ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

28/08/2005 2:17 PM

Comments and suggestions welcomed for my shop plans

Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
less space available in the corner of his old garage.

Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
better placement of the various tools.

The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.

The door on the far right comes in from the garage.

The door in the front is a garage-style door, only 6' wide. This will
allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can open
it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.

The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.

http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg

The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.

http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg

Thanks!

Jack


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User Example

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 8:38 PM

mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net wrote:
> Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
> like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
> little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
> less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>
> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
> better placement of the various tools.
>

I see the miter area and notice you won't be able to cut a long board
since it is in the corner. Might I suggest that you mount all your
tools on lockable wheels so that you can roll them to the center of the
room when you need extra space. Then you can put them where you need
them as you work and then push them back against the wall when they
aren't needed. My brother did this in a small workshed and he can do a
lot with the rolling tools.

rh

"robo hippy"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 8:39 PM

Where are you going to store Wood? With the price of it now days, I am
starting to think that it may be a better invertment that a mutual
fund. When arranging my shop, room for wood storage was the thing that
I most underestimated. Of my non-turning tools, the table saw is the
most used. It is centrally located, with same heigh work bench in the
infeed end (with space to walk in between, and a large outfeed table.
It isn't on wheels. Jointer, planer, small bandsaw, drillpress, and
drumsander are on wheels. Chop saw and router table are fixed on a word
bench.
robo hippy

sR

[email protected] (Rob Spear)

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

29/08/2005 11:33 PM

Jack, you may want rethink the location of some of your power tools.

I guess i would station your table saw in the center of room for riping
boards and along with that your bench should be stationed in front of
table saw at the same hight this way it will aid you when your riping
lumber or plywood. And will double as a bench too.

Think your trim saw will also need to be in a much better place for your
longer stock.

Your Router table just may need a little more room too, ok for short
stock but short on space.

I think your on the right track and some advice of all i think you will
come up with a very workable shop.......GOOD LUCK!

Bs

"BobS"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

30/08/2005 2:38 AM

You have mail......PDF file, diagram of my shop layout and a work flow
description.

Bob S.


ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

29/08/2005 10:48 AM

I was wondering about the tubing. The flexible type has those crinkles
in it, right? Wouldn't that tend to get stuff caught in the tube? YOu
know, like the cheap flexible tubing you sometimes see off of dryers.
They catch lint like crazy.

What type of flexible tubing would be best?

Jack

C & M wrote:

> Sorry, the last one got off accidentally. I was also going to suggest
> flexible vinyl tubing with wire reinforcement to assist with your grounding
> concerns. I like the ability to change my mind without major plumbing
> changes.
>
> "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
>>like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
>>little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
>>less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>>
>>Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
>>better placement of the various tools.
>>
>>The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.
>>
>>The door on the far right comes in from the garage.
>>
>>The door in the front is a garage-style door, only 6' wide. This will
>>allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can open
>>it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.
>>
>>The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.
>>
>> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg
>>
>>The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.
>>
>> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Jack
>>
>
>
>

ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

29/08/2005 10:47 AM

That's a good idea. Thanks!

C & M wrote:

> You might consider swapping locations of your scroll saw and miter saw. The
> scroll is usually for smaller work and would be OK in the corner position.
>
>
> "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
>>like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
>>little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
>>less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>>
>>Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
>>better placement of the various tools.
>>
>>The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.
>>
>>The door on the far right comes in from the garage.
>>
>>The door in the front is a garage-style door, only 6' wide. This will
>>allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can open
>>it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.
>>
>>The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.
>>
>> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg
>>
>>The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.
>>
>> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Jack
>>
>
>
>

ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

29/08/2005 10:46 AM

Heh ... okay, messed up on that one!

BillyBob wrote:
> "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
>>better placement of the various tools.
>
>
> Wow, that looks like a good sized scroll saw you have there - almost as big
> as your table saw. What is it?
>
> Bob
>
>

WC

"Walt Cheever"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

29/08/2005 6:38 PM

I'm sure you are tired of comments, but that won't stop me for an instant.

I'd swap the bench and miter bench to allow you to work on long stock.

I find the end of my bench to be very handy, for a vise, for sawing and
planeing. I'd leave more space between bench and miter bench.

The Table Saw should be movable. Running long rips out the big door is
handy.

I would need twice the storage space you've shown.

I'd add a 2x4 roll around bench at the same height as table saw, and other
tools working surface. It is so handy to have a little extra work space.

Looks like a nice shop.

Walt


"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
> like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
> little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
> less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>
> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
> better placement of the various tools.
>
> The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.
>
> The door on the far right comes in from the garage.
>
> The door in the front is a garage-style door, only 6' wide. This will
> allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can open
> it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.
>
> The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg
>
> The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>

Bs

"BobS"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

30/08/2005 1:00 PM

On its way.......

Bob S.


"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in news:AEPQe.45032$EX.11528
> @twister.nyroc.rr.com:
>
>> You have mail......PDF file, diagram of my shop layout and a work flow
>> description.
>>
>> Bob S.
>>
> I'm a long-time lurker, but would love to see your layout as well. Would
> you care to post it to abpw? An alternative is to email me at
> iebeevoormij at verizon dot net.
>
> Much appreciated!
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid

ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

30/08/2005 9:00 PM

Bob,

Thanks! Your layout did give me some other ideas as to how I might tweak
my layout. I know that rerouting ducting for the DC would be a RPITA,
but I'm keeping the ceiling open (rafters with no drywall ceiling) until
I'm sure that I've settled down on my (pseudo) final layout.

Plus, I'll have ample outlets around the room no matter what!

Jack


BobS wrote:

> You have mail......PDF file, diagram of my shop layout and a work flow
> description.
>
> Bob S.
>
>
>

Bs

"BobS"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 11:31 PM

Jack,

Others have made some valid suggestions and I agree that the work-flow will
be less than adequate if you use that setup. Although you didn't say
anything about future tool additions, a portable planer and 6" jointer
certainly should be planned on. I have a 12'x20' shop and although cramped,
I have all the tools setup with ductwork in that small area.

Plan for the extra tools now and avoid the hassle of tearing down your
ductwork later and adding wiring (120VAC for planer, 220VAC for jointer). A
rule of thumb that I found when planning my shop and asking here was to have
a minimum of 7' space forward and aft of any stationary tool that you use.
Most of the things we (hobbyists) typically make will have a max length of
under 7'.

If you decide on the other tools and want some suggestions, let me know and
I'll tell you how my shop is setup.

Bob S.

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
> like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
> little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
> less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>
> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
> better placement of the various tools.
>
> The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.
>
> The door on the far right comes in from the garage.
>
> The door in the front is a garage-style door, only 6' wide. This will
> allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can open
> it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.
>
> The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg
>
> The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>

ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 3:59 PM

I hadn't considered the orientation of the DC yet, but that would
certainly help. For the table saw, I expect that most of my work on it
will be crosscuts and not as much ripping. I figured that if I needed
more aft space, I'd open the 6' garage door.

As another reader pointed out, I should have these things on movable
platforms. Then I guess I could easily orient the table saw in the
direction that I find most useful ... which I probably won't know until
I actually start using it.

Jack

Morris Dovey wrote:

> mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net (in
> [email protected]) said:
>
> | Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
> | better placement of the various tools.
>
> You might consider locating the miter saw somewhere other than in a
> corner.
>
> In real life, you'll probably want the table saw turned 90 degrees
> with as much space as possible fore and aft. Wheels would be a help -
> because in the position shown it'll be in the way every time you want
> to get anything of any size into or out of the shop.
>
> Shelves are good. You might consider building shelving units that you
> can install at least four feet up and that extend all the way up to
> your DC ducting. That'll make it easy to keep tool accessories close
> to point of use. In my garage (no longer a shop, but about the size of
> your shop) I installed pegboard from bench height to 5'; and built
> wall-to-wall open shelves from the top of the pegboard to the ceiling.
> It worked well for me - and might or might not for you.
>
> Can your planned DC unit be turned so as to not obstruct either door?
>
> Will the DC ducting interfere with opening the wide door?
>
> What are the grey bars stacked in front of the wide door?
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
>
>

ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 3:57 PM

That's a good idea. I had planned on doing that for the table saw.

Oh ... the Miter Saw bench will be level with my regular bench. I was
hoping that this would allow me to extend some longer boards to the
left. To the right would be a problem.

Jack

User Example wrote:

> mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big
>> and like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for
>> too little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work
>> with far less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>>
>> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
>> better placement of the various tools.
>>
>
> I see the miter area and notice you won't be able to cut a long board
> since it is in the corner. Might I suggest that you mount all your
> tools on lockable wheels so that you can roll them to the center of the
> room when you need extra space. Then you can put them where you need
> them as you work and then push them back against the wall when they
> aren't needed. My brother did this in a small workshed and he can do a
> lot with the rolling tools.

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

29/08/2005 1:03 PM

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">
wrote in news:[email protected]:

> I was wondering about the tubing. The flexible type has those
> crinkles in it, right? Wouldn't that tend to get stuff caught in the
> tube? YOu know, like the cheap flexible tubing you sometimes see off
> of dryers. They catch lint like crazy.
>
> What type of flexible tubing would be best?
>
> Jack
>

The clear flex tubing doesn't catch enough crud to be a problem, although
airflow is reduced, because the walls aren't smooth.

Your regular specialty wooddorking supply has a black 4" flex, which has
smoother inside walls, albeit at a higher price than the clear. I haven't
seen the need to 'upgrade'.

Patriarch

Hn

Han

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

30/08/2005 10:05 AM

"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in news:AEPQe.45032$EX.11528
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

> You have mail......PDF file, diagram of my shop layout and a work flow
> description.
>
> Bob S.
>
I'm a long-time lurker, but would love to see your layout as well. Would
you care to post it to abpw? An alternative is to email me at
iebeevoormij at verizon dot net.

Much appreciated!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 4:16 PM

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote in message

> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
> better placement of the various tools.

1. Consider putting the bench and table saw back to back and more centrally
located, and at the same height, thereby using the bench as your extension
table.

2. Consider adapting the
"miter-saw-stand-sheetgood-lumber-storage-on-wheels" in the latest (Oct/05)
FWW, to be positioned below the shelves where you have the bench and miter
saw currently positioned in your drawing.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 8/07/05

CM

"C & M"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 11:20 PM

You might consider swapping locations of your scroll saw and miter saw. The
scroll is usually for smaller work and would be OK in the corner position.


"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
> like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
> little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
> less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>
> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
> better placement of the various tools.
>
> The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.
>
> The door on the far right comes in from the garage.
>
> The door in the front is a garage-style door, only 6' wide. This will
> allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can open
> it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.
>
> The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg
>
> The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>

CM

"C & M"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 11:23 PM

Sorry, the last one got off accidentally. I was also going to suggest
flexible vinyl tubing with wire reinforcement to assist with your grounding
concerns. I like the ability to change my mind without major plumbing
changes.

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
> like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
> little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
> less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>
> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
> better placement of the various tools.
>
> The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.
>
> The door on the far right comes in from the garage.
>
> The door in the front is a garage-style door, only 6' wide. This will
> allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can open
> it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.
>
> The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg
>
> The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>

CM

"C & M"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

29/08/2005 3:23 PM


I've had no problems with mine whatsoever. The only thing that could
ever get is the odd sliver of a cut off that is flexible enough to get in
there.
The clear flex line helps find it, as does a clean out on the end of the
run.
But patriarchs remarks are correct and well taken. Smoother is better.
Pricing varies with the available sales! Don't get yourself in too much of
a sweat over the details. Just cover as many of the bases as you can and
you'll be OK. One other thing.

>
> The clear flex tubing doesn't catch enough crud to be a problem, although
> airflow is reduced, because the walls aren't smooth.
>
> Your regular specialty wooddorking supply has a black 4" flex, which has
> smoother inside walls, albeit at a higher price than the clear. I haven't
> seen the need to 'upgrade'.
>
> Patriarch
>

Bb

"BillyBob"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

29/08/2005 3:27 AM


"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...

> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
> better placement of the various tools.

Wow, that looks like a good sized scroll saw you have there - almost as big
as your table saw. What is it?

Bob

MD

"Morris Dovey"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 3:47 PM

mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net (in
[email protected]) said:

| Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
| better placement of the various tools.

You might consider locating the miter saw somewhere other than in a
corner.

In real life, you'll probably want the table saw turned 90 degrees
with as much space as possible fore and aft. Wheels would be a help -
because in the position shown it'll be in the way every time you want
to get anything of any size into or out of the shop.

Shelves are good. You might consider building shelving units that you
can install at least four feet up and that extend all the way up to
your DC ducting. That'll make it easy to keep tool accessories close
to point of use. In my garage (no longer a shop, but about the size of
your shop) I installed pegboard from bench height to 5'; and built
wall-to-wall open shelves from the top of the pegboard to the ceiling.
It worked well for me - and might or might not for you.

Can your planned DC unit be turned so as to not obstruct either door?

Will the DC ducting interfere with opening the wide door?

What are the grey bars stacked in front of the wide door?

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html

Ww

WillR

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

31/08/2005 6:16 PM

mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net wrote:
> Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and=
=20
> like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too=20
> little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far=
=20
> less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>=20
> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for=20
> better placement of the various tools.
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> The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.
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> The door on the far right comes in from the garage.
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> allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can ope=
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> it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.
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> The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.
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> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg
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> The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.
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> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg
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> Thanks!
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Jack:

Your workshop sucks. How do I know? Same size as mine... It doesn't=20
really work. You suffer it. lol :-)


You have had suggestions as to central placement of the table saw -- BIG =

ISSUE -- listen to them. That's where mine is -- now. Line your saw up=20
so it can take advantage of door ways etc. :-) I often open up the=20
partition door to saw an 8' board... I position the planer so that the=20
finished board goes outside... The bandsaw gets dragged out, pivoted and =

turned -- depends on what I am doing... The drum sander is dragged=20
everywhichway...


I have not found an arrangement that works...

See my equipment page. Bandsaw is on wheels etc...

Much the same equipment and problems.

I am continuously dragging stuff out and shoving it back.

Just find a way to buy a new house. That's all I can suggest. :-(

Some days I get so frustrated I could just... Go and watch TV instead.

Hope you have a sense of humour. :-)

You will need it.


Cheers and best wishes. :-)

--=20
Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw

Gd

"GMD"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 9:06 PM

I would consider putting your tablesaw up against the wall on the right hand
side of the saw.You usually dont need to extend past the end of the rip
fence. All your cutting is done on the left side of the saw. This allows
full maximum use of the saw with least of amount of space being wasted.
Have fun
Guy
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
> like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
> little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
> less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>
> Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
> better placement of the various tools.
>
> The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.
>
> The door on the far right comes in from the garage.
>
> The door in the front is a garage-style door, only 6' wide. This will
> allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can open
> it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.
>
> The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg
>
> The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.
>
> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>

nn

nospambob

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

31/08/2005 9:37 AM

Ensure lights are separate from power circuits.

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:00:06 -0600, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
<"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote:

>
>Plus, I'll have ample outlets around the room no matter what!

ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 5:36 PM

Bob,

I could see eventually getting to the point of getting a planer and a
jointer ... but SWMBO has already let me go beyond my original limits
for tool 'procurements'.

Regarding the DC ductwork, I'll use metal (grounded) ducting for the
main tubings. Some people have said (in various articles I've read)
that you should use flexible ducting from the main conduits down to the
tools, to allow for some movement of the tool. Do you have any
experience with that?

I'd love to see a mapping of your workshop. Do you have a link? If not,
you can email me a picture ... [email protected]

Thanks!

Jack


BobS wrote:
> Jack,
>
> Others have made some valid suggestions and I agree that the work-flow will
> be less than adequate if you use that setup. Although you didn't say
> anything about future tool additions, a portable planer and 6" jointer
> certainly should be planned on. I have a 12'x20' shop and although cramped,
> I have all the tools setup with ductwork in that small area.
>
> Plan for the extra tools now and avoid the hassle of tearing down your
> ductwork later and adding wiring (120VAC for planer, 220VAC for jointer). A
> rule of thumb that I found when planning my shop and asking here was to have
> a minimum of 7' space forward and aft of any stationary tool that you use.
> Most of the things we (hobbyists) typically make will have a max length of
> under 7'.
>
> If you decide on the other tools and want some suggestions, let me know and
> I'll tell you how my shop is setup.
>
> Bob S.
>
> "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>Okay, I'm getting ready to set up my workshop ... it's not very big and
>>like many weekend woodworkers, I probably have too much stuff for too
>>little room. But then again, my father did some fantastic work with far
>>less space available in the corner of his old garage.
>>
>>Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
>>better placement of the various tools.
>>
>>The shop dimensions are 11' x 18'.
>>
>>The door on the far right comes in from the garage.
>>
>>The door in the front is a garage-style door, only 6' wide. This will
>>allow for easy access when I need to move things around, plus I can open
>>it up during the spring and fall when the weather permits.
>>
>>The first picture shows the planned placement of the power tools.
>>
>> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop3.jpg
>>
>>The second picture shows the planned DC hookup.
>>
>> http://www.phronemophobia.com/Workshop/Workshop4.jpg
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Jack
>>
>
>
>

ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 28/08/2005 2:17 PM

28/08/2005 4:03 PM

That would be a great idea if I had the right type of bench. My
workbench is a beast and only is suitable for against-the-wall positioning.

A small cable IP development company was going out of business and they
sold off their equipment to the public. My "bench" is actually an
electrician's workbench ... build like a tank with 18 sockets, super
heavy, and a gem to work on. I layers the top of it with a 1/2" high
quality plywood and it worked great. It has really nice built-in
shelving on its back.

I suppose I could wrench those off and position it against the TS like
you suggest. I'll definitely have to play around with that idea.

Thanks!

Jack

Swingman wrote:

> "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote in message
>
>
>>Anyway, here's my planned setup. I'd appreciate any suggestions for
>>better placement of the various tools.
>
>
> 1. Consider putting the bench and table saw back to back and more centrally
> located, and at the same height, thereby using the bench as your extension
> table.
>
> 2. Consider adapting the
> "miter-saw-stand-sheetgood-lumber-storage-on-wheels" in the latest (Oct/05)
> FWW, to be positioned below the shelves where you have the bench and miter
> saw currently positioned in your drawing.
>


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