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[email protected] (Charlie Self)

28/10/2003 4:08 PM

Recutting dovetail saw teeth

Somewhere, somehow I saw something last year about re-cutting the teeth on ye
olde average dovetail saw. I've done this once before, but it was under
someone's tutelage about 30 years ago, maybe more. More likely more.

Essentially, mostly filing off the old teeths' set and then filing and
resetting as a rip saw.

Anyone have any details I might be able to use?

Charlie Self
"Ain't no man can avoid being born average, but there ain't no man got to be
common." Satchel Paige















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Wolfgang Jordan

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 28/10/2003 4:08 PM

29/10/2003 8:17 AM

Charlie Self wrote:
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I don't know if Pete Taran goes into this, but his article on saw filing
is a worthwhile read:
http://www.vintagesaws.com/library/primer/sharp.html

Wolfgang
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in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 28/10/2003 4:08 PM

29/10/2003 3:20 PM

Charlie Self wrote:

> Somewhere, somehow I saw something last year about re-cutting the teeth on ye
> olde average dovetail saw.

Get Tom Law's video on sharpenning. He does a bit on recutting teeth.
You can get it from toolsforworkingwood.com

Also Mario Rodriguez did an article in Fine Woodworking 121 Nov/Dec 1996

jw

LH

"Lowell Holmes"

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 28/10/2003 4:08 PM

28/10/2003 3:51 PM

Paul Sellers at Homestead Heritage mentioned using a sabre saw blade with
the right tooth count. He said to clamp it to the side of the dovetail saw
and use it as a guide to cut the new teeth with. When you got to the end of
the guide (sabre saw blade), move it down, index it to the last tooth cut,
and continue until finished.
I've never tried it, but I bet it will work. The link to Homestead Heritage
is
http://homesteadheritage.com/woodworking/index.html

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Tom Watson

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 28/10/2003 4:08 PM

28/10/2003 1:21 PM

Charlie:

It bothered me that I couldn't lay my hand on an article dealing with
this so I went on what I figured might turn out to be a snipe hunt.

Found a snipe, though.

Ian Kirby did a sidebar on sharpening backsaws (including dovetail
saws) in issue #39 of FWW, which was later compiled into the Taunton,
"Fine Woodworking On...", series book, "Hand Tools.

It looks pretty solid. If you don't have access to either of the
above sources, I can scan it and send you a .jpg.


Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

tT

[email protected] (ToolMiser)

in reply to Tom Watson on 28/10/2003 1:21 PM

28/10/2003 7:41 PM

Sounds interesting, and I would appreciate a copy of it also. I have two older
saws that need to be touched up, and I always forget to ask my shapening person
if they can do them.

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 28/10/2003 4:08 PM

28/10/2003 4:45 PM

On 28 Oct 2003 16:08:49 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Somewhere, somehow I saw something last year about re-cutting the teeth on ye
>olde average dovetail saw. I've done this once before, but it was under
>someone's tutelage about 30 years ago, maybe more. More likely more.
>
>Essentially, mostly filing off the old teeths' set and then filing and
>resetting as a rip saw.
>
>Anyone have any details I might be able to use?
>
>Charlie Self
>"Ain't no man can avoid being born average, but there ain't no man got to be
>common." Satchel Paige
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This can be done, although not with pull-cut Japanese saws. There is
a tool that fits over the saw teeth to guide a file over the teeth. I
beleive I've seen this descibed in a tool sharpening book by "Lee."
It takes patience, bright natural light, magnification and a keen eye.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 28/10/2003 4:08 PM

28/10/2003 11:56 AM

On 28 Oct 2003 16:08:49 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Somewhere, somehow I saw something last year about re-cutting the teeth on ye
>olde average dovetail saw. I've done this once before, but it was under
>someone's tutelage about 30 years ago, maybe more. More likely more.
>
>Essentially, mostly filing off the old teeths' set and then filing and
>resetting as a rip saw.
>
>Anyone have any details I might be able to use?

Charlie:

This is one of those areas, "...where angels fear to tread."

The Galoots get into this pretty good, though. Here's a link to their
search page.

http://denali.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu:8080/~cswingle/archive/search.phtml

I usually refer to Leonard Lee's book on sharpening but even he
doesn't have much to say about this. I just satisfy myself with
following the old tooth configuration with a feather edge file.

Good luck.


Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson


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