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a34655

10/03/2007 3:02 AM

off topic question

I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
XNews to try.


This topic has 21 replies

JP

"Jay Pique"

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

09/03/2007 7:10 PM

On Mar 9, 10:02 pm, a34655 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
> XNews to try.

I used to use Agent, but have been just going through google lately.
Not sure why, I really like agent.
JP

Rd

"Robatoy"

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

09/03/2007 8:00 PM

On Mar 9, 10:02 pm, a34655 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
> XNews to try.

MT-Newswatcher MacOS X, but for a quick read to see what's up, I
simply Google this group in either Safari or FireFox, depending on
what's running.

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

09/03/2007 10:35 PM

"a34655" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
> XNews to try.

Xnews works great once you get familiar with it. I generally use OE, but run
Xnews some too.
Greg

Bi

Bill in Detroit

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 2:33 AM

a34655 wrote:
> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
> XNews to try.
>
>

Thunderbird.

Thunderbird comes fairly close to PAN which, as far as I am concerned,
is the 'gold standard' of newsreaders. Sadly, it isn't available for
Microsoft.

OE gives me a rash.

Bill

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LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 8:50 AM

Peter Huebner wrote:

> I recommend Gravity.
>
> http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/
>
> version 2.6 is the best in my opinion. MicroPlanet decided to discontinue
> developing the project (it was a commercial product once upon a time) and
> turned it loose as unsupported freeware, the original designer then went and
> did one last comprehensive update on his own time which resulted in version

Agreed. It's the best for Windoze. I'm still looking for a good one for
Linux, I've tried a bunch and am currently using Knews but still not happy.
Maybe I'll run Gravity under Wine :-).

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AG

Art Greenberg

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 5:04 PM

On 10 Mar 2007 03:02:12 GMT, a34655 wrote:
> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just
> downloaded XNews to try.

slrn - http://www.slrn.org

Runs on Windows and Linux.

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Bi

Bill in Detroit

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

12/03/2007 4:52 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Bill in Detroit wrote:
>
>
> > Thunderbird comes fairly close to PAN which, as far as I am concerned,
> > is the 'gold standard' of newsreaders. Sadly, it isn't available for
> > Microsoft.
>
> I don't understand, why use anything Microsoft?
>
> That's why Mozilla exists, so you don't have to use Microsoft.
>
> Lew

I used it for the same reason others use it ... it came on the computer.

I left it there because I wanted to give XP a fair trial. "Who knows", I
thought, "maybe it's not a runny heap of troll food anymore."

Okay. I've done that. Using Windows is still painful. It is still beta
software.

I grabbed & burned the ISOs for FC6 a couple days ago. I am also
downloading the Live CD's for FC6 and Unbuntu as I type this. I'll burn
them, reboot and play for a couple days then reboot and play with the
other for a day or two. Then I'll scrape every last byte of Microsoft
off my hard drive.

Bill

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Bill in Detroit

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

12/03/2007 4:52 AM

Larry Blanchard wrote:
> Peter Huebner wrote:
>
>> I recommend Gravity.
>>
>> http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/
>>
>> version 2.6 is the best in my opinion. MicroPlanet decided to discontinue
>> developing the project (it was a commercial product once upon a time) and
>> turned it loose as unsupported freeware, the original designer then went and
>> did one last comprehensive update on his own time which resulted in version
>
> Agreed. It's the best for Windoze. I'm still looking for a good one for
> Linux, I've tried a bunch and am currently using Knews but still not happy.
> Maybe I'll run Gravity under Wine :-).
>


Have you tried PAN?

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Bill in Detroit

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

12/03/2007 4:54 AM

Patriarch wrote:
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in news:465bf$45f2f667$cef88bc5$1405
> @TEKSAVVY.COM:
>
>> "Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> Many other folks have fancier toolkits than mine, too.
>> Fancier tool kits that you? Bah! You're not worth talking to anymore.
>>
>
> We never talked much before, either. ;)
>
> Patriarch
>
>
Silence, they say, is golden. ;-)

Bill


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Puckdropper

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 5:09 AM

"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "a34655" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
>> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just
>> downloaded XNews to try.
>
> Xnews works great once you get familiar with it. I generally use OE,
> but run Xnews some too.
> Greg
>
>

I use Xnews and like it quite a bit. It works well for me, and it's
reasonably intuitive. I don't think about using the program, I think
about doing tasks with it.

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"Upscale"

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 1:18 PM


"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Many other folks have fancier toolkits than mine, too.

Fancier tool kits that you? Bah! You're not worth talking to anymore.

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 4:34 PM

Bill in Detroit wrote:


> Thunderbird comes fairly close to PAN which, as far as I am concerned,
> is the 'gold standard' of newsreaders. Sadly, it isn't available for
> Microsoft.

I don't understand, why use anything Microsoft?

That's why Mozilla exists, so you don't have to use Microsoft.

Lew

PH

Peter Huebner

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 11:58 PM

In article <[email protected]>, a34655
@hotmail.com says...
> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
> XNews to try.
>

I recommend Gravity.

http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/

version 2.6 is the best in my opinion. MicroPlanet decided to discontinue
developing the project (it was a commercial product once upon a time) and
turned it loose as unsupported freeware, the original designer then went and
did one last comprehensive update on his own time which resulted in version 2.6

There is a sourceforge project that has turned out version 2.7 but they had to
drop a bunch of features and change others because of patents and copyright,
and I don't like that version as much.

Another client is Forte Agent.
Forte Agent's interface doesn't work for me: for some reason, I just can't warm
to it. But those two are arguably the two most mature newsreaders out there.

-P.

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PH

Peter Huebner

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

11/03/2007 7:38 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> a34655 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> >software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
> >XNews to try.
>
> I don't know what most people use, but personally if I couldn't use trn
> from a shell account I don'tknow what I'd do.

I never used trn, but going from using tin from a shell account on a long
distance phone call to using waffle offline was an epiphany <g>. You should try
it some time ;-)

-P.

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Pg

Patriarch

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 12:12 PM

a34655 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just
> downloaded XNews to try.

I've been using xnews for maybe 4 or 5 years. Works just fine. Others
have more 'bling', but so what? Many other folks have fancier toolkits
than mine, too.

Patriarch

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 12:36 PM

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in news:465bf$45f2f667$cef88bc5$1405
@TEKSAVVY.COM:

>
> "Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Many other folks have fancier toolkits than mine, too.
>
> Fancier tool kits that you? Bah! You're not worth talking to anymore.
>

We never talked much before, either. ;)

Patriarch

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 12:04 AM

a34655 wrote:
> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just
> downloaded XNews to try.

I've tried quite a lot of newsreaders on both Windows and Linux and for
the moment ended up with Outlook Express with the "OE-Quotefix" add-on.
Agent works but it's not enough better to be worth the price IMO, and
has fallen victim to creeping featuritis. Most of the freeware has
enough, um, "undocumented features", to be annoying. None are perfect.

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JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 3:30 AM

Bill in Detroit wrote:
> a34655 wrote:
>> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
>> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just
>> downloaded XNews to try.
>>
>>
>
> Thunderbird.
>
> Thunderbird comes fairly close to PAN which, as far as I am concerned,
> is the 'gold standard' of newsreaders. Sadly, it isn't available for
> Microsoft.

It isn't? You might want to tell the developers that.
http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/

> OE gives me a rash.
>
> Bill

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lL

[email protected] (Larry W)

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

11/03/2007 4:58 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
a34655 <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
>software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
>XNews to try.

I don't know what most people use, but personally if I couldn't use trn
from a shell account I don'tknow what I'd do.


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LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 3:34 AM

a34655 wrote:
> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
> XNews to try.

Mozilla.

No Microsoft

Lew

f

in reply to a34655 on 10/03/2007 3:02 AM

10/03/2007 9:22 AM

From: a34655 <[email protected]>
> I am fairly new to this news group thing and was just wondering what
> software most people use. I was using outlook express but just downloaded
> XNews to try.

I have a feeling i'll be almost completely unique in this answer:
batimail.

Ok, That's a lie... I used batimail until about last week, now i'm using gnus.

Batmail was a client also developed at CMU to read email/usenet/local bboards
through AMS (Andrew Message System) which we used.
Batimail is a client that was developed at CMU to replace batmail when we
switched to imap based mail/usenet/local bboards.

A couple weeks ago, they decided to discontinue the usenet feed via imap,
and batimail isn't set up to handle external newsfeeds. (AFAIK)

So last week, i made the switch to gnus....
I don't like it as much as bat(i)mail... but at least i can change the
functionality easily enough. (it runs under emacs, which is really easy
to bend to your will.) I can't blow through the groups like i used to
(still learning gnus), but I'm getting used to it.

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