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"Mike in Mystic"

27/11/2003 3:36 AM

woodworking is making me dyslexic

Ok, so I've been doing this woodworking gig about 4 years - seriously for
maybe 2. I've had a lot of "big iron" in my shop for maybe 1.5 years
(Unisaw, jointer, planer, etc. etc. etc.). So, I am starting to get a bit
more confident in my woodworking abilities. That's not to say I don't think
I suck big time, relatively, but I no longer feel like a total newb in this
joint.

That is, until I do things like I did on my current project.

I'm building a simple lingerie dresser for my son's nursery. I'm still not
too keen on designing stuff myself, so I purchased some plans. The plans
are pretty straightforward, although they include joinery approaches I'm not
used to, but I figure that's how I will learn, so I go along with it as
instructed. Everything's going hunky-dory, if a bit slowly (it's tough to
make progress in 2 hour spurts, but that's the life of a new first-time
parent). That's when I had one of those moments tonight. You know what I
mean, right? An "OH F$$K, WHAT DID I DO" moment.

You see, this dress has frame and panel sides. There are two panels for
each side, one small panel on top and a larger panel on bottom. Well,
that's according to the plans. On MY dresser, there will be a small one on
top of the RIGHT side and a small one on bottom of the LEFT side. DOH!!!!
And there's nothing I can do now, except start over (which I really don't
have time to do, nor the wood/$$ etc. either).

I honestly wonder if woodworking is making me forget what right and left
are.

So, do you think SWMBO will notice? I honestly doubt it, at least not right
away. That doesn't make me feel much better though.

Sigh.

Mike



This topic has 12 replies

JT

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

26/11/2003 11:12 PM

Thu, Nov 27, 2003, 3:36am (EST+5) [email protected]
(Mike=A0in=A0Mystic) boldly comes out of the closet with::
<snip> simple lingerie dresser for my son's nursery. <snip>

Lingerie? Son? Nursery? Do we want an explanation?

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"RWM"

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

26/11/2003 8:06 PM


"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, so I've been doing this woodworking gig about 4 years - seriously for
> maybe 2. I've had a lot of "big iron" in my shop for maybe 1.5 years
> (Unisaw, jointer, planer, etc. etc. etc.). So, I am starting to get a bit
> more confident in my woodworking abilities. That's not to say I don't
think
> I suck big time, relatively, but I no longer feel like a total newb in
this
> joint.
>
> That is, until I do things like I did on my current project.
>
> I'm building a simple lingerie dresser for my son's nursery. I'm still
not
> too keen on designing stuff myself, so I purchased some plans. The plans
> are pretty straightforward, although they include joinery approaches I'm
not
> used to, but I figure that's how I will learn, so I go along with it as
> instructed. Everything's going hunky-dory, if a bit slowly (it's tough to
> make progress in 2 hour spurts, but that's the life of a new first-time
> parent). That's when I had one of those moments tonight. You know what I
> mean, right? An "OH F$$K, WHAT DID I DO" moment.
>
> You see, this dress has frame and panel sides. There are two panels for
> each side, one small panel on top and a larger panel on bottom. Well,
> that's according to the plans. On MY dresser, there will be a small one
on
> top of the RIGHT side and a small one on bottom of the LEFT side. DOH!!!!
> And there's nothing I can do now, except start over (which I really don't
> have time to do, nor the wood/$$ etc. either).
>
> I honestly wonder if woodworking is making me forget what right and left
> are.
>
> So, do you think SWMBO will notice? I honestly doubt it, at least not
right
> away. That doesn't make me feel much better though.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Mike
>

Don't worry about it. Everyone makes the same types of mistakes when
starting out. My first suggestion is to develop a making system that you
use every time. It has to become routine and the thought process will force
you think about right/left side, inside/outside, and top/bottom.

The second suggestion is not to do anything important when you are in a
rush. This was harder for me to learn, but I had the same type of
transition mistakes. I would rush to get things done in my one hour period
when the kids were napping on weekends and would hate the results. Now if I
am tight on time I do shop maintenance. Things like chisel/plane iron
sharpening, or checking the alignment of the equipment.

I was really happy when I realized that those two changes were making a huge
difference in my finished projects.

Bob McBreen

Rr

"RKON"

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

26/11/2003 11:11 PM

Mike:

>I'm building a simple lingerie dresser for my son's nursery.
How about calling it a dresser instead of Lingerie Dresser? More fitting for
a young boy?

> So, do you think SWMBO will notice? I honestly doubt it, at least not
right
> away. That doesn't make me feel much better though.

Just put it in the corner of the room and nobody will notice.

Rich

"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, so I've been doing this woodworking gig about 4 years - seriously for
> maybe 2. I've had a lot of "big iron" in my shop for maybe 1.5 years
> (Unisaw, jointer, planer, etc. etc. etc.). So, I am starting to get a bit
> more confident in my woodworking abilities. That's not to say I don't
think
> I suck big time, relatively, but I no longer feel like a total newb in
this
> joint.
>
> That is, until I do things like I did on my current project.
>
> I'm building a simple lingerie dresser for my son's nursery. I'm still
not
> too keen on designing stuff myself, so I purchased some plans. The plans
> are pretty straightforward, although they include joinery approaches I'm
not
> used to, but I figure that's how I will learn, so I go along with it as
> instructed. Everything's going hunky-dory, if a bit slowly (it's tough to
> make progress in 2 hour spurts, but that's the life of a new first-time
> parent). That's when I had one of those moments tonight. You know what I
> mean, right? An "OH F$$K, WHAT DID I DO" moment.
>
> You see, this dress has frame and panel sides. There are two panels for
> each side, one small panel on top and a larger panel on bottom. Well,
> that's according to the plans. On MY dresser, there will be a small one
on
> top of the RIGHT side and a small one on bottom of the LEFT side. DOH!!!!
> And there's nothing I can do now, except start over (which I really don't
> have time to do, nor the wood/$$ etc. either).
>
> I honestly wonder if woodworking is making me forget what right and left
> are.
>
> So, do you think SWMBO will notice? I honestly doubt it, at least not
right
> away. That doesn't make me feel much better though.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Mike
>
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

27/11/2003 4:12 AM


"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I'm building a simple lingerie dresser for my son's nursery.

Lingerie & Son in the same sentence? Let's just say you are making a
cabinet.


> That's when I had one of those moments tonight. You know what I
> mean, right? An "OH F$$K, WHAT DID I DO" moment.

Who, me? No, never had one Yep, I've heard about them from others though so
I guess it can happen. Nope, not me though. I think a friend had one
though; yeah, it was a friend of mine, not me.

>
> On MY dresser, there will be a small one on
> top of the RIGHT side and a small one on bottom of the LEFT side. DOH!!!!
> And there's nothing I can do now, except start over (which I really don't
> have time to do, nor the wood/$$ etc. either).

Easy to fix. Visually, the small over large is more appealing. Put the
other end up against a wall. Or paint it different bright colors on each
panel and people will assume it should be that way.


>
> I honestly wonder if woodworking is making me forget what right and left
> are.

Nah, you just got it out of the way early. It is not a mater of "if"
someone will make two lefts doors, or identical parts that should be mirror
image, the is just "when" you will do it. I've made things in multiples a
few times, lke four chairs. 4 chairs = 20 legs with different patterns for
the cross members. . I'll cut 21 or 22.

Right now I'm making trivets for Christmas gifts. Each requires 10 cuts (in
increasing depth) making 30 passes on the router table. Of the 22 blanks I
started with 19 made it. Two were lost on the first pass where the patter
is esablished, but I still managed to lose another when I used the wrong
sub-fence.


>
> So, do you think SWMBO will notice?

This is how you find out how much your wife loves you.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

Jj

"Jimbo"

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

27/11/2003 12:34 AM

"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, so I've been doing this woodworking gig about 4 years - seriously for
> maybe 2. I've had a lot of "big iron" in my shop for maybe 1.5 years
> (Unisaw, jointer, planer, etc. etc. etc.). So, I am starting to get a bit
> more confident in my woodworking abilities. That's not to say I don't
think
> I suck big time, relatively, but I no longer feel like a total newb in
this
> joint.
>
> That is, until I do things like I did on my current project.
>
> I'm building a simple lingerie dresser for my son's nursery. I'm still
not
> too keen on designing stuff myself, so I purchased some plans. The plans
> are pretty straightforward, although they include joinery approaches I'm
not
> used to, but I figure that's how I will learn, so I go along with it as
> instructed. Everything's going hunky-dory, if a bit slowly (it's tough to
> make progress in 2 hour spurts, but that's the life of a new first-time
> parent). That's when I had one of those moments tonight. You know what I
> mean, right? An "OH F$$K, WHAT DID I DO" moment.
(snip)
I work on the principle that if there isn't such a moment in any project,
then it was either too easy or I simply missed the mistake :) But
seriously, as time goes on, these moments become fewer and fewer and your
confidence and ability grows. Good luck!

Jimbo

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

27/11/2003 2:25 PM


"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> 4 chairs = 20 legs with different patterns
> for
> > the cross members. . I'll cut 21 or 22.
>
> Ed, we understand dyslexic, but are you making 5-legged chairs?
>
> Nahmie
>

Wow, I was tired when I typed that but I didn't think I was THAT tired.
Ed

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

27/11/2003 5:48 AM


"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snip>
> Nah, you just got it out of the way early. It is not a mater of "if"
> someone will make two lefts doors, or identical parts that should be
mirror
> image, the is just "when" you will do it. I've made things in multiples a
> few times, lke four chairs. 4 chairs = 20 legs with different patterns
for
> the cross members. . I'll cut 21 or 22.

Ed, we understand dyslexic, but are you making 5-legged chairs?

Nahmie

Happy Thanksgiving!

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

27/11/2003 9:28 AM

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> Nah, you just got it out of the way early. It is not a mater of "if"
> someone will make two lefts doors, or identical parts that should be
> mirror image, the is just "when" you will do it. I've made things in

Make finger joints and get the last two pieces reversed so that one of the
sides of the box will only fit if you cut two of them in half and flip them
over, or else skew the entire box and plane, plane, plane. (DAMHIKT...)

--
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EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

28/11/2003 3:09 AM


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> The fifth leg of the
> chair is to hold up your plrflwxzyl.
>

Well, it is rather long and needs support when enlarged!
Ed

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

27/11/2003 4:06 PM

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

>> Ed, we understand dyslexic, but are you making 5-legged chairs?
>
> Wow, I was tired when I typed that but I didn't think I was THAT tired.

Excuses, excuses... You slipped, that's all. You're really an alien, and
you just revealed yourself, buddy. We're onto you! The fifth leg of the
chair is to hold up your plrflwxzyl.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

27/11/2003 4:00 AM

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:36:54 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>I'm building a simple lingerie dresser for my son's nursery.

As a dad, you have a very complex and, er...lively life planned
for your son if you're getting him interested in wearing lingerie
_this_ early.

Happy Turkey Day to all.


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"WORSS"

in reply to "Mike in Mystic" on 27/11/2003 3:36 AM

27/11/2003 12:01 PM

Mike,

Welcome to Marketing 101. It is called a "feature" not a mistake. Who ever
said it had to be symmetrical? Then it would be like everyone's elses.

Bill


"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, so I've been doing this woodworking gig about 4 years - seriously for
> maybe 2. I've had a lot of "big iron" in my shop for maybe 1.5 years
> (Unisaw, jointer, planer, etc. etc. etc.). So, I am starting to get a bit
> more confident in my woodworking abilities. That's not to say I don't
think
> I suck big time, relatively, but I no longer feel like a total newb in
this
> joint.
>
> That is, until I do things like I did on my current project.
>
> I'm building a simple lingerie dresser for my son's nursery. I'm still
not
> too keen on designing stuff myself, so I purchased some plans. The plans
> are pretty straightforward, although they include joinery approaches I'm
not
> used to, but I figure that's how I will learn, so I go along with it as
> instructed. Everything's going hunky-dory, if a bit slowly (it's tough to
> make progress in 2 hour spurts, but that's the life of a new first-time
> parent). That's when I had one of those moments tonight. You know what I
> mean, right? An "OH F$$K, WHAT DID I DO" moment.
>
> You see, this dress has frame and panel sides. There are two panels for
> each side, one small panel on top and a larger panel on bottom. Well,
> that's according to the plans. On MY dresser, there will be a small one
on
> top of the RIGHT side and a small one on bottom of the LEFT side. DOH!!!!
> And there's nothing I can do now, except start over (which I really don't
> have time to do, nor the wood/$$ etc. either).
>
> I honestly wonder if woodworking is making me forget what right and left
> are.
>
> So, do you think SWMBO will notice? I honestly doubt it, at least not
right
> away. That doesn't make me feel much better though.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Mike
>
>
>


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