Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z. I'm brand new to the hobby, and
have never used a table saw in my life; but I would like to eventually get
into making nice cabinets, bookshelves, end tables, etc., after making a
birdhouse or two.
I know I'm just starting, but I do not want the frustration of dealing with
a lousy machine when I advance to making furniture for my home. I want the
most bang for my buck (obviously), but I don't want to have to open a second
mortgage on the house, if you know what I mean, and I think this might be
the machine I need. But I figured I might as well submit my decission to
the group for a final evaluation from the pros, just in case.
And if anyone has a good suggestion for an unabridged woodworkers reference
text, feel free to throw that in too.
Thanks in advance,
-Mike
Oh boy, now you've done it.
Don
"Mike H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Why a left tilt?
>
>
>
> "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Mike H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
>> > finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z.
>>
>> Mike, I don't know the saw, but I'd prefer a left tilt saw. I see that
> have
>> the same saw available with left tilt in January (lousy timing for
>> Christmas).
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>
>
You know, I've heard that before. I had a Griz G1022 series before I bought
the G1023SL. I built allot of furniture with that 1022 and never bogged it
down using a CMT "General" thin kerf blade. I sold it to someone who built
a house and a garage and cut a tremendous amount of 2x material with it - he
said it went through it with no trouble.
The only thing I didn't care for was that the fence wasn't as nice as I
would have liked. Now that I have the 1023SL, I really don't see any
difference in quality, but definately a difference in power. Not sure I
needed it, but between that and the fact that dust collection is much nicer,
I'm glad I moved up.
Don
"Tim Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mike,
>
> If you don't want to spend the $300 or so for a Grizzly or Delta
> cabinet saw. At least spent the money on a Forrest WWII blade. That
> should keep you for a while.
>
> I will tell you that if you get into this to make furniture for your
> home, you will end up buying another saw. At least you can keep the
> blade.
>
>
>
> "Mike H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
>> finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z. I'm brand new to the hobby, and
>> have never used a table saw in my life; but I would like to eventually
>> get
>> into making nice cabinets, bookshelves, end tables, etc., after making a
>> birdhouse or two.
>>
>> I know I'm just starting, but I do not want the frustration of dealing
>> with
>> a lousy machine when I advance to making furniture for my home. I want
>> the
>> most bang for my buck (obviously), but I don't want to have to open a
>> second
>> mortgage on the house, if you know what I mean, and I think this might be
>> the machine I need. But I figured I might as well submit my decission to
>> the group for a final evaluation from the pros, just in case.
>>
>> And if anyone has a good suggestion for an unabridged woodworkers
>> reference
>> text, feel free to throw that in too.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> -Mike
You say you don't see a difference in quality. What about with the fence?
I don't know what fence is on the 1022. I am waiting for my home refinance
to close and am planning on the getting the 1023. I am hoping the fence
will be a significant improvement over what I have now.
Steve P.
"D. J. Dorn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You know, I've heard that before. I had a Griz G1022 series before I
bought
> the G1023SL. I built allot of furniture with that 1022 and never bogged
it
> down using a CMT "General" thin kerf blade. I sold it to someone who
built
> a house and a garage and cut a tremendous amount of 2x material with it -
he
> said it went through it with no trouble.
>
> The only thing I didn't care for was that the fence wasn't as nice as I
> would have liked. Now that I have the 1023SL, I really don't see any
> difference in quality, but definately a difference in power. Not sure I
> needed it, but between that and the fact that dust collection is much
nicer,
> I'm glad I moved up.
>
> Don
>
> "Tim Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mike,
> >
> > If you don't want to spend the $300 or so for a Grizzly or Delta
> > cabinet saw. At least spent the money on a Forrest WWII blade. That
> > should keep you for a while.
> >
> > I will tell you that if you get into this to make furniture for your
> > home, you will end up buying another saw. At least you can keep the
> > blade.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> >> Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
> >> finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z. I'm brand new to the hobby,
and
> >> have never used a table saw in my life; but I would like to eventually
> >> get
> >> into making nice cabinets, bookshelves, end tables, etc., after making
a
> >> birdhouse or two.
> >>
> >> I know I'm just starting, but I do not want the frustration of dealing
> >> with
> >> a lousy machine when I advance to making furniture for my home. I want
> >> the
> >> most bang for my buck (obviously), but I don't want to have to open a
> >> second
> >> mortgage on the house, if you know what I mean, and I think this might
be
> >> the machine I need. But I figured I might as well submit my decission
to
> >> the group for a final evaluation from the pros, just in case.
> >>
> >> And if anyone has a good suggestion for an unabridged woodworkers
> >> reference
> >> text, feel free to throw that in too.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> -Mike
>
>
Mike,
If you don't want to spend the $300 or so for a Grizzly or Delta
cabinet saw. At least spent the money on a Forrest WWII blade. That
should keep you for a while.
I will tell you that if you get into this to make furniture for your
home, you will end up buying another saw. At least you can keep the
blade.
"Mike H." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
> finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z. I'm brand new to the hobby, and
> have never used a table saw in my life; but I would like to eventually get
> into making nice cabinets, bookshelves, end tables, etc., after making a
> birdhouse or two.
>
> I know I'm just starting, but I do not want the frustration of dealing with
> a lousy machine when I advance to making furniture for my home. I want the
> most bang for my buck (obviously), but I don't want to have to open a second
> mortgage on the house, if you know what I mean, and I think this might be
> the machine I need. But I figured I might as well submit my decission to
> the group for a final evaluation from the pros, just in case.
>
> And if anyone has a good suggestion for an unabridged woodworkers reference
> text, feel free to throw that in too.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Mike
"Mike H." <[email protected]> writes:
>Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
>finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z. I'm brand new to the hobby, and
>have never used a table saw in my life; but I would like to eventually get
>into making nice cabinets, bookshelves, end tables, etc., after making a
>birdhouse or two.
If you can afford it, Rockler has the new Delta industrial cabinet saw for
$899. I don't know if you have a Rockler near you or not.
Brian Elfert
Brian Elfert <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Mike H." <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
> >finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z. I'm brand new to the hobby, and
> >have never used a table saw in my life; but I would like to eventually get
> >into making nice cabinets, bookshelves, end tables, etc., after making a
> >birdhouse or two.
>
> If you can afford it, Rockler has the new Delta industrial cabinet saw for
> $899. I don't know if you have a Rockler near you or not.
>
> Brian Elfert
For that price, I'd say go with the Grizzly 1023S. (I did and love it)
However the G0444Z has had very good reviews.
Note of caution, it sucks some juice though. Make sure your shop has
the wiring or be prepared to put it in or have it put in. I believe
(without consulting documentation) that it draws 24 amps at 115v or 12
amps at 230v. This isn't some Craftsman with exaggerated hp ratings.
Also, Grizzly doesn't include a blade. Which is probably better,
anyway. Most stock blades aren't that good. There is plenty of advice
here on blades. I have a Freud combo and love it. I also have a
Forrest Woodworker II and don't know yet if I love it. I bought it
last week and won't get to use it until next spring probably.
Furthermore, be prepared for it when you get it. Unless they are
backordered, you'll probably get it within a few days.
Read a book or two before diving in. Also read safety advice here.
Somewhere out there, there is an accident forum that might be a good
reality check on the potential dangers of a table saw too. Check it
out. As for books, there is no unabridged book AFIK. Get Jim Tolpin's
Table Saw Magic. It is a great book and has some cool jigs. Also,
Kelly Mehler's "Table Saw Book" is pretty good. Don't skip the safety
advice!
Always, wear eye protection, dust mask, and ear protection. I admit, I
often skip the ear protection. I shouldn't and don't advocate it.
However, my saw is one hell of a lot quieter than the two Craftsmans
that I had before it. I'm not trying to knock Craftsman. They have
some great saws. The two I had were not amongst them.
Enjoy,
Eric
"Mike H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
> finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z.
Mike, I don't know the saw, but I'd prefer a left tilt saw. I see that have
the same saw available with left tilt in January (lousy timing for
Christmas).
Bob
Why a left tilt?
"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mike H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
> > finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z.
>
> Mike, I don't know the saw, but I'd prefer a left tilt saw. I see that
have
> the same saw available with left tilt in January (lousy timing for
> Christmas).
>
> Bob
>
>
I have no complaints with my G04444Z.
"Brian Elfert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Mike H." <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I have
> >finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z. I'm brand new to the hobby, and
> >have never used a table saw in my life; but I would like to eventually
get
> >into making nice cabinets, bookshelves, end tables, etc., after making a
> >birdhouse or two.
>
> If you can afford it, Rockler has the new Delta industrial cabinet saw for
> $899. I don't know if you have a Rockler near you or not.
>
> Brian Elfert
Just Kidding! *clears throat*
I have already read all of the posts regarding left-right tilt preferences.
Sure are a lot of posts about that! *smiles sheepishly; face turns red*
"D. J. Dorn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Oh boy, now you've done it.
>
> Don
>
> "Mike H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Why a left tilt?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "Mike H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > Howdy, folks. After lurking for hours upon hours in this group, I
have
> >> > finally decided to buy a Grizzly G0444Z.
> >>
> >> Mike, I don't know the saw, but I'd prefer a left tilt saw. I see that
> > have
> >> the same saw available with left tilt in January (lousy timing for
> >> Christmas).
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>