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[email protected] (Joshua Goodstein)

18/11/2003 5:47 AM

Air Compressor newbie ?'s

I recently picked up a air compressor for around the house tasks(what
I told my swmbo) and wood working. Now I know I should have gotten
something more pricey but the new harbor freight opened by my house
and I picked up a compressor(2hp, 4 gallon), and brad nailer from
there for pretty cheap, I figure the amount of time that I will be
using it won't be such a big deal, plus I already recognize that if it
breaks, well its no big loss to me. On that note I have 2 questions:

1. The CFM at 90 and 40 what is better higher numbers or lower
numbers?
2. I read about using a propane tank as a secondary tank. I have a 4
gallon pancake tank and was wondering if you could connect a propane
tank directly to the compressor through piping and then a regulator
and my tools on the other side of the propane tank. this way I'm
sucking off of the propane tank and not the compressor itself giving
me a little more time.


Granted to run my brad nailer and air wrench to change tires its not
really a big deal, but I wanted to see what my options are for this
little baby why I had her. I am planning on buying a much larger
(professional grade) compressor in a year or two when I get a new
house. So I don't want to sink to much on it. Thank you in advance for
your recomendations.

Joshua Goodstein


This topic has 5 replies

CN

"Clint Neufeld"

in reply to [email protected] (Joshua Goodstein) on 18/11/2003 5:47 AM

18/11/2003 3:23 PM

Personally, I think I'd be a little careful what kind of tank I crank up to
100+ psi.

Clint

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Joshua Goodstein" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
>
> > 2. I read about using a propane tank as a secondary tank. I have a 4
> > gallon pancake tank and was wondering if you could connect a propane
> > tank directly to the compressor through piping and then a regulator
> > and my tools on the other side of the propane tank. this way I'm
> > sucking off of the propane tank and not the compressor itself giving
> > me a little more time.
> >
> Any sort of tank will work. Make it so it can be bypassed though. The
> downside is that if you want to use your brad nailer for say, 10 shots,
you
> must pressurize the entire systems to at least the minimum required to
> operate the tool. In theory, you can connect a 500 gallon tank and have a
> huge reserve, but it will take a damned long time to pump it up enough to
> drive that first brad.
> Ed
>
>

Bb

"BeerBoy"

in reply to [email protected] (Joshua Goodstein) on 18/11/2003 5:47 AM

18/11/2003 11:41 PM

The pancake compressors are pretty much only good for brad nailers, pumping
up your tire, and blowing dust off things. They don't have enough CFM to
run most air tools. I'm not hacking your choice, I have one too and their
nice to have because they are portable. They are very limited though. I
got the PC package with the brad nailer and I figured even if the compressor
died after a year or two, it came with a decent nailer and the price was
right.

"Joshua Goodstein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently picked up a air compressor for around the house tasks(what
> I told my swmbo) and wood working. Now I know I should have gotten
> something more pricey but the new harbor freight opened by my house
> and I picked up a compressor(2hp, 4 gallon), and brad nailer from
> there for pretty cheap, I figure the amount of time that I will be
> using it won't be such a big deal, plus I already recognize that if it
> breaks, well its no big loss to me. On that note I have 2 questions:
>
> 1. The CFM at 90 and 40 what is better higher numbers or lower
> numbers?
> 2. I read about using a propane tank as a secondary tank. I have a 4
> gallon pancake tank and was wondering if you could connect a propane
> tank directly to the compressor through piping and then a regulator
> and my tools on the other side of the propane tank. this way I'm
> sucking off of the propane tank and not the compressor itself giving
> me a little more time.
>
>
> Granted to run my brad nailer and air wrench to change tires its not
> really a big deal, but I wanted to see what my options are for this
> little baby why I had her. I am planning on buying a much larger
> (professional grade) compressor in a year or two when I get a new
> house. So I don't want to sink to much on it. Thank you in advance for
> your recomendations.
>
> Joshua Goodstein

MC

Mike Coonrod

in reply to [email protected] (Joshua Goodstein) on 18/11/2003 5:47 AM

18/11/2003 8:04 AM

High numbers are better. The number will give you the most it will be
able to drive with respect to tools. If you look at a given tool, it
will have number at a given pressure. Most compressors can run a nail
gun, even a big framing nailer, the cheaper compressors (with low
numbers) will just run more, as in cycle more to the keep pressure.

I don't think I would add a propane tank for extra volume, I guess it
would work.

Note; an air wrench will take a bunch of air. You *should* be able to
change a tire but that little pancake will run the entire time you use
the wrench.

Good luck

Joshua Goodstein wrote:
> I recently picked up a air compressor for around the house tasks(what
> I told my swmbo) and wood working. Now I know I should have gotten
> something more pricey but the new harbor freight opened by my house
> and I picked up a compressor(2hp, 4 gallon), and brad nailer from
> there for pretty cheap, I figure the amount of time that I will be
> using it won't be such a big deal, plus I already recognize that if it
> breaks, well its no big loss to me. On that note I have 2 questions:
>
> 1. The CFM at 90 and 40 what is better higher numbers or lower
> numbers?
> 2. I read about using a propane tank as a secondary tank. I have a 4
> gallon pancake tank and was wondering if you could connect a propane
> tank directly to the compressor through piping and then a regulator
> and my tools on the other side of the propane tank. this way I'm
> sucking off of the propane tank and not the compressor itself giving
> me a little more time.
>
>
> Granted to run my brad nailer and air wrench to change tires its not
> really a big deal, but I wanted to see what my options are for this
> little baby why I had her. I am planning on buying a much larger
> (professional grade) compressor in a year or two when I get a new
> house. So I don't want to sink to much on it. Thank you in advance for
> your recomendations.
>
> Joshua Goodstein

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (Joshua Goodstein) on 18/11/2003 5:47 AM

18/11/2003 2:48 PM


"Joshua Goodstein" <[email protected]> wrote in message >

> 2. I read about using a propane tank as a secondary tank. I have a 4
> gallon pancake tank and was wondering if you could connect a propane
> tank directly to the compressor through piping and then a regulator
> and my tools on the other side of the propane tank. this way I'm
> sucking off of the propane tank and not the compressor itself giving
> me a little more time.
>
Any sort of tank will work. Make it so it can be bypassed though. The
downside is that if you want to use your brad nailer for say, 10 shots, you
must pressurize the entire systems to at least the minimum required to
operate the tool. In theory, you can connect a 500 gallon tank and have a
huge reserve, but it will take a damned long time to pump it up enough to
drive that first brad.
Ed

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] (Joshua Goodstein) on 18/11/2003 5:47 AM

18/11/2003 3:42 PM

I thought a tank had to be an ASME certified pressure vessel. "Any"
tank isn't quite sufficient for pumping up to 125#. Be careful fellas...

dave

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> "Joshua Goodstein" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
>
>>2. I read about using a propane tank as a secondary tank. I have a 4
>>gallon pancake tank and was wondering if you could connect a propane
>>tank directly to the compressor through piping and then a regulator
>>and my tools on the other side of the propane tank. this way I'm
>>sucking off of the propane tank and not the compressor itself giving
>>me a little more time.
>>
>
> Any sort of tank will work. Make it so it can be bypassed though. The
> downside is that if you want to use your brad nailer for say, 10 shots, you
> must pressurize the entire systems to at least the minimum required to
> operate the tool. In theory, you can connect a 500 gallon tank and have a
> huge reserve, but it will take a damned long time to pump it up enough to
> drive that first brad.
> Ed
>
>


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