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Vijay

01/09/2004 5:20 AM

Air Compressor recommendations

I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15
gal.

This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.

I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.

I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an
induction motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at
Pep Boys, that runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.

I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.

So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15
gal) that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on
wheels. Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance


This topic has 14 replies

bR

[email protected] (Rex_flex)

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 9:56 AM

If you are *really* intending to use the compressor as you state,
get a 4 gal. You want something small, easy to move around, and
something that is quick to pump up to 125psi, because you will be
storing it empty.

In any case, get an oil-lubed pump (not oil-less). The oil-lubed
pump is $20 more, but will last 10 times longer and is much quieter.

The big issue is whether you will use this for more extensive tasks
such as spraying or pneumatic tools. In this case, you need to pay attention
to the airflow rate (CFM). For your stated needs, 4CFM is plenty.
Personally, I am very pleased with my Hitachi 4gal 4CFM, which goes
for $240 on Amazon.

Rex

Vijay <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15
> gal.
>
> This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
> tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.
>
> I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.
>
> I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an
> induction motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at
> Pep Boys, that runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.
>
> I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
> Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.
>
> So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15
> gal) that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on
> wheels. Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance

RC

Richard Clements

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 1:23 PM

any one use the alltrade they sell at checker/shucks/krager auto stores?

http://www.partsamerica.com/PartDetails.asp?mfrcode=ALT&mfrpartnumber=830241

it's a hot dog style oil lubed, 3.5hp/5gal any thoughts?

Norm Dresner wrote:

> "Vijay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15
>> gal.
>>
>> This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
>> tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.
>>
>> I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.
>>
>> I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an
>> induction motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at
>> Pep Boys, that runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.
>>
>> I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
>> Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.
>>
>> So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15
>> gal) that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on
>> wheels. Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance
>
> Why do you feel you need that much stored air for filling tires? Because
> you want to charge up the compressor and then take the tank [okay the
> compressor and tank] outside where there's no electrical outlet? Or just
> because that's how much space you have in the shop? Max pressure and CFM
> may be more important for your uses than the size of the tank.
>
> Norm

Vv

Vijay

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

02/09/2004 12:58 AM

Vijay wrote:
> I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15 gal.
>
> This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
> tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.
>
> I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.
>
> I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an
> induction motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at
> Pep Boys, that runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.
>
> I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
> Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.
>
> So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15
> gal) that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on
> wheels. Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance

Thanks everyone for your comments and response. The problem with the
pancake units is that they are all quite heavy (50 lbs or more) that
makes moving them not too easy, thus the wheels. I have looked at the
Porter Cable 4 gal weighs 65 lbs, the Hitachi at about 50 lbs--you get
the picture they are all heavy. The light ones are 1 or 2 gallons
--they are oiless usually and I suspect I might long for a slight more
capacity.
Thanks to everyone for their helpful comments.

Vv

Vijay

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

02/09/2004 3:39 AM

Richard Clements wrote:

> any one use the alltrade they sell at checker/shucks/krager auto stores?
>
> http://www.partsamerica.com/PartDetails.asp?mfrcode=ALT&mfrpartnumber=830241
>
> it's a hot dog style oil lubed, 3.5hp/5gal any thoughts?

I have been eyeing that on every Sunday's sales flyer, for the price it
seems a steal, except it too is quite heavy and without wheels.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 2:35 PM


"Vijay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15 gal.
>
> This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
> tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.

For that purpose, 2 gallons will be fine.

> I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.

2 gallons will be fine.

>
> I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an induction
> motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at Pep Boys, that
> runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.

To cut down on oil you also want to look for an oil lubricated compressor
vs. an oilless.

>
> I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
> Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.

The oiless contributed a lot of the noise.


> So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15 gal)
> that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on wheels.
> Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 3:23 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Vijay <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15
>gal.
>
>This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
>tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.
>
>I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.
>
>I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an
>induction motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at
>Pep Boys, that runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.
>
>I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
>Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.
>
>So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15
>gal) that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on
>wheels. Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance

For what you want it for, most any small compressor including the
compact "pancake tank" units will do. But if you want to step up in
output a little, and I can't vouch for reliabliity, Harbor Freight has
a 21 gallon vertical unit for $170 or so that has impressive specs, 11
cfm @40 psi, enough to do some painting if you want. It's their item
#47085. Again, I've seen the unit and it looks OK, but have no
experience actually using it and can't comment on it's longevity.
--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

gG

in reply to [email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman) on 01/09/2004 3:23 PM

01/09/2004 4:20 PM

The oilless CH I have is so loud I can hear it running in the house with the
A/C on and it is in a detached garage. It works OK but wear hearing protection
if you have to stand close to it.

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 5:46 PM

patrick conroy wrote:
>> I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15
>> gal.
>>
>> This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
>> tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.
>
> I do such activities with my 2gal pancake from Porter Cable.
> Why so big?


I use a pancake for that also and haven't found it inadequate. Mine's a Bostich
and even though I was warned about teflon lubed compressors vs oil lubed, I
don't think the noise is a real factor either.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 4:36 PM

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 05:20:02 GMT, Vijay <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15
>gal.
>
>This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
>tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.
>
>I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.
>
>I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an
>induction motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at
>Pep Boys, that runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.
>
>I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
>Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.
>
>So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15
>gal) that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on
>wheels. Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance


I use a portable tank to fill my tires--works great, and without any
noise. An oiless is cheaper, but with more noise. I'd advise a
pancake or hotdog style compressor. I like Campbell Hausfeld (I have
an extreme duty 25 gal 6HP).

CS

"Charles Spitzer"

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 10:23 AM


"Lawrence Wasserman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Vijay <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15
> >gal.
> >
> >This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
> >tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.
> >
> >I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.
> >
> >I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an
> >induction motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at
> >Pep Boys, that runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.
> >
> >I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
> >Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.
> >
> >So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15
> >gal) that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on
> >wheels. Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance
>
> For what you want it for, most any small compressor including the
> compact "pancake tank" units will do. But if you want to step up in
> output a little, and I can't vouch for reliabliity, Harbor Freight has
> a 21 gallon vertical unit for $170 or so that has impressive specs, 11
> cfm @40 psi, enough to do some painting if you want. It's their item
> #47085. Again, I've seen the unit and it looks OK, but have no
> experience actually using it and can't comment on it's longevity.
> --
>
> Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
> [email protected]
>

i have this one, and i can't recommend it. it went out on me in 6 months. 3
month warrantee. parts are non-existent, and have to come from overseas from
the manufacturer. they're only available in months beginning in q, x, or z.

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 7:48 PM

On 1 Sep 2004 09:56:51 -0700, [email protected] (Rex_flex) wrote:


>The big issue is whether you will use this for more extensive tasks
>such as spraying or pneumatic tools. In this case, you need to pay attention
>to the airflow rate (CFM). For your stated needs, 4CFM is plenty.
>Personally, I am very pleased with my Hitachi 4gal 4CFM, which goes
>for $240 on Amazon.


I have this kit:
<http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/port/cffn250n.htm?L+coastest+rhnm5678ff2d6b2d+1094102518>

The compressor will do all the things you want, the nail guns are fun,
too! <G> I added a quick connect between the output and regulator.
To this QC, I can quickly splice in an 11 gallon storage tank. With
the extra tank, the unit works fine with small spray guns.

I've seen the compressor alone for about $140.

Barry

JB

Jim Behning

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

05/09/2004 1:21 AM

I have 200 feet of airhose. 20 gallon compressor which weighs over a
hundred pounds is not too heavy when it stays in the garage. I get out
the oiless 50 lb. Thomas T-30A when we go out to camp to blow the
water out of the trailer or when palying trim carpenter. 50 lbs is the
weight of a small child. My 80 year old dad on his third pacemaker
lifts up that compressor. Well he could when he was on pacemaker2 last
fall. I am not sure about this year. I may have to accompany him to
camp. That Thomas is a bit noisy. I wear hearing protection when I use
it but I would anyway shooting nail guns.


Vijay <[email protected]> wrote:

>Vijay wrote:
>> I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15 gal.
>>
>> This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
>> tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.
>>
>> I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.
>>
>> I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an
>> induction motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at
>> Pep Boys, that runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.
>>
>> I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
>> Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.
>>
>> So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15
>> gal) that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on
>> wheels. Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance
>
>Thanks everyone for your comments and response. The problem with the
>pancake units is that they are all quite heavy (50 lbs or more) that
>makes moving them not too easy, thus the wheels. I have looked at the
>Porter Cable 4 gal weighs 65 lbs, the Hitachi at about 50 lbs--you get
>the picture they are all heavy. The light ones are 1 or 2 gallons
>--they are oiless usually and I suspect I might long for a slight more
>capacity.
>Thanks to everyone for their helpful comments.

Laura Behning
Brookridge Morgans
http://www.mindspring.com/~morgans/Laura.htm
SILVER DAPPLE MORGANS!
http://colormorgans.tripod.com/silvermorgans.htm

ND

"Norm Dresner"

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 1:20 PM

"Vijay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15
> gal.
>
> This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
> tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.
>
> I do not intend to use it for sanding, painting and such activities.
>
> I would like a vertical unit on wheels, preferably powered by an
> induction motor. I made the mistake of buying a Coleman 11 gallon at
> Pep Boys, that runs on a universal motor that screams like a shop vac.
>
> I promptly took it back, even though I liked everything else about it.
> Yeah I know it is an oiless, but for my infrequent use that is ok.
>
> So are there any recommndations for a compressor not too big (4 to 15
> gal) that is powered by an induction motor that is vertical and on
> wheels. Also sources or where to buy. Thanks in advance

Why do you feel you need that much stored air for filling tires? Because
you want to charge up the compressor and then take the tank [okay the
compressor and tank] outside where there's no electrical outlet? Or just
because that's how much space you have in the shop? Max pressure and CFM
may be more important for your uses than the size of the tank.

Norm

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to Vijay on 01/09/2004 5:20 AM

01/09/2004 3:12 PM


"Vijay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I am looking got buy a compressor probably in the range of 4 gal to 15
> gal.
>
> This will be used for the usual homeowner tasks such as filling bicycle
> tires, air mattresses and an occasional nailer.

I do such activities with my 2gal pancake from Porter Cable.
Why so big?


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