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Sonny

26/10/2017 9:54 PM

Maloof Chair Joint

I Googled for a joint for my cypress chairs, specifically for the back legs=
/backrest support. I think the Maloof joint may be the best choice.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/37248971464/in/dateposted-public=
/

I made a mock joint, since I had never made this joint before. It's certa=
inly a solid and stable joint. It's fairly simple to make, though it too=
k me about an hour to make this mock up, on some scrap. Subsequent joints =
should go faster. =20

Some pics of the mock up - page left for 6 more pics:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/24107314588/in/dateposted-public=
/

My seat stock is 2" thick and the front and back leg stock is 4X4 stock, bu=
t much of this chair proper will be carved down. Since cypress is a soft =
wood, I need joints with lots of surface area (per gluing).

This project is going slow, as I'm in the shop only an evening/night or two=
per week, but I hope to have a chair pic within a month, now that I've set=
tled on a joint design. Most of the work is with hand tools.... draw knif=
e & scorp (shaving horse), chisels, handsaw...., hence the slow progress.

I still need a wide handled and angled scorp, for some work. I haven't ha=
d time to contact the suggested folks and I haven't been to the blacksmith'=
s shop to discuss what I want/might have them make. I did call the BS sho=
p, to touch base with them.

As to the main issue of this posting, I'm impressed with this Maloof joint.

Sonny


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Iggy

in reply to Sonny on 26/10/2017 9:54 PM

27/10/2017 2:14 PM

replying to Sonny, Iggy wrote:
Yep, wonderful stuff that makes the chair seem to be one single piece of wood.
I'm no furniture builder, but I've repaired my share of broken chairs and
other furniture. The Maloof will never let you down and I've never seen one
fail yet. Mortise and Tenon and Dowelling do nothing but fail and they must be
screwed through or into to last a lifetime or more...ALL GLUES FAIL. If you
aren't screwing your joints, you're building failure.

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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/maloof-chair-joint-811624-.htm

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OFWW

in reply to Sonny on 26/10/2017 9:54 PM

27/10/2017 10:42 PM

On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:14:03 GMT, Iggy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>replying to Sonny, Iggy wrote:
>Yep, wonderful stuff that makes the chair seem to be one single piece of wood.
>I'm no furniture builder, but I've repaired my share of broken chairs and
>other furniture. The Maloof will never let you down and I've never seen one
>fail yet. Mortise and Tenon and Dowelling do nothing but fail and they must be
>screwed through or into to last a lifetime or more...ALL GLUES FAIL. If you
>aren't screwing your joints, you're building failure.

From what I have been studying screws fail at a rate faster then a
mortise tenon joint for numerous reasons. Look at the centuries old
wood work in Asia, and their temple buildings also, with no screws in
them, and no glue.

Just what do you consider a lifetime? I have also read of Joint
failures on that type of joint. A study of wood would show you why, as
I have been finding out.

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OFWW

in reply to OFWW on 27/10/2017 10:42 PM

28/10/2017 1:40 PM

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 14:14:04 GMT, Iggy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>replying to OFWW, Iggy wrote:
>Buildings? Really?...not relevant. Otherwise and back to reality, that's not
>at all my experience (better than reading). I didn't say NO advanced joint, I
>said put screws in the advanced joint. I've never seen nor had a glued and
>screwed advanced joint fail or even loosen...correct Maloof's are
>double-screwed. But, I've seen plenty of only glued or only pegged joints
>(typical of most old furniture) fail all over many single pieces of furniture.

The Maloof joint has not been around that long.

There is no such thing as an "advanced joint". There are joints for
the job. Ever wonder why screws "walk"? Ever wonder why joints split?

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Iggy

in reply to OFWW on 27/10/2017 10:42 PM

28/10/2017 5:44 PM

replying to OFWW, Iggy wrote:
:

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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/maloof-chair-joint-811624-.htm

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Iggy

in reply to OFWW on 27/10/2017 10:42 PM

28/10/2017 2:14 PM

replying to OFWW, Iggy wrote:
Buildings? Really?...not relevant. Otherwise and back to reality, that's not
at all my experience (better than reading). I didn't say NO advanced joint, I
said put screws in the advanced joint. I've never seen nor had a glued and
screwed advanced joint fail or even loosen...correct Maloof's are
double-screwed. But, I've seen plenty of only glued or only pegged joints
(typical of most old furniture) fail all over many single pieces of furniture.

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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/maloof-chair-joint-811624-.htm


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