I have solid oak Kitchen cabinets original when house built 18 yrs
ago. They have a light cherry stain and are in great shape. SMBO and
myself cleaned them twice a year with murphy's oil. The problem is the
wife wants to redo the cabinets in the light pickled look. The cabinet
doors and front frames look easy enough to stip the polyeurathane and
sand them. I'm concerned about the sides which are oak faced plywood.
Sanding the sides may be out of the question.
Looking for suggestions other than replacing all the sides and pickle
them.
On 5 Nov 2003 03:42:55 -0800, [email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
>I have solid oak Kitchen cabinets original when house built 18 yrs
>ago. They have a light cherry stain and are in great shape. SMBO and
>myself cleaned them twice a year with murphy's oil. The problem is the
>wife wants to redo the cabinets in the light pickled look. The cabinet
>doors and front frames look easy enough to stip the polyeurathane and
>sand them. I'm concerned about the sides which are oak faced plywood.
>Sanding the sides may be out of the question.
>Looking for suggestions other than replacing all the sides and pickle
>them.
I'm redoing mine right now...using a product called Ready Strip.
Bought it on QVC...but they have a web site, I think, where you can
order it.
Great product...no odor...no gloves necessary and no ventilation
necessary (for most people)...semi-paste...hardly runs...turns white
when its ready to come off...comes off as a dry product, not a gooey
mess...clean up with vacuum cleaner.
I stripped the doors with my RotoZip...'cause I could take them off
and outside...and did the frame with the rs.
Good luck.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
Make end panel that match the doors and secure from inside the cabinet.
this will also give you will have a richer look than flat panels
Good Luck,
George
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have solid oak Kitchen cabinets original when house built 18 yrs
> ago. They have a light cherry stain and are in great shape. SMBO and
> myself cleaned them twice a year with murphy's oil. The problem is the
> wife wants to redo the cabinets in the light pickled look. The cabinet
> doors and front frames look easy enough to stip the polyeurathane and
> sand them. I'm concerned about the sides which are oak faced plywood.
> Sanding the sides may be out of the question.
> Looking for suggestions other than replacing all the sides and pickle
> them.
"Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I read the comments posted so far and no one has questioned exactly what you
> plan to use for the finish coat - stain, oil or water based or oil or water
> based paint? You can purchase or make your own for this finishing method and
> that's what pickling is - a method not a finish.
>
> If you're using either oil or a water based paint, I question the need to
> strip the cabinets at all. A light sanding to provide some "tooth" in the
> existing finish (after a thorough cleaning to remove the wax) is all that
> should be necessary. Using a penetrating stain, would require getting down
> to bare wood and since these have a finish on them already, you would never
> get it out of the pores anyway even with a stripper and I don't see what you
> would gain using that. A gel stain would be like using paint.
>
> Check out the product instructions and see what they advise but I think
> you're putting more effort into this than what is required to achieve the
> same end result.
>
> Bob S.
Bob
Thanks for you're response. You raise very good points. I was planning
to use Minwax stains which they have some pickled look stain products.
I did not check to see if they were oil based. I assumed they were,
don't want to use water based or gel stain. I 'm aware that not all
the stain will be removed from pores but was thinking that the darker
garin features of the cherry stain that's presently on now will give
the pickling more character or grainy look. I think she just wants
cabinets a lighter color. If I understood you corectly you are saying
only a light sanding to remove the wax and I believe there's a coat or
two of polyeurothane on the cabinets. If that is all that is required
than it's an easier job than I preveously thought. Also after pickling
do I need a protective coat such as poyeurothane on the cabinets to
protct the finish?
>
> "dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have solid oak Kitchen cabinets original when house built 18 yrs
> > ago. They have a light cherry stain and are in great shape. SMBO and
> > myself cleaned them twice a year with murphy's oil. The problem is the
> > wife wants to redo the cabinets in the light pickled look. The cabinet
> > doors and front frames look easy enough to stip the polyeurathane and
> > sand them. I'm concerned about the sides which are oak faced plywood.
> > Sanding the sides may be out of the question.
> > Looking for suggestions other than replacing all the sides and pickle
> > them.
I read the comments posted so far and no one has questioned exactly what you
plan to use for the finish coat - stain, oil or water based or oil or water
based paint? You can purchase or make your own for this finishing method and
that's what pickling is - a method not a finish.
If you're using either oil or a water based paint, I question the need to
strip the cabinets at all. A light sanding to provide some "tooth" in the
existing finish (after a thorough cleaning to remove the wax) is all that
should be necessary. Using a penetrating stain, would require getting down
to bare wood and since these have a finish on them already, you would never
get it out of the pores anyway even with a stripper and I don't see what you
would gain using that. A gel stain would be like using paint.
Check out the product instructions and see what they advise but I think
you're putting more effort into this than what is required to achieve the
same end result.
Bob S.
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have solid oak Kitchen cabinets original when house built 18 yrs
> ago. They have a light cherry stain and are in great shape. SMBO and
> myself cleaned them twice a year with murphy's oil. The problem is the
> wife wants to redo the cabinets in the light pickled look. The cabinet
> doors and front frames look easy enough to stip the polyeurathane and
> sand them. I'm concerned about the sides which are oak faced plywood.
> Sanding the sides may be out of the question.
> Looking for suggestions other than replacing all the sides and pickle
> them.
Use mineral spirits (as one example) to remove the wax and then follow that
with a good wipe down then a light sanding to scratch (150 grit) the
previous finish to give the next coat something to grip.
I'm not familiar with a lot of finishing products out there but as I recall,
the Minwax pickling product is a gel stain. You apply it to raw wood or
stained wood and rub it into the grain and then wipe off the excess to get
the look you want. You already have a dark color and it has a finish coat
so your options are a bit limited. I would take a door off and go to a local
shop that specializes in paints/finishes (like a Sherman Williams) and ask
them what product they would recommend.
Bob S.
> Thanks for you're response. You raise very good points. I was planning
> to use Minwax stains which they have some pickled look stain products.
> I did not check to see if they were oil based. I assumed they were,
> don't want to use water based or gel stain. I 'm aware that not all
> the stain will be removed from pores but was thinking that the darker
> garin features of the cherry stain that's presently on now will give
> the pickling more character or grainy look. I think she just wants
> cabinets a lighter color. If I understood you corectly you are saying
> only a light sanding to remove the wax and I believe there's a coat or
> two of polyeurothane on the cabinets. If that is all that is required
> than it's an easier job than I preveously thought. Also after pickling
> do I need a protective coat such as poyeurothane on the cabinets to
> protct the finish?
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have solid oak Kitchen cabinets original when house built 18 yrs
> ago. They have a light cherry stain and are in great shape. SMBO and
> myself cleaned them twice a year with murphy's oil. The problem is the
> wife wants to redo the cabinets in the light pickled look. The cabinet
> doors and front frames look easy enough to stip the polyeurathane and
> sand them. I'm concerned about the sides which are oak faced plywood.
> Sanding the sides may be out of the question.
> Looking for suggestions other than replacing all the sides and pickle
I have a wife with similiar ambitions for me! My plan is to reface the
cabinets with a pva backed veneer. She has her heart set on hickory. For
the doors, I plan on making new ones out of solid hickory. I'm going to
finish them with watco wipe on poly. That's my plan and I'm sticking to it.
;-) Good luck and happy cabineting.
SH
Replace swmbo......
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have solid oak Kitchen cabinets original when house built 18 yrs
> ago. They have a light cherry stain and are in great shape. SMBO and
> myself cleaned them twice a year with murphy's oil. The problem is the
> wife wants to redo the cabinets in the light pickled look. The cabinet
> doors and front frames look easy enough to stip the polyeurathane and
> sand them. I'm concerned about the sides which are oak faced plywood.
> Sanding the sides may be out of the question.
> Looking for suggestions other than replacing all the sides and pickle
> them.