I had a coupon in my pocket and they had one left in stock, for 67
bucks how bad could it be?
Turns out it's not bad at all. Sure, it's cheap and chintzy and you
have to be careful with setup, but it cranked up and ran fine out of
the box and can produce a decent edge fairly quickly. Not a superb
edge mind you, but one that a few passes on a hard arkansas stone can
finish up nicely.
The stone holds a lot of water--I put a small nalgene bottle full in
the tray and the stone emptied it in about 30 seconds (note--I don't
mean it splashed it out, I mean it soaked it up). The second bottle
full filled it to the mark and the level pretty much stayed there.
Overheating the tool is _not_ an issue--the edge is completely
immersed in water the whole time that sharpening is going on.
I put some pictures of of it in operation and of the results at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157608992163168/.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I had a coupon in my pocket and they had one left in stock, for 67
> bucks how bad could it be?
>
> Turns out it's not bad at all. Sure, it's cheap and chintzy and you
> have to be careful with setup, but it cranked up and ran fine out of
> the box and can produce a decent edge fairly quickly. Not a superb
> edge mind you, but one that a few passes on a hard arkansas stone can
> finish up nicely.
>
> The stone holds a lot of water--I put a small nalgene bottle full in
> the tray and the stone emptied it in about 30 seconds (note--I don't
> mean it splashed it out, I mean it soaked it up). The second bottle
> full filled it to the mark and the level pretty much stayed there.
>
> Overheating the tool is _not_ an issue--the edge is completely
> immersed in water the whole time that sharpening is going on.
>
> I put some pictures of of it in operation and of the results at
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157608992163168/.
>
>
Great pictures John. I don't think I have ever been that up close and
personal with a chisel before. :)
That looks like a pretty good unit for the price.
What camera, etc. did you use to take those pictures?
And, what I really want to know is, how did you grind that chisel and take
those close up photos at the same time? And extra arm maybe? :)
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:18:09 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>> I have a version of this:
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=35098
>>> I use it with the Wolverine Grinding Jigs and it does a great job.
>>
>>
>> I bought one of those HF wet grinders. Which Wolverine Grinding Jigs
>> do you have and how do you position it to work with the wet grinding
>> wheel?
>
>This one:
>http://www.oneway.ca/sharpening/grind_jig.htm
>with the skew:
>http://www.oneway.ca/sharpening/skew.htm
>It was all in a prepack from Woodcraft.
>
>You just screw it down to the bench that the grinder is on.
>In the case of that particular HF grinder with the slow-down worm gear,
>you would mount the grinder sideways so the wet wheel is perpendicular
>to the front of the bench.
Thank You. The pictures shows it being used on long lathe chisels. My
question is since the wheel on this model sits higher than normal
grinders do you have to elevate the jig in order to clear the water
trough? Can you use this jig to sharpen short bench chisels? My
grinder is packed away. I could be mistaken but I thought the
direction of rotation was wrong for using the end of the grinder that
is easily accessible?
Got it. Got the new insert on e-bay for $20. A hunk of miter track and
I'll be all set. Looked at the Tormek clone, but they wanted $105 for
it at my store. Hasn't been on sale for a couple of months, according
to the clerk.
-MIKE- wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks, Mike. I'm off to the local HF to see if they have one in stock.
>
>
> Then you won't see this until you get back. :-)
>
> Check under the display shelves. My store didn't have them anywhere in
> sight. It was under the display for those horrible little tile saws and
> whatnot.
>
> Either way, buy it and check it out. They have a very liberal return
> policy. Besides...if you do return it, the next guy who looks at it will
> be thankful that someone who's actually used a tool before, had put it
> together. :-)
>
>
-MIKE- wrote:
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97385
>>> I bought it for 40 bucks, just for giggles to try on my new table. I
>>> was looking for some decent L-angle and some slotted aluminum to
>>> build my own and ran across this thing by accident.
>>>
>>> It's actually really nice and functions very well out of the box
>>> (after a little wax on the sliding stop rods).
>>>
>>>
>> A bit of serendipity here as I'm just about ready to junk my Sears
>> router table in favor of a shop-built table. What's the fence made
>> of? How substantial is the base and is the 90 degree angle true? TIA
>>
>> Larry
>
>
> The L-angle part is 3/32" steel. The extension rods are solid steel. The
> t-tracks sections and stop block are aluminum.
> Mine is perfectly square, as checked with my engineering square.
> I added a couple mods. I added UHMW plastic fences to the front of the
> aluminum fences, because I like plastic ones and to move the fence back
> to accommodate big-ass bits.
> I also added a long piece of aluminum channel (scarfed from a 4ft,
> clamp) to the L-angle, so I could clamp it at the ends of my 36" wide
> table. If you're going to put t-track in your table to clamp the fence
> down, it will work fine with no mods.
>
> So far, I'm very please with its quality and performance.
> I noticed that there is no view of the L-angle portion on the website.
> I'll see if I can take some pics of mine and post them.
>
>
Thanks, Mike. I'm off to the local HF to see if they have one in stock.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I had a coupon in my pocket and they had one left in stock, for 67
> bucks how bad could it be?
>
> Turns out it's not bad at all. Sure, it's cheap and chintzy and you
> have to be careful with setup, but it cranked up and ran fine out of
> the box and can produce a decent edge fairly quickly. Not a superb
> edge mind you, but one that a few passes on a hard arkansas stone can
> finish up nicely.
>
> The stone holds a lot of water--I put a small nalgene bottle full in
> the tray and the stone emptied it in about 30 seconds (note--I don't
> mean it splashed it out, I mean it soaked it up). The second bottle
> full filled it to the mark and the level pretty much stayed there.
>
> Overheating the tool is _not_ an issue--the edge is completely
> immersed in water the whole time that sharpening is going on.
>
> I put some pictures of of it in operation and of the results at
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157608992163168/.
>
There's a pretty good discussion of this unit on this forum. You all might
want to check it out - good reviews and a few tips on tuning it.
http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=41589
For all the reported "issues" with HFT, I find them well worth having
available.
I bought a 15GA finish nailer with a 15% off coupon several weeks ago
only to find LOWES offering the Hitachi for 30 bucks less last week
(prettier, lighter, and better features I thought). I had also
purchased an air file on closeout for about ten bucks that leaked air
and needed to be returned. So I bought the Hitachi (by that time they
were down to $44! and took the HFT nailer and Air file and a 10"
carbide saw blade and a clamp to the HFT in Charlotte yesterday.
No problems what so ever. Full credit for the nail gun on my Visa,
swapped me out a new air file (this one with a box and a set of three
files), swapped out the slippery clamp for a much nicer version they
now carry and the saw blade as well. The new air file works fine and
the three free files doesn't hurt a bit. And, I effectively got a $12
bonus credit as well. I also got a $5 off coupon at the bottom of my
receipt!
If they stand by their stuff like this, why not try and buy and return
if not satisfied?
Next time I have $15 off coupon, I may check this wet/dry grinder
out. Liked the posts and all the links folks added - most hepfull, you
betcha
On Nov 12, 7:46=A0pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I put some pictures of of it in operation and of the results athttp://www=
.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157608992163168/.
Nice review, John. Thanks for taking the time to take the pics and
post them.
I have wondered about that machine, but never had nerve/dough/interest/
need all intersect at the the same time.
I have heard a lot of buzz about that sharpener, but no one really
wants to own up much to proudly using a Harbor Freight item to do
anything.
Like you, I am thinking "for $67, how bad could it be?" If it's not
bad at all, sounds like a winner to me. Even the "cheap" Tormek is
now $350 - $360 or so at Woodcraft these days. And I <think> but
don't <know> but I do believe I had heard from a WC employee that the
Tormek accessories do work this machine, as well as some of the Jet
stuff from their slow speed sharpener.
Did it come with any polishing compound? And just as a note of
interest, can you tell where the actual grinding wheel was made?
Robert
Ray <[email protected]> writes:
> Thank You. The pictures shows it being used on long lathe chisels. My
> question is since the wheel on this model sits higher than normal
> grinders do you have to elevate the jig in order to clear the water
> trough? Can you use this jig to sharpen short bench chisels? My
> grinder is packed away. I could be mistaken but I thought the
> direction of rotation was wrong for using the end of the grinder that
> is easily accessible?
For short bench chisels, you use the Tormek with the bar in the
horizonal position, so the direction is away from the edge.
The water trough is not in the way.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> writes:
> The stone holds a lot of water--I put a small nalgene bottle full in
> the tray and the stone emptied it in about 30 seconds (note--I don't
> mean it splashed it out, I mean it soaked it up).
The Tormek is the same.
I'm 99% sure some of the Tormek attachments are patented.
They also have some slick features.
But I assume one can use Tormek's add-ons on the HF clone.
-MIKE- wrote:
>> I have heard a lot of buzz about that sharpener, but no one really
>> wants to own up much to proudly using a Harbor Freight item to do
>> anything.
>>
>> Robert
>
>
> Harbor Freight is kind of like Radio Shack.
> 80 percent of their stuff is pure crap.
> 10 percent is decent, but needs some modifications to get it great.
> 10 percent is actually great quality.
>
> One example of an item that falls in between those 10 percent
> categories, is their router fence.
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97385
> I bought it for 40 bucks, just for giggles to try on my new table. I
> was looking for some decent L-angle and some slotted aluminum to build
> my own and ran across this thing by accident.
>
> It's actually really nice and functions very well out of the box (after
> a little wax on the sliding stop rods).
>
>
A bit of serendipity here as I'm just about ready to junk my Sears
router table in favor of a shop-built table. What's the fence made of?
How substantial is the base and is the 90 degree angle true? TIA
Larry
Scritch wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I had a coupon in my pocket and they had one left in stock, for 67
>> bucks how bad could it be?
>>
>> Turns out it's not bad at all. Sure, it's cheap and chintzy and you
>> have to be careful with setup, but it cranked up and ran fine out of
>> the box and can produce a decent edge fairly quickly. Not a superb
>> edge mind you, but one that a few passes on a hard arkansas stone can
>> finish up nicely.
>>
>> The stone holds a lot of water--I put a small nalgene bottle full in
>> the tray and the stone emptied it in about 30 seconds (note--I don't
>> mean it splashed it out, I mean it soaked it up). The second bottle
>> full filled it to the mark and the level pretty much stayed there.
>>
>> Overheating the tool is _not_ an issue--the edge is completely
>> immersed in water the whole time that sharpening is going on.
>>
>> I put some pictures of of it in operation and of the results at
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157608992163168/.
>>
>>
>
> So, if you need to make a few passes on your hard Arkansas stone anyway,
> why not get a good grinder with a fairly fine wheel to put a pretty good
> edge on your tools, then make the final passes on the Arkansas stone?
> You already stated that you need to be careful with the setup, so why
> not just be careful when grinding? The dry grinder will be so much more
> versatile because you can put on different stones, and won't cost any
> more than the Tormek clone.
>
Because there's little danger of overheating the steel with a wet grinder?
Greg M
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I had a coupon in my pocket and they had one left in stock, for 67
> bucks how bad could it be?
>
> Turns out it's not bad at all. Sure, it's cheap and chintzy and you
> have to be careful with setup, but it cranked up and ran fine out of
> the box and can produce a decent edge fairly quickly. Not a superb
> edge mind you, but one that a few passes on a hard arkansas stone can
> finish up nicely.
>
> The stone holds a lot of water--I put a small nalgene bottle full in
> the tray and the stone emptied it in about 30 seconds (note--I don't
> mean it splashed it out, I mean it soaked it up). The second bottle
> full filled it to the mark and the level pretty much stayed there.
>
> Overheating the tool is _not_ an issue--the edge is completely
> immersed in water the whole time that sharpening is going on.
>
> I put some pictures of of it in operation and of the results at
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157608992163168/.
>
>
So, if you need to make a few passes on your hard Arkansas stone anyway,
why not get a good grinder with a fairly fine wheel to put a pretty good
edge on your tools, then make the final passes on the Arkansas stone?
You already stated that you need to be careful with the setup, so why
not just be careful when grinding? The dry grinder will be so much more
versatile because you can put on different stones, and won't cost any
more than the Tormek clone.
> I have heard a lot of buzz about that sharpener, but no one really
> wants to own up much to proudly using a Harbor Freight item to do
> anything.
>
> Robert
Harbor Freight is kind of like Radio Shack.
80 percent of their stuff is pure crap.
10 percent is decent, but needs some modifications to get it great.
10 percent is actually great quality.
One example of an item that falls in between those 10 percent
categories, is their router fence.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97385
I bought it for 40 bucks, just for giggles to try on my new table. I
was looking for some decent L-angle and some slotted aluminum to build
my own and ran across this thing by accident.
It's actually really nice and functions very well out of the box (after
a little wax on the sliding stop rods).
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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> Any idea how it would work for turning tools such as bowl gouges?
> I will probably get one just for skews, but it wood/would be nice to freshen the
> edge of bowl gouges on it if practical..
>
>
> mac
>
I have a version of this:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=35098
I use it with the Wolverine Grinding Jigs and it does a great job.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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-MIKE- wrote:
>> Any idea how it would work for turning tools such as bowl gouges?
>> I will probably get one just for skews, but it wood/would be nice
>> to
>> freshen the edge of bowl gouges on it if practical..
>>
>>
>> mac
>>
>
> I have a version of this:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=35098
> I use it with the Wolverine Grinding Jigs and it does a great job.
Out of the box it wouldn't do so well for bowl gouges.
There's a lathe chisel jig
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95329
and a curved chisel jig
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95332
that don't come with it.
Also the Tormek Universal Gouge Jig and the Jet Gouge Jig will in
principle work with it.
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--John
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I took a look at this thing at my local H-F, a few hours ago.
I suggest being very discerning if you decide to buy this thing.
The display model was falling apart.... which is par for the course at
H-F. :-)
Just check out the box and all the parts and make sure it's all ok.
I've noticed at H-F, that there can be a significant in quality for the
same item from box to box, part to part.
The original poster surely did this or else he got a "good apple."
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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>> I have a version of this:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=35098
>> I use it with the Wolverine Grinding Jigs and it does a great job.
>
>
> I bought one of those HF wet grinders. Which Wolverine Grinding Jigs
> do you have and how do you position it to work with the wet grinding
> wheel?
This one:
http://www.oneway.ca/sharpening/grind_jig.htm
with the skew:
http://www.oneway.ca/sharpening/skew.htm
It was all in a prepack from Woodcraft.
You just screw it down to the bench that the grinder is on.
In the case of that particular HF grinder with the slow-down worm gear,
you would mount the grinder sideways so the wet wheel is perpendicular
to the front of the bench.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97385
>> I bought it for 40 bucks, just for giggles to try on my new table. I
>> was looking for some decent L-angle and some slotted aluminum to build
>> my own and ran across this thing by accident.
>>
>> It's actually really nice and functions very well out of the box
>> (after a little wax on the sliding stop rods).
>>
>>
> A bit of serendipity here as I'm just about ready to junk my Sears
> router table in favor of a shop-built table. What's the fence made of?
> How substantial is the base and is the 90 degree angle true? TIA
>
> Larry
The L-angle part is 3/32" steel. The extension rods are solid steel.
The t-tracks sections and stop block are aluminum.
Mine is perfectly square, as checked with my engineering square.
I added a couple mods. I added UHMW plastic fences to the front of the
aluminum fences, because I like plastic ones and to move the fence back
to accommodate big-ass bits.
I also added a long piece of aluminum channel (scarfed from a 4ft,
clamp) to the L-angle, so I could clamp it at the ends of my 36" wide
table. If you're going to put t-track in your table to clamp the fence
down, it will work fine with no mods.
So far, I'm very please with its quality and performance.
I noticed that there is no view of the L-angle portion on the website.
I'll see if I can take some pics of mine and post them.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>>
>>
> Thanks, Mike. I'm off to the local HF to see if they have one in stock.
Then you won't see this until you get back. :-)
Check under the display shelves. My store didn't have them anywhere in
sight. It was under the display for those horrible little tile saws and
whatnot.
Either way, buy it and check it out. They have a very liberal return
policy. Besides...if you do return it, the next guy who looks at it will
be thankful that someone who's actually used a tool before, had put it
together. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>> You just screw it down to the bench that the grinder is on.
>> In the case of that particular HF grinder with the slow-down worm gear,
>> you would mount the grinder sideways so the wet wheel is perpendicular
>> to the front of the bench.
>
> Thank You. The pictures shows it being used on long lathe chisels. My
> question is since the wheel on this model sits higher than normal
> grinders do you have to elevate the jig in order to clear the water
> trough? Can you use this jig to sharpen short bench chisels? My
> grinder is packed away. I could be mistaken but I thought the
> direction of rotation was wrong for using the end of the grinder that
> is easily accessible?
Actually, I elevated the grinder to fit the Wolverine jig under the
center of the wheel. The wheel spins downward on the accessible end.
To be honest, I haven't used it with the water trough. It's a slow
turning wheel (only 160rpm, 180 on newer ones) and I have had any heat
issues. I usually hone my gouges after sharpening, with a wet (for
slurry) piece of 320-400 rolled into a curve.
As for the water trough, I think you could mount the grinder even higher
to clear trough and still be fine. Since we're talking about a round
wheel, you would just slide the jig in or out the get the same angle, to
make up for higher or lower, right?
For what it worth, I also freehand flat chisels and such on the flat
side of the wheel.
I haven't gotten real anal about sharpening, yet, and I'm not an expert
on the theory by any means. But I got pretty sharp for a long time
freehanding everything on a fast grinder and Arkansas Stones. When I
went to the Wolverine jig and the HF slow wheel, it was like using brand
new turning tools every time.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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BTW, here's the reason I bought the thing in the first place:
http://www.mikedrums.com/sandertable.mov
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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TD Driver wrote:
> Got it. Got the new insert on e-bay for $20. A hunk of miter track
> and I'll be all set. Looked at the Tormek clone, but they wanted
> $105 for it at my store. Hasn't been on sale for a couple of
> months,
> according to the clerk.
You need a coupon, which, unfortunately, expired on the 10th. There
should be another one along eventually--they seem to have a coupon for
it fairly often.
Note that Harbor Freight has two Web
sites--http://www.harborfreight.com for direct ordering and
http://www.harborfreightusa.com for the stores. The second site has
an "Extra coupon savings" button that gets you to the current coupons
(I'm not giving a direct link because it changes every week).
> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks, Mike. I'm off to the local HF to see if they have one in
>>> stock.
>>
>>
>> Then you won't see this until you get back. :-)
>>
>> Check under the display shelves. My store didn't have them anywhere
>> in sight. It was under the display for those horrible little tile
>> saws and whatnot.
>>
>> Either way, buy it and check it out. They have a very liberal
>> return
>> policy. Besides...if you do return it, the next guy who looks at it
>> will be thankful that someone who's actually used a tool before,
>> had
>> put it together. :-)
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
DGDevin wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>
>> BTW, here's the reason I bought the thing in the first place:
>>
>> http://www.mikedrums.com/sandertable.mov
>
> I once heard a story from a guy who learned the hard way not to operate
> power tools while standing on a concrete floor with bare feet, apparently it
> was a shocking experience.
>
I figured I'd catch flack for splinters or dropping stuff on my feet. :-)
But electrical shock? Really?
How old was the wiring in that guy's house and did it have a ground?
If he's getting shocked while operating power tools.... he needs some
new tools, not shoes.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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I forgot to mention that there is another 40 percent off in-store coupon,
good thru 11-24-2008, at
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html/wkend1124/usa_cpnsave.html (scroll way
down).
The local Harbor Freight store didn't stock any of the accessory items so
these would apparently need to be ordered online from HF (or use Tormek, Jet
or ? jigs if indeed they fit).
Stone grader and jigs
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95330
'Rough' chisel jig:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95333
'Curved' chisel jig:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95332
Lathe chisel jig:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95329
Scissor jig:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=953321
David Merrill
"David Merrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:yXyVk.389510$TT4.326114@attbi_s22...
> Anyone else's HF 95236, wetstone grinder arrive missing one of the two
> bushings (http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals/95000-95999/95236.pdf part
> number 11, clamp?) from the chisel/plane iron jig ? This results in the
jig
> being a very sloppy fit on the 'tool support' rod. I'd read several
> comments about "poor quality" of the HF jigs and wonder if this was the
> cause. Otherwise, I thought that the overall fabrication quality of
grinder
> and jigs looks pretty good.
>
> I also noted that the user manual makes no mention of the accessory jigs
> shown on the packaging and, notably, no mention of the grinding wheel
'stone
> grader' which is necessary to condition the wheel surface for finish
> grinding prior to honing on the leather wheel. I thought that was the
> unique feature of the Tormek-type wet grinders.
>
> David Merrill
>
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:46:08 -0500, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I had a coupon in my pocket and they had one left in stock, for 67
>bucks how bad could it be?
>
>Turns out it's not bad at all. Sure, it's cheap and chintzy and you
>have to be careful with setup, but it cranked up and ran fine out of
>the box and can produce a decent edge fairly quickly. Not a superb
>edge mind you, but one that a few passes on a hard arkansas stone can
>finish up nicely.
>
>The stone holds a lot of water--I put a small nalgene bottle full in
>the tray and the stone emptied it in about 30 seconds (note--I don't
>mean it splashed it out, I mean it soaked it up). The second bottle
>full filled it to the mark and the level pretty much stayed there.
>
>Overheating the tool is _not_ an issue--the edge is completely
>immersed in water the whole time that sharpening is going on.
>
>I put some pictures of of it in operation and of the results at
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157608992163168/.
>
>
>--
Good review, John..
It appears to have the honing wheel also, is that true?
If so, how did it work?
Any idea how it would work for turning tools such as bowl gouges?
I will probably get one just for skews, but it wood/would be nice to freshen the
edge of bowl gouges on it if practical..
Thanks for taking the time & effort to review it and post some really good
shots..
mac
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:12:00 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> Any idea how it would work for turning tools such as bowl gouges?
>> I will probably get one just for skews, but it wood/would be nice to freshen the
>> edge of bowl gouges on it if practical..
>>
>>
>> mac
>>
>
>I have a version of this:
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=35098
>I use it with the Wolverine Grinding Jigs and it does a great job.
I bought one of those HF wet grinders. Which Wolverine Grinding Jigs
do you have and how do you position it to work with the wet grinding
wheel?
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:16:57 -0500, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
>Out of the box it wouldn't do so well for bowl gouges.
>
>There's a lathe chisel jig
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95329
Thanks, John...
For $30 plus shipping, I think I'll make the jig..
mac
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Anyone else's HF 95236, wetstone grinder arrive missing one of the two
bushings (http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals/95000-95999/95236.pdf part
number 11, clamp?) from the chisel/plane iron jig ? This results in the jig
being a very sloppy fit on the 'tool support' rod. I'd read several
comments about "poor quality" of the HF jigs and wonder if this was the
cause. Otherwise, I thought that the overall fabrication quality of grinder
and jigs looks pretty good.
I also noted that the user manual makes no mention of the accessory jigs
shown on the packaging and, notably, no mention of the grinding wheel 'stone
grader' which is necessary to condition the wheel surface for finish
grinding prior to honing on the leather wheel. I thought that was the
unique feature of the Tormek-type wet grinders.
David Merrill
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On Nov 12, 7:46 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I put some pictures of of it in operation and of the results
athttp://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157608992163168/.
Nice review, John. Thanks for taking the time to take the pics and
post them.
I have wondered about that machine, but never had nerve/dough/interest/
need all intersect at the the same time.
I have heard a lot of buzz about that sharpener, but no one really
wants to own up much to proudly using a Harbor Freight item to do
anything.
Like you, I am thinking "for $67, how bad could it be?" If it's not
bad at all, sounds like a winner to me. Even the "cheap" Tormek is
now $350 - $360 or so at Woodcraft these days. And I <think> but
don't <know> but I do believe I had heard from a WC employee that the
Tormek accessories do work this machine, as well as some of the Jet
stuff from their slow speed sharpener.
Did it come with any polishing compound? And just as a note of
interest, can you tell where the actual grinding wheel was made?
Robert