I really hope the owner of 2144 is not in Texas:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RegulatoryServices/narcotics/narcprecursor.htm
"In 1989, the statute was amended and requires anyone who sells,
transfers, furnishes, or purchases certain precursor chemicals or
certain laboratory apparatus to be regulated by DPS. "
""Chemical laboratory apparatus" means any item of equipment designed,
made, or adapted to manufacture a controlled substance or a controlled
substance analogue, including:"
...(D) a three-neck or distilling flask
(H) an Erlenmeyer, two-neck, or single-neck flask
(I) a round-bottom, Florence, thermometer, or filtering flask
(here's my favorite...)
(K) a transformer
Gotta luv 'em...
2143: corkscrew variant?
2144: volumetric gas mixing chamber. Used with other plumbing to hold
low-pressure gasses to make accurate gas mixtures, like the Ne-He mix
to fill a neon lamp.
2145: the terminals are four-way binding posts, it's probably a
battery
box for a toy kit with motor or lamp bits.
2146: Gerbil cage? I was thinking crab trap, but the inner parts
aren't
suitable, and for a bird cage, it looks amazingly undamaged.
2147: Rugged case and clip, electric power and what looks like
tube fittings... with an electric meter movement. Dunno; maybe
some safety-check equipment for aircraft support crews?
On Jan 20, 5:15=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>
> Rob
2144: It reminds me of a receiver jar. They are used on dairy farms
that use a piplene to milk cows. The milk goes from the milker and
then into the pipeline. Then into the jar and gets pumped out of the
bottom and into the bulk holding tank. The extra hole is for a probe
that senses the level of the milk and turns the pump on and off to
pump out the milk.
"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "George W Frost" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>"Joseph Gwinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just posted this week's set:
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>>>
>>> 2145: It may be a mystery component, for use in a school lab, where one
>>> test of budding young electrical engineers is to have them figure out
>>> what's in the box by making electrical tests only.
>>>
>>> Despite the color scheme, this is called a "black-box test".
>>>
>>> Joe Gwinn
>>
>>Well Joe, the famous "Black Box" which was invented by an Australian and
>>is
>>in every aeroplane, is orange.
>>
>
> I wasn't aware that Wilhelm Cauer was an ozzie.
>
> scott
I realize that some citizens of the US, have misinterpreted the name
Australia and confused it with Austria, which are approximately 9000 miles
apart
But, although Austria is close to Germany, let us not confuse the subject
further
Wilhelm was a German and had nothing to do with flight recorders at all.
Wilhelm Cauer (June 24, 1900 - April 22, 1945) was a German mathematician
and scientist. He is most noted for his work on the analysis and synthesis
of electrical filters and his work marked the beginning of the field of
network synthesis.
Don't know where you got your information from, but, this may clear things
up for you:
Dr David Warren of the Aeronautical Research Laboratories in Melbourne,
Australia invented the "Black Box" flight data recorder. He was the first
person to conceive of the idea of recording the flight crew's conversation
on an airplane and of protecting that recording in the event of a crash or
fire. The purpose of the Black Box was to help identify the reasons for a
plane crash, by recording any clues in the flight crew's conversation. The
Black Box was invented in 1953 and in production by 1957. The first ones
were painted bright red or orange to make them easier to find after a crash.
In 1960, Australia became the first country to make flight recorders
mandatory in aircraft.
On Jan 21, 8:54=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> "J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On 1/20/11 5:58 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> >>> 2147 - Looks like some type of edger. Or a seam folder?
>
> >> Once again your second guess is better, and maybe partially correct
> >> though not specific enough.
>
> >>> Used by holding
> >>> the bent section as a handle and the curved area at your shoulder. Th=
en
> >>> lean into or over the work?
>
> >> This part of your answer is accurate.
>
> > Could it have been to press carpet into a corner? =A0To press oakum or =
other
> > caulking into a seam?
>
> It's not for use with carpet or caulking.
Amazing. This might be the first time something did not turn out to be
a carpet stretcher or fence wire tightener. :-)
"George W Frost" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>"Joseph Gwinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Just posted this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>>
>> 2145: It may be a mystery component, for use in a school lab, where one
>> test of budding young electrical engineers is to have them figure out
>> what's in the box by making electrical tests only.
>>
>> Despite the color scheme, this is called a "black-box test".
>>
>> Joe Gwinn
>
>Well Joe, the famous "Black Box" which was invented by an Australian and is
>in every aeroplane, is orange.
>
I wasn't aware that Wilhelm Cauer was an ozzie.
scott
On Jan 22, 4:24=A0pm, "George W Frost" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Joseph Gwinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Just posted this week's set:
>
> >>http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>
> > 2145: =A0It may be a mystery component, for use in a school lab, where =
one
> > test of budding young electrical engineers is to have them figure out
> > what's in the box by making electrical tests only.
>
> > Despite the color scheme, this is called a "black-box test".
>
> > Joe Gwinn
>
> Well Joe, the famous "Black Box" which was invented by an Australian and =
is
> in every aeroplane, is orange.
Hell, BF Skinner's "Black Box" isn't even a box.
--riverman
"George W Frost" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "George W Frost" <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>"Joseph Gwinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just posted this week's set:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>>>>
>>>> 2145: It may be a mystery component, for use in a school lab, where one
>>>> test of budding young electrical engineers is to have them figure out
>>>> what's in the box by making electrical tests only.
>>>>
>>>> Despite the color scheme, this is called a "black-box test".
>>>>
>>>> Joe Gwinn
>>>
>>>Well Joe, the famous "Black Box" which was invented by an Australian and
>>>is
>>>in every aeroplane, is orange.
>>>
>>
>> I wasn't aware that Wilhelm Cauer was an ozzie.
>>
>> scott
>
>I realize that some citizens of the US, have misinterpreted the name
>Australia and confused it with Austria, which are approximately 9000 miles
>apart
>But, although Austria is close to Germany, let us not confuse the subject
>further
>Wilhelm was a German and had nothing to do with flight recorders at all.
I have no confusion on any of these topics. Geo Frost indicated that the
term black box was related to flight recorders.
I point out that Wilhelm Cauer was the originator of network synthesis
for the transfer functions of black boxes in the 1940's.
scott
"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "George W Frost" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> "George W Frost" <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>
>>>>"Joseph Gwinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just posted this week's set:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>>>>>
>>>>> 2145: It may be a mystery component, for use in a school lab, where
>>>>> one
>>>>> test of budding young electrical engineers is to have them figure out
>>>>> what's in the box by making electrical tests only.
>>>>>
>>>>> Despite the color scheme, this is called a "black-box test".
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Gwinn
>>>>
>>>>Well Joe, the famous "Black Box" which was invented by an Australian and
>>>>is
>>>>in every aeroplane, is orange.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wasn't aware that Wilhelm Cauer was an ozzie.
>>>
>>> scott
>>
>>I realize that some citizens of the US, have misinterpreted the name
>>Australia and confused it with Austria, which are approximately 9000 miles
>>apart
>>But, although Austria is close to Germany, let us not confuse the subject
>>further
>>Wilhelm was a German and had nothing to do with flight recorders at all.
>
> I have no confusion on any of these topics. Geo Frost indicated that the
> term black box was related to flight recorders.
Correct
> I point out that Wilhelm Cauer was the originator of network synthesis
> for the transfer functions of black boxes in the 1940's.
Wrong again,
You didn't do too well in history, did you ?
> scott
Rob H. wrote:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
2143: On examining the closeup, it's for making "curly fries" from
rutabaga or wood.
2144: Reaction chamber for making organic molecules from primordial soup.
2145: Battery case.
2146: Bandersnatch cage.
2147: Jolly Green Giant's pizza cutter.
2148: Continuity tester for Frankenstein's Creature's neck studs.
Cheers!
Rich
Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>
>
> Rob
2143 - Looks like a bung tool. Twist and shove it into a bung, then the
anchor points come out and you can remove the bung by pulling it up.
2144 - Separation chamber?
2145 - Fancy battery case. Looks like something made for model rocket
use where you want to look pretty...
2146 - Maybe a model of a pigeon coop? Or a traveling cage for a finch?
2147 - Looks like some type of edger. Or a seam folder? Used by holding
the bent section as a handle and the curved area at your shoulder. Then
lean into or over the work?
--
Steve W.
> Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>
>
> Rob
2143 - Looks like a bung tool. Twist and shove it into a bung, then the
anchor points come out and you can remove the bung by pulling it up.
2144 - Separation chamber?
2145 - Fancy battery case. Looks like something made for model rocket
use where you want to look pretty...
2146 - Maybe a model of a pigeon coop? Or a traveling cage for a finch?
2147 - Looks like some type of edger. Or a seam folder? Used by holding
the bent section as a handle and the curved area at your shoulder. Then
lean into or over the work?
2148 - Test meter for a lineman?
-- Steve W.
"Ted Frater" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rob H. wrote:
>> Just posted this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Ive never seen such a tool,
> however theres a possibility that its to do with brewing, specifically
> for the removal of the oak? filling bungs? in wooden beer barrels.
> these filling bungs are hammered in flush with the barrel so its not
> possible to get a purchase on the bung to remove it without getting to
> its underside.
This tool isn't for use on wood.
Rob
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
> 2144 - Separation chamber?
I haven't been able to find another one like it on the web, I would guess
it's laboratory related as few others have also suggested, although a couple
of people think it might be milking related. Still a mystery for me right
now.
> 2145 - Fancy battery case. Looks like something made for model rocket
> use where you want to look pretty...
I also think it's a battery but haven't found any proof.
> 2146 - Maybe a model of a pigeon coop? Or a traveling cage for a finch?
Your second guess is closer.
> 2147 - Looks like some type of edger. Or a seam folder?
Once again your second guess is better, and maybe partially correct though
not specific enough.
>Used by holding
> the bent section as a handle and the curved area at your shoulder. Then
> lean into or over the work?
This part of your answer is accurate.
> 2148 - Test meter for a lineman?
No correct guesses for this one yet.
Rob
On 1/20/11 5:58 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> 2147 - Looks like some type of edger. Or a seam folder?
>
> Once again your second guess is better, and maybe partially correct
> though not specific enough.
>
>> Used by holding
>> the bent section as a handle and the curved area at your shoulder. Then
>> lean into or over the work?
>
> This part of your answer is accurate.
Could it have been to press carpet into a corner? To press oakum or
other caulking into a seam?
On 1/20/11 5:43 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Ted Frater" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>> Just posted this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> Ive never seen such a tool,
>> however theres a possibility that its to do with brewing, specifically
>> for the removal of the oak? filling bungs? in wooden beer barrels.
>> these filling bungs are hammered in flush with the barrel so its not
>> possible to get a purchase on the bung to remove it without getting to
>> its underside.
>
>
> This tool isn't for use on wood.
>
>
> Rob
How about ice? I don't think a screw would work on a block of ice, and
tongs would require space on the sides.
"J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1/20/11 5:58 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> 2147 - Looks like some type of edger. Or a seam folder?
>>
>> Once again your second guess is better, and maybe partially correct
>> though not specific enough.
>>
>>> Used by holding
>>> the bent section as a handle and the curved area at your shoulder. Then
>>> lean into or over the work?
>>
>> This part of your answer is accurate.
>
> Could it have been to press carpet into a corner? To press oakum or other
> caulking into a seam?
It's not for use with carpet or caulking.
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rob H. wrote:
>
>>> 2146 - Maybe a model of a pigeon coop? Or a traveling cage for a finch?
>>
>> Your second guess is closer.
>
> Cage for a carrier pigeon?
>
> Bill
Nope
On 1/20/2011 10:18 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>>> 2146 - Maybe a model of a pigeon coop? Or a traveling cage for a finch?
>>>
>>> Your second guess is closer.
>>
>> Cage for a carrier pigeon?
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> Nope
A cage to transport the canary to the mine?
Kevin Gallimore
lektric dan wrote:
> I really hope the owner of 2144 is not in Texas:
>
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RegulatoryServices/narcotics/narcprecursor.htm
> "In 1989, the statute was amended and requires anyone who sells,
> transfers, furnishes, or purchases certain precursor chemicals or
> certain laboratory apparatus to be regulated by DPS. "
>
> ""Chemical laboratory apparatus" means any item of equipment designed,
> made, or adapted to manufacture a controlled substance or a controlled
> substance analogue, including:"
> ...(D) a three-neck or distilling flask
> (H) an Erlenmeyer, two-neck, or single-neck flask
> (I) a round-bottom, Florence, thermometer, or filtering flask
> (here's my favorite...)
> (K) a transformer
>
> Gotta luv 'em...
Should have also x-posted this to sci.electronics.design. They'd love it!
A fucking "TRANSFORMER?" Like a cell phone charger? A naked MOT[1]? How is
that a "precursor" to anything? Maybe they're afraid you'll make a taser,
although you'd need a really really long extension cord!
Thanks,
Rich
[1] MOT = Microwave Oven Transformer
"lektric dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:55690db8-cb63-400e-b355-ff31fd2f3135@o14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>I really hope the owner of 2144 is not in Texas:
> http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RegulatoryServices/narcotics/narcprecursor.htm
> "In 1989, the statute was amended and requires anyone who sells,
> transfers, furnishes, or purchases certain precursor chemicals or
> certain laboratory apparatus to be regulated by DPS. "
>
> ""Chemical laboratory apparatus" means any item of equipment designed,
> made, or adapted to manufacture a controlled substance or a controlled
> substance analogue, including:"
> ...(D) a three-neck or distilling flask
> (H) an Erlenmeyer, two-neck, or single-neck flask
> (I) a round-bottom, Florence, thermometer, or filtering flask
> (here's my favorite...)
> (K) a transformer
>
> Gotta luv 'em...
Lionel gonna have to answer for K!
--
"He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy! "
Brian's Mum
On 1/22/11 3:24 AM, George W Frost wrote:
> Well Joe, the famous "Black Box" which was invented by an Australian and is
> in every aeroplane, is orange.
>
I believe the first time the world saw a famous black box was December
26, 1908. It was in Sydney, but Burns was Canadian and Johnson was
American.
In response to Jack London's appeal, Jeffries offered to prove that the
white man was king of them all in 1910. Friends dragged him from the
ring before the referee could count a knockout. Whites rioted in 50
cities across the US. In a joint project, film companies made a
$250,000 documentary. Congress banned transporting the film across
state lines. Teddy Roosevelt, until that point an avid boxing fan, said
the sport should be banned.
Johnson was sentenced to federal prison because he'd once had a white
girlfriend. He went on a world tour instead. Then he invented a new
wrench. He returned to the US and took up residency in Leavenworth so
he could get in patented: 1,413,121. I don't know why Rob hasn't
displayed it!
J Burns wrote:
> On 1/22/11 3:24 AM, George W Frost wrote:
>> Well Joe, the famous "Black Box" which was invented by an Australian and
>> is in every aeroplane, is orange.
>
> I believe the first time the world saw a famous black box was December
> 26, 1908. It was in Sydney, but Burns was Canadian and Johnson was
> American.
You seem to have confused "famous 'black box'" with "'famous Black' box."
One's a noun, the other's a verb.
Have a Nice Day!
Rich Grise, Self-Appointed Chief
USENET Grammar and Syntax Police
In article <[email protected]>,
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
2145: It may be a mystery component, for use in a school lab, where one
test of budding young electrical engineers is to have them figure out
what's in the box by making electrical tests only.
Despite the color scheme, this is called a "black-box test".
Joe Gwinn
On 2011-01-20, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2143) Tool for deburing the other side of a drilled or punched hole.
Drilled is more likely to have limited access to the far side.
2144) If the Pyrex logo is a round green color fired onto the glass,
then it is some form of chem lab equipment. There is a lot
which has been special modified for an unusual task.
This may have started as a sphere with a single neck, and the
other two were added by a glassblower at the lab in question.
Given the angles of the necks, I suspect that it was for
reacting at least two gasses, and drawing off the results in yet
another direction.
If it is such a modified piece of labware, it is unlikely to
have a specific name.
It does look to have plain necks, not the ground glass fitted
ones for coupling directly to other glassware -- so whatever it
reacted probably would not attack rubber stoppers.
2145) Lots of possibilities -- most of which would be supported by the
presence of markings on the box somewhere.
It looks as though the two binding posts are not on the
standard 3/4" center to center spacing, so I suspect that it was
someone's home-made product. (The reason for the standard
spacing is so standard dual banana plugs can fit into it, not
needing a separate connection to each post. The posts will
accept banana plugs, wires (through a transverse hole under the
knobs) and fork terminals.
The fact that two different colors of binding post are used
suggests that it is polarized - but it may also simply represent
what was available from the piece of equipment which was
canibalized to supply the binding posts. These are the cheap
ones which were used on Heathkit equipment, and likely from
Radio Shack stores as well.
I don't see the normal insulating mounting spacers, so the box
itself is likely plastic, not metal -- unless it is a dummy
device not really intended to be connected to.
What is there could be:
1) A standard cell (1.0194V or so) -- but there should be
a marker to not turn it upside down. (Standard cells
really have to sit on a shelf forever undisturbed.)
2) A standard resistor (no need for polarity there), but
there should be a marking showing the value.
3) A standard capacitor. If electrolytic, the polarity
markings from the colors of the binding posts is useful,
of course. Again -- no markings to show the value
inside.
4) A battery (polarity makes sense there, of course), but
again, no markings. And -- no obvious way to replace it,
though the bottom could be open. We don't see that
view, so we don't know.
5) Intended to look like an explosive device.
6) Something which I have not yet thought of.
2146) Some kind of trap or remote-release cage. I note that the
floorboard appears to be under stress, which might be used to
shoot the door open or closed.
2147) Looks like something designed for rolling a groove between a
curbstone and the grass alongside it -- or alongside a sidewalk
or driveway.
2148) Looks like something designed to measure some characteristic
of a gas -- and to adjust the flow of it. It looks as though the
meter dial is marked in percent, and it appears to be an
electrical meter of some sort.
There is a hose barb on the right. The left might be an
adjustment knob or some form of calibrating plugin.
There is an old mil-standard connector on the other end of the
cable.
I don't know whether the hanging loop pivot does anything else
as well -- since it appears to be knurled for either adjustment
or field removal and replacement.
Now to send this off and see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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"Joseph Gwinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just posted this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>
> 2145: It may be a mystery component, for use in a school lab, where one
> test of budding young electrical engineers is to have them figure out
> what's in the box by making electrical tests only.
>
> Despite the color scheme, this is called a "black-box test".
>
> Joe Gwinn
Well Joe, the famous "Black Box" which was invented by an Australian and is
in every aeroplane, is orange.
Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-372.html
>
>
> Rob
Ive never seen such a tool,
however theres a possibility that its to do with brewing, specifically
for the removal of the oak? filling bungs? in wooden beer barrels.
these filling bungs are hammered in flush with the barrel so its not
possible to get a purchase on the bung to remove it without getting to
its underside.