display a TIFF graphic in a browser
> window.

Tom Watson wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), phil
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Gudday boys
>
>
> Good to see your voice, Phully.
>
> From Tom - in Philly, Phully.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom Watson
> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

I'll add an amen to that.
weirdly yours,
jo4hn

"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:56:38 +0800, the infamous "diggerop"
> <toobusy@themoment> scrawled the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. Damn,
>>> it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
>>> ain't got him yet. He slid down from Perth a while back.
>>>
>>> Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. Egad, tell him he needs a new web
>>> guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/
>>
>>
>>You can tell him yourself. : )
>>
>>I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day
>
> Excellent! Thankee, Dop. You're a gentleman, no matter what
> everyone always says.
>
You're welcome :)

> You're a gentleman, no matter what, everyone always says.

Stone the crows! No way are you hanging that label on me : )

diggerop

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> diggerop wrote:
>
>> A culturally endangered diggerop.
>
> Give us a dinky di rendition of Slim Dusty and The Bushlander's version of
> "The Dog Set On The Tucker Box Nine Miles From Gundagi", then Mate!
>
> (Last time I heard that I was 500 miles back of the Bourke, in Arnham
> Land). :)
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)


Could maybe still do that. Spent much of my youth playing in country bands.
We weren't any good, but had a lot of fun. I sang, played rythm guitar and
would you believe, button accordian. Used to earn more than my day job
playing 3 nights a week. Spent most of it on bikes and booze and broads.
...... the rest I just wasted. ; )
They were the best days.
I see kids today who have 10 times more ability and talent than I ever
dreamed of, who can't get a decent gig for free, let alone earn from it. How
the world has changed.

diggerop

"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), phil
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Gudday boys
>
>
> Good to see your voice, Phully.
>
> From Tom - in Philly, Phully.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom Watson
> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

Cheers Tom
You too mate
Anyone who starts to think they are a bit clever with their craft should go
and have a look at your work to bring them back to earth ,and give them
something to aspire to. . .

Phully far from Philly

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:24:05 -0800 (PST), the infamous Jimmy Mac
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>Okay now - I hears me name has been dragged through the archives. Lo
>and behold - THE GANG'S ALL HERE! LOL!
>
>Good day to me Top Bloke at the bottom of the world - been a long time
>Phully. Nahmie was kind enuff to send out the mention.
>
>Actually living in Las Vegas. Got a full time job doing the 9 to 5
>thing . . . a full time country band performing up and down the Strip
>(opening for the likes of Big and Rich, Reba McEntire, Dwight Yoakum)
>and believe it or not, got just enough tools left (or purchased) to
>build all my own redwood furniture (including octagon poker table) for

That's sure a step up from the sappy pineywood you used to work with,
Jums.


>my back yard. Unfortunately, you can't keep enough "juice" in wood
>outdoors in the desert - but I'm having fun with it.

It does get hot up yonder in Nee Vadder, doesn't it?


>I really do miss
>everyone and all the trouble we used to get into on the wreck. If
>anyone has any plans to come to Vegas, email me and let me know.
>I'll hook you up with the best places to stay and comp tickets for
>our show as well!

The only reason I'd be in Vegas would be to "talk to" that guy at
everycontractor.com who ripped me off for $3,000. The supposed
$45,000 worth of leads they were to have supplied, guaranted, amounted
to two jobs out of my area, both of which I didn't hadn't signed up
for. I'd best stay out of that area.


>Take care and holler back!

Ho! Hey, ya resawed any beans recently, suckah? (For you new guys,
DAGS on "resawed beans", and be sure to look for the picture!)

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:48:40 -0600, the infamous "Martin H. Eastburn"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>Larry -
>
>I was doing web designs on Sun 3 and Sun 4 boxes a long long time ago.
>Internally before the WorldWideWeb was shortened to WWW and other names.

Cool!


>Mosaic was the first 'Netscape' long before the other browsers and companies.

Yes, I used it as my first browser!


>Tiff was one of the primary formats a number of others - now mostly obscure.

Was it used mostly in the medical and/or scientific fields, for x-ray
transfers, astronomy, and such? It never made it to the wider public
that I know of.


>The web for me started in 1987 when I downloaded (via our FTP server)
>from CERN the install files for Mosaic. Two of us were tasked to get a
>division up and going. I did practical pages and collected graphics.

Ayup, you have 7-8 years on me there. I sure like what the Web has
turned into since then, don't you? Back then, it was a large step up
from the BBSes I hung out on, but look what it can do and provide
today. Amazing. I love it!


>I still have and use TIFF / TIF format - my camera generates TIF and JPG
>at the same time. And Jpg only.

My Nikon D-40 does RAW and JPG.


--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Nov 12, 5:04=A0pm, Nahmie <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 7:02=A0am, phil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> SNIP
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> My goodness, look at the gremlins pop out of the woodwork! Glad to
> "see" you, Phully & Larry.
>
> I hear from Jummy once in a while. Guess he's still into the
> construction, but also very active in a band
>
> www.brazosriverband.com
>
> Anyhoo, Hi to all. Legs/knees getting worse, so pretty much doing
> sitdown ww'ing, but I'm trying to work up some turned Christmas
> ornaments for presents @ our church Christmas party(chinese auction).
>
> Norm

Hi Nahmie - thanks for the "tip off" on the old Wrecker Resurrection!
This is great.

Jummy

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:39:59 -0800 (PST), the infamous Jimmy Mac
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On Nov 11, 5:02 am, phil <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > phil wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 11:01 PM:
>>
>> > > Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!
>>
>> > > Phully
>>
>> > Phully, mate! Blast from the past, and a good one too.
>> > Made my week, dammit! Heck, no: made my MONTH!
>>
>> > Sad to hear the news about the dropped appendage.
>> > Ah well, better than my general decrepitude: two ops and still another one to
>> > go, dickey right heel, an extra 30Kgs, etcetc...
>>
>> > How's Fluffy?  This one pisses me orf from time to time:http://tinyurl.com/yb8owbt
>> > (I know,I know: not the same thing. So what: it's a jpg!)
>>
>> > Good to see you're keeping busy mate.  I'll definitely pay a visit to the site
>> > now that I got its URL back: lost most of my old links a few years ago as a
>> > result of all the stupid relocations.
>>
>> > Hang in there! And stay safe from Ali Mussa, Ben Zongo and all the other nigerians.
>>
>> > Nuno (in Sydney)
>>
>> Nuno .? . . how wonderful. .
>> I am getting a chubby on  - I feel so good about all these old
>> w'rec'kers.
>> Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
>> three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
>> writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
>> athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!
>>
>> Mate- never move to the country for the quiet life  . .. . .!
>>
>> Good to hear from you.
>>
>> Phully- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Yer still my top bloke dont-ya know old man! LOL!

Jummykins! Good ta see ya again after all these years. Catch us up!


--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

Larry -

I was doing web designs on Sun 3 and Sun 4 boxes a long long time ago.
Internally before the WorldWideWeb was shortened to WWW and other names.

Mosaic was the first 'Netscape' long before the other browsers and companies.

Tiff was one of the primary formats a number of others - now mostly obscure.

The web for me started in 1987 when I downloaded (via our FTP server)
from CERN the install files for Mosaic. Two of us were tasked to get a
division up and going. I did practical pages and collected graphics.

I still have and use TIFF / TIF format - my camera generates TIF and JPG
at the same time. And Jpg only.

Martin

Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:47:25 -0600, the infamous "Martin H. Eastburn"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>> And what the ?x? - where is Tiff/Tif quality format.
>>
>> The web started with Tiff and gif and a few more on unix.
>> Tiff holds all of the data - more than the crappy views on some sites.
>>
>> Problem with new formats - who has an editor - a graphics program for them -
>> oh Microsoft only...
>
> Huh? That's news to me, Martin. It's always been GIF and JPG. TIF
> wasn't an available format on the Net until, hmmm, when? I didn't get
> the browser addon until 2006.
> Alternatiff didn't release until 2003.
>
> TIFF was used exclusively by the graphics gurus because it was a very
> high-resolution, large-format design. That's absolutely contrary to
> the Net.
>
> 'Course, I'm a newbie, not having started designing websites until
> 1995 or so. Back then, GIF was pretty much the only game in town.
>
> Got cites for widespread use of TIF on the Net in the last century?
> (I'm from Missouri, maam. Show me!)
>

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:47:25 -0600, the infamous "Martin H. Eastburn"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>And what the ?x? - where is Tiff/Tif quality format.
>
>The web started with Tiff and gif and a few more on unix.
>Tiff holds all of the data - more than the crappy views on some sites.
>
>Problem with new formats - who has an editor - a graphics program for them -
>oh Microsoft only...

Huh? That's news to me, Martin. It's always been GIF and JPG. TIF
wasn't an available format on the Net until, hmmm, when? I didn't get
the browser addon until 2006.
Alternatiff didn't release until 2003.

TIFF was used exclusively by the graphics gurus because it was a very
high-resolution, large-format design. That's absolutely contrary to
the Net.

'Course, I'm a newbie, not having started designing websites until
1995 or so. Back then, GIF was pretty much the only game in town.

Got cites for widespread use of TIF on the Net in the last century?
(I'm from Missouri, maam. Show me!)

--
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http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html
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On Nov 11, 11:03=A0am, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote:
> "Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> Reading the exchanges between Phully and yourself, it struck me that the
> everyday vernacular I use talking with my Aussie mates is nothing like th=
e
> way I express myself in the wreck.
> Mainly because I don't think anyone other than Aussies, or those like
> yourself who have spent time in this country would understand it if I did
> use Aussie expressions.
>
> A typical exchange from when I met up with a former New Zealander workmat=
e/
> friend.
> "G'day you horrible old bastard." =A0; =A0"Well I'll be buggered, if it i=
sn't
> the old Kiwi sheep shagger himself."
> Translation: both of us were saying "Hello old friend, it's really good t=
o
> see you"
>
> "So, how've you been?" ; "Crook as a dog mate" ; "what a bastard"
> Translation: So how is your health?; =A0"Not good, I've been quite ill," =
;
> "That's a shame, I'm sorry to hear it."
>
> "So, what's with the bag of fruit?" ; =A0"The missus wants me to go to th=
is
> bunfight with her" ;
> "You look as flash as a rat with a gold tooth" ; =A0"Yair, I feel like a =
pox
> doctor's clerk"
> Translation: "I see you're wearing a suit". ; " Yes, my wife asked me to
> attend a formal dinner with her." =A0; =A0"It's not often I see you dress=
ed a
> smartly as that" =A0; "Yes you're right, I'm not comfortable in these sor=
ts of
> clothes."
>
> Current Americanised generation of Aussie kids wouldn't have a clue what =
we
> were talking about either. "Yo brother, what those two old mother f......=
's
> talking 'bout?"
>
> Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as =
an
> endangered species. =A0 =A0 : )
>
> A culturally endangered diggerop.

Ah my dear brother Larry - you forgot that Phully does not refer to
his wife as his wife . . . she would be the old boiler! LOL!

Jummy

Jimmy Mac wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2:48 pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Tom Watson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), phil
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Gudday boys
>>> Good to see your voice, Phully.
>>> From Tom - in Philly, Phully.
>>> Regards,
>>> Tom Watson
>>> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
>> I'll add an amen to that.
>> weirdly yours,
>> jo4hn- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Mahalo old friend!
>
> Jummy
>
Alooooooooohaaa Jums. It's good to hear from you, Phully, Nahmie, yes
and even (laying his hand aside of his mouth) C-less. :-)
Now when the Duke of URLs shows up...
mahalo (from SoCal mountains where it was 20dF this morning),
jo4hn

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:20:33 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:

>In article
><[email protected]>,
>phil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
>> three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
>> writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
>> athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!
>
>Buggerit, mate, haven't you heard of the SawStop down there? Or maybe
>it doesn't work upside down?

Yeah, in Oz, it jumps up and take the entire hand off.
Very Highly Not Recommended.

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====================================================

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:35:52 -0800 (PST), the infamous Jimmy Mac
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On Nov 11, 11:03 am, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote:
>> "Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>> Reading the exchanges between Phully and yourself, it struck me that the
>> everyday vernacular I use talking with my Aussie mates is nothing like the
>> way I express myself in the wreck.
>> Mainly because I don't think anyone other than Aussies, or those like
>> yourself who have spent time in this country would understand it if I did
>> use Aussie expressions.
>>
>> A typical exchange from when I met up with a former New Zealander workmate/
>> friend.
>> "G'day you horrible old bastard."  ;  "Well I'll be buggered, if it isn't
>> the old Kiwi sheep shagger himself."
>> Translation: both of us were saying "Hello old friend, it's really good to
>> see you"
>>
>> "So, how've you been?" ; "Crook as a dog mate" ; "what a bastard"
>> Translation: So how is your health?;  "Not good, I've been quite ill," ;
>> "That's a shame, I'm sorry to hear it."
>>
>> "So, what's with the bag of fruit?" ;  "The missus wants me to go to this
>> bunfight with her" ;
>> "You look as flash as a rat with a gold tooth" ;  "Yair, I feel like a pox
>> doctor's clerk"
>> Translation: "I see you're wearing a suit". ; " Yes, my wife asked me to
>> attend a formal dinner with her."  ;  "It's not often I see you dressed a
>> smartly as that"  ; "Yes you're right, I'm not comfortable in these sorts of
>> clothes."
>>
>> Current Americanised generation of Aussie kids wouldn't have a clue what we
>> were talking about either. "Yo brother, what those two old mother f......'s
>> talking 'bout?"
>>
>> Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as an
>> endangered species.     : )
>>
>> A culturally endangered diggerop.
>
>Ah my dear brother Larry - you forgot that Phully does not refer to
>his wife as his wife . . . she would be the old boiler! LOL!

There are two problems with the above post. One, Dop thinks I was in
Oz at some time in my life. The truth is that I've only been there in
my nightmares, er, dreams; yeah, that's it.

Two, you think I called the old boiler "wife", but my text isn't even
included in any of the above post. The word was used in Dop's xlation.

So there. Pffft! Mr. Smarty Pants Millionaire. Pffft! Mr. College
Professor. Pffft! Mr. Beatnick. Pffft! Mr, Hippie!

--
When we are planning for posterity,
we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.
-- Thomas Paine

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
wrote:

>Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as an
>endangered species. : )
>
>A culturally endangered diggerop.

Leads me to another question. Do most of you buggers understand the
English speaking tourists that visit?

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:50 -0800 (PST), the infamous Nahmie
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On Nov 11, 7:02 am, phil <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>SNIP
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>My goodness, look at the gremlins pop out of the woodwork! Glad to
>"see" you, Phully & Larry.

Hey, same here, Nahmie. I should say "Hi!" to Noons, too, since I
haven't talked to him since coming back.


>I hear from Jummy once in a while. Guess he's still into the
>construction, but also very active in a band
>
>www.brazosriverband.com

Well, when he ain't hackin' away at pineywood, he's hackin' away at
C&W music, huh? Ain't that sweet? [Hey, Jums! Throw a nice, long,
sensual hug and a liplock on Amie for me, will ya? Yowza! Schweet!)
(Oops, hope she's not your woman.)] Hmm, there sure are a lot of good
looking women singing Country, aren't there? Jums looks to be doing
well.


>Anyhoo, Hi to all. Legs/knees getting worse, so pretty much doing
>sitdown ww'ing, but I'm trying to work up some turned Christmas
>ornaments for presents @ our church Christmas party(chinese auction).

My wrists are starting to get to me, so I may not be doing the larger
handyman jobs in the future.

Have you lowered your shop to suit seated wooddorking yet, Nahmie? the
nice thing about benches and such is that you can hack 'em off at the
knees if you want, or drop 'em and open 'em up so you can roll into
them with an electric chair. Oops, I meant "electric wheelchair",
didn't I? I've been assembling and delivering Jazzy carts and chairs
to the locals for the last year, too, and installing those "Help! I've
fallen and can't get up!" Life Alert units, too.

With my shop so crowded with junk, I've done most of my wooddorking
outside, on horses and the grass. Not "fine" by any means, but it's
mostly construction work, so it's no biggie.

Take care!

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:56:38 +0800, the infamous "diggerop"
<toobusy@themoment> scrawled the following:

>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. Damn,
>> it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
>> ain't got him yet. He slid down from Perth a while back.
>>
>> Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. Egad, tell him he needs a new web
>> guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/
>
>
>You can tell him yourself. : )
>
>I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day

Excellent! Thankee, Dop. You're a gentleman, no matter what
everyone always says.

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Thesaurus: Ancient reptile with excellent vocabulary
====================================================

Dave when did you do your first web site ?

Web graphics can be in TIFF or TIF(if pc) - the only reason for the
lower resolution of JPG is faster loads. When data is wanted and speed
isn't the need - use TIF.

It just wasn't in your use.
And 2004 is not early in web sites at all.

If you were an Apple person - maybe TIF wasn't allowed on an apple.
Apple had graphics problems due to resolution issues.

Graphics that worked on my Sun and my PC would not function on a Mac.
It was painful for me to get a graphic low enough resolution and low color
count for my managers Mac. Engineers spent to much time changing for managers.

Martin


Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <s%[email protected]>, Martin
> H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We were using FrameMaker big time - they were down the street - cool software.
>> It was growing and we made it a company standard. The pc managers got a copy
>> and both sides of the building were happy.
>
> Apple was still using Frame at least 2004 for documentation, but TIFF
> was never a web graphic format, Martin.

phil wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 11:01 PM:

>
> Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!
>
> Phully



Phully, mate! Blast from the past, and a good one too.
Made my week, dammit! Heck, no: made my MONTH!

Sad to hear the news about the dropped appendage.
Ah well, better than my general decrepitude: two ops and still another one to
go, dickey right heel, an extra 30Kgs, etcetc...

How's Fluffy? This one pisses me orf from time to time:
http://tinyurl.com/yb8owbt
(I know,I know: not the same thing. So what: it's a jpg!)

Good to see you're keeping busy mate. I'll definitely pay a visit to the site
now that I got its URL back: lost most of my old links a few years ago as a
result of all the stupid relocations.

Hang in there! And stay safe from Ali Mussa, Ben Zongo and all the other nigerians.

Nuno (in Sydney)

diggerop wrote,on my timestamp of 12/11/2009 6:03 AM:

>
> Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
> an endangered species. : )
>
> A culturally endangered diggerop.


LOL!
Hey dig: if you get a chance, go watch "Charlie and Boots" at the movies.
With Paul Hogan. Worth your while mate, I promise! Cracked me up.
Stay all the way: there is an insider's joke in the credits about the Sydney
coathanger.

"diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
>>>an
>>>endangered species. : )
>>>
>>>A culturally endangered diggerop.
>>
>> Leads me to another question. Do most of you buggers understand the
>> English speaking tourists that visit?
>
>
> No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
> understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
> can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward
> English. (It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique
> Aussie character with it.)
>
> Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke good
> English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and friends. I
> can still remember an occasion when I was very young and I'd broken some
> ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining room. I thought
> I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she merely said 'Och laddie,
> dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant "that's all right son, no need to
> be upset over it."
>
I had a visitor from Scotland by last Saturday, I think he must have laid
the
dialect on thick just for my confusion and his amusement, when it came down
to
business, I noticed most of the incomprehensible bits dissappeared and we
communicated just fine. I will say that I enjoyed listening even if I
couldn't
make out a lot of the references.

basilisk

basilisk wrote:
> "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...

>> No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a
>> language we understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of
>> a dialect,) which can prove confusing for others, along with
>> speaking straightforward English. (It really is dying out though
>> and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie character with it.)
>>
>> Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke
>> good English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and
>> friends. I can still remember an occasion when I was very young and
>> I'd broken some ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining
>> room. I thought I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she
>> merely said 'Och laddie, dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant
>> "that's all right son, no need to be upset over it."
>>
> I had a visitor from Scotland by last Saturday, I think he must have
> laid the dialect on thick just for my confusion and his amusement,
> when it came down to business, I noticed most of the incomprehensible
> bits dissappeared and we communicated just fine. I will say that I
> enjoyed listening even if I couldn't make out a lot of the
> references.

My widowed grandmother brought her four kids to the US from Edinburgh
during the depression. She worked in Chicago as a nurse and worked hard
to lose all trace of her "burr". After a few years she returned to visit
her sister in Ayr for two weeks, during which time she re-acquired her
accent fully and maintained it carefully for the next sixty-some years. :)

I have to laugh /with/ her. I was born in Georgia, and when I moved to
northern Indiana and started school, the kids made fun of how I "tawk'd"
and, according to my mother, it took less than week for me to lose all
trace of my drawl.

Fast forward to late fifties - I returned to to the Atlanta area to
spend a school Christmas vacation with the folks who'd been next door
neighbors when I'd been an ankle-biter. They'd set up blind dates for
every evening leading up to a big New Year's dance - for which I was
expected to ask one of the young ladies to accompany me (I felt like I'd
fallen into a time warp). First date told me I tawkt lahk a damnyankee
(lip curled). Second date remarked that I had a trace of yankee accent
and asked where I'd picked /that/ up (with an overtone suggesting that
perhaps penicillin might help). By the third evening I'd worked the bugs
out and everything went smoothly thereafter (I did invite a gorgeous
young belle to the dance and had a great time). Just before I returned
to school, my "improvement" was recognized with a certificate making me
an honorary colonel in the Confederate underground. :)

But for the life of me, I can't speak with a Scottish burr. :-]

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

diggerop wrote:

> So, ye wuid nae say a braw bricht moonlicht nicht, the nicht then?

Aye, I canna. Interestingly, I can /hear/ the words as I read them - but
my tongue and palate conspire to prevent proper rendition.

> Kids are amazingly adaptable. We had my father with his trace of Irish
> accent, and daily use of the Irish way of expression, my Grandmother
> with her soft Scottish burr, and my mother with her everyday Ausie
> accent. We had no idea at all that each of them spoke in a different
> manner. We could understand them, therefore there was no difference to
> us as kids.
>
> One thing that did click with me in later years was the realisation that
> I unconciously adopted each of their accents when speaking to them. So
> that a scottish burr comes naturally to me. Or irish expression.

I wonderful bit of learning, that! I hear them as musical, to be heard
and enjoyed, but beyond my ability to reproduce. Probably because of my
grandmother, I warm to the Scottish burr - and I understand why the
Irish write poetry and seem to enjoy hearing themselves speak. :-))

> It happened that the burr stood me in very good stead in learning Bahasa
> Indonesia. They roll their r's just as the Scots do, something that
> doesn't come easily to Aussies.

Nor, I think to most Americans. A clerk in a Paris bookstore tried for
some 15 minutes to coach a rolled 'R' from me so that I could say
"Louvrrrre" properly, then (apparently in total frustration) switched to
English and asked that I do the same.

I do a pretty good pirate "Arr!", though. :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Yes.

Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Michael Kenefick
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> www.heritagequest.com allows census images to be downloaded this way.
>> The other option is a PDF. 80% of the images I have are in .TIF.
>>
>> Mike in Ohio
>
> Downloaded.
>
> Displayed in a web browser?

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), phil
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Gudday boys


Good to see your voice, Phully.

From Tom - in Philly, Phully.




Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:21:41 +0800, the infamous "diggerop"
<toobusy@themoment> scrawled the following:

>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> There are two problems with the above post. One, Dop thinks I was in
>> Oz at some time in my life. The truth is that I've only been there in
>> my nightmares, er, dreams; yeah, that's it.
>>
>
>Maaate.......
>I'm terribly saddened to hear that. Imagine never having been to Oz.
>I can only guess at what a painful gaping hole that would leave in a man's
>soul.

I'll thank you to leave my gapers alone. <huff>

After seeing all the scenery in the Crocodile Dundee films, I really
wanted to tour Oz.

Oh, Rachel and Sela Ward (va va VOOM!), Anna Paquin, Nicole Kidman,
Cate Blanchette, Anna Torv, Yvonne Strzechowski, Miranda Otto, Rose
Byrne, Rachel Griffiths, Emilie de Ravin, and all the other gorgeous
actresses are from there. THANKS for sharing!

I've enjoyed watching Aussie actors Heath Ledger, Mel Gibson, Hugh
Jackman, and Russell Crowe, too, besides Paul Hogan, my-man!


>Must be like a honeybee forced to live on vinegar all it's life. Knowing
>that ther's all that sweet nectar going begging and instead he gets the
>bitter crap.
>Never mind mate, - I can tell you that this is the best place on earth,
>has the sexiest friendliest Sheilas, the best climate and the best booze.
>I'll be only too happy to let you know in great detail, at any time, just
>how much you've missed out on.
>After all, what are mates for?

Roit. ;) Yeah, I've always wanted to vacation there, but it's just
too damned expensive to fly halfway across the world for a week.

--
When we are planning for posterity,
we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.
-- Thomas Paine

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:58:06 +0900, the infamous "philip"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>Aw Lassa . .
>I knew what a jaypeg was . . .I just dont know how to make it pretty on my
>web site given that I did the thing in Publisher .. but now that you have
>wound me up I will have a go at changing the images . . somehow .. ! But
>thanks for the info.
>Remember I arent very clever like you.

Publisher? <kaff, kaff, kaff> Condolences, as that was a poorly
done, last-century program. Don't tell me, you got it "cheap"?


>Home and Garden Handy man . .. ? helping ladies . .. ? strewth mate . .. !
>
>Bad bad news about your finger/wrist buggerising up . .

It's almost back to normal now, 'cept for the pain in using it.


>Still havent used that stuff I sent you ?.. crickey! it must have doubled
>in size by now ..

I only wish! But I know, for certain sure, that the larger slabs are
dry all the way through now.


>Will get some pics for you of the tin palace . . and the new Workshop etc .

Bueno, bwana.

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Thesaurus: Ancient reptile with excellent vocabulary
====================================================

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:20:57 -0500, the infamous [email protected]
scrawled the following:

>On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:11:01 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
>wrote:
>
>>> Hell, you could start your own "what is it?" group which is posted
>>> here regularly. Only, in your case you say something and we try to
>>> figure out what it is. Sounds like fun to me.
>>
>>
>>I'll do that .... could be entertaining : )
>
>Give it a try. Post a half dozen lines of text and then let people try
>to interpret them. (No hidden Aussies or New Zealanders allowed to
>answer). I suspect your dialect is laced with the occasional
>profanity, so we'll allow you to use it. Give it a little time for
>people to answer (you can choose the time period) and then you can
>judge which answers come closest. We can call it something like
>Diggerop's Dictionary.

Oops, I might have blown that with the link in my last post.
So solly.

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====================================================

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:37:50 +0800, the infamous "diggerop"
<toobusy@themoment> scrawled the following:

><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
>>>an
>>>endangered species. : )
>>>
>>>A culturally endangered diggerop.
>>
>> Leads me to another question. Do most of you buggers understand the
>> English speaking tourists that visit?
>
>
>No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
>understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
>can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward English.
>(It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie
>character with it.)

So you were taught English and slouched into Aussie, right? Got it.
Over here we have Ebonics, Cajun, Chicano, Yooper, Suthun, Hindish
(Hindu English with a strong British accent) and half a dozen more
mixes of those.

For the others, who have trouble translating you (or wondering what
you Bunyips are) here's a nice Aussie Dictionary site:
http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
> wrote:
>
>
>>A culturally endangered diggerop.
>
> I suspect most of us older wreckers would understand it. Those that
> didn't would likely get a good laugh out of it at least.
>
> Hell, you could start your own "what is it?" group which is posted
> here regularly. Only, in your case you say something and we try to
> figure out what it is. Sounds like fun to me.


I'll do that .... could be entertaining : )

diggerop

"Noons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> diggerop wrote,on my timestamp of 12/11/2009 6:03 AM:
>
>>
>> Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
>> an endangered species. : )
>>
>> A culturally endangered diggerop.
>
>
> LOL!
> Hey dig: if you get a chance, go watch "Charlie and Boots" at the movies.
> With Paul Hogan. Worth your while mate, I promise! Cracked me up.
> Stay all the way: there is an insider's joke in the credits about the
> Sydney coathanger.


Thanks Noons, saw it a few weeks ago when the missus dragged me along. (No
self respecting Aussie bloke will admit to actually *wanting* to go to the
movies.) Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Hoges' line about how long it takes to paint the the coathanger was
hilarious.

diggerop

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, the infamous "diggerop"
<toobusy@themoment> scrawled the following:

>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>
>Reading the exchanges between Phully and yourself, it struck me that the
>everyday vernacular I use talking with my Aussie mates is nothing like the
>way I express myself in the wreck.
>Mainly because I don't think anyone other than Aussies, or those like
>yourself who have spent time in this country would understand it if I did
>use Aussie expressions.
>
>A typical exchange from when I met up with a former New Zealander workmate/
>friend.
>"G'day you horrible old bastard." ; "Well I'll be buggered, if it isn't
>the old Kiwi sheep shagger himself."
>Translation: both of us were saying "Hello old friend, it's really good to
>see you"
>
>"So, how've you been?" ; "Crook as a dog mate" ; "what a bastard"
>Translation: So how is your health?; "Not good, I've been quite ill," ;
>"That's a shame, I'm sorry to hear it."
>
>"So, what's with the bag of fruit?" ; "The missus wants me to go to this
>bunfight with her" ;
>"You look as flash as a rat with a gold tooth" ; "Yair, I feel like a pox
>doctor's clerk"
>Translation: "I see you're wearing a suit". ; " Yes, my wife asked me to
>attend a formal dinner with her." ; "It's not often I see you dressed a
>smartly as that" ; "Yes you're right, I'm not comfortable in these sorts of
>clothes."
>
>Current Americanised generation of Aussie kids wouldn't have a clue what we
>were talking about either. "Yo brother, what those two old mother f......'s
>talking 'bout?"
>
>Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as an
>endangered species. : )
>
>A culturally endangered diggerop.

'Ave a go, Dop. I understood most of that prior to your translations.

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:37:01 +0800, the infamous "diggerop"
<toobusy@themoment> scrawled the following:

>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
>>>understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
>>>can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward
>>>English.
>>>(It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie
>>>character with it.)
>>
>> So you were taught English and slouched into Aussie, right? Got it.
>
>Mate. I have to tell yer, The lapse was in using the Pommy version of
>English instead of Strine.

But of course, _you'd_ think of it that way.

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On Nov 10, 8:56 pm, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote:
>> "Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. Damn,
>> > it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
>> > ain't got him yet. He slid down from Perth a while back.
>>
>> > Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. Egad, tell him he needs a new web
>> > guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/
>>
>> You can tell him yourself. : )
>>
>> I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day
>>
>> diggerop
>
>Gudday boys

G'day, Phullymate.


>Yup still alive and kicking . ..
>Been a long while since I looked in here, aint it all different . ..?
>Thanks to a phone call last night from a nice bloke telling me that
>Larry had asked after me . . I thought I would say hi.
>Also had an email from Mario ( in Buffalo) a while ago ( which I
>havent replied to properly yet - sorry mate will get to it)

It's damed good to hear from you, Phil.


>Very busy - 12 month waiting list ( mainly thanks to that crappy
>website wot I built with my own fair hands )

Switch to JPGs or PNGs so you get the colors and clarity, dude!


>Busy moving into our new Workshop Gallery what I also built with my
>own fair hands

Cool. Got JPGs? <g>


>Which by the way are now bereft of the end of my favourite left index
>finger wot I ran through the 10 inch buzzer a couple of months
>ago . . .

All I did with mine was break it, well, the right index distal
phalanx, anyway. Sorry to hear about your loss, Stubby.


>Any way just a quick hullo as i am just off to move more stuff out of
>the old shop into the new one.

Thanks for stopping by.

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We were using FrameMaker big time - they were down the street - cool software.
It was growing and we made it a company standard. The pc managers got a copy
and both sides of the building were happy.

It was great as I could import HPGL plots from my HP scopes and network analyzer
machines and do reports. Not much supported that plot file structure.

Martin

Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:48:40 -0600, the infamous "Martin H. Eastburn"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>> Larry -
>>
>> I was doing web designs on Sun 3 and Sun 4 boxes a long long time ago.
>> Internally before the WorldWideWeb was shortened to WWW and other names.
>
> Cool!
>
>
>> Mosaic was the first 'Netscape' long before the other browsers and companies.
>
> Yes, I used it as my first browser!
>
>
>> Tiff was one of the primary formats a number of others - now mostly obscure.
>
> Was it used mostly in the medical and/or scientific fields, for x-ray
> transfers, astronomy, and such? It never made it to the wider public
> that I know of.
>
>
>> The web for me started in 1987 when I downloaded (via our FTP server)
>>from CERN the install files for Mosaic. Two of us were tasked to get a
>> division up and going. I did practical pages and collected graphics.
>
> Ayup, you have 7-8 years on me there. I sure like what the Web has
> turned into since then, don't you? Back then, it was a large step up
> from the BBSes I hung out on, but look what it can do and provide
> today. Amazing. I love it!
>
>
>> I still have and use TIFF / TIF format - my camera generates TIF and JPG
>> at the same time. And Jpg only.
>
> My Nikon D-40 does RAW and JPG.
>
>
> --
> You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
> OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
> the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

diggerop wrote:

> A culturally endangered diggerop.

Give us a dinky di rendition of Slim Dusty and The Bushlander's version
of "The Dog Set On The Tucker Box Nine Miles From Gundagi", then Mate!

(Last time I heard that I was 500 miles back of the Bourke, in Arnham
Land). :)

--
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Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Swingman said:

>Greg G. wrote:
>> Swingman said:
>>
>>> diggerop wrote:
>>>
>>>> A culturally endangered diggerop.
>>> Give us a dinky di rendition of Slim Dusty and The Bushlander's version
>>> of "The Dog Set On The Tucker Box Nine Miles From Gundagi", then Mate!
>>>
>>> (Last time I heard that I was 500 miles back of the Bourke, in Arnham
>>> Land). :)
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SLIM-DUSTY-HIS-BUSHLANDERS-AUSSIE-SING-SONG-CD_W0QQitemZ360187833138QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Audio_CDs?hash=item53dcde2b32
>>
>> Yes, it's there. Excepting the memory fade...
>
>Damn, you're right about memories ... one time I could, and did, sing
>every song on that album after a few Darwin stubbies!

Quite a sight, I'm sure. Tempted to buy that dang thing for laughs.
Rumour has it the Carlton brewery manager in Darwin was told by his
doctor to cut his drinking to 1 stubby a day, thus the 2 litre stubby
was born. ;-)

>Reminds of hitchhiking from the Alice to Darwin, back when the bitumen
>was a trek not taken lightly.

I can see it now - a 6'2" brumby buster staggering down the middle of
the bitumen singing 70s Oz cowboy songs by moonlight. The good life.
Hope you wore good boots and traveled at night on foot to avoid
becoming part of the scenery. (Doesn't that stuff get pretty sticky in
the January sun?)


Greg G.

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:28:49 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:

>In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>> Huh? That's news to me, Martin. It's always been GIF and JPG.
>
>The first formats were GIF, Xbm and Xpm.
>
><http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/11/02/why-do-we-have-an-img-eleme
>nt>

Interesting. Xbm and Xpm? Nevahoiduvit. I didn't see Martin's TIF
in there, and that was just before I started up.

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

Swingman said:

>diggerop wrote:
>
>> A culturally endangered diggerop.
>
>Give us a dinky di rendition of Slim Dusty and The Bushlander's version
>of "The Dog Set On The Tucker Box Nine Miles From Gundagi", then Mate!
>
>(Last time I heard that I was 500 miles back of the Bourke, in Arnham
>Land). :)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SLIM-DUSTY-HIS-BUSHLANDERS-AUSSIE-SING-SONG-CD_W0QQitemZ360187833138QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Audio_CDs?hash=item53dcde2b32

Yes, it's there. Excepting the memory fade...


Greg G.

This was an old version - long time ago.
And I use TIF/TIFF when I want full graphics.

Otherwise you get compressed junk that might look ok and might not.

My camera generates it and it is a high quality picture.

NASA posts TIF in the their very high res pictures.

It isn't new it is one of the older versions.

The newest is a short movie as a picture. Getting out of hand.
On internal nets - all sorts of formats are used. On external webs lots of
formats are used but mostly bmp and jpg.

Map formats are TIF or other professional formats.
Scientific drawings are in Tif - I have a DNA drawing in that format.
And naturally lots of personal pictures as well.

Ever write documents or draw in post script ? or .eps ? That is why
HP printers have post script options. People now days use pdf of something else.

I have the programming manual.

Martin

Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Martin H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Widely ? - likely not. Not many were doing web design when I was starting.
>> One had to be on the inside of very high tech science to have access to
>> the early version of browser. We were writing how to files as there were
>> not any paperbacks or documents to be found.
>>
>> Our internal network was in swing while the outside was in Bulletin boards.
>
> I don't know of any use of TIFF as a standard web graphic format.
>
> Please cite.