Got me thinking about drums.
I hope someday to buy a set of Keller shells and do my own finish,
make a drilling jig for the hardware and build out my custom killer
set. I recently sold off my 7 piece Yamaha Custom black lacquer Maples
with a dozen Zildj cym's. I miss it. I think I need to work on my
dying skiils so I can do a cool sunburst type coloring like on a strat
when I build my own.
http://www.kelleratthecore.com/vintage_maple.html
Really beautiful kit and very well cared for.
Yes, big rack toms are the hardest piece to get a good tone. They are
often sour. Over the years I've had maybe 6 or 7 big kits, 7,8, 10 and
even one 12 piece monster. I am real good at finding deals and pretty
good at selling them again when I don't have space, etc. I think every
kit has had at least one sour big rack tom. I've had varying success
trying different types of heads, etc and I can usually flatten out the
bad overtones. They always record well, just sound sour from the
drummers seat.
On Mar 22, 2:23=A0pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 03/22/2010 01:22 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
> > On 3/22/10 11:59 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> >> Got me thinking about drums.
>
> >> I hope someday to buy a set of Keller shells and do my own finish,
> >> make a drilling jig for the hardware and build out my custom killer
> >> set. I recently sold off my 7 piece Yamaha Custom black lacquer Maples
> >> with a dozen Zildj cym's. I miss it. I think I need to work on my
> >> dying skiils so I can do a cool sunburst type coloring like on a strat
> >> when I build my own.
>
> >>http://www.kelleratthecore.com/vintage_maple.html
>
> > If I ever go with Keller, it will be the vintage mahogany shells.
> > All those Keller maple shells sound the same, but I've great things
> > about the mahogany.
>
> My mid-eighties Gretsch kit (which has the coveted maple shells made by t=
he now-defunct
> Jasper company, and for which Keller now has a nearly identical replaceme=
nt) has a complete
> complement of rack toms (8x8, 10x8, 12x10, 13x11, 14x12, 15x13; I haven't=
used them all at
> the same time in years) and one 16x16 floor tom. =A0I really like running=
a 10&12 rack and
> 14&16 floor tom configuration, but I don't have a proper 14x14 floor tom =
(which I LOVE but
> are IMPOSSIBLE to find) and neither the 14x12 or 15x13 rack toms are doin=
g it for me. =A0For
> quite some time now I've been seriously toying with the idea of getting a=
14x14 shell from
> Keller to make a complementary floor tom for that kit, but I've yet to ta=
ke the plunge. =A0I'd
> be looking at trying to match the "walnut" color on those shells and the =
smooth lacquer
> finish that Gretsch is famous for; methinks it will be a bit of a challen=
ge in more ways
> than one.
>
> BTW, you can see the kit in question here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/bb=
qboyee/sets/72157603970680808/
>
> > I've been making my own snare shells for snares, from staves.
> > I think you'd be surprised at how easy they are for a woodworker.
>
> Yes, I have two examples of stave shell snares that I've made on my Flick=
r site:http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/sets/72157603974228673/http://=
www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/sets/72157604599305593/
>
> I'm currently building a second kit that I can keep at home to practice o=
n (I've only just
> had that one Gretsch kit for the past 25 years or so). =A0I'm making it o=
ut of Black Walnut
> (not really my first choice, but I have a bunch of it that I don't know w=
hat to do with)
> using stave shell construction. =A0Starting with a 20x15 kick that's all =
glued together and
> just about ready to go on the router-based turning jigs; the first jig cu=
ts the outer
> surface down to a perfect cylinder, and the second jig trims the inner su=
rface to the
> correct thickness with respect to the outer.
>
> > Some day, I'll end up getting a machinist's lathe and turning my own lu=
gs.
>
> I heard that! =A0Most of the lugs available from today's drum building su=
pply houses are
> absolute crap. =A0I'll probably spend the next few months on eBay trying =
to snag enough
> vintage Gretsch lugs to finally put the kit together...
>
> --
> What percentage of the driving populace do you suppose actually
> understands the rules of engagement at a four-way stop?
> To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
On 3/22/10 11:59 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> Got me thinking about drums.
>
> I hope someday to buy a set of Keller shells and do my own finish,
> make a drilling jig for the hardware and build out my custom killer
> set. I recently sold off my 7 piece Yamaha Custom black lacquer Maples
> with a dozen Zildj cym's. I miss it. I think I need to work on my
> dying skiils so I can do a cool sunburst type coloring like on a strat
> when I build my own.
>
> http://www.kelleratthecore.com/vintage_maple.html
If I ever go with Keller, it will be the vintage mahogany shells.
All those Keller maple shells sound the same, but I've great things
about the mahogany.
I've been making my own snare shells for snares, from staves.
I think you'd be surprised at how easy they are for a woodworker.
I'm staring on some solid wood hoops.
Some day, I'll end up getting a machinist's lathe and turning my own
lugs.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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On 03/22/2010 01:22 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/22/10 11:59 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>> Got me thinking about drums.
>>
>> I hope someday to buy a set of Keller shells and do my own finish,
>> make a drilling jig for the hardware and build out my custom killer
>> set. I recently sold off my 7 piece Yamaha Custom black lacquer Maples
>> with a dozen Zildj cym's. I miss it. I think I need to work on my
>> dying skiils so I can do a cool sunburst type coloring like on a strat
>> when I build my own.
>>
>> http://www.kelleratthecore.com/vintage_maple.html
>
> If I ever go with Keller, it will be the vintage mahogany shells.
> All those Keller maple shells sound the same, but I've great things
> about the mahogany.
My mid-eighties Gretsch kit (which has the coveted maple shells made by the now-defunct
Jasper company, and for which Keller now has a nearly identical replacement) has a complete
complement of rack toms (8x8, 10x8, 12x10, 13x11, 14x12, 15x13; I haven't used them all at
the same time in years) and one 16x16 floor tom. I really like running a 10&12 rack and
14&16 floor tom configuration, but I don't have a proper 14x14 floor tom (which I LOVE but
are IMPOSSIBLE to find) and neither the 14x12 or 15x13 rack toms are doing it for me. For
quite some time now I've been seriously toying with the idea of getting a 14x14 shell from
Keller to make a complementary floor tom for that kit, but I've yet to take the plunge. I'd
be looking at trying to match the "walnut" color on those shells and the smooth lacquer
finish that Gretsch is famous for; methinks it will be a bit of a challenge in more ways
than one.
BTW, you can see the kit in question here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/sets/72157603970680808/
> I've been making my own snare shells for snares, from staves.
> I think you'd be surprised at how easy they are for a woodworker.
Yes, I have two examples of stave shell snares that I've made on my Flickr site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/sets/72157603974228673/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/sets/72157604599305593/
I'm currently building a second kit that I can keep at home to practice on (I've only just
had that one Gretsch kit for the past 25 years or so). I'm making it out of Black Walnut
(not really my first choice, but I have a bunch of it that I don't know what to do with)
using stave shell construction. Starting with a 20x15 kick that's all glued together and
just about ready to go on the router-based turning jigs; the first jig cuts the outer
surface down to a perfect cylinder, and the second jig trims the inner surface to the
correct thickness with respect to the outer.
> Some day, I'll end up getting a machinist's lathe and turning my own lugs.
I heard that! Most of the lugs available from today's drum building supply houses are
absolute crap. I'll probably spend the next few months on eBay trying to snag enough
vintage Gretsch lugs to finally put the kit together...
--
What percentage of the driving populace do you suppose actually
understands the rules of engagement at a four-way stop?
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
On 3/22/10 4:23 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> Starting with a 20x15 kick that's all glued together
> and just about ready to go on the router-based turning jigs; the first
> jig cuts the outer surface down to a perfect cylinder, and the second
> jig trims the inner surface to the correct thickness with respect to the
> outer.
>
Not only do I want pictures, but I may have to make a trip to TX to
check out that rig. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
On 3/22/2010 4:50 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/22/10 4:23 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> Starting with a 20x15 kick that's all glued together
>> and just about ready to go on the router-based turning jigs; the first
>> jig cuts the outer surface down to a perfect cylinder, and the second
>> jig trims the inner surface to the correct thickness with respect to the
>> outer.
>>
>
> Not only do I want pictures, but I may have to make a trip to TX to
> check out that rig. :-)
Which rig, the turning jigs or the finished kit? :-)
Start drivin', man! If anything ever brings you to Austin you're certainly
welcome to stop by. In the meantime I'll see what I can do about getting some
pictures taken to document the process...
--
See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad!
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/