I have a Grizzly 1023S table saw with motor cover and OE blade insert. I
recently got the Grizzly 1029Z 2HP dust collector, the one with the .3
micron bag. I'm using a 10 ft. flex hose for now -moving it from tool to
tool. I does a great job on the jointer, planer, and band saw, but i'm a
little disappointed with the collection on the tablesaw. There is so much
sawdust thrown on top of the table and on me! I'm guessing this will get
worse with a zero clearance insert. There are probably plenty of folks out
there with this exact combo. Any tips on ways to improve collection, other
than an overhead guard?
Thanks.
Bob G. said:
>Try experimenting with different blade hights..and feed rates...
>
>The lower the blade the less dust flys right at you... the slower the
>feed rate the less flys at you...
>
>After playing around in my shop I have settled on a high blade and a
>comfortable feed rate and the HELL with the sawqdust..
Another thing I haven't seen mentioned is that if your fence is not
perfectly parallel to the blade, or *very* slightly toed out .010" or
so, the rear of the blade will send far more shavings at you than if
adjusted properly.
FWIW,
Greg G.
I just posted in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking.
Bob
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4mxfd.12940$5O4.10788@trnddc07...
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > I'll be glad to post some pics, if anyone is interested.
>
> I'm interested. ;-)
>
> -- Mark
>
>
I have the exact same setup and was wondering the same thing. Let us know if
you find a good solution.
"Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a Grizzly 1023S table saw with motor cover and OE blade insert. I
> recently got the Grizzly 1029Z 2HP dust collector, the one with the .3
> micron bag. I'm using a 10 ft. flex hose for now -moving it from tool to
> tool. I does a great job on the jointer, planer, and band saw, but i'm a
> little disappointed with the collection on the tablesaw. There is so much
> sawdust thrown on top of the table and on me! I'm guessing this will get
> worse with a zero clearance insert. There are probably plenty of folks
> out
> there with this exact combo. Any tips on ways to improve collection,
> other
> than an overhead guard?
> Thanks.
>
>
I, for one, would like to see the results of your trials and
tribulations. Dust collection is an important health issue that need to
be resolved for woodworkers.
Len
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Bob wrote:
> "Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>little disappointed with the collection on the tablesaw. There is so much
>>sawdust thrown on top of the table and on me! I'm guessing this will get
>>worse with a zero clearance insert.
>
>
> You guessed right. It will get worse - much worse.
>
>
>>There are probably plenty of folks out
>>there with this exact combo. Any tips on ways to improve collection,
>
> other
>
>>than an overhead guard?
>
>
> I've resolved the problem to my satisfaction, but you have to really hate
> sawdust to like my set up. I've been studying the topic and prototyping for
> months. My dust collection is so good now that I don't even use the
> overhead air filter in my shop. I live in Houston with some warm humid
> weather. That combination with sawdust all over me made woodworking
> intolerable. I hated it.
>
> I'll be glad to post some pics, if anyone is interested. I'm sure a lot of
> folks will throw rocks, but its an individual value thing.
>
> Bob
>
>
[email protected] said:
>On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:08:02 -0400, Greg G. wrote:
>
>>Bob G. said:
>>
>>>Try experimenting with different blade hights..and feed rates...
>>>
>>>The lower the blade the less dust flys right at you... the slower the
>>>feed rate the less flys at you...
>>>
>>>After playing around in my shop I have settled on a high blade and a
>>>comfortable feed rate and the HELL with the sawqdust..
>>
>>Another thing I haven't seen mentioned is that if your fence is not
>>perfectly parallel to the blade, or *very* slightly toed out .010" or
>>so, the rear of the blade will send far more shavings at you than if
>>adjusted properly.
>>
>>FWIW,
>>
>>Greg G.
>
>
>
>and if you're not careful it'll send more than shavings...
Yepper!
Greg G.
"Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> little disappointed with the collection on the tablesaw. There is so much
> sawdust thrown on top of the table and on me! I'm guessing this will get
> worse with a zero clearance insert.
You guessed right. It will get worse - much worse.
> There are probably plenty of folks out
> there with this exact combo. Any tips on ways to improve collection,
other
> than an overhead guard?
I've resolved the problem to my satisfaction, but you have to really hate
sawdust to like my set up. I've been studying the topic and prototyping for
months. My dust collection is so good now that I don't even use the
overhead air filter in my shop. I live in Houston with some warm humid
weather. That combination with sawdust all over me made woodworking
intolerable. I hated it.
I'll be glad to post some pics, if anyone is interested. I'm sure a lot of
folks will throw rocks, but its an individual value thing.
Bob
"Leonard Lopez" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I, for one, would like to see the results of your trials and
> tribulations. Dust collection is an important health issue that need to
> be resolved for woodworkers.
I will post some pictures and explanation tomorrow. I'll announce the
availability here.
Best regards,
Bob
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:11:22 GMT, "Newshound" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have a Grizzly 1023S table saw with motor cover and OE blade insert. I
>recently got the Grizzly 1029Z 2HP dust collector, the one with the .3
>micron bag. I'm using a 10 ft. flex hose for now -moving it from tool to
>tool. I does a great job on the jointer, planer, and band saw, but i'm a
>little disappointed with the collection on the tablesaw. There is so much
>sawdust thrown on top of the table and on me! I'm guessing this will get
>worse with a zero clearance insert. There are probably plenty of folks out
>there with this exact combo. Any tips on ways to improve collection, other
>than an overhead guard?
>Thanks.
>
==================
Try experimenting with different blade hights..and feed rates...
The lower the blade the less dust flys right at you... the slower the
feed rate the less flys at you...
After playing around in my shop I have settled on a high blade and a
comfortable feed rate and the HELL with the sawqdust..
Bob Griffiths
I do use an overhead guard with dust collection capabilities
.
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:36:57 GMT, "Bob" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> little disappointed with the collection on the tablesaw. There is so much
>> sawdust thrown on top of the table and on me! I'm guessing this will get
>> worse with a zero clearance insert.
>
>You guessed right. It will get worse - much worse.
>
>> There are probably plenty of folks out
>> there with this exact combo. Any tips on ways to improve collection,
>other
>> than an overhead guard?
>
>I've resolved the problem to my satisfaction, but you have to really hate
>sawdust to like my set up. I've been studying the topic and prototyping for
>months. My dust collection is so good now that I don't even use the
>overhead air filter in my shop. I live in Houston with some warm humid
>weather. That combination with sawdust all over me made woodworking
>intolerable. I hated it.
>
>I'll be glad to post some pics, if anyone is interested. I'm sure a lot of
>folks will throw rocks, but its an individual value thing.
>
>Bob
>
of course. that's what we're here for, right?
bring 'em on...
Have similar combo as you (with a 2 HP Shop Fox DC vice Grizzly) and have
the same problem. However, I am not sure that any other brand of cabinet
saw could eliminate dust on the saw top especially when using a
zero-clearance insert. Specifically, the design of the others are very much
the same and just how might they better catch dust? While they might better
manage dust that accumulates in the cabinet base, it's not clear how they
could better handle dust created above the table top. Perhaps a Jet or
Delta owner could respond to verify this?
"Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a Grizzly 1023S table saw with motor cover and OE blade insert. I
> recently got the Grizzly 1029Z 2HP dust collector, the one with the .3
> micron bag. I'm using a 10 ft. flex hose for now -moving it from tool to
> tool. I does a great job on the jointer, planer, and band saw, but i'm a
> little disappointed with the collection on the tablesaw. There is so much
> sawdust thrown on top of the table and on me! I'm guessing this will get
> worse with a zero clearance insert. There are probably plenty of folks
out
> there with this exact combo. Any tips on ways to improve collection,
other
> than an overhead guard?
> Thanks.
>
>
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:00:36 -0400, "Brikp" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have the exact same setup and was wondering the same thing. Let us know if
>you find a good solution.
>
>"Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>I have a Grizzly 1023S table saw with motor cover and OE blade insert. I
>> recently got the Grizzly 1029Z 2HP dust collector, the one with the .3
>> micron bag. I'm using a 10 ft. flex hose for now -moving it from tool to
>> tool. I does a great job on the jointer, planer, and band saw, but i'm a
>> little disappointed with the collection on the tablesaw. There is so much
>> sawdust thrown on top of the table and on me! I'm guessing this will get
>> worse with a zero clearance insert. There are probably plenty of folks
>> out
>> there with this exact combo. Any tips on ways to improve collection,
>> other
>> than an overhead guard?
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>
try a slower feed rate.
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:11:22 GMT, "Newshound" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>
>Any tips on ways to improve collection,
Ahhh - yes!
>other than an overhead guard?
Oh.
No...
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:08:02 -0400, Greg G. wrote:
>Bob G. said:
>
>>Try experimenting with different blade hights..and feed rates...
>>
>>The lower the blade the less dust flys right at you... the slower the
>>feed rate the less flys at you...
>>
>>After playing around in my shop I have settled on a high blade and a
>>comfortable feed rate and the HELL with the sawqdust..
>
>Another thing I haven't seen mentioned is that if your fence is not
>perfectly parallel to the blade, or *very* slightly toed out .010" or
>so, the rear of the blade will send far more shavings at you than if
>adjusted properly.
>
>FWIW,
>
>Greg G.
and if you're not careful it'll send more than shavings...
I have the Biesemeyer overhead guard with dust collection.
With a HUGE Craftsman shop vac screaming at the top of it's
lungs, it does in fact "help" whith the dust being thrown
back in your face. It does NOT get it all, and I can't seem
to find anybody who can say it will.
I to the point of believing that you are gonna get some
dust on you if you run a table saw. I now wear a mask almost
every time the saw comes on...
The overhead guard is far better than none at all...
TEF wrote:
> Have similar combo as you (with a 2 HP Shop Fox DC vice Grizzly) and have
> the same problem. However, I am not sure that any other brand of cabinet
> saw could eliminate dust on the saw top especially when using a
> zero-clearance insert. Specifically, the design of the others are very much
> the same and just how might they better catch dust? While they might better
> manage dust that accumulates in the cabinet base, it's not clear how they
> could better handle dust created above the table top. Perhaps a Jet or
> Delta owner could respond to verify this?
>
>
> "Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I have a Grizzly 1023S table saw with motor cover and OE blade insert. I
>>recently got the Grizzly 1029Z 2HP dust collector, the one with the .3
>>micron bag. I'm using a 10 ft. flex hose for now -moving it from tool to
>>tool. I does a great job on the jointer, planer, and band saw, but i'm a
>>little disappointed with the collection on the tablesaw. There is so much
>>sawdust thrown on top of the table and on me! I'm guessing this will get
>>worse with a zero clearance insert. There are probably plenty of folks
>
> out
>
>>there with this exact combo. Any tips on ways to improve collection,
>
> other
>
>>than an overhead guard?
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>
>
>
"Leonard Lopez" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I, for one, would like to see the results of your trials and
> tribulations. Dust collection is an important health issue that need to
> be resolved for woodworkers.
posted in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking.
Bob Davis
Houston, Texas