Opinions on this first drill press

On Jul 4, 2018, Sonny wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):

> I might go check out this DP, give it to my nephew, if I buy.
>
> https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/porter-cable-drill-press/6634388357.htm
> l
>
> Here's another, for your entertainment. I emailed this guy telling him he's
> asking way too much, not that I was interested in it. He was asking $650 for
> it. His original posting had listed all sorts of amenities, several wrong
> ones. I pointed out several things wrong with it and his posted write-up. He
> dropped his price to $450.... still way too much. I emailed Delta the serial
> number, asking the year made, no reply. Later, I called Delta and they told
> me the DP was made in 1942. 3 days later, Delta replies to the email and says
> it was made in '72. Go figure! Anyway, as a quiz, what can you sight as being
> wrong with it?
> <https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/delta-rockwell-14-high-speed/6621890648
> .html>
It’s intended for drilling very small holes in fiberglass circuit board.

It will be way too fast for ordinary woodworking, and the drills will burn in
the wood. There are better choices for this.

For a drill press that old, I’d worry that the runout had become too large
to be able to drill such small holes without breaking the drill bit (usually
carbide). At that speed, if the journal bearings are not kept clean and well
oiled, the bearings have likely worn out.

Joe Gwinn

On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 9:05:58 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> I might go check out this DP, give it to my nephew, if I buy.
> https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/porter-cable-drill-press/663438835=
7.html
>=20
> Here's another, for your entertainment. I emailed this guy telling him h=
e's asking way too much, not that I was interested in it. He was asking $6=
50 for it. His original posting had listed all sorts of amenities, severa=
l wrong ones. I pointed out several things wrong with it and his posted wr=
ite-up. He dropped his price to $450.... still way too much. I emailed =
Delta the serial number, asking the year made, no reply. Later, I called D=
elta and they told me the DP was made in 1942. 3 days later, Delta replie=
s to the email and says it was made in '72. Go figure! Anyway, as a quiz=
, what can you sight as being wrong with it?
> https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/delta-rockwell-14-high-speed/66218=
90648.html
>=20
> Sonny


Sonny, its got a 4" quill travel and the motor works, get it. The table wo=
uld be a good woodworking project for him. Stumpy Nubs has a very nice, lo=
w profile, table and your local steel yard/machine shop has a piece of pipe=
you can use to mount it.

http://www.stumpynubs.com/compact-drill-press-table.html

I did something similar on a very large Grizzly.

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:44:57 PM UTC-5, Mark H wrote:
> I picked up a craftsman at a garage sale . Dated it to about 1939 all cas=
t iron base and table . It did have some rust but a little time with a buff=
ing wheel , some new paint it looks like new. FYI - NO run out and a 1/2 i=
n chuck. the best part he dropped his price from $50 to $35.

>> I might go check out this DP, give it to my nephew, if I buy.=20
https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/porter-cable-drill-press/6634388357.=
html=20

I went by the next morning, to check out this DP, but it was already gone. =
It was probably a good buy.

Similiarly, Oct 2014, Lamberts Prosthetics & Orthotics closed their office/=
shop, here, and I bought their floor model Craftsman DP, in very good shape=
, for $50. I had, also, bought their 20" Davis & Wells bandsaw and a flam=
mables cabinet. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.woodworking/o1J1=
wVxbVd4/U111_PxdOPkJ;context-place=3Dforum/rec.woodworking

Sonny

I picked up a craftsman at a garage sale . Dated it to about 1939 all cast =
iron base and table . It did have some rust but a little time with a buffin=
g wheel , some new paint it looks like new. FYI - NO run out and a 1/2 in =
chuck. the best part he dropped his price from $50 to $35.

On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 6:45:43 PM UTC-4, Joseph Gwinn wrote:

> It=E2=80=99s intended for drilling very small holes in fiberglass circuit=
board.
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> It will be way too fast for ordinary woodworking, and the drills will bur=
n in=20
> the wood. There are better choices for this.

Metal drilling with flood cooling would be a good use, too.
You're probably right about the intended use.

> For a drill press that old, I=E2=80=99d worry that the runout had become =
too large ...

Yeah, but bearings are cheap. It won't have a bent spindle, not if it's =
only
used on small drills. Worn three-jaw chuck would be my primary concern.

On 7/5/2018 8:30 AM, Spalted Walt wrote:
...

>> ...Anyway, as a quiz, what can you sight as being wrong with it?
>> https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/delta-rockwell-14-high-speed/6621890648.html
>
> Missing table?
> <https://d278yjzsv5tla9.cloudfront.net/archive_images/1130/69042/69042_5837854.JPG>
>
> Tiny 1/4" chuck?

<http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=16397>

Also missing the table...as the owner there points out, the -300 was
apparently a very specialized-purpose machine...he opines might have
been intended for manual circuit board-making or the like--at that time
that might have been a possible market; perhaps Rockwell made the
prototypes for themselves in those days and thought there might be a
niche market???

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"Sonny" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

I might go check out this DP, give it to my nephew, if I buy.
https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/porter-cable-drill-press/6634388357.html

Here's another, for your entertainment. I emailed this guy telling him he's
asking way too much, not that I was interested in it. He was asking $650
for it. His original posting had listed all sorts of amenities, several
wrong ones. I pointed out several things wrong with it and his posted
write-up. He dropped his price to $450.... still way too much. I emailed
Delta the serial number, asking the year made, no reply. Later, I called
Delta and they told me the DP was made in 1942. 3 days later, Delta
replies to the email and says it was made in '72. Go figure! Anyway, as a
quiz, what can you sight as being wrong with it?
https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/delta-rockwell-14-high-speed/6621890648.html

Sonny

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If it works and doesn't clatter or have too horrible much runout (it will
have some) and it works I'd buy it in a second for only $50. It’s just a
branded import, but I do like the external quill stop better than the collar
ones. The machine light is a nice ouch as well. I might question why its
wrapped in saran wrap, but it might have just been to keep coolant, oil, and
chips out of the switches. I've seen that done before. Only having one
handle tells me it was used by somebody who had a favor for that free swing.
Several of my machines only have one handle, and I am seriously thinking
about pitching the cast handle on my similar drill press in favor of making
my own collar with a single handle.

Even the used Harbor Freight drills in that size class tend to sell for a
lot more than $50 LOL. If you check it out, and its ok. Even if you don't
like it later you can certainly sell it. Of course it does need to check
out as "ok" first.

If the bearings are bad I'd pass though. Its still just a branded import.

Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:

> I might go check out this DP, give it to my nephew, if I buy.
> https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/porter-cable-drill-press/6634388357.html

IMO even though it's missing 2 handles and the switch is held on with
scotch tape, $50 is not a bad price.

> ...Anyway, as a quiz, what can you sight as being wrong with it?
> https://lafayette.craigslist.org/tls/d/delta-rockwell-14-high-speed/6621890648.html

Missing table?
<https://d278yjzsv5tla9.cloudfront.net/archive_images/1130/69042/69042_5837854.JPG>

Tiny 1/4" chuck?