have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
but it would really benefit from having a light
not sure why there is no light
it would not add much to the cost and it would be really helpful
also annoying to have to blow out the dust so it would be another
useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
otherwise it is a great tool
the quick blade change is excellent as is the blade angle of cut
adjustment
On 24 Dec 2016 06:00:39 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>krw <[email protected]> wrote in news:3bjr5cp3effcbmilim0g15lp1ii5857lcn@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
>> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>
>*trim*
>
>>>IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
>>>with two positions.
>>
>> Sucking is better than blowing.
>>
>
>Not always. (Do you like to argue?) Try this experiment (Bill Pentz
>came up with it): Take a ping pong ball and two straws. One person can
>only blow through the straw and the other can only suck. Try to get the
>ball to go out of a circle or into an area. The person blowing will win
>every game.
Well, if you're into balls... ;-)
>
>If you need to see a line, a blower can be more efficient than trying to
>suck the dust away.
But then you have to suck it away later. Except for the bigger tail,
I find the vacuum much better.
On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 10:56:46 AM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
> have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
> but it would really benefit from having a light
> it would be another
> useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
I see you are talking about these brand new high faluting jigsaws with all these fancy dandy luxuries. Wow. My Bosch is about 20 years old now. Good top handle design. These lights and blower things had not been invented back then.
On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o3jkti$9p8$3
>@dont-email.me:
>
>> have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
>>
>> but it would really benefit from having a light
>>
>> not sure why there is no light
>>
>> it would not add much to the cost and it would be really helpful
>>
>> also annoying to have to blow out the dust so it would be another
>> useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
>>
>> otherwise it is a great tool
>>
>> the quick blade change is excellent as is the blade angle of cut
>> adjustment
>>
>
>Someone must own a patent somewhere... Although I'd consider it obvious
>to anyone in the industry: An integrated light shining on the working
>area of the tool.
IIRC, the Festool has a strobe light. That's a different and useful
idea (i.e. patentable).
>
>IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
>with two positions.
Sucking is better than blowing.
On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:25:04 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:53:31 -0800 (PST)
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> > I see you are talking about these brand new high faluting jigsaws
> > with all these fancy dandy luxuries. Wow. My Bosch is about 20
> > years old now. Good top handle design. These lights and blower
> > things had not been invented back then.
>=20
> good to know this one comes from good lineage
>=20
> the cordless makita drill and driver have lights and it is a very
> useful feature
Cordless drills (drills, not drivers) had been invented when I bought my Bo=
sch jigsaw. On drills lights make sense because you can and do drill when =
you do not have a good site line to what you are drilling. And drill in sm=
all enclosed spaces with poor visibility. But jigsaws are usually used whe=
re you can see what you are cutting and follow the line. With drills you a=
re laying on your belly with your arm stretched out and drilling a hole or =
driving a screw. You don't operate jigsaws like that. So lights on jigsaw=
s make just a little more sense than lights on circular saws. Do people wa=
nt lights on their worm drive Skilsaw?
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o3jkti$9p8$3
@dont-email.me:
> have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
>
> but it would really benefit from having a light
>
> not sure why there is no light
>
> it would not add much to the cost and it would be really helpful
>
> also annoying to have to blow out the dust so it would be another
> useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
>
> otherwise it is a great tool
>
> the quick blade change is excellent as is the blade angle of cut
> adjustment
>
Someone must own a patent somewhere... Although I'd consider it obvious
to anyone in the industry: An integrated light shining on the working
area of the tool.
IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
with two positions.
Puckdropper
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FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Mine has a hand crank, if I want a light, there are always candles.
>
It must have taken quite some time to get your hand steady enough to follow
the line while cranking.
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"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Cordless drills (drills, not drivers) had been invented when I bought
> my Bosch jigsaw. On drills lights make sense because you can and do
> drill when you do not have a good site line to what you are drilling.
> And drill in small enclosed spaces with poor visibility. But jigsaws
> are usually used where you can see what you are cutting and follow the
> line. With drills you are laying on your belly with your arm
> stretched out and drilling a hole or driving a screw. You don't
> operate jigsaws like that. So lights on jigsaws make just a little
> more sense than lights on circular saws. Do people want lights on
> their worm drive Skilsaw?
YES!!!!!!!
I'm young, I've got good low-light vision. I don't need much light, but
a single LED on either side of the blade would be nice when I'm trying to
freehand a cut. The saw casts a shadow, I cast a shadow, sometimes that
line gets to be rather dark.
Puckdropper
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krw <[email protected]> wrote in news:3bjr5cp3effcbmilim0g15lp1ii5857lcn@
4ax.com:
> On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>
*trim*
>>IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
>>with two positions.
>
> Sucking is better than blowing.
>
Not always. (Do you like to argue?) Try this experiment (Bill Pentz
came up with it): Take a ping pong ball and two straws. One person can
only blow through the straw and the other can only suck. Try to get the
ball to go out of a circle or into an area. The person blowing will win
every game.
If you need to see a line, a blower can be more efficient than trying to
suck the dust away.
Puckdropper
--
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krw <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 24 Dec 2016 06:00:39 GMT, Puckdropper
> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>
*trim*
>>
>>If you need to see a line, a blower can be more efficient than trying
>>to suck the dust away.
>
> But then you have to suck it away later. Except for the bigger tail,
> I find the vacuum much better.
The Bosch blower doesn't have a tail, and only moves the dust just far
enough away you can see the line. You'll still have to sweep or vacuum
it up later, but a jigsaw with giant hose would be rather cumbersome.
Puckdropper
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:25:58 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <585e0f07$0$7342$c3e8da3
>[email protected]>, Puckdropper
>says...
>>
>> krw <[email protected]> wrote in news:3bjr5cp3effcbmilim0g15lp1ii5857lcn@
>> 4ax.com:
>>
>> > On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
>> > <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>> >>
>>
>> *trim*
>>
>> >>IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
>> >>with two positions.
>> >
>> > Sucking is better than blowing.
>> >
>>
>> Not always. (Do you like to argue?) Try this experiment (Bill Pentz
>> came up with it): Take a ping pong ball and two straws. One person can
>> only blow through the straw and the other can only suck. Try to get the
>> ball to go out of a circle or into an area. The person blowing will win
>> every game.
>>
>> If you need to see a line, a blower can be more efficient than trying to
>> suck the dust away.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
>And if you're cutting steel with a lubricant
>(which Bosch saws will do--the old ones even had
>a powered lubricant dispenser accessory
>available that was driven by the saw) do you
>really want to be sucking the lubricant and
>chips into the mechanism?
Into the mechanism? I don't think you want to blow it around the
room, either.
>
>Of course you can always go green, but even
>green doesn't suck with the saw's mechanism,
>they just provide a dust port to which a
>(preferably green) vacuum can be attached.
Sure. I wouldn't want to steal power from the saw for the vacuum, nor
would I want to control but the saw and the vacuum.
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 21:52:52 -0500, Larry Kraus <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 12/23/2016 8:23 PM, krw wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:08:24 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:25:04 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:53:31 -0800 (PST)
>>>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I see you are talking about these brand new high faluting jigsaws
>>>>> with all these fancy dandy luxuries. Wow. My Bosch is about 20
>>>>> years old now. Good top handle design. These lights and blower
>>>>> things had not been invented back then.
>>>>
>>>> good to know this one comes from good lineage
>>>>
>>>> the cordless makita drill and driver have lights and it is a very
>>>> useful feature
>>>
>>> Cordless drills (drills, not drivers) had been invented when I bought my Bosch jigsaw. On drills lights make sense because you can and do drill when you do not have a good site line to what you are drilling. And drill in small enclosed spaces with poor visibility. But jigsaws are usually used where you can see what you are cutting and follow the line. With drills you are laying on your belly with your arm stretched out and drilling a hole or driving a screw. You don't operate jigsaws like that. So lights on jigsaws make just a little more sense than lights on circular saws. Do people want lights on their worm drive Skilsaw?
>>
>> Sure. All light helps.
>>
>Yep. I had a Crapsman router that came with a very useful light. Made
>it much easier to watch the bit work its way out of the chuck.
LOL! Makes perfect sense.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 23:52:57 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/24/2016 1:35 PM, krw wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:49:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/23/2016 7:21 PM, krw wrote:
>>>> On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
>>>> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o3jkti$9p8$3
>>>>> @dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but it would really benefit from having a light
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not sure why there is no light
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it would not add much to the cost and it would be really helpful
>>>>>>
>>>>>> also annoying to have to blow out the dust so it would be another
>>>>>> useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
>>>>>>
>>>>>> otherwise it is a great tool
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the quick blade change is excellent as is the blade angle of cut
>>>>>> adjustment
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone must own a patent somewhere... Although I'd consider it obvious
>>>>> to anyone in the industry: An integrated light shining on the working
>>>>> area of the tool.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, the Festool has a strobe light. That's a different and useful
>>>> idea (i.e. patentable).
>>>
>>> I have often wondered why a strobe and how that would be useful. Do you
>>> know or have a clue? I do know that the latest strobe light Festool
>>> jig saw was delayed for sale in the US, IIRC it had something to do with
>>> the strobe making the blade appear to be not moving up and down.
>>
>> Probably because American lawyers will convince juries that a blade
>> that looks like it's not moving is "dangerous".
>>
>> I think the idea of the "stopped" blade is that one can see where the
>> teeth are (they're doing the cutting, after all).
>>
>Understood but really, I know where the teeth are, what difference does
>it make to see the teeth?
So you can see where the cut will be, rather than where it was?
On 12/24/2016 1:35 PM, krw wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:49:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/23/2016 7:21 PM, krw wrote:
>>> On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
>>> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o3jkti$9p8$3
>>>> @dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
>>>>>
>>>>> but it would really benefit from having a light
>>>>>
>>>>> not sure why there is no light
>>>>>
>>>>> it would not add much to the cost and it would be really helpful
>>>>>
>>>>> also annoying to have to blow out the dust so it would be another
>>>>> useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
>>>>>
>>>>> otherwise it is a great tool
>>>>>
>>>>> the quick blade change is excellent as is the blade angle of cut
>>>>> adjustment
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Someone must own a patent somewhere... Although I'd consider it obvious
>>>> to anyone in the industry: An integrated light shining on the working
>>>> area of the tool.
>>>
>>> IIRC, the Festool has a strobe light. That's a different and useful
>>> idea (i.e. patentable).
>>
>> I have often wondered why a strobe and how that would be useful. Do you
>> know or have a clue? I do know that the latest strobe light Festool
>> jig saw was delayed for sale in the US, IIRC it had something to do with
>> the strobe making the blade appear to be not moving up and down.
>
> Probably because American lawyers will convince juries that a blade
> that looks like it's not moving is "dangerous".
>
> I think the idea of the "stopped" blade is that one can see where the
> teeth are (they're doing the cutting, after all).
>
Understood but really, I know where the teeth are, what difference does
it make to see the teeth?
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 10:24:33 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <5c1t5ct0e6godrj5pmmi20jams0dafcd9u@
>4ax.com>, [email protected] says...
>>
>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:25:58 -0500, "J. Clarke"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <585e0f07$0$7342$c3e8da3
>> >[email protected]>, Puckdropper
>> >says...
>> >>
>> >> krw <[email protected]> wrote in news:3bjr5cp3effcbmilim0g15lp1ii5857lcn@
>> >> 4ax.com:
>> >>
>> >> > On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
>> >> > <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> *trim*
>> >>
>> >> >>IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
>> >> >>with two positions.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sucking is better than blowing.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Not always. (Do you like to argue?) Try this experiment (Bill Pentz
>> >> came up with it): Take a ping pong ball and two straws. One person can
>> >> only blow through the straw and the other can only suck. Try to get the
>> >> ball to go out of a circle or into an area. The person blowing will win
>> >> every game.
>> >>
>> >> If you need to see a line, a blower can be more efficient than trying to
>> >> suck the dust away.
>> >>
>> >> Puckdropper
>> >
>> >And if you're cutting steel with a lubricant
>> >(which Bosch saws will do--the old ones even had
>> >a powered lubricant dispenser accessory
>> >available that was driven by the saw) do you
>> >really want to be sucking the lubricant and
>> >chips into the mechanism?
>>
>> Into the mechanism? I don't think you want to blow it around the
>> room, either.
>
>And yet that has been normal practice ever since
>sawing was invented.
Because it was "always done that way" doesn't mean there aren't better
ways.
>
>> >Of course you can always go green, but even
>> >green doesn't suck with the saw's mechanism,
>> >they just provide a dust port to which a
>> >(preferably green) vacuum can be attached.
>>
>> Sure. I wouldn't want to steal power from the saw for the vacuum, nor
>> would I want to control but the saw and the vacuum.
>
>So you favor a jigsaw with a vacuum attachment.
Not sure. The tail seems like it would get in the way for many cuts.
>While that is certainly OK if you are sawing in
>your mother's living room, on a construction
>site controlling the dust is of considerably
>less importance.
A jig saw on a construction site? Don't believe I've ever seen one. I
try not to throw sawdust around my shop (not always successfully).
On 12/23/2016 8:23 PM, krw wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:08:24 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:25:04 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:53:31 -0800 (PST)
>>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I see you are talking about these brand new high faluting jigsaws
>>>> with all these fancy dandy luxuries. Wow. My Bosch is about 20
>>>> years old now. Good top handle design. These lights and blower
>>>> things had not been invented back then.
>>>
>>> good to know this one comes from good lineage
>>>
>>> the cordless makita drill and driver have lights and it is a very
>>> useful feature
>>
>> Cordless drills (drills, not drivers) had been invented when I bought my Bosch jigsaw. On drills lights make sense because you can and do drill when you do not have a good site line to what you are drilling. And drill in small enclosed spaces with poor visibility. But jigsaws are usually used where you can see what you are cutting and follow the line. With drills you are laying on your belly with your arm stretched out and drilling a hole or driving a screw. You don't operate jigsaws like that. So lights on jigsaws make just a little more sense than lights on circular saws. Do people want lights on their worm drive Skilsaw?
>
> Sure. All light helps.
>
Yep. I had a Crapsman router that came with a very useful light. Made
it much easier to watch the bit work its way out of the chuck.
In article <1c2f35f7-9ff1-418a-9030-16a910596749
@googlegroups.com>, [email protected]
says...
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 10:56:46 AM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
> > have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
> > but it would really benefit from having a light
> > it would be another
> > useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
>
> I see you are talking about these brand new high faluting jigsaws with all these fancy dandy luxuries. Wow. My Bosch is about 20 years old now. Good top handle design. These lights and blower things had not been invented back then.
You'll be getting a new one soon then. Mine was
about the same vintage when it wore out a part
that is no longer available (at least not in the
US--Bosch UK lists it but won't ship across the
pond).
In article <585e0f07$0$7342$c3e8da3
[email protected]>, Puckdropper
says...
>
> krw <[email protected]> wrote in news:3bjr5cp3effcbmilim0g15lp1ii5857lcn@
> 4ax.com:
>
> > On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
> > <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> >>
>
> *trim*
>
> >>IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
> >>with two positions.
> >
> > Sucking is better than blowing.
> >
>
> Not always. (Do you like to argue?) Try this experiment (Bill Pentz
> came up with it): Take a ping pong ball and two straws. One person can
> only blow through the straw and the other can only suck. Try to get the
> ball to go out of a circle or into an area. The person blowing will win
> every game.
>
> If you need to see a line, a blower can be more efficient than trying to
> suck the dust away.
>
> Puckdropper
And if you're cutting steel with a lubricant
(which Bosch saws will do--the old ones even had
a powered lubricant dispenser accessory
available that was driven by the saw) do you
really want to be sucking the lubricant and
chips into the mechanism?
Of course you can always go green, but even
green doesn't suck with the saw's mechanism,
they just provide a dust port to which a
(preferably green) vacuum can be attached.
In article <5c1t5ct0e6godrj5pmmi20jams0dafcd9u@
4ax.com>, [email protected] says...
>
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:25:58 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <585e0f07$0$7342$c3e8da3
> >[email protected]>, Puckdropper
> >says...
> >>
> >> krw <[email protected]> wrote in news:3bjr5cp3effcbmilim0g15lp1ii5857lcn@
> >> 4ax.com:
> >>
> >> > On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
> >> > <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >>
> >> *trim*
> >>
> >> >>IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
> >> >>with two positions.
> >> >
> >> > Sucking is better than blowing.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Not always. (Do you like to argue?) Try this experiment (Bill Pentz
> >> came up with it): Take a ping pong ball and two straws. One person can
> >> only blow through the straw and the other can only suck. Try to get the
> >> ball to go out of a circle or into an area. The person blowing will win
> >> every game.
> >>
> >> If you need to see a line, a blower can be more efficient than trying to
> >> suck the dust away.
> >>
> >> Puckdropper
> >
> >And if you're cutting steel with a lubricant
> >(which Bosch saws will do--the old ones even had
> >a powered lubricant dispenser accessory
> >available that was driven by the saw) do you
> >really want to be sucking the lubricant and
> >chips into the mechanism?
>
> Into the mechanism? I don't think you want to blow it around the
> room, either.
And yet that has been normal practice ever since
sawing was invented.
> >Of course you can always go green, but even
> >green doesn't suck with the saw's mechanism,
> >they just provide a dust port to which a
> >(preferably green) vacuum can be attached.
>
> Sure. I wouldn't want to steal power from the saw for the vacuum, nor
> would I want to control but the saw and the vacuum.
So you favor a jigsaw with a vacuum attachment.
While that is certainly OK if you are sawing in
your mother's living room, on a construction
site controlling the dust is of considerably
less importance.
On 12/25/2016 7:41 AM, krw wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 23:52:57 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/24/2016 1:35 PM, krw wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:49:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/23/2016 7:21 PM, krw wrote:
>>>>> On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
>>>>> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o3jkti$9p8$3
>>>>>> @dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but it would really benefit from having a light
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not sure why there is no light
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it would not add much to the cost and it would be really helpful
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> also annoying to have to blow out the dust so it would be another
>>>>>>> useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> otherwise it is a great tool
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the quick blade change is excellent as is the blade angle of cut
>>>>>>> adjustment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone must own a patent somewhere... Although I'd consider it obvious
>>>>>> to anyone in the industry: An integrated light shining on the working
>>>>>> area of the tool.
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC, the Festool has a strobe light. That's a different and useful
>>>>> idea (i.e. patentable).
>>>>
>>>> I have often wondered why a strobe and how that would be useful. Do you
>>>> know or have a clue? I do know that the latest strobe light Festool
>>>> jig saw was delayed for sale in the US, IIRC it had something to do with
>>>> the strobe making the blade appear to be not moving up and down.
>>>
>>> Probably because American lawyers will convince juries that a blade
>>> that looks like it's not moving is "dangerous".
>>>
>>> I think the idea of the "stopped" blade is that one can see where the
>>> teeth are (they're doing the cutting, after all).
>>>
>> Understood but really, I know where the teeth are, what difference does
>> it make to see the teeth?
>
> So you can see where the cut will be, rather than where it was?
>
LOL. I think it is probably like a laser on a DP. Perhaps if I used
one I might see the advantage.
On 12/24/2016 12:00 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> krw <[email protected]> wrote in news:3bjr5cp3effcbmilim0g15lp1ii5857lcn@
> 4ax.com:
>
>> On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
>> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>
> *trim*
>
>>> IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
>>> with two positions.
>>
>> Sucking is better than blowing.
>>
>
> Not always. (Do you like to argue?) Try this experiment (Bill Pentz
> came up with it): Take a ping pong ball and two straws. One person can
> only blow through the straw and the other can only suck. Try to get the
> ball to go out of a circle or into an area. The person blowing will win
> every game.
>
> If you need to see a line, a blower can be more efficient than trying to
> suck the dust away.
>
> Puckdropper
>
Maybe for moving ping pong balls. ;~) In this instance I would rather
the debris be removed at the source rather than blowing it all over the
area. FWIW my Milwaukee jig saw has a blower and it blows. Works much
better with the shop vac attached and running.
On 12/23/2016 7:21 PM, krw wrote:
> On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o3jkti$9p8$3
>> @dont-email.me:
>>
>>> have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
>>>
>>> but it would really benefit from having a light
>>>
>>> not sure why there is no light
>>>
>>> it would not add much to the cost and it would be really helpful
>>>
>>> also annoying to have to blow out the dust so it would be another
>>> useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
>>>
>>> otherwise it is a great tool
>>>
>>> the quick blade change is excellent as is the blade angle of cut
>>> adjustment
>>>
>>
>> Someone must own a patent somewhere... Although I'd consider it obvious
>> to anyone in the industry: An integrated light shining on the working
>> area of the tool.
>
> IIRC, the Festool has a strobe light. That's a different and useful
> idea (i.e. patentable).
I have often wondered why a strobe and how that would be useful. Do you
know or have a clue? I do know that the latest strobe light Festool
jig saw was delayed for sale in the US, IIRC it had something to do with
the strobe making the blade appear to be not moving up and down.
>>
>> IIRC, my 1590 does have a blower... it's good enough. It's the switch
>> with two positions.
>
> Sucking is better than blowing.
>
On 12/27/2016 3:39 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:49:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>>> IIRC, the Festool has a strobe light. That's a different and useful
>>> idea (i.e. patentable).
>>
>> I have often wondered why a strobe and how that would be useful. Do you
>> know or have a clue? I do know that the latest strobe light Festool
>> jig saw was delayed for sale in the US, IIRC it had something to do with
>> the strobe making the blade appear to be not moving up and down.
>
> Check and see if it stop motions the teeth, would it make possible to
> see a broken tooth? Those Germans tend to engineer thing out to
> infinity.
>
Yes, the saw stop motions the blade.
BUT you can see a broken tooth with the saw turned off.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:49:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>> IIRC, the Festool has a strobe light. That's a different and useful
>> idea (i.e. patentable).
>
>I have often wondered why a strobe and how that would be useful. Do you
>know or have a clue? I do know that the latest strobe light Festool
>jig saw was delayed for sale in the US, IIRC it had something to do with
>the strobe making the blade appear to be not moving up and down.
Check and see if it stop motions the teeth, would it make possible to
see a broken tooth? Those Germans tend to engineer thing out to
infinity.
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:08:24 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:25:04 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:53:31 -0800 (PST)
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I see you are talking about these brand new high faluting jigsaws
>> > with all these fancy dandy luxuries. Wow. My Bosch is about 20
>> > years old now. Good top handle design. These lights and blower
>> > things had not been invented back then.
>>
>> good to know this one comes from good lineage
>>
>> the cordless makita drill and driver have lights and it is a very
>> useful feature
>
>Cordless drills (drills, not drivers) had been invented when I bought my Bosch jigsaw. On drills lights make sense because you can and do drill when you do not have a good site line to what you are drilling. And drill in small enclosed spaces with poor visibility. But jigsaws are usually used where you can see what you are cutting and follow the line. With drills you are laying on your belly with your arm stretched out and drilling a hole or driving a screw. You don't operate jigsaws like that. So lights on jigsaws make just a little more sense than lights on circular saws. Do people want lights on their worm drive Skilsaw?
Sure. All light helps.
On 2016-12-25, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> Understood but really, I know where the teeth are, what difference does
> it make to see the teeth?
Agree.
A strobe light makes little sense. I'd much rather have some sorta
sawdust blower on my blowerless/lightless DeWalt jig saw.
A lotta folks have weighed in on how blowers are of little help. It's
still gotta be better than trying to maintain a wheezing "puff" with my
geezer lungs. ;)
nb
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:57:59 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/27/2016 3:39 PM, Markem wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:49:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> IIRC, the Festool has a strobe light. That's a different and useful
>>>> idea (i.e. patentable).
>>>
>>> I have often wondered why a strobe and how that would be useful. Do you
>>> know or have a clue? I do know that the latest strobe light Festool
>>> jig saw was delayed for sale in the US, IIRC it had something to do with
>>> the strobe making the blade appear to be not moving up and down.
>>
>> Check and see if it stop motions the teeth, would it make possible to
>> see a broken tooth? Those Germans tend to engineer thing out to
>> infinity.
>>
>
>Yes, the saw stop motions the blade.
>
>
>BUT you can see a broken tooth with the saw turned off.
>
Only if it's above the table. ;-)
On 2016-12-23 2:53 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 10:56:46 AM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>> have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
>> but it would really benefit from having a light
>> it would be another
>> useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
>
> I see you are talking about these brand new high faluting jigsaws with all these fancy dandy luxuries. Wow. My Bosch is about 20 years old now. Good top handle design. These lights and blower things had not been invented back then.
>
Mine has a hand crank, if I want a light, there are always candles.
--
Froz....
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:53:31 -0800 (PST)
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I see you are talking about these brand new high faluting jigsaws
> with all these fancy dandy luxuries. Wow. My Bosch is about 20
> years old now. Good top handle design. These lights and blower
> things had not been invented back then.
good to know this one comes from good lineage
the cordless makita drill and driver have lights and it is a very
useful feature
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:08:24 -0800 (PST)
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> don't operate jigsaws like that. So lights on jigsaws make just a
> little more sense than lights on circular saws. Do people want
> lights on their worm drive Skilsaw?
that would be useful also
anything to improve visibility is good
maybe wearing hunting glasses will help
as for blowing the dust they could use the wind coming from
the motor on the jigsaw and from the blade on the skilsaw and
direct it at the leading edge
On 12/24/2016 12:55 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> I'm young, I've got good low-light vision. I don't need much light, but
> a single LED on either side of the blade would be nice when I'm trying to
> freehand a cut. The saw casts a shadow, I cast a shadow, sometimes that
> line gets to be rather dark.
For free hand cutting long lines, the saw needs a laser light to mark
the line. A laser makes it super simple to follow a line for even a
beginner. If you go off the line a tad, it is immediately obvious. All
circular saws should have a laser light.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 24 Dec 2016 18:12:14 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>krw <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 24 Dec 2016 06:00:39 GMT, Puckdropper
>> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>*trim*
>
>>>
>>>If you need to see a line, a blower can be more efficient than trying
>>>to suck the dust away.
>>
>> But then you have to suck it away later. Except for the bigger tail,
>> I find the vacuum much better.
>
>The Bosch blower doesn't have a tail, and only moves the dust just far
>enough away you can see the line. You'll still have to sweep or vacuum
>it up later, but a jigsaw with giant hose would be rather cumbersome.
I haven't tried it but wouldn't automatically discount it. I thought
a vacuum on a router would be cumbersome, too, but it's easier than
cleaning up afterwards.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:49:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/23/2016 7:21 PM, krw wrote:
>> On 23 Dec 2016 19:20:22 GMT, Puckdropper
>> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o3jkti$9p8$3
>>> @dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> have been satsified with my bosch jigsaw
>>>>
>>>> but it would really benefit from having a light
>>>>
>>>> not sure why there is no light
>>>>
>>>> it would not add much to the cost and it would be really helpful
>>>>
>>>> also annoying to have to blow out the dust so it would be another
>>>> useful feature to have a nozzle to blow out the dust
>>>>
>>>> otherwise it is a great tool
>>>>
>>>> the quick blade change is excellent as is the blade angle of cut
>>>> adjustment
>>>>
>>>
>>> Someone must own a patent somewhere... Although I'd consider it obvious
>>> to anyone in the industry: An integrated light shining on the working
>>> area of the tool.
>>
>> IIRC, the Festool has a strobe light. That's a different and useful
>> idea (i.e. patentable).
>
>I have often wondered why a strobe and how that would be useful. Do you
>know or have a clue? I do know that the latest strobe light Festool
>jig saw was delayed for sale in the US, IIRC it had something to do with
>the strobe making the blade appear to be not moving up and down.
Probably because American lawyers will convince juries that a blade
that looks like it's not moving is "dangerous".
I think the idea of the "stopped" blade is that one can see where the
teeth are (they're doing the cutting, after all).