A 100# anvil with "England" and "JB" cast on it will be auctioned
locally at an estate auction house tomorrow. My online "research"
indicates the JB stands for John Brooks and that it made before WW-II. I
think it is in "good" condition. I assume an anvil worth shipping from
England is probably a decent anvil...
I'll report the selling price tomorrow (for the sake of anyone who is
interested)! Any hints on what a fair bid would be? I'd enjoy getting
it for less than a fair bid! : )
Bill
On May 18, 8:22=A0pm, basilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2011 15:38:03 -0700, Robatoy wrote:
> > On May 18, 2:05=A0pm, basilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:09:45 -0500, Swingman wrote:
> >> > On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>
> >> >> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there hasn't
> >> >> been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50 years and never will
> >> >> be again.
>
> >> > I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
> >> > exactly what it was intended for. What would make it more proper?
>
> >> > Not arguing, just wondering ...
>
> >> A good anvil will have a cast semi steel base and a slab of high carbo=
n
> >> tool steel forge welded to the top.
>
> >> That combination will provide good rebound and make for a long life
> >> anvil that will survive even heavy work.
>
> >> Rebound is essential to keep from wearing the smith out.
>
> >> A cheap cast anvil will cover most of what people need to do these day=
s
> >> but someone making forged knives or handmade wrought iron work in
> >> volume would need better equipment.
>
> >> basilisk
>
> > As a kid, I was a blacksmith's helper. I am talking about 7-8 yrs old.
> > The blacksmith in question was a client of my dad's firm and he always
> > got a kick out of my curiosity. Most of the 'work' was wire-brushing
> > grates out of coal-burning space heaters and sweeping. On a lucky day, =
I
> > would get to watch him putting new shoes on a horse and if I was really
> > lucky, one of those horses would be huge and would be wearing socks (or
> > so I was told). In retrospect those must have been Belgians. I would
> > always cringe and worry about the hot shoes hitting the hooves...and
> > that smell.. I will never forget that smell. The shop was old school
> > back then. Bellows and a huge anvil. He'd start 'smithing' by bouncing
> > the hammer on the anvil then hit the work piece and then bouncing on th=
e
> > anvil again, to keep it going. (I thought he was missing all the
> > time...) Definitely one of my better memories. One horse, called
> > Vesuvius, had an ass so big, it almost completely darkened the shed's
> > door.... and when it took a piss, you better stand waaaay back.
>
> My Grandfathers brother was a blacksmith and mechanic, he was uptown
> with a hand crank blower for the forge, powering the blower and
> the hand crank drill press were my duties.
>
> There was no such thing as scrap iron in his hands, everything could
> become something useful.
>
> I wish that he had remained healthy enough and lived long enough
> for me to have learned more of the craft and its finer points.
>
> basilisk
>
> --
> A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse
I did learn from this guy. His favourite saying was: (and I translate
loosely) "When it needs to be done and I have done it, I'm done."
Simple, really.
On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:09:45 -0500, Swingman wrote:
> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>
>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>> years and never will be again.
>
> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
> exactly what it was intended for. What would make it more proper?
>
> Not arguing, just wondering ...
A good anvil will have a cast semi steel base and a slab of
high carbon tool steel forge welded to the top.
That combination will provide good rebound and make for a long life
anvil that will survive even heavy work.
Rebound is essential to keep from wearing the smith out.
A cheap cast anvil will cover most of what people need to do
these days but someone making forged knives or handmade
wrought iron work in volume would need better equipment.
basilisk
basilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:09:45 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>
>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>
>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>> years and never will be again.
>>
>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>> exactly what it was intended for. What would make it more proper?
>>
>> Not arguing, just wondering ...
>
> A good anvil will have a cast semi steel base and a slab of
> high carbon tool steel forge welded to the top.
>
> That combination will provide good rebound and make for a long life
> anvil that will survive even heavy work.
>
> Rebound is essential to keep from wearing the smith out.
>
> A cheap cast anvil will cover most of what people need to do
> these days but someone making forged knives or handmade
> wrought iron work in volume would need better equipment.
I bought it from a farrier supply in OK when I attended Bud Beaston's
Oklahoma Farriers College after getting out of the service in 1972, and
used it to shoe horses full time for the next six years, and well after
that for our own horses. I pounded lots of hot iron during that time doing
gaited horses and later found it easier to use than my paternal, blacksmith
grandfather's anvil from the turn of the century. Had a chance to change
but liked the feel of the newer one better ( and of course it was a
different shape), it weighs about 85lb, about 20 lbs lighter. I suspect it
is a good anvil (it was their top of the line at the time, not cheap ...
The Festool of it's class, IIRC. :>) ) Dad still has it and uses it on
occasion but I haven't laid eyes on it, or thought about it, for a good
twenty five years. Next time I go up, I'm going to check it out.
Thanks for the impetus, and memories ... :)
--
www.ewoodshop.com
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> The Festool of it's class, IIRC. :>) ) Dad still has it and uses it on
> occasion but I haven't laid eyes on it, or thought about it, for a good
> twenty five years. Next time I go up, I'm going to check it out.
> Thanks for the impetus, and memories ... :)
That reminds me of the "anvil" I inherited from my father. It was a foot
long piece of railroad track. I still use it on occasion when I need an
unwielding surface to hammer on.
It also does dual duty at Christmas time. Several times I've put it in the
same box with some small Christmas present. It's always good for a laugh
watching someone trying to pick the box up.
"willshak" <[email protected]> wrote in message ...
> Drew Lawson wrote the following:
>>
>> Ever drop it on a coyote?
>
> ????
> A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
> I don't get the connection.
>
Ahhh..., you must be cartoon challenged. Or perhaps that particular cartoon
is dated now. Do a search on roadrunner cartoon. Anvils are featured
prominently in these cartoons.
In article <[email protected]>,
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
> > hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
> > years and never will be again.
> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
> exactly what it was intended for. What would make it more proper?
A "Good" anvil will have been forged from a solid billet of iron or steel
- virtually unbreakable (A plate of tool steel may, however, be welded on
the top). Others are cast and have a greater propensity to fracture.
The ones linked to by Casper are cast, however, knowing Vaughans, they are
of decent quality. How long Vaughans will last is debatable. Hope works
used to be huge but the last time I was across there their operation had
shrunk down to one bay, still pretty big, but were down to only two or
three employees.
Avoid chinese cast anvils like the plague, they are rubbish, usually known
in the UK as "Aero anvils" after the chocolate bar. They have voids and
bubbles due to included air or gas. The test is to get your big sledge
hammer and bring it down hard on the bick - wear PPE and watch out for
flying pieces of cast iron.
--
Stuart Winsor
Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011
http://mug.riscos.org/show11/MUGshow.html
On May 18, 2:05=A0pm, basilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:09:45 -0500, Swingman wrote:
> > On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>
> >> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
> >> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
> >> years and never will be again.
>
> > I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
> > exactly what it was intended for. What would make it more proper?
>
> > Not arguing, just wondering ...
>
> A good anvil will have a cast semi steel base and a slab of
> high carbon tool steel forge welded to the top.
>
> That combination will provide good rebound and make for a long life
> anvil that will survive even heavy work.
>
> Rebound is essential to keep from wearing the smith out.
>
> A cheap cast anvil will cover most of what people need to do
> these days but someone making forged knives or handmade
> wrought iron work in volume would need better equipment.
>
> basilisk
As a kid, I was a blacksmith's helper. I am talking about 7-8 yrs old.
The blacksmith in question was a client of my dad's firm and he always
got a kick out of my curiosity. Most of the 'work' was wire-brushing
grates out of coal-burning space heaters and sweeping. On a lucky day,
I would get to watch him putting new shoes on a horse and if I was
really lucky, one of those horses would be huge and would be wearing
socks (or so I was told). In retrospect those must have been Belgians.
I would always cringe and worry about the hot shoes hitting the
hooves...and that smell.. I will never forget that smell.
The shop was old school back then. Bellows and a huge anvil. He'd
start 'smithing' by bouncing the hammer on the anvil then hit the work
piece and then bouncing on the anvil again, to keep it going. (I
thought he was missing all the time...)
Definitely one of my better memories.
One horse, called Vesuvius, had an ass so big, it almost completely
darkened the shed's door.... and when it took a piss, you better stand
waaaay back.
>A 100# anvil with "England" and "JB" cast on it will be auctioned
>locally at an estate auction house tomorrow. My online "research"
>indicates the JB stands for John Brooks and that it made before WW-II. I
>think it is in "good" condition. I assume an anvil worth shipping from
>England is probably a decent anvil...
>Bill
Here's some anvil info from my other half who studies blacksmithing...
"... http://anvils.co.uk/products/list/12 these guys own Brooks name
anvils, a decent anvil more common in UK (since they are made there)
but a few are in the hands of blacksmiths here as well. seem to be a
good anvil from the reviews I have read..."
At least that might give you a cost comparison.
`Casper
"willshak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Drew Lawson wrote the following:
>> In article <[email protected]>
>> Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>>> years and never will be again.
>>>>
>>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>>> exactly what it was intended for.
>>>
>>
>> Ever drop it on a coyote?
>
> ????
> A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
> I don't get the connection.
>
You never watched the Road Runner?
Drew Lawson wrote the following:
> In article <[email protected]>
> Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>
>>
>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>> years and never will be again.
>>>
>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>> exactly what it was intended for.
>>
>
> Ever drop it on a coyote?
????
A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
I don't get the connection.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
k-nuttle wrote the following:
> On 5/18/2011 4:16 PM, Drew Lawson wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>
>> willshak<[email protected]> writes:
>>> Drew Lawson wrote the following:
>>>> In article<[email protected]>
>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>>>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>>>>> years and never will be again.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>>>>> exactly what it was intended for.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ever drop it on a coyote?
>>>
>>> ????
>>> A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
>>> I don't get the connection.
>>
>> Silly joke. As others have noted, the character Wile E. Coyote
>> attempted to catch the Road Runner with Rube Goldberg setups,
>> implimented with the help of Acme Equipment(TM).
>>
>> Many attempts involved mis-engineered methods of dropping an anvil
>> from a cliff to smash the bird. Of course, these ended up smashing
>> him.
>>
>> (This used to be childhood entertainment.)
>>
> It was better that a dumb cartoon about a car that changes in to a man.
... or the TV series called, "My Mother the Car"
I never saw it, but I heard it featured the voice of one of my favorite
actresses, Anne Sothern.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
chaniarts wrote the following:
> willshak wrote:
>
>> Drew Lawson wrote the following:
>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>
>>> Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>>>> years and never will be again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>>>> exactly what it was intended for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Ever drop it on a coyote?
>>>
>> ????
>> A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
>> I don't get the connection.
>>
>
> he means will e coyote
>
Oh, OK. If he had mentioned Wile E Coyote, I would have gotten the joke.
>
>
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
This thread brings back memories of an old skit I saw on the Carol
Burnett show long ago... It was a take-off on "Death of a Salesman."
Mickey Rooney played the long suffering Willie Loman, and complained
of how his job as a door-to-door saleman was wearing him down, and how
his cases seemed heavier year after year. The biggest laugh of the
skit came when Rooney said, "I guess the world just doesn't need
anvils anymore."
On May 18, 4:16=A0pm, [email protected] (Drew Lawson) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 willshak <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Drew Lawson wrote the following:
> >> In article <[email protected]>
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>
> >>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
> >>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
> >>>> years and never will be again.
>
> >>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
> >>> exactly what it was intended for.
>
> >> Ever drop it on a coyote?
>
> >????
> >A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
> >I don't get the connection.
>
> Silly joke. =A0As others have noted, the character Wile E. Coyote
> attempted to catch the Road Runner with Rube Goldberg setups,
> implimented with the help of Acme Equipment(TM).
>
> Many attempts involved mis-engineered methods of dropping an anvil
> from a cliff to smash the bird. =A0Of course, these ended up smashing
> him.
>
> (This used to be childhood entertainment.)
>
> --
> Drew Lawson =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0It's not enough to be alive
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0when your future's be=
en deferred
Still is;-)
On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:56:12 -0400, Bill wrote:
> basilisk wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 08:18:39 -0400, Bill wrote:
>>
>>> basilisk wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 01:57:58 -0400, Bill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A 100# anvil with "England" and "JB" cast on it will be auctioned
>>>>> locally at an estate auction house tomorrow. My online "research"
>>>>> indicates the JB stands for John Brooks and that it made before WW-II. I
>>>>> think it is in "good" condition. I assume an anvil worth shipping from
>>>>> England is probably a decent anvil...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll report the selling price tomorrow (for the sake of anyone who is
>>>>> interested)! Any hints on what a fair bid would be? I'd enjoy getting
>>>>> it for less than a fair bid! : )
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> If it is in good condition, $5.00 to $7.00 a pound.
>>>>
>>>> basilisk
>>>
>>> By good, I meant in between fair and very good. So to me your price
>>> sounds pretty steep--but I'm off to go find out. Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>> years and never will be again.
>>
>> Depending on who shows up at the sale you may get it for
>> next to nothing, all the better.
>>
>> basilisk
>
> basilisk, thank you for providing an anvil link--I bookmarked it.
>
<snip>
I didn't, I believe that was Casper.
basilisk
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The 2nd half of this action is next week (and I suspect they'll have a
> couple more anvils like brethren of the ones they had today...). And more
> boxes and boxes of Stanley "5 1/4" planes..all remnants of the (long?)
> defunct Indianapolis high school woodworking program. There were no large
> power tools/machinery. My understanding is that the school district was
> just "cleaning house".
>
> Bill
>
> The best anvils are one piece. The second best is cast steel with a tool
> steel slab welded to it. Quality goes down from there. Something yoiu
> might want to read:
http://www.beautifuliron.com/gs_anvils.htm
On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:37:14 -0700, "chaniarts" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>willshak wrote:
>> Drew Lawson wrote the following:
>>> In article <[email protected]>
>>> Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>>>> years and never will be again.
>>>>>
>>>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>>>> exactly what it was intended for.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ever drop it on a coyote?
>>
>> ????
>> A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
>> I don't get the connection.
>
>he means will e coyote
Wile E. Coyote.
Never shot into the air, either?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhQ4dE_RGnQ SINNERS!
--
It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctively native American criminal class except Congress.
-- Mark Twain
basilisk wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2011 01:57:58 -0400, Bill wrote:
>
>> A 100# anvil with "England" and "JB" cast on it will be auctioned
>> locally at an estate auction house tomorrow. My online "research"
>> indicates the JB stands for John Brooks and that it made before WW-II. I
>> think it is in "good" condition. I assume an anvil worth shipping from
>> England is probably a decent anvil...
>>
>> I'll report the selling price tomorrow (for the sake of anyone who is
>> interested)! Any hints on what a fair bid would be? I'd enjoy getting
>> it for less than a fair bid! : )
>>
>> Bill
>
> If it is in good condition, $5.00 to $7.00 a pound.
>
> basilisk
By good, I meant in between fair and very good. So to me your price
sounds pretty steep--but I'm off to go find out. Thanks,
Bill
basilisk wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2011 08:18:39 -0400, Bill wrote:
>
>> basilisk wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 01:57:58 -0400, Bill wrote:
>>>
>>>> A 100# anvil with "England" and "JB" cast on it will be auctioned
>>>> locally at an estate auction house tomorrow. My online "research"
>>>> indicates the JB stands for John Brooks and that it made before WW-II. I
>>>> think it is in "good" condition. I assume an anvil worth shipping from
>>>> England is probably a decent anvil...
>>>>
>>>> I'll report the selling price tomorrow (for the sake of anyone who is
>>>> interested)! Any hints on what a fair bid would be? I'd enjoy getting
>>>> it for less than a fair bid! : )
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>> If it is in good condition, $5.00 to $7.00 a pound.
>>>
>>> basilisk
>>
>> By good, I meant in between fair and very good. So to me your price
>> sounds pretty steep--but I'm off to go find out. Thanks,
>>
>> Bill
>
> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
> years and never will be again.
>
> Depending on who shows up at the sale you may get it for
> next to nothing, all the better.
>
> basilisk
basilisk, thank you for providing an anvil link--I bookmarked it.
The two 100# anvils, one marked "JB" and one marked "Brooks" went for
$190 and $175 (that's about double what I wanted to spend based upon my
current actual anvil needs).
I did pick up a Stanley Bailey #7 (jointer plane)for $40, and a "double
lifetime-supply" of Stanley plane irons and some other parts for $35. I
intend that the blades should be ir'n enough to help me practice
sharpening and to use in wooden planes I may build some day.
Given that the auctions lasts 3-4 hours, one feels the need to buy
something to recoup some of the value of the time invested!
The 2nd half of this action is next week (and I suspect they'll have a
couple more anvils like brethren of the ones they had today...). And
more boxes and boxes of Stanley "5 1/4" planes..all remnants of the
(long?) defunct Indianapolis high school woodworking program. There were
no large power tools/machinery. My understanding is that the school
district was just "cleaning house".
Bill
basilisk wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:09:45 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>
>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>
>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>> years and never will be again.
>>
>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>> exactly what it was intended for. What would make it more proper?
>>
>> Not arguing, just wondering ...
>
> A good anvil will have a cast semi steel base and a slab of
> high carbon tool steel forge welded to the top.
If such an anvil were not painted, would this division be visible
(if so, it may be a helpful way for those of us who are novices to
discriminate between anvils)?
Bill
>
> That combination will provide good rebound and make for a long life
> anvil that will survive even heavy work.
>
> Rebound is essential to keep from wearing the smith out.
>
> A cheap cast anvil will cover most of what people need to do
> these days but someone making forged knives or handmade
> wrought iron work in volume would need better equipment.
>
> basilisk
In article <[email protected]>
Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>
>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>> years and never will be again.
>
>I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>exactly what it was intended for.
Ever drop it on a coyote?
--
Drew Lawson | What is an "Oprah"?
| -- Teal'c
|
willshak wrote:
> Drew Lawson wrote the following:
>> In article <[email protected]>
>> Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>>> years and never will be again.
>>>>
>>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>>> exactly what it was intended for.
>>>
>>
>> Ever drop it on a coyote?
>
> ????
> A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
> I don't get the connection.
he means will e coyote
In article <[email protected]>
willshak <[email protected]> writes:
>Drew Lawson wrote the following:
>> In article <[email protected]>
>> Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>>> years and never will be again.
>>>>
>>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>>> exactly what it was intended for.
>>>
>>
>> Ever drop it on a coyote?
>
>????
>A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
>I don't get the connection.
Silly joke. As others have noted, the character Wile E. Coyote
attempted to catch the Road Runner with Rube Goldberg setups,
implimented with the help of Acme Equipment(TM).
Many attempts involved mis-engineered methods of dropping an anvil
from a cliff to smash the bird. Of course, these ended up smashing
him.
(This used to be childhood entertainment.)
--
Drew Lawson | It's not enough to be alive
| when your future's been deferred
On 5/18/2011 4:16 PM, Drew Lawson wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>
> willshak<[email protected]> writes:
>> Drew Lawson wrote the following:
>>> In article<[email protected]>
>>> Swingman<[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
>>>>> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
>>>>> years and never will be again.
>>>>>
>>>> I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>>>> exactly what it was intended for.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ever drop it on a coyote?
>>
>> ????
>> A farrier's anvil is used to make horseshoes.
>> I don't get the connection.
>
> Silly joke. As others have noted, the character Wile E. Coyote
> attempted to catch the Road Runner with Rube Goldberg setups,
> implimented with the help of Acme Equipment(TM).
>
> Many attempts involved mis-engineered methods of dropping an anvil
> from a cliff to smash the bird. Of course, these ended up smashing
> him.
>
> (This used to be childhood entertainment.)
>
It was better that a dumb cartoon about a car that changes in to a man.
On Wed, 18 May 2011 08:18:39 -0400, Bill wrote:
> basilisk wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 01:57:58 -0400, Bill wrote:
>>
>>> A 100# anvil with "England" and "JB" cast on it will be auctioned
>>> locally at an estate auction house tomorrow. My online "research"
>>> indicates the JB stands for John Brooks and that it made before WW-II. I
>>> think it is in "good" condition. I assume an anvil worth shipping from
>>> England is probably a decent anvil...
>>>
>>> I'll report the selling price tomorrow (for the sake of anyone who is
>>> interested)! Any hints on what a fair bid would be? I'd enjoy getting
>>> it for less than a fair bid! : )
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> If it is in good condition, $5.00 to $7.00 a pound.
>>
>> basilisk
>
> By good, I meant in between fair and very good. So to me your price
> sounds pretty steep--but I'm off to go find out. Thanks,
>
> Bill
no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
years and never will be again.
Depending on who shows up at the sale you may get it for
next to nothing, all the better.
basilisk
On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there
> hasn't been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50
> years and never will be again.
I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
exactly what it was intended for. What would make it more proper?
Not arguing, just wondering ...
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On Wed, 18 May 2011 01:57:58 -0400, Bill wrote:
> A 100# anvil with "England" and "JB" cast on it will be auctioned
> locally at an estate auction house tomorrow. My online "research"
> indicates the JB stands for John Brooks and that it made before WW-II. I
> think it is in "good" condition. I assume an anvil worth shipping from
> England is probably a decent anvil...
>
> I'll report the selling price tomorrow (for the sake of anyone who is
> interested)! Any hints on what a fair bid would be? I'd enjoy getting
> it for less than a fair bid! : )
>
> Bill
If it is in good condition, $5.00 to $7.00 a pound.
basilisk
On Wed, 18 May 2011 15:38:03 -0700, Robatoy wrote:
> On May 18, 2:05Â pm, basilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:09:45 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>> > On 5/18/2011 7:42 AM, basilisk wrote:
>>
>> >> no argument from me, it is steep, but consider that there hasn't
>> >> been a proper anvil made in the US for over 50 years and never will
>> >> be again.
>>
>> > I have a farrier's anvil I bought new in 1972 that has always done
>> > exactly what it was intended for. What would make it more proper?
>>
>> > Not arguing, just wondering ...
>>
>> A good anvil will have a cast semi steel base and a slab of high carbon
>> tool steel forge welded to the top.
>>
>> That combination will provide good rebound and make for a long life
>> anvil that will survive even heavy work.
>>
>> Rebound is essential to keep from wearing the smith out.
>>
>> A cheap cast anvil will cover most of what people need to do these days
>> but someone making forged knives or handmade wrought iron work in
>> volume would need better equipment.
>>
>> basilisk
>
> As a kid, I was a blacksmith's helper. I am talking about 7-8 yrs old.
> The blacksmith in question was a client of my dad's firm and he always
> got a kick out of my curiosity. Most of the 'work' was wire-brushing
> grates out of coal-burning space heaters and sweeping. On a lucky day, I
> would get to watch him putting new shoes on a horse and if I was really
> lucky, one of those horses would be huge and would be wearing socks (or
> so I was told). In retrospect those must have been Belgians. I would
> always cringe and worry about the hot shoes hitting the hooves...and
> that smell.. I will never forget that smell. The shop was old school
> back then. Bellows and a huge anvil. He'd start 'smithing' by bouncing
> the hammer on the anvil then hit the work piece and then bouncing on the
> anvil again, to keep it going. (I thought he was missing all the
> time...) Definitely one of my better memories. One horse, called
> Vesuvius, had an ass so big, it almost completely darkened the shed's
> door.... and when it took a piss, you better stand waaaay back.
My Grandfathers brother was a blacksmith and mechanic, he was uptown
with a hand crank blower for the forge, powering the blower and
the hand crank drill press were my duties.
There was no such thing as scrap iron in his hands, everything could
become something useful.
I wish that he had remained healthy enough and lived long enough
for me to have learned more of the craft and its finer points.
basilisk
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