I went to Home Desperate today to pickup up some ply, some mdf and
hardboard.
I needed the ply for my case work. it was priced reasonably.
The MDF ... OMG to coin the kids phrase... Last year I paid 19 for MDF.
It is now $29.90... What the hey. I wanted to make a sound enclosure so
I wanted the density of MDF. The sanded pine 23/32 was only $24.. Why
did MDF skyrocket? It's crap sawdust that's glued together
On Dec 14, 6:21=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/14/10 4:51 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14, 5:35 pm, tiredofspam<nospam.nospam.com> =A0wrote:
> >> I went to Home Desperate today to pickup up some ply, some mdf and
> >> hardboard.
>
> >> I needed the ply for my case work. it was priced reasonably.
>
> >> The MDF ... OMG to coin the kids phrase... Last year I paid 19 for MDF=
.
> >> It is now $29.90... What the hey. =A0I wanted to make a sound enclosur=
e so
> >> I wanted the density of MDF. The sanded pine 23/32 was only $24.. Why
> >> did MDF skyrocket? It's crap sawdust that's glued together
>
> > Freight costs. Shit's heavy.
>
> They ship it in shit.
>
> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
It _is_shit
On Dec 17, 9:28=A0am, Mark Whittingham <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 12:58=A0am, "www.Towood.com- MDF importers" <abc
>
>
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:6ff141a6-b2be-4554-9e49-119e931f3185@r16g2000prh.googlegroups.com..=
.
>
> > > On Dec 14, 6:05 pm, "http://www.Towood.com/-Import MDF" <abc+mdf-
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Snip
>
> > >> quality MDF
> > > =A0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > > ???? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>
> > > Luigi
>
> > I mean: generally speaking, the higher the quality of MDF, the lighter =
the
> > color of MDF and the less dross or impurity in the wood fibers for the =
MDF.
>
> Source, please. =A0And for certain applications, mdf is simply
> fabulous. =A0IMNSHO.
>
> JP
I have a friend working in MDF factory, he told me . But the color of
MDF is only one of many quality factors.
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http://www.Towood.com/ - exporting MDF, OSB and buy fiber board
On Dec 15, 12:58=A0am, "www.Towood.com - MDF importers" <abc
[email protected]> wrote:
> "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:6ff141a6-b2be-4554-9e49-119e931f3185@r16g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 14, 6:05 pm, "http://www.Towood.com/- Import MDF" <abc+mdf-
> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Snip
>
> >> quality MDF
> > =A0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > ???? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>
> > Luigi
>
> I mean: generally speaking, the higher the quality of MDF, the lighter th=
e
> color of MDF and the less dross or impurity in the wood fibers for the MD=
F.
Source, please. And for certain applications, mdf is simply
fabulous. IMNSHO.
JP
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:39:30 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark Whittingham wrote:
>
>>
>> Source, please. And for certain applications, mdf is simply
>> fabulous. IMNSHO.
>>
>
>I agree. I can think of few things that I'd rather fill a hole in the
>ground with than MDF. Or - anything better to piss on.
Acoustically, they're better in speakers than real wood.
That's my only kudo for termite barf.
Particle board sucks the big one, and I haven't yet tried any MDO.
I've toyed with hardwood-veneered MDF, and it pretty much sucks, too.
--
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-- Demosthenes
On Dec 14, 6:05=A0pm, "http://www.Towood.com/ - Import MDF" <abc+mdf-
[email protected]> wrote:
Snip
> quality MDF
^^^^^^^^^^^^
???? Isn't that an oxymoron?
Luigi
A $10 per sheet increase That's ridiculous.
On 12/14/2010 5:51 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Dec 14, 5:35 pm, tiredofspam<nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>> I went to Home Desperate today to pickup up some ply, some mdf and
>> hardboard.
>>
>> I needed the ply for my case work. it was priced reasonably.
>>
>> The MDF ... OMG to coin the kids phrase... Last year I paid 19 for MDF.
>> It is now $29.90... What the hey. I wanted to make a sound enclosure so
>> I wanted the density of MDF. The sanded pine 23/32 was only $24.. Why
>> did MDF skyrocket? It's crap sawdust that's glued together
>
> Freight costs. Shit's heavy.
Towood.com - Export MDF wrote:
>
>
> Usually, if the price difference is big, the quality will not be the
> same. I think they are two different quality .
> Please check the quality factors and specifications for MDF, which are
> helpful for you to check whether they are the same quality:
> Wood species;
> Formaldehyde emission class;
> Glue type;
> Rates of moisture proof;
> Color of MDF (usually dark color MDF is cheaper);
> Density;
> Thickness & size.
>
Is the dark stuff made from the bark?
Mark Whittingham wrote:
>
> Source, please. And for certain applications, mdf is simply
> fabulous. IMNSHO.
>
I agree. I can think of few things that I'd rather fill a hole in the
ground with than MDF. Or - anything better to piss on.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Dec 14, 6:53=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/14/10 5:47 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 14, 6:21 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> On 12/14/10 4:51 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> >>> On Dec 14, 5:35 pm, tiredofspam<nospam.nospam.com> =A0 =A0wrote:
> >>>> I went to Home Desperate today to pickup up some ply, some mdf and
> >>>> hardboard.
>
> >>>> I needed the ply for my case work. it was priced reasonably.
>
> >>>> The MDF ... OMG to coin the kids phrase... Last year I paid 19 for M=
DF.
> >>>> It is now $29.90... What the hey. =A0I wanted to make a sound enclos=
ure so
> >>>> I wanted the density of MDF. The sanded pine 23/32 was only $24.. Wh=
y
> >>>> did MDF skyrocket? It's crap sawdust that's glued together
>
> >>> Freight costs. Shit's heavy.
>
> >> They ship it in shit.
>
> > It _is_shit
>
> I thought it was vomit.
Termite puke, to be precise.
Luigi
On Dec 14, 5:35=A0pm, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
> I went to Home Desperate today to pickup up some ply, some mdf and
> hardboard.
>
> I needed the ply for my case work. it was priced reasonably.
>
> The MDF ... OMG to coin the kids phrase... Last year I paid 19 for MDF.
> It is now $29.90... What the hey. =A0I wanted to make a sound enclosure s=
o
> I wanted the density of MDF. The sanded pine 23/32 was only $24.. Why
> did MDF skyrocket? It's crap sawdust that's glued together
Freight costs. Shit's heavy.
On Dec 16, 8:50=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:39:30 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Mark Whittingham wrote:
>
> >> Source, please. =A0And for certain applications, mdf is simply
> >> fabulous. =A0IMNSHO.
>
> >I agree. =A0I can think of few things that I'd rather fill a hole in the
> >ground with than MDF. =A0Or - anything better to piss on.
>
> Acoustically, they're better in speakers than real wood.
> That's my only kudo for termite barf.
> Particle board sucks the big one, and I haven't yet tried any MDO.
> I've toyed with hardwood-veneered MDF, and it pretty much sucks, too.
MDO is great. It's G1S exterior plywood with a waterproof paper &
resin (?) overlay. Used mainly for outdoor signs & it's quite smooth.
If you need a durable flat surface outside, it's perfect.
I have used it as the table/stand for my chop saw, which usually stays
outside in our Yukon banana belt climate (the saw itself gets covered
in plastic). It's still in perfect shape after 5-6 years (IIRC) other
than a couple of screw holes where the screws have rusted.
Luigi
On Dec 18, 2:27=A0am, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 16, 8:50=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:39:30 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >Mark Whittingham wrote:
>
> > >> Source, please. =A0And for certain applications, mdf is simply
> > >> fabulous. =A0IMNSHO.
>
> > >I agree. =A0I can think of few things that I'd rather fill a hole in t=
he
> > >ground with than MDF. =A0Or - anything better to piss on.
>
> > Acoustically, they're better in speakers than real wood.
> > That's my only kudo for termite barf.
> > Particle board sucks the big one, and I haven't yet tried any MDO.
> > I've toyed with hardwood-veneered MDF, and it pretty much sucks, too.
>
> MDO is great. It's G1S exterior plywood with a waterproof paper &
> resin (?) overlay. Used mainly for outdoor signs & it's quite smooth.
> If you need a durable flat surface outside, it's perfect.
>
> I have used it as the table/stand for my chop saw, which usually stays
> outside in our Yukon banana belt climate (the saw itself gets covered
> in plastic). It's still in perfect shape after 5-6 years (IIRC) other
> than a couple of screw holes where the screws have rusted.
>
> Luigi
Yes, MDO is perfect . MDO is the abbreviation of "Medium Density
Overlay" . It's thin resin impregnated paper usually pressed onto
PLYWOOD . As far as I know, MDO can also be painted . MDO is the good
material for woodworking, furniture, signs. Someone also told me it
can be used as form work panel. But it's much more expensive.
---------
http://www.Towood.com/ - Export MDF fiber board & Supplier of MDO
Plywood
On 12/14/10 4:51 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Dec 14, 5:35 pm, tiredofspam<nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>> I went to Home Desperate today to pickup up some ply, some mdf and
>> hardboard.
>>
>> I needed the ply for my case work. it was priced reasonably.
>>
>> The MDF ... OMG to coin the kids phrase... Last year I paid 19 for MDF.
>> It is now $29.90... What the hey. I wanted to make a sound enclosure so
>> I wanted the density of MDF. The sanded pine 23/32 was only $24.. Why
>> did MDF skyrocket? It's crap sawdust that's glued together
>
> Freight costs. Shit's heavy.
They ship it in shit.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>>> The MDF ... OMG to coin the kids phrase... Last year I paid 19 for MDF.
>>> It is now $29.90... What the hey. I wanted to make a sound enclosure so
>>> I wanted the density of MDF. The sanded pine 23/32 was only $24.. Why
>>> did MDF skyrocket? It's crap sawdust that's glued together
Be glad you don't require "Formaldehyde-free" product or you'd have add
at least 50% more to the higher price--and be thankful you could get it!
"tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I went to Home Desperate today to pickup up some ply, some mdf and
> hardboard.
>
> I needed the ply for my case work. it was priced reasonably.
>
> The MDF ... OMG to coin the kids phrase... Last year I paid 19 for MDF.
> It is now $29.90... What the hey. I wanted to make a sound enclosure so I
> wanted the density of MDF. The sanded pine 23/32 was only $24.. Why did
> MDF skyrocket? It's crap sawdust that's glued together
Usually, if the price difference is big, the quality will not be the same.
I think they are two different quality .
Please check the quality factors and specifications for MDF, which are
helpful for you to check whether they are the same quality:
Wood species;
Formaldehyde emission class;
Glue type;
Rates of moisture proof;
Color of MDF (usually dark color MDF is cheaper);
Density;
Thickness & size.
---------
http://www.Towood.com/ - MDF exporters and fiber board importers
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:27:51 -0800 (PST), Luigi Zanasi
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Dec 16, 8:50 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:39:30 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Mark Whittingham wrote:
>>
>> >> Source, please. And for certain applications, mdf is simply
>> >> fabulous. IMNSHO.
>>
>> >I agree. I can think of few things that I'd rather fill a hole in the
>> >ground with than MDF. Or - anything better to piss on.
>>
>> Acoustically, they're better in speakers than real wood.
>> That's my only kudo for termite barf.
>> Particle board sucks the big one, and I haven't yet tried any MDO.
>> I've toyed with hardwood-veneered MDF, and it pretty much sucks, too.
>
>MDO is great. It's G1S exterior plywood with a waterproof paper &
>resin (?) overlay. Used mainly for outdoor signs & it's quite smooth.
>If you need a durable flat surface outside, it's perfect.
Phenolic resins. http://tinyurl.com/36esadt
I also looked up G1S, a term I had never heard. Good one side. We know
it down here as ACX, or A quality front side, C quality back, and
exterior glue.
http://www.canply.org/english/products/dfp/dfp_sanded_g1s.htm
>I have used it as the table/stand for my chop saw, which usually stays
>outside in our Yukon banana belt climate (the saw itself gets covered
>in plastic). It's still in perfect shape after 5-6 years (IIRC) other
>than a couple of screw holes where the screws have rusted.
That's a good test climate.
--
The art of life lies in a constant readjustment to our surroundings.
-- Okakura Kakuzo
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Towood.com - Export MDF wrote:
>>
>>
>> Usually, if the price difference is big, the quality will not be the
>> same. I think they are two different quality .
>> Please check the quality factors and specifications for MDF, which are
>> helpful for you to check whether they are the same quality:
>> Wood species;
>> Formaldehyde emission class;
>> Glue type;
>> Rates of moisture proof;
>> Color of MDF (usually dark color MDF is cheaper);
>> Density;
>> Thickness & size.
>>
>
> Is the dark stuff made from the bark?
Dark MDF is also made from wood fibers . But wood fibers of darker MDF
contain a little more dross or impurity (like bark, rotten fiber,dust...).
The fibers for quality MDF contain less dross or impurity. So quality MDF
has a lighter color.
---------
http://www.Towood.com/ - export leads of MDF and buy fiber board
On 12/14/10 5:47 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Dec 14, 6:21 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 12/14/10 4:51 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 14, 5:35 pm, tiredofspam<nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> I went to Home Desperate today to pickup up some ply, some mdf and
>>>> hardboard.
>>
>>>> I needed the ply for my case work. it was priced reasonably.
>>
>>>> The MDF ... OMG to coin the kids phrase... Last year I paid 19 for MDF.
>>>> It is now $29.90... What the hey. I wanted to make a sound enclosure so
>>>> I wanted the density of MDF. The sanded pine 23/32 was only $24.. Why
>>>> did MDF skyrocket? It's crap sawdust that's glued together
>>
>>> Freight costs. Shit's heavy.
>>
>> They ship it in shit.
>>
>
> It _is_shit
I thought it was vomit.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:6ff141a6-b2be-4554-9e49-119e931f3185@r16g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 6:05 pm, "http://www.Towood.com/ - Import MDF" <abc+mdf-
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Snip
>
>> quality MDF
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> ???? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>
> Luigi
>
I mean: generally speaking, the higher the quality of MDF, the lighter the
color of MDF and the less dross or impurity in the wood fibers for the MDF.
---------
http://www.Towood.com/ - export leads of MDF and buy fiber board
Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> On Dec 16, 8:50 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:39:30 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Mark Whittingham wrote:
>>
>> >> Source, please. And for certain applications, mdf is simply
>> >> fabulous. IMNSHO.
>>
>> >I agree. I can think of few things that I'd rather fill a hole in the
>> >ground with than MDF. Or - anything better to piss on.
>>
>> Acoustically, they're better in speakers than real wood.
>> That's my only kudo for termite barf.
>> Particle board sucks the big one, and I haven't yet tried any MDO.
>> I've toyed with hardwood-veneered MDF, and it pretty much sucks, too.
>
> MDO is great. It's G1S exterior plywood with a waterproof paper &
> resin (?) overlay. Used mainly for outdoor signs & it's quite smooth.
> If you need a durable flat surface outside, it's perfect.
>
> I have used it as the table/stand for my chop saw, which usually stays
> outside in our Yukon banana belt climate (the saw itself gets covered
> in plastic). It's still in perfect shape after 5-6 years (IIRC) other
> than a couple of screw holes where the screws have rusted.
>
> Luigi
MDF machines well to.
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