Pictures are up...

Silvan wrote:

> geocities was a lot better when it was geocities. Yahoo puede morderme el
> culo.
>
> It WAS working before I posted the links, BTW.

I believe Geocities only allows so many hits in a given time frame. When I
tried the link you posted earlier today I got a message saying something like
"the limit had been exceeded". I just tried it now and it worked.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

[email protected] wrote:

> Three things that'll make a _big_ difference in image size:

Yeah, that's probably the worst thing. I know those are huge, and they're
probably not compressed very well. I haven't done any web stuff in
literally years, and I'm in the habit of keeping the quality at the max
because I detest lossy file formats. I probably left it at its default,
and it probably defaulted to the least possible compression.

Oh well. I'll probably get motivated to do something about it again in a
few months. It's not like any of this stuff is earth-shatteringly
important.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:32:21 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, yeah, it looks like 50 hits today. Hard to imagine that 50 hits in
>~20 hours could shut me down. They must have really throttled back this
>free service.

It's just a guess, but maybe your ISP meters your account by
"megabytes downloaded by people who visit your website", so if you
made the photos smaller ...
Yours in wild speculation,
Rob.

Mon, Oct 13, 2003, 11:24am [email protected] (Silvan)
says:
I finally figured out how to use Dad's digital camera. <snip>

Well, got to say, your shop's a bit bigger than mine, and a lot
neater. But, mine's painted white inside, and I'm better looking. I
like the chess box tho.

JOAT
I find the best approach is to take life as it comes.
- Death

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 13 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

Jack, did you get to the chess set? I can see Michael but not the chess
set...

dave

Nova wrote:

> Silvan wrote:
>
>
>>geocities was a lot better when it was geocities. Yahoo puede morderme el
>>culo.
>>
>>It WAS working before I posted the links, BTW.
>
>
> I believe Geocities only allows so many hits in a given time frame. When I
> tried the link you posted earlier today I got a message saying something like
> "the limit had been exceeded". I just tried it now and it worked.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>

It's working! I saw your chess board/box/set. Very cool!

dave

Silvan wrote:

> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>
>>At this time I can see you, but not the chess set. that link doesn't
>>work. So, PART of it is working! let us know when you iron out the
>>"technical difficulties".
>
>
> It's not me. It's them. The pages worked when I tested them this morning,
> to make sure I hadn't forgotten to upload anything. There's a remote
> chance I might have missed an image or two, because I didn't wait for all
> of them to load, but the HTML is definitely all there, and the links were
> working.
>

At this time I can see you, but not the chess set. that link doesn't
work. So, PART of it is working! let us know when you iron out the
"technical difficulties".

dave

Silvan wrote:

> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>
>>yahoo's site is having a bit of a problem right now. I posted earlier
>>that you "exceeded the allocated data transfer", then realized it isn't
>>just your pages...
>
>
> Well, that's just freaking great. I spent ten hours on that stupid thing,
> and now nobody can see it.
>
> I have like the only ISP in America that doesn't offer any free web space
> whatsoever, and I'm sure not going to pay a fee to get my "look at me"
> drivel looked at 700 times a year.
>
> geocities was a lot better when it was geocities. Yahoo puede morderme el
> culo.
>
> It WAS working before I posted the links, BTW.
>

Silvan wrote:

> I guess Yeehaw is throttling me after all.

Yup. It interrupted my browsing. "Over the limit." Bah, Humbug!

-- Mark

In article <[email protected]>,
Jack Forbes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Silvan
>
>I suspect first, that the counters aren't always right. My
>studies say a lot of hits don't get counted
>.
>Second. I don't think they count hits as much as they count
>bandwidth, or how MUCH data is transferred. If your photo files
>are on the large size, and if we all looked at almost all the
>pictures, that's the count that matters. We could use up your
>quota real quick.

CONFIRM. it is data-transferred. and the limit is a relatively
small number of _megabytes_. I think it's something like 10mb.
definitely no more than 25mb.

Three things that'll make a _big_ difference in image size:
Use JPG format instead of GIF, unless you're dealing with a -very-
limited set of colors (e.g. 16 or less)
For JPG, use 8-bit color depth, instead of 24. (i.e., only 256 colors)
8-bit color files are *one*third* of the size of 24-bit color
Dial the 'jpg quality' down a bit. a setting in the 70-75% range,
vs the default 85%, doesn't make a noticable difference in the
viewed image, but can reduce the file size by as much as 25%.
There are no hard-and-fast rules on whats a 'right' setting for
this -- it varies picture-to-picture. The thing to do is keep
trying smaller and smaller values (higher compression) until there
is an 'unacceptable' loss of detail. then use a 'slightly higher'
setting.


I've seen reductions of a _factor_of_10_ -- 600+kb to 60kb.

"ELAhrens" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hate to tell you this slick, but the links are dead
>
>
> "Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I finally figured out how to use Dad's digital camera. Sort of.
> >
> > I threw up a quick and dirty shop tour page. It features, among other
> > things, a shot of me looking like a total goober while attempting to
> appear
> > all dignified and stuff. The camera decided to make my beard the same
> > color as my hat, and that shirt isn't very flattering at all. Oh well,
> > here it is:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/shop.html
> >
> > Also some shots of my much blathered about chess box:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/chess-box.html
> >
> > My trebuchet:
snip, snip....

Links work good for me and I'm 4,000 miles away on a dial-up modem.
Might be best to edit out the portrait....(grin).
Nice chess box and now I know what a "Trebuchet" is - a Roman catapult.
And alot of badges on your shirt....But nice workshop.

Rgds

Noel

noel dot hegan at virgin dot net

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
> > yahoo's site is having a bit of a problem right now. I posted earlier
> > that you "exceeded the allocated data transfer", then realized it isn't
> > just your pages...
>
> Well, that's just freaking great. I spent ten hours on that stupid thing,
> and now nobody can see it.
>
> I have like the only ISP in America that doesn't offer any free web space
> whatsoever, and I'm sure not going to pay a fee to get my "look at me"
> drivel looked at 700 times a year.

... as do I. DirecWay excels in the customer service department NOT
(6 months and I still don't have anyone to install the new receiver and
LNB to solve my dropout problems)

>
> geocities was a lot better when it was geocities. Yahoo puede morderme el
> culo.
>

... and I was laughing mine off. [Thanks Google, for the translation
attempt -- I got the gist] :=)


> It WAS working before I posted the links, BTW.
>
>

Bay Area Dave wrote:

> At this time I can see you, but not the chess set. that link doesn't
> work. So, PART of it is working! let us know when you iron out the
> "technical difficulties".

It's not me. It's them. The pages worked when I tested them this morning,
to make sure I hadn't forgotten to upload anything. There's a remote
chance I might have missed an image or two, because I didn't wait for all
of them to load, but the HTML is definitely all there, and the links were
working.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Silvan

I suspect first, that the counters aren't always right. My
studies say a lot of hits don't get counted
.
Second. I don't think they count hits as much as they count
bandwidth, or how MUCH data is transferred. If your photo files
are on the large size, and if we all looked at almost all the
pictures, that's the count that matters. We could use up your
quota real quick.

I think normally, you won't have that problem. If you post your
link here again sometime and it does it again. Then you'll know
whether or not to consider getting a different ISP.


On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:32:21 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Jack Forbes wrote:
>
>> Look at it as a compliment. A lot of people want to see your
>> site.
>
>Well, there could be the untold masses who saw it and had nothing to say I
>guess.
>
>Well, yeah, it looks like 50 hits today. Hard to imagine that 50 hits in
>~20 hours could shut me down. They must have really throttled back this
>free service.
>
>Well, it's worth what I'm paying for it, I guess.

My e-mail address is real.
Feel free to use it.
I know how to delete spam.

Jon wrote:

> I've heard the only downside of JPEG is that everytime the photo is opened
> for editing and saved (not with a new name), some of the quality gets
> lost.

Yup. They call it "lossy compression" because some of the data gets thrown
away forever each time you compress it.

I really don't like the concept. I keep pure data as much as I can afford
to. .WAV files and pure-bitmap format images. Sucks up a lot of disk
space, but I've been wasting disk space like crazy for three years, and I
still have over 10 GB free.

>>snip< It's not like any of this stuff is earth-shatteringly important.
>
> Yea well... It's a fine site just the same!

Glad you think so. :)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Bay Area Dave wrote:

> It's working! I saw your chess board/box/set. Very cool!

Glad you think so. :)

I guess Yeehaw is throttling me after all.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Bay Area Dave wrote:

> yahoo's site is having a bit of a problem right now. I posted earlier
> that you "exceeded the allocated data transfer", then realized it isn't
> just your pages...

Well, that's just freaking great. I spent ten hours on that stupid thing,
and now nobody can see it.

I have like the only ISP in America that doesn't offer any free web space
whatsoever, and I'm sure not going to pay a fee to get my "look at me"
drivel looked at 700 times a year.

geocities was a lot better when it was geocities. Yahoo puede morderme el
culo.

It WAS working before I posted the links, BTW.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621

Jack Forbes wrote:

> Look at it as a compliment. A lot of people want to see your
> site.

Well, there could be the untold masses who saw it and had nothing to say I
guess.

Well, yeah, it looks like 50 hits today. Hard to imagine that 50 hits in
~20 hours could shut me down. They must have really throttled back this
free service.

Well, it's worth what I'm paying for it, I guess.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Yesterday, I couldn't get to any of them. I haven't got to try
yet today, because it looks like I deleted the message with the
links. Some one should post here soon copying the links. I'll
try again. Don't worry, it's nothing wrong. I've seen this
group bring down a site before. Some sites are limited on the
daily traffic they are allowed at the free and less priced
sites.

Jack

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:36:53 GMT, Bay Area Dave
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Jack, did you get to the chess set? I can see Michael but not the chess
>set...
>
>dave
>
>Nova wrote:
>
>> Silvan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>geocities was a lot better when it was geocities. Yahoo puede morderme el
>>>culo.
>>>
>>>It WAS working before I posted the links, BTW.
>>
>>
>> I believe Geocities only allows so many hits in a given time frame. When I
>> tried the link you posted earlier today I got a message saying something like
>> "the limit had been exceeded". I just tried it now and it worked.
>>
>> --
>> Jack Novak
>> Buffalo, NY - USA
>> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>>
>>

My e-mail address is real.
Feel free to use it.
I know how to delete spam.

I saw it for a few seconds...I saw a pic of you wearing a hat, and some of a
Peterbuilt.


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
> > yahoo's site is having a bit of a problem right now. I posted earlier
> > that you "exceeded the allocated data transfer", then realized it isn't
> > just your pages...
>
> Well, that's just freaking great. I spent ten hours on that stupid thing,
> and now nobody can see it.
>
> I have like the only ISP in America that doesn't offer any free web space
> whatsoever, and I'm sure not going to pay a fee to get my "look at me"
> drivel looked at 700 times a year.
>
> geocities was a lot better when it was geocities. Yahoo puede morderme el
> culo.
>
> It WAS working before I posted the links, BTW.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
>
>

T. wrote:

> Well, got to say, your shop's a bit bigger than mine, and a lot
> neater. But, mine's painted white inside, and I'm better looking. I
> like the chess box tho.

My shop is *neater* than yours? O_o I guess I lost my place for messiest
shop ever. (Though of course it only looked as neat as that until after
the pictures were taken. Now it's covered with shavings and sawdust, and
stuff piled up on the workbench again.)

Glad you like the box. In practice, I think I need to change a couple of
things. It's not holding up that well in actual use. I need to
reconfigure the guts of the box somehow to stop the liner from wanting to
come out, and to make better use of the space.

Or else just stop taking the trays out... :)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

You posting your links is what did it. I think we don't realize
sometimes how many of us are here. I've seen more then one web
site brought down for the day by a link here. JOATs links have
brought down quite a few for the day.

Look at it as a compliment. A lot of people want to see your
site.

Jack

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:56:33 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>> yahoo's site is having a bit of a problem right now. I posted earlier
>> that you "exceeded the allocated data transfer", then realized it isn't
>> just your pages...
>
>Well, that's just freaking great. I spent ten hours on that stupid thing,
>and now nobody can see it.
>
>I have like the only ISP in America that doesn't offer any free web space
>whatsoever, and I'm sure not going to pay a fee to get my "look at me"
>drivel looked at 700 times a year.
>
>geocities was a lot better when it was geocities. Yahoo puede morderme el
>culo.
>
>It WAS working before I posted the links, BTW.

My e-mail address is real.
Feel free to use it.
I know how to delete spam.

AH HAA, There's your problem. Your using up all your bandwidth
yourself. You're going to have to quit looking at your own site.
8:)

Jack



On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:26:19 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>> At this time I can see you, but not the chess set. that link doesn't
>> work. So, PART of it is working! let us know when you iron out the
>> "technical difficulties".
>
>It's not me. It's them. The pages worked when I tested them this morning,
>to make sure I hadn't forgotten to upload anything. There's a remote
>chance I might have missed an image or two, because I didn't wait for all
>of them to load, but the HTML is definitely all there, and the links were
>working.

My e-mail address is real.
Feel free to use it.
I know how to delete spam.

Your links don't work because you've exceeded the "allocated data
transfer".


dave

Silvan wrote:

> I finally figured out how to use Dad's digital camera. Sort of.
>
> I threw up a quick and dirty shop tour page. It features, among other
> things, a shot of me looking like a total goober while attempting to appear
> all dignified and stuff. The camera decided to make my beard the same
> color as my hat, and that shirt isn't very flattering at all. Oh well,
> here it is:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/shop.html
>
> Also some shots of my much blathered about chess box:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/chess-box.html
>
> My trebuchet:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/treb.html
>
> There's also a page with a few shots of project highlights. Not everything
> I've ever done, but most of the important landmarks. I'll leave you to
> find it on your own.
>
> None of this stuff makes me look like a competent woodworker, but at least
> you get some idea where I'm coming from. Maybe my stuff is that "complete
> piece of shit where the builder had that certain gleam in his eye, and you
> didn't have the heart to tell him what a complete piece of shit it was..."
> :)
>
> You can also look at the same old, tired, pointless crap I've had there
> since 1997 if you're really bored.
>
> Modem users, I'm sorry. I should have set the quality lower. These pages
> are taking for freaking ever to load. (I'm a modem user too.) I don't
> have time to re-do everything right now, so go read the Wreck while you
> wait. Broadband users, you suck.
>

Hate to tell you this slick, but the links are dead


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I finally figured out how to use Dad's digital camera. Sort of.
>
> I threw up a quick and dirty shop tour page. It features, among other
> things, a shot of me looking like a total goober while attempting to
appear
> all dignified and stuff. The camera decided to make my beard the same
> color as my hat, and that shirt isn't very flattering at all. Oh well,
> here it is:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/shop.html
>
> Also some shots of my much blathered about chess box:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/chess-box.html
>
> My trebuchet:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/treb.html
>
> There's also a page with a few shots of project highlights. Not
everything
> I've ever done, but most of the important landmarks. I'll leave you to
> find it on your own.
>
> None of this stuff makes me look like a competent woodworker, but at least
> you get some idea where I'm coming from. Maybe my stuff is that "complete
> piece of shit where the builder had that certain gleam in his eye, and you
> didn't have the heart to tell him what a complete piece of shit it was..."
> :)
>
> You can also look at the same old, tired, pointless crap I've had there
> since 1997 if you're really bored.
>
> Modem users, I'm sorry. I should have set the quality lower. These pages
> are taking for freaking ever to load. (I'm a modem user too.) I don't
> have time to re-do everything right now, so go read the Wreck while you
> wait. Broadband users, you suck.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>

Send a letter to them (DirecWay) and tell them your not going pay (All or
part) of your bill until your satisfied. Copy the letter to the BBB and the
FTC. It's always fun to add another name to the cc: list, something like
cc: Firstname Lastname, Esq. (As requested)

Erik Ahrens
Apprentice Termite


"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > Bay Area Dave wrote:
> >
> > > yahoo's site is having a bit of a problem right now. I posted earlier
> > > that you "exceeded the allocated data transfer", then realized it
isn't
> > > just your pages...
> >
> > Well, that's just freaking great. I spent ten hours on that stupid
thing,
> > and now nobody can see it.
> >
> > I have like the only ISP in America that doesn't offer any free web
space
> > whatsoever, and I'm sure not going to pay a fee to get my "look at me"
> > drivel looked at 700 times a year.
>
> ... as do I. DirecWay excels in the customer service department NOT
> (6 months and I still don't have anyone to install the new receiver and
> LNB to solve my dropout problems)
>
> >
> > geocities was a lot better when it was geocities. Yahoo puede morderme
el
> > culo.
> >
>
> ... and I was laughing mine off. [Thanks Google, for the translation
> attempt -- I got the gist] :=)
>
>
> > It WAS working before I posted the links, BTW.
> >
> >

"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote
> Yeah, that's probably the worst thing. I know those are huge, and they're
> probably not compressed very well.

I've heard the only downside of JPEG is that everytime the photo is opened
for editing and saved (not with a new name), some of the quality gets lost.
If you work from the original, compress away...that's what it's best for.

>snip< It's not like any of this stuff is earth-shatteringly important.

Yea well... It's a fine site just the same!
Jon

yahoo's site is having a bit of a problem right now. I posted earlier
that you "exceeded the allocated data transfer", then realized it isn't
just your pages...

dave

Silvan wrote:

> I finally figured out how to use Dad's digital camera. Sort of.
>
> I threw up a quick and dirty shop tour page. It features, among other
> things, a shot of me looking like a total goober while attempting to appear
> all dignified and stuff. The camera decided to make my beard the same
> color as my hat, and that shirt isn't very flattering at all. Oh well,
> here it is:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/shop.html
>
> Also some shots of my much blathered about chess box:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/chess-box.html
>
> My trebuchet:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/treb.html
>
> There's also a page with a few shots of project highlights. Not everything
> I've ever done, but most of the important landmarks. I'll leave you to
> find it on your own.
>
> None of this stuff makes me look like a competent woodworker, but at least
> you get some idea where I'm coming from. Maybe my stuff is that "complete
> piece of shit where the builder had that certain gleam in his eye, and you
> didn't have the heart to tell him what a complete piece of shit it was..."
> :)
>
> You can also look at the same old, tired, pointless crap I've had there
> since 1997 if you're really bored.
>
> Modem users, I'm sorry. I should have set the quality lower. These pages
> are taking for freaking ever to load. (I'm a modem user too.) I don't
> have time to re-do everything right now, so go read the Wreck while you
> wait. Broadband users, you suck.
>