Sketchup & iPad2 - exciting times!

On Sep 2, 6:09=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
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> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:58:31 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
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> >On Sep 2, 4:04 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 9/2/2011 11:15 AM, Bill wrote:
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> >> > iPad lacks the computing resources to pull it off. Maybe someday wit=
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> >> > "heavily arms" iPads.
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> >> You would think woodworkers, of all people, would comprehend using the
> >> right tool for the job.
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> >> No one who actually uses one, and is therefore familar with the purpos=
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> >> for which an iPad is ideally suited, would consider wanting to use
> >> Sketchup on one to "design".
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> >> An iPad is an ideal _presentation_ tool. I would not use one to design
> >> on anymore than I would use a hammer to carve a cufflink.
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> >> --www.e-woodshop.net
> >> Last update: 4/15/2010
> >> KarlC@ (the obvious)
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> >Okay...("use a hammer to carve a cufflink") in my files/brainpan.
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> Yeah, me, too. =A0(You'd use a mallet, not a hammer, right? =A0;)
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> >I bought my sweet Angela an iPad2 for finishing her Masters Degree and
> >I have had a chance to play with it up at the cottage and SO see the
> >potential to use it as presentation tool. Perfect for that job.
> >Perfect. But inputting on it? Na... you need 2 big monitors and
> >keyboards and stuff...
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> >After that it's a simple transfer.
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> Grok that.
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> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
> one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
> all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Now what's the problem......?

Nice!

Thanx for that information. It makes more sense now. English is my first
language.

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"Han" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Thanks!! I looked it up:
<http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-bai1.htm>

My excuse is that English is my second language, and there is no direct
equivalent in Dutch that I know of.


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Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:oeKdnaMkZO-
[email protected]:
Try "bated breath". :)

On Sep 2, 4:04=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/2/2011 11:15 AM, Bill wrote:
>
>
>
> > iPad lacks the computing resources to pull it off. Maybe someday with
> > "heavily arms" iPads.
>
> You would think woodworkers, of all people, would comprehend using the
> right tool for the job.
>
> No one who actually uses one, and is therefore familar with the purposes
> for which an iPad is ideally suited, would consider wanting to use
> Sketchup on one to "design".
>
> An iPad is an ideal _presentation_ tool. I would not use one to design
> on anymore than I would use a hammer to carve a cufflink.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Okay...("use a hammer to carve a cufflink") in my files/brainpan.

I bought my sweet Angela an iPad2 for finishing her Masters Degree and
I have had a chance to play with it up at the cottage and SO see the
potential to use it as presentation tool. Perfect for that job.
Perfect. But inputting on it? Na... you need 2 big monitors and
keyboards and stuff...

After that it's a simple transfer.

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> P.S: Can you design/draw directly on the iPad, or just view?
>

Like someone said (I think elsewhere, and this is paraphrased), waiting
with baited breath for the port of Sketchup for the iPad. But, given the
"love" between google and apple, that bait may become stinky ...

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Best regards
Han
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Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:oeKdnaMkZO-
[email protected]:

> Try "bated breath". :)

Thanks!! I looked it up:
<http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-bai1.htm>

My excuse is that English is my second language, and there is no direct
equivalent in Dutch that I know of.


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Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:11:33 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 2, 6:09 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:58:31 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> on anymore than I would use a hammer to carve a cufflink.
>>>
>>> >Okay...("use a hammer to carve a cufflink") in my files/brainpan.
>>>
>>> Yeah, me, too.  (You'd use a mallet, not a hammer, right?  ;)
>>>
>>> >I bought my sweet Angela an iPad2 for finishing her Masters Degree
>>> >and I have had a chance to play with it up at the cottage and SO
>>> >see the potential to use it as presentation tool. Perfect for that
>>> >job. Perfect. But inputting on it? Na... you need 2 big monitors
>>> >and keyboards and stuff...
>>>
>>> >After that it's a simple transfer.
>>>
>>> Grok that.
>>
>>Now what's the problem......?
>
> No problem. You forgot what "grok" meant, dincha? OK, Toysie.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok
> To grok is to intimately and completely share the same reality or line
> of thinking with another physical or conceptual entity. Author Robert
> A. Heinlein coined the term in his best-selling 1961 book Stranger in
> a Strange Land. In Heinlein's view, grokking is the intermingling of
> intelligence that necessarily affects both the observer and the
> observed. From the novel:
>
> Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a
> part of the observed—to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in
> group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion,
> philosophy, and science—and it means as little to us (because of our
> Earthling assumptions) as color means to a blind man.
>
That's what I thought, but thanks for putting it out in the open again,
Larry. --
Best regards
Han
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Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote in news:e23058d7-371f-4d80-9aa8-
[email protected]:

> I'm not as dumb as I look, you know...well..how COULD I be?
>

With such a lovely face? Naah, impossible ...

<grinnik>

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Best regards
Han
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:37:15 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>I use an iPad2 daily in my business as a General Contractor, and in
>eWoodShop kitchen, cabinetry and furniture jobs.
>
>Many also know that I have also relied on Google Sketchup for a number
>of years for design and fabrication in the shop; even building a house
>in 2009 where all the construction documents for permitting, bidding and
>build, and much of the design except for the foundation plan, were
>generated using Sketchup.
>
>Now both of those technologies have been leveraged even further.
>
>This is a shot of my iPad2 this afternoon running a Sketchup model of a
>recent shop project:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PDQwKyD9AQ
>
>This is something I've been waiting for ... I'm excited! :)
>
>Just opened up a whole new world for presentations. AAMOF, I've got a
>meeting in the morning on a prospective kitchen job and guess what's
>going with me!

Very cool. Now, if you weren't a blind old heifer, you could use a
smaller menu system so the project could be shown larger. <gd&r>

P.S: Can you design/draw directly on the iPad, or just view?

--
Most powerful is he who has himself in his own power.
-- Seneca

On Sep 2, 6:25=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/2/2011 4:58 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > On Sep 2, 4:04 pm, Swingman<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> An iPad is an ideal _presentation_ tool. I would not use one to design
> >> on anymore than I would use a hammer to carve a cufflink.
> > Okay...("use a hammer to carve a cufflink") in my files/brainpan.
>
> > I bought my sweet Angela an iPad2 for finishing her Masters Degree and
> > I have had a chance to play with it up at the cottage and SO see the
> > potential to use it as presentation tool. Perfect for that job.
> > Perfect. But inputting on it? Na... you need 2 big monitors and
> > keyboards and stuff...
>
> > After that it's a simple transfer.
>
> Bingo!
>

I'm not as dumb as I look, you know...well..how COULD I be?

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:11:33 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sep 2, 6:09 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:58:31 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> on anymore than I would use a hammer to carve a cufflink.
>>
>> >Okay...("use a hammer to carve a cufflink") in my files/brainpan.
>>
>> Yeah, me, too.  (You'd use a mallet, not a hammer, right?  ;)
>>
>> >I bought my sweet Angela an iPad2 for finishing her Masters Degree and
>> >I have had a chance to play with it up at the cottage and SO see the
>> >potential to use it as presentation tool. Perfect for that job.
>> >Perfect. But inputting on it? Na... you need 2 big monitors and
>> >keyboards and stuff...
>>
>> >After that it's a simple transfer.
>>
>> Grok that.
>
>Now what's the problem......?

No problem. You forgot what "grok" meant, dincha? OK, Toysie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok
To grok is to intimately and completely share the same reality or line
of thinking with another physical or conceptual entity. Author Robert
A. Heinlein coined the term in his best-selling 1961 book Stranger in
a Strange Land. In Heinlein's view, grokking is the intermingling of
intelligence that necessarily affects both the observer and the
observed. From the novel:

Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a
part of the observed—to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in
group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion,
philosophy, and science—and it means as little to us (because of our
Earthling assumptions) as color means to a blind man.

--
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

On 9/2/2011 7:58 AM, Han wrote:
> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> P.S: Can you design/draw directly on the iPad, or just view?
>>
>
> Like someone said (I think elsewhere, and this is paraphrased), waiting
> with baited breath for the port of Sketchup for the iPad. But, given the
> "love" between google and apple, that bait may become stinky ...
>

iPad lacks the computing resources to pull it off. Maybe someday with
"heavily arms" iPads.

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:58:31 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sep 2, 4:04 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 9/2/2011 11:15 AM, Bill wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > iPad lacks the computing resources to pull it off. Maybe someday with
>> > "heavily arms" iPads.
>>
>> You would think woodworkers, of all people, would comprehend using the
>> right tool for the job.
>>
>> No one who actually uses one, and is therefore familar with the purposes
>> for which an iPad is ideally suited, would consider wanting to use
>> Sketchup on one to "design".
>>
>> An iPad is an ideal _presentation_ tool. I would not use one to design
>> on anymore than I would use a hammer to carve a cufflink.
>>
>> --www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 4/15/2010
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
>Okay...("use a hammer to carve a cufflink") in my files/brainpan.

Yeah, me, too. (You'd use a mallet, not a hammer, right? ;)


>I bought my sweet Angela an iPad2 for finishing her Masters Degree and
>I have had a chance to play with it up at the cottage and SO see the
>potential to use it as presentation tool. Perfect for that job.
>Perfect. But inputting on it? Na... you need 2 big monitors and
>keyboards and stuff...
>
>After that it's a simple transfer.

Grok that.

--
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:11:52 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 9/2/2011 6:58 AM, Han wrote:
>> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> P.S: Can you design/draw directly on the iPad, or just view?
>>>
>>
>> Like someone said (I think elsewhere, and this is paraphrased), waiting
>> with baited breath for the port of Sketchup for the iPad. But, given the
>> "love" between google and apple, that bait may become stinky ...
>
>I don't have many pet peeves when it comes to cliches, but that's one of
>them.
>
>Try "bated breath". :)

Hey, give the furriner a break. He couldn't have used the "stinky"
part without his misspelliung.


>And no, C-Less, it is just a 3D model viewer which allows you pan, zoom,
>and orbit around your model. Three actions that were heretofore
>impossible to do outside SU on any device except a computer capable of
>running the program itself.

Cool enough.


>That's indeed progress ... besides, I can't imagine anyone wanting to
>design any custom piece of cabinetry or furniture on anything less than
>a computer capable of running the software, and with a mouse/pointing
>device attached.

There's that. I was thinking of quick designs to grab new contracts
while in the field. (I process smaller potatoes than your org does,
and I've sold things from a sketch on a 3x5" paper notepad.)

--
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

On 9/2/2011 6:58 AM, Han wrote:
> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> P.S: Can you design/draw directly on the iPad, or just view?
>>
>
> Like someone said (I think elsewhere, and this is paraphrased), waiting
> with baited breath for the port of Sketchup for the iPad. But, given the
> "love" between google and apple, that bait may become stinky ...

I don't have many pet peeves when it comes to cliches, but that's one of
them.

Try "bated breath". :)

And no, C-Less, it is just a 3D model viewer which allows you pan, zoom,
and orbit around your model. Three actions that were heretofore
impossible to do outside SU on any device except a computer capable of
running the program itself.

That's indeed progress ... besides, I can't imagine anyone wanting to
design any custom piece of cabinetry or furniture on anything less than
a computer capable of running the software, and with a mouse/pointing
device attached.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On 9/2/2011 11:15 AM, Bill wrote:

>
> iPad lacks the computing resources to pull it off. Maybe someday with
> "heavily arms" iPads.

You would think woodworkers, of all people, would comprehend using the
right tool for the job.

No one who actually uses one, and is therefore familar with the purposes
for which an iPad is ideally suited, would consider wanting to use
Sketchup on one to "design".

An iPad is an ideal _presentation_ tool. I would not use one to design
on anymore than I would use a hammer to carve a cufflink.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On 9/2/2011 4:58 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Sep 2, 4:04 pm, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:

>> An iPad is an ideal _presentation_ tool. I would not use one to design
>> on anymore than I would use a hammer to carve a cufflink.

> Okay...("use a hammer to carve a cufflink") in my files/brainpan.
>
> I bought my sweet Angela an iPad2 for finishing her Masters Degree and
> I have had a chance to play with it up at the cottage and SO see the
> potential to use it as presentation tool. Perfect for that job.
> Perfect. But inputting on it? Na... you need 2 big monitors and
> keyboards and stuff...
>
> After that it's a simple transfer.


Bingo!

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www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)