jj

jo4hn

22/07/2005 12:50 AM

I'm baaaaaaaaaaack...

Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
but it may well save your life.

Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.
mahalo,
jo4hn


This topic has 32 replies

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"tom"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

21/07/2005 6:30 PM

jo4hn wrote: Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had
prostate cancer
surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah.
Now
then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty
shit
but it may well save your life.
Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.

Glad the prognosis is good. I'm looking forward to my next PSA.
Not. Tom

JJ

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

24/07/2005 2:26 PM

Fri, Jul 22, 2005, 12:50am (EDT+4) [email protected] (jo4hn) informs
us:
<snip>. Had prostate cancer surgery last Monday. <snip>

Ran acroos this by accident - checking on a previous thread of my
own. Glad to hear you survived. Join the club. You can send your dues
to me, all twenties will do fine.

Mine was colon cancer, 2000. I take it you'll have chemo , you'll
"love" that. LOL Could be worse. In case you never saw it, or want to
reread it. here's my story. Just stay optimistic.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/CANCER/

Later



JOAT
Blessed are the flexible; for they shall never be bent out of shape.
- Unknown

jj

jo4hn

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 2:36 PM

AAvK wrote:
> Good to hear it is all good... "I think"... was the entire prostate removed?
>
yes.

Gs

Groggy

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

24/07/2005 6:08 AM

Glad to see you up and about John,

stay well,

Groggy

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:50:29 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:

>Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
>surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
>then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
>doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
>but it may well save your life.
>
>Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

TB

Tom Banes

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

21/07/2005 8:51 PM

On 21 Jul 2005 18:30:23 -0700, "tom" <[email protected]> wrote:

>jo4hn wrote: Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had
>prostate cancer
>surgery last Monday.

Haven't done the surgery bit, but got the biopsy job. First time in
maaaany years I had to wear a diaper for a day.

Soon you'll stop peeing blood

Glad it was clear.

Regards.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 4:07 PM


"jo4hn" wrote in message
> Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
> surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
> then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
> doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
> but it may well save your life.
>
> Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.

Best of luck to you ... looks like you caught it in time. On a sad note,
just put SWMBO on a flight to AR this afternoon to see her 56 year old
brother who was just diagnosed a week ago with _terminal_ cancer of the
prostate ... he never took the time to get a checkup, or PSA, and now it
appears too damn late. It's spread and right now they're trying to save one
kidney so they can attempt to treat. Two months, to two years on the outside
... too young!

Take care of yourself ...

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 7/12/05

EC

Ed Clarke

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 3:13 AM

On 2005-07-22, tom <[email protected]> wrote:

All you guys are going about this in the wrong way. I quite look
forward to my next PSA test. My doctor always gives me a big smile
when she lubes up that finger...

Shop around, there are plenty of good looking woman doctors out there.

--
I can find no modern furniture that is as well designed and emotionally
satisfying as that made by the Arts and Crafts movement in the early years
of the last century.

JT

"John \"The Toymaker\" Gilham"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

21/07/2005 9:55 PM

Jo4hn, glad to hear you looking good.

Now about that exam...is that the one where the doctor puts the rubber glove
and checks your tonsils from the other ends...or is it the one where he says
"this may be a little uncomfortable" and he lies......and grins...I hate the
grinning!!!!

Cheers
John

es" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 21 Jul 2005 18:30:23 -0700, "tom" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>jo4hn wrote: Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had
>>prostate cancer
>>surgery last Monday.
>
> Haven't done the surgery bit, but got the biopsy job. First time in
> maaaany years I had to wear a diaper for a day.
>
> Soon you'll stop peeing blood
>
> Glad it was clear.
>
> Regards.
>



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in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

24/07/2005 9:18 PM

Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

> "jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
>> surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
>> then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
>> doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
>> but it may well save your life.
>>
>> Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.
>> mahalo,
>> jo4hn

> Good for you. Rubber gloves and Vaseline can be a life saver. Hope you are
> up back in the shop soon.

I have it secondhand from an MD that a good proxy measure for a quality
primary care doc is how carefully and vigorously he or she does the prostate
exam. Seems that they aren't overly fond of the exam either, and that the
MDs who take their time doing it are displaying an attention to what
needs to be done that carries over to other areas of the doctoring
business.

--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=
Mike Lacy, Ft Collins CO 80523
Clean out the 'junk' to email me.

JJ

in reply to [email protected] on 24/07/2005 9:18 PM

25/07/2005 1:39 AM

Sun, Jul 24, 2005, 9:18pm (EDT-3) [email protected]
<snip> MDs who take their time doing it are displaying an attention to
what needs to be done <snip>

But, how do you tell if the MD is paying attention to detail, or
being affectionate? I guess how many hands are on your shoulders
would be a good hint. LMAO



JOAT
Blessed are the flexible; for they shall never be bent out of shape.
- Unknown

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 3:36 AM

Ed Clarke wrote:
> On 2005-07-22, tom <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> All you guys are going about this in the wrong way. I quite look
> forward to my next PSA test. My doctor always gives me a big smile
> when she lubes up that finger...
>
> Shop around, there are plenty of good looking woman doctors out there.



Good to know. Let me give you a hint: there should never be more than one hand
on your shoulder when they do the exam. Trust me on this....




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

21/07/2005 11:02 PM


Good to hear it is all good... "I think"... was the entire prostate removed?

--
Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 1:50 AM

jo4hn wrote:
> Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
> surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
> then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
> doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
> but it may well save your life.



Not to be crude but when you get your rocks off now is it.... poof? Enquiring
minds....



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]





MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

25/07/2005 11:00 AM

jo4hn wrote:
> Read your story. Glad you survived. As my cousin once observed: "Stay
> out of them hospitals. The doctors are all in cahoots with the
> undertakers."



I worked at a hospital back in the 70's that had ashtrays decorated with the
local funeral home's information in the cafeteria and snack bar. Quite handy, I
would think....



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]

RL

"Robert L. Haar"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 4:23 PM

On 2005/7/21 11:13 PM, "Ed Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2005-07-22, tom <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> All you guys are going about this in the wrong way. I quite look
> forward to my next PSA test. My doctor always gives me a big smile
> when she lubes up that finger...

PSA is a blood test. I don't want to imagine the method of drawing blood
that requires a lubed finger.

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

24/07/2005 11:15 PM

jo4hn wrote:

> Read your story. Glad you survived. As my cousin once observed: "Stay
> out of them hospitals. The doctors are all in cahoots with the
> undertakers."


Remember the old Redd Fox joke about the two brothers.

One became an obstetrician, the other an under taker.

That way, they had them coming and going.

Lew

jj

jo4hn

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

24/07/2005 9:01 PM

J T wrote:

> Fri, Jul 22, 2005, 12:50am (EDT+4) [email protected] (jo4hn) informs
> us:
> <snip>. Had prostate cancer surgery last Monday. <snip>
>
> Ran acroos this by accident - checking on a previous thread of my
> own. Glad to hear you survived. Join the club. You can send your dues
> to me, all twenties will do fine.
>
> Mine was colon cancer, 2000. I take it you'll have chemo , you'll
> "love" that. LOL Could be worse. In case you never saw it, or want to
> reread it. here's my story. Just stay optimistic.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/CANCER/
>
> Later
>
Thanks for the note JOAT. Fortunately for me I had been getting in for
annual checkups (Kaiser is pretty insistent) and they caught it early.
No chemo or radiation. Hallelujah again.

Read your story. Glad you survived. As my cousin once observed: "Stay
out of them hospitals. The doctors are all in cahoots with the
undertakers."
mahalo,
jo4hn

JJ

in reply to jo4hn on 24/07/2005 9:01 PM

25/07/2005 1:29 AM

Sun, Jul 24, 2005, 9:01pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (jo4hn) who doth
sayeth:
<snip>=A0No chemo or radiation. Hallelujah again. <snip>

Well, you got me beat there. But, do you have a female doctor
giving you the finger? I do. LOL



JOAT
Blessed are the flexible; for they shall never be bent out of shape.
- Unknown

jj

jo4hn

in reply to jo4hn on 24/07/2005 9:01 PM

25/07/2005 6:30 PM

J T wrote:
> Sun, Jul 24, 2005, 9:01pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (jo4hn) who doth
> sayeth:
> <snip> No chemo or radiation. Hallelujah again. <snip>
>
> Well, you got me beat there. But, do you have a female doctor
> giving you the finger? I do. LOL
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Blessed are the flexible; for they shall never be bent out of shape.
> - Unknown
>
Lemme tell ya about today. Went to the doc for the 1 week check and to
get some or all of the hardware pulled out. The doc pulled the staples
and put a new paper dressing on. Then the female nurse comes in, fills
your bladder with water, pulls the catheter, and you pee. There is
something about somebody coming in to fix your dick that proves that
there is no dignity when hospitals are involved. Actually, it was all
very professionally done and they didn't hurt me much. Glad to be home.
mahalo,
jo4hn

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 1:53 AM


"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
> surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
> then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
> doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
> but it may well save your life.
>
> Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

Good for you. Rubber gloves and Vaseline can be a life saver. Hope you are
up back in the shop soon.

PO

"Paul O."

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 2:13 AM


"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
> surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
> then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
> doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
> but it may well save your life.
>
> Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

Good to hear your clear. Congrats. Got an appointment with a Urologist
myself pretty soon, I'm sure there is a biopsy in my future, but, had em
before.

Paul O.
[email protected]

Sf

"Schroeder"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 9:42 AM

Glad your doing ok John!...its sucks, but waaay better than the other
options!

Schroeder

"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
> surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
> then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
> doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
> but it may well save your life.
>
> Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

jj

jo4hn

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

23/07/2005 2:32 AM

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
> Ed Clarke wrote:
>
>>On 2005-07-22, tom <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>All you guys are going about this in the wrong way. I quite look
>>forward to my next PSA test. My doctor always gives me a big smile
>>when she lubes up that finger...
>>
>>Shop around, there are plenty of good looking woman doctors out there.
>
>
>
>
> Good to know. Let me give you a hint: there should never be more than one hand
> on your shoulder when they do the exam. Trust me on this....
>
This is a case of a day short and a dollar late...
j4

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 8:11 AM


> yes.


OH MEIN GARSHK!!! (der krauten popey) Are you going to get filled with a prosthesis???

--
Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

23/07/2005 12:37 AM


"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> AAvK wrote:
>> Good to hear it is all good... "I think"... was the entire prostate
>> removed?
>>
> yes.

Glad to hear they got it in time, John. I'm due for my "finger wave" &
physical next mo., also the bloodwork & PSA. Had the prostate biopsy a
couple years back, all negative(so far).

--
Nahmie
The greatest headaches are those we cause ourselves.

UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 6:29 PM

on 7/22/2005 1:11 PM Bob G. said the following:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:50:29 GMT, jo4hn <jo4hn@
> ============
> Glad to hear you are up and about.... BUT I am a retired Pharmacist
> and there was a big deal about how inaccurate the PSA test really is
> not that long ago,..... Think I better do a little research since my
> results have always been very good.... should have done it long ago
> but procrastination was always my strong point.

Way too many factors involved in the PSA test debate to cover in one
on-topic e-mail let alone an off-topic one<g>.

Suffice it to say that in my case it (PSA screening) likely saved my
life and others here probably can say the same.

For more than you ever wanted to know about PCa, visit this site.

http://www.phoenix5.org/

A great place to get yourself educated about this very common and highly
curable disease.

It was put together by a gentleman who died a year or two ago. He was
diagnosed too late and so decided to make the best use of his remaining
time. I, and many others, think he did.

Additional education may be picked up at alt.support.cancer.prostate


BG

Bob G.

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 2:11 PM

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:50:29 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:

>Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
>surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
>then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
>doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
>but it may well save your life.
>
>Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

============
Glad to hear you are up and about.... BUT I am a retired Pharmacist
and there was a big deal about how inaccurate the PSA test really is
not that long ago,..... Think I better do a little research since my
results have always been very good.... should have done it long ago
but procrastination was always my strong point.

Bob G

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 7:06 PM

Bob G. wrote:

>
>
> ============
> Glad to hear you are up and about.... BUT I am a retired Pharmacist
> and there was a big deal about how inaccurate the PSA test really is
> not that long ago,.....

That is the reason the exact number is not that important but the change
from year to year is of much greater concern.

Lew

BM

"Buddy Matlosz"

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 10:22 PM


"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ed Clarke wrote:
> > On 2005-07-22, tom <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > All you guys are going about this in the wrong way. I quite look
> > forward to my next PSA test. My doctor always gives me a big smile
> > when she lubes up that finger...
> >
> > Shop around, there are plenty of good looking woman doctors out there.
>
>
>
> Good to know. Let me give you a hint: there should never be more than
one hand
> on your shoulder when they do the exam. Trust me on this....
>

Reminds me of a hilarious sketch I saw on Blue Collar Comedy not long ago.
Jeff Foxworthy was in the doctor's office for an exam, bent over the table
in his little gown. The doc was making small talk, then disappeared behind
JF, causing him to jump slightly. Then the doc kept getting interrupted by a
series of phone calls, always followed by another disappearance and another
jump. Then a nurse walks through the door, and with a shocked look on her
face asks, "Who are you?" Foxworthy replies, "I'm Jeff, I'm here for a
prostate exam". Nurse says, "No, no - who are YOU?", pointing to the
"doctor" - who looks around nervously, then bolts offstage.

B.

UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 4:05 AM

jo4hn wrote:
> Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
> surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
> then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
> doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
> but it may well save your life.
>
> Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

Amen! Take note guys. This disease is treatable and beatable IF you
catch it in time.

I know from experience.

RRP 03/16/2000 and undetectable PSA since then!

md

mac davis

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 10:19 AM

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:50:29 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:

>Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
>surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
>then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
>doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
>but it may well save your life.
>
>Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

Hope all goes well, John.. (no pun intended)

At least now, you'll know whether you're coming or going??

BTW, for those of us suffering through Kaiser for their health care... if you
look at the print out that they give you for blood work, it has the PSA on it...
For those with Aflec (sp) they pay you like $20 to have a PSA test.. so you know
it is important...

I might add that the younger you are when you start getting PSA tests, the
better off you are... they use your results as a "base line" to make sure that
you're numbers aren't changing radically.. and could save you life...


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

BS

Bob Schmall

in reply to jo4hn on 22/07/2005 12:50 AM

22/07/2005 12:58 PM

jo4hn wrote:
> Been gone for a few days (as if many had noticed). Had prostate cancer
> surgery last Monday. Pathology study shows I'm clear. Hallelujah. Now
> then for the message: all you guys get your skanky butts down to the
> doctor at least once a year for the PSA and the finger wave. Nasty shit
> but it may well save your life.
>
> Me, I feel like I'm 100 years old but I'll survive this one too.

Funny, you don't look any better.
Welcome home anyway.

Bob


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