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23/08/2005 7:34 AM

need help finding manufacturer

I am trying to find out who manufactured the Penncraft 3807
Breakerbar. If you know or can point me in the right direction, I'd
appreciate it.


This topic has 18 replies

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"woodworker88"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

23/08/2005 11:38 AM

I think that Penncraft is the actual company, but I googled it and
there is very little info indeed. I did find one site selling a used
one of these breakerbars, but no other information. I did some
sleuthing and the company may be called Nationwide-Penncraft, Inc. but
when I searched on this name I found nothing. Hope this helps, although
I have a feeling it won't.

ww

"woodworker88"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

23/08/2005 11:39 AM

This seems like a metalworking tool, so you might try crossposting to
rec.crafts.metalworking

DD

David

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

23/08/2005 1:37 PM

woodworker88 wrote:

> This seems like a metalworking tool, so you might try crossposting to
> rec.crafts.metalworking
>
Please don't suggest crossposting. The OP can POST in the other group,
rather than CROSS post.

Dave

DB

Duane Bozarth

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 9:04 AM

Leon wrote:
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I am trying to find out who manufactured the Penncraft 3807
> > Breakerbar. If you know or can point me in the right direction, I'd
> > appreciate it.
> >
> JC Penny sold the tool in the early 70's

That would be JC Penney :)

/FOGIE_STORY_WARNING
SWMBO worked for Penney's while finished school. W/ her employee
discount and typical poor married student budget, <everything> possible
came from Penney's. As someone else noted, many of those tools I bought
then are still functional including, amazingly enough, a 3/8" drill and
7" circular saw purchased in '62 or '63. Mr Penney was still alive and
quite a neat old man albeit w/ some interesting quirks--no credit and
paid all employees were paid in cash w/ $2 bills and change until he
died.

\END_FOGIE_STORY

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 9:46 AM

"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> > What's wrong with crossposting? As long as it's only to 2 or 3 groups,
> > it's
> > acceptable netiquette. The nice thing for people who might read both
> > groups
> > is that an intelligent newsreader will only show the article one time.
>
> The problem with cross posting is that it almost always involves totally
off
> subject groups that respond and eventually you end up with a group and its
> horde of trolls posting responses that end up here. Take the pet fiasco
> that started because a wood worker here did not take enough precautions to
> keep polyurethane glue away from her dog. That cross post to the pets
> groups resulted in profanity in this group that lasted for months.

Well, there's crossposting, and then there's stupidity. I choose not to
limit people based on the lowest common denominator.

todd

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 2:16 PM


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> horde of trolls posting responses that end up here. Take the pet fiasco
>> that started because a wood worker here did not take enough precautions
>> to
>> keep polyurethane glue away from her dog.
>
> In defence of the woman who lost her dog to that unfortunate accident, I
> don't believe (not positive) that she cross-posted her message to any
> group
> except for rec.woodworking. It was some other person trolling around who
> started that fiasco.


IIRC it was in deed cross posted by her.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

23/08/2005 10:59 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am trying to find out who manufactured the Penncraft 3807
> Breakerbar. If you know or can point me in the right direction, I'd
> appreciate it.
>
JC Penny sold the tool in the early 70's

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

23/08/2005 10:58 PM


"woodworker88" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I think that Penncraft is the actual company, but I googled it and
> there is very little info indeed. I did find one site selling a used
> one of these breakerbars, but no other information. I did some
> sleuthing and the company may be called Nationwide-Penncraft, Inc. but
> when I searched on this name I found nothing. Hope this helps, although
> I have a feeling it won't.

Penncraft was the name of mechanics hand tools sold by JC penney in the
early 70's. I still have a set of Penncraft tools that I bought when I was
kid. Pretty good tools. I think it would be funny to try to get one
replaced under it's life time warranty at a JC Penny store.

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 6:28 AM

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:22:03 -0500, "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> woodworker88 wrote:
> >>
> >> > This seems like a metalworking tool, so you might try crossposting to
> >> > rec.crafts.metalworking
> >> >
> >> Please don't suggest crossposting. The OP can POST in the other group,
> >> rather than CROSS post.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >
> >What's wrong with crossposting? As long as it's only to 2 or 3 groups,
it's
> >acceptable netiquette. The nice thing for people who might read both
groups
> >is that an intelligent newsreader will only show the article one time.
> >
> >todd
> >
>
> Yep, cross-posting has gotten a bad rap because of the abuse of
> cross-posting. Done properly it not only helps the reader, but also
> prevents having duplicate copies of the same message stored on news
> servers.

The funny thing is that what Dave is suggesting, multiposting, was what was
especially frowned upon.

todd

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

23/08/2005 11:22 PM

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> woodworker88 wrote:
>
> > This seems like a metalworking tool, so you might try crossposting to
> > rec.crafts.metalworking
> >
> Please don't suggest crossposting. The OP can POST in the other group,
> rather than CROSS post.
>
> Dave

What's wrong with crossposting? As long as it's only to 2 or 3 groups, it's
acceptable netiquette. The nice thing for people who might read both groups
is that an intelligent newsreader will only show the article one time.

todd

BB

Bruce Barnett

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 11:42 AM

Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> writes:

> Yep, cross-posting has gotten a bad rap because of the abuse of
> cross-posting. Done properly it not only helps the reader, but also
> prevents having duplicate copies of the same message stored on news
> servers.

And we humans don't have to read the same message three times.

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Bruce Barnett

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 5:02 PM

"Leon" <[email protected]> writes:

> IIRC it was in deed cross posted by her.

Here was the first thread, and she did cross-post.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.pets.dogs.behavior/browse_frm/thread/b49cb1453903d7e9/ecab67eed9dffe0e?lnk=st&q=dog+glue&rnum=4&hl=en#ecab67eed9dffe0e
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"Upscale"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 10:08 AM

"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> horde of trolls posting responses that end up here. Take the pet fiasco
> that started because a wood worker here did not take enough precautions to
> keep polyurethane glue away from her dog.

In defence of the woman who lost her dog to that unfortunate accident, I
don't believe (not positive) that she cross-posted her message to any group
except for rec.woodworking. It was some other person trolling around who
started that fiasco.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 1:57 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:uV_Oe.1281> The
problem with cross posting is that it almost always involves totally off
> subject groups that respond and eventually you end up with a group and its
> horde of trolls posting responses that end up here. Take the pet fiasco
> that started because a wood worker here did not take enough precautions to
> keep polyurethane glue away from her dog. That cross post to the pets
> groups resulted in profanity in this group that lasted for months.

Basically the results to a news group if not carefully cross posted an kept
OT can be as bothersome as the results of not using a virus detection
program while on the internet.

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

23/08/2005 10:01 PM

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:22:03 -0500, "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> woodworker88 wrote:
>>
>> > This seems like a metalworking tool, so you might try crossposting to
>> > rec.crafts.metalworking
>> >
>> Please don't suggest crossposting. The OP can POST in the other group,
>> rather than CROSS post.
>>
>> Dave
>
>What's wrong with crossposting? As long as it's only to 2 or 3 groups, it's
>acceptable netiquette. The nice thing for people who might read both groups
>is that an intelligent newsreader will only show the article one time.
>
>todd
>

Yep, cross-posting has gotten a bad rap because of the abuse of
cross-posting. Done properly it not only helps the reader, but also
prevents having duplicate copies of the same message stored on news
servers.


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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 2:20 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Ci%[email protected]...
>
> IIRC it was in deed cross posted by her.

She was a regular poster here and cross posted to the pets group. Since
then her posting here has diminished greatly.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 10:29 AM

"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> IIRC it was in deed cross posted by her.

My mistake then. I'll assume she crossposted to the pet newsgroup in an
attempt to get assistance with her dog that was still alive at the time.
Under the same circumstances, I'd likely have done the same thing, anything
to save my dog. It's unfortunate that she caught the attention of the puppy
whizzer. I'm quite sure he is largely responsible for her lack of presence
here now. There isn't anybody in this world that I hate, but given the
chance, I'd be perfectly happy to lay a severe beating on that puppy whizzer
asshole.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/08/2005 7:34 AM

24/08/2005 1:49 PM


"Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...

>
> What's wrong with crossposting? As long as it's only to 2 or 3 groups,
> it's
> acceptable netiquette. The nice thing for people who might read both
> groups
> is that an intelligent newsreader will only show the article one time.

The problem with cross posting is that it almost always involves totally off
subject groups that respond and eventually you end up with a group and its
horde of trolls posting responses that end up here. Take the pet fiasco
that started because a wood worker here did not take enough precautions to
keep polyurethane glue away from her dog. That cross post to the pets
groups resulted in profanity in this group that lasted for months.


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