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09/09/2006 10:05 AM

Dado set

I see that Lowe's has the Freud 8" stacked dado set, but the
description says "for veneer, plywood, and laminates." Will this also
work well with regular hard and soft woods?

Mike

P.S. I tried the Oldham 7" adjustable dado blade and it was crap; it
didn't even cut a square-bottomed dado.


This topic has 12 replies

u

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

09/09/2006 1:39 PM

I just bought a Freud dado set today (it was DD208, though) and I
unfortunately have to return it. The left side blade is a little
larger in diameter than the rest of the set and causes a stepped cut
instead of a flat bottom.

Ugh,
Mike

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

09/09/2006 8:46 PM

An adjustable or "wobble dado" is ground when it is set at a certain
thickness, somewhere around 9/16". At that thickness, you will get a flat
bottom. Wider gives a concave bottom and narrower yields a convex bottom.
Regardless, I have never seen one that gives a really clean cut.

When a blade says is for veneer, etc., that should mean that the blades have
a zero or negative hook angle (the teeth lean back). This gives a clean
cut. It will work well in solid wood; you just won't have as fast of a feed
rate because it won't cut as easily as a blade with a positive hook (teeth
leaning into the cut).

Preston
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I see that Lowe's has the Freud 8" stacked dado set, but the
> description says "for veneer, plywood, and laminates." Will this also
> work well with regular hard and soft woods?
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. I tried the Oldham 7" adjustable dado blade and it was crap; it
> didn't even cut a square-bottomed dado.
>

RC

Richard Clements

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

09/09/2006 8:05 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> I see that Lowe's has the Freud 8" stacked dado set, but the
> description says "for veneer, plywood, and laminates." Will this also
> work well with regular hard and soft woods?
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. I tried the Oldham 7" adjustable dado blade and it was crap; it
> didn't even cut a square-bottomed dado.
>
use mine to cut hard wood & soft wood all the time works great, only way
to get a better dado is with a router

JH

"Jim Hall"

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

09/09/2006 10:18 AM

I have the SD508 model number and it says, "Ultimate cuts in veneered
plywood, melamine, chipboard and solid woods" on the container. It does all
those very well..

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I see that Lowe's has the Freud 8" stacked dado set, but the
> description says "for veneer, plywood, and laminates." Will this also
> work well with regular hard and soft woods?
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. I tried the Oldham 7" adjustable dado blade and it was crap; it
> didn't even cut a square-bottomed dado.
>

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

09/09/2006 2:42 PM

[email protected] wrote in news:1157821526.562057.226850
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

> I see that Lowe's has the Freud 8" stacked dado set, but the
> description says "for veneer, plywood, and laminates." Will this also
> work well with regular hard and soft woods?
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. I tried the Oldham 7" adjustable dado blade and it was crap; it
> didn't even cut a square-bottomed dado.
>

Freud's SD208 does hard and softwood dados pretty well. Even for a newbie,
in a Shopsmith. And it works pretty well when the newbie upgrades the saw,
too.

The tool is a good starting point. I haven't felt the need to upgrade the
dado set yet.

Patriarch

Cc

"CW"

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

10/09/2006 5:46 AM

The blades were likely ground at the widest setting. In that case, they
would not be round. By controlling their position in relation to each other,
they could be set in such a way that it would offset the round bottom
problem at any spacing.

"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a double-blade wobble set. The bottom of the dado is dependent
> on the position when fastened to the arbor. I never really understood
> why, but it works as described on the instruction sheet. A blade for
> laminates and ply has finer teeth although it should work for solid
> woods as well.

g

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

09/09/2006 9:20 PM

On 9 Sep 2006 13:39:24 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>I just bought a Freud dado set today (it was DD208, though) and I
>unfortunately have to return it. The left side blade is a little
>larger in diameter than the rest of the set and causes a stepped cut
>instead of a flat bottom.
>
>Ugh,
>Mike


Hey Mike,

You might want to check that the inside (Left) blade is flat against
the arbor support face. I had the same problem and had to slightly
snug up the arbor nut and then rotate the blade set to make sure it
was in all the way.


If it's not then the blade will run out of round which will cut deeper
giving the apprance of being a larger diameter.

Try switching the outside blades and see if it does the same thing.

Gary

BD

Bill Davis Jr

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

10/09/2006 9:57 AM

On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:42:26 -0500, Patriarch
<[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote in news:1157821526.562057.226850
>@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I see that Lowe's has the Freud 8" stacked dado set, but the
>> description says "for veneer, plywood, and laminates." Will this also
>> work well with regular hard and soft woods?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> P.S. I tried the Oldham 7" adjustable dado blade and it was crap; it
>> didn't even cut a square-bottomed dado.
>>
>
>Freud's SD208 does hard and softwood dados pretty well. Even for a newbie,
>in a Shopsmith. And it works pretty well when the newbie upgrades the saw,
>too.
>
>The tool is a good starting point. I haven't felt the need to upgrade the
>dado set yet.
>
>Patriarch

I also have the SD208. Never had any problems. No matter what type of
material I cut iwth it.

Bill

BM

"Bob Moos"

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

10/09/2006 11:56 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> I see that Lowe's has the Freud 8" stacked dado set, but the
> description says "for veneer, plywood, and laminates." Will this also
> work well with regular hard and soft woods?

If it's the same as the one sold at Home Depot (model DD208) it'll
cut hard and softwood fine. I bought mine about a year ago for $90
something, and have found it's a good dado set.

If you want a less expensive stacked set, I noticed recently that
Grizzly[1] has one for $49. I don't have any experience with this
set, so I don't know if it's any good. But the price is interesting,
compared to what's at Home Depot and Lowes.

[1]: http://www.grizzly.com/products/H7777

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

10/09/2006 2:36 AM

I have a double-blade wobble set. The bottom of the dado is dependent
on the position when fastened to the arbor. I never really understood
why, but it works as described on the instruction sheet. A blade for
laminates and ply has finer teeth although it should work for solid
woods as well.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

10/09/2006 2:06 AM

A wobble dado does not cut a convex bottom at any setting.

"Preston Andreas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> An adjustable or "wobble dado" is ground when it is set at a certain
> thickness, somewhere around 9/16". At that thickness, you will get a flat
> bottom. Wider gives a concave bottom and narrower yields a convex bottom.
> Regardless, I have never seen one that gives a really clean cut.
>
> When a blade says is for veneer, etc., that should mean that the blades
have
> a zero or negative hook angle (the teeth lean back). This gives a clean
> cut. It will work well in solid wood; you just won't have as fast of a
feed
> rate because it won't cut as easily as a blade with a positive hook (teeth
> leaning into the cut).
>
> Preston
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I see that Lowe's has the Freud 8" stacked dado set, but the
> > description says "for veneer, plywood, and laminates." Will this also
> > work well with regular hard and soft woods?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > P.S. I tried the Oldham 7" adjustable dado blade and it was crap; it
> > didn't even cut a square-bottomed dado.
> >
>
>

l

in reply to [email protected] on 09/09/2006 10:05 AM

09/09/2006 11:43 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Preston Andreas <[email protected]> wrote:
>An adjustable or "wobble dado" is ground when it is set at a certain
>thickness, somewhere around 9/16". At that thickness, you will get a flat
>bottom. Wider gives a concave bottom and narrower yields a convex bottom.
<...snipped...>

Really? Are you sure about that?




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