JD

John Doe

02/07/2013 6:35 PM

How to hold a 1" OD x 2" long dowel in a drill?

How to hold a 1" OD x 2" long dowel in a drill?

Would it fit snugly inside of a 1 inch hole cutter?

How else can you hold a 1 inch diameter dowel in the jaws of a 1/2
inch chuck drill?

Thanks.


This topic has 22 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

04/07/2013 12:56 PM

In article <[email protected]>, John Doe
<[email protected]> wrote:

> BTW, since you must know so much about lathes...
>
> How exactly would you attach a 1" OD x 2" long dowel to a lathe,
> so that you can cut a well-centered 1/4" diameter x 1" long hole
> into the other end?

I'd clamp it in the chuck of my lathe, with a drill chuck and bit in
the tailstock.

Done it before.

--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

05/07/2013 11:28 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> That is a very short barrel to drill. Lathes bore barrels.
>
> Martin

Which means not a lot of wobble.

I would have no problem producing the piece here. General International
25-200M1 lathe, Talon chuck.

--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 2:01 PM


>
> > Center drill
>
>
>
> Is that used for drilling a well-centered hole in a spinning piece of
>
> wood? I will look, thanks for the keyword.
>
Try googling "Lathe"

ww

whit3rd

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

03/07/2013 6:05 PM

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:46:42 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:

> How exactly would you attach a 1" OD x 2" long dowel to a lathe,
> so that you can cut a well-centered 1/4" diameter x 1" long hole
> into the other end?

Oh, if that's all you want, just fasten a wood block to your drillpress
table, drill/bore a 1" hole in it, then fit the dowel into the
hole and run any kind of drill you want, right down the axis.

This requires that you keep the drill press fittings clamped, of course.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

03/07/2013 9:32 AM

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:12:54 PM UTC-7, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> John Doe <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> John Doe <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >>>"SonomaProducts.com" <bwx200 yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> > Center drill
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> Is that used for drilling a well-centered hole in a spinning
>
> >>>>> piece of
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> wood? I will look, thanks for the keyword.
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>> Try googling "Lathe"
>
> >>>
>
> >>>BTW, since you must know so much about lathes...
>
> >>>
>
> >>>How exactly would you attach a 1" OD x 2" long dowel to a lathe,
>
> >>>so that you can cut a well-centered 1/4" diameter x 1" long hole
>
> >>>into the other end?
>
> >>
>
> >> mount it between centers, use a hollow tail center and drill baby
>
> >drill.
>
> >>
>
> >> chuck it in a face chuck
>
> >
>
> >How do you get the dowel centered in the chuck?
>
>
>
> That is what a chuck _does_.
>
>
>
> http://chestofbooks.com/crafts/mechanics/Mechanical-Processes/images/Fig-176-Lathe-Chuck.jpg
>
>
>
> Anything mounted in the face chuck correctly at the head stock will be centered from the perspective
>
> of the tail stock.
>
>
>
> It will be more accurate if one mounts between centers, turn to make uniform,
>
> then use a lamp boring bit to bore through a hollow tail center. This also allows custom O.D.
>
>
>
> http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/ProductImages/turningtools/141910.jpg
>
> http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=lathes-acc-lnghlbrng-hlotl

Scott provides a few methods and shows that using the right tool will give you several options. Lets discuss how we would do this starting with a square block. Or Google lathe and do some reading. ;^)

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 10:12 PM

John Doe <[email protected]> writes:
>[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>
>> John Doe <[email protected]> writes:
>>>"SonomaProducts.com" <bwx200 yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Center drill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that used for drilling a well-centered hole in a spinning
>>>>> piece of
>>>>>
>>>>> wood? I will look, thanks for the keyword.
>>>>>
>>>> Try googling "Lathe"
>>>
>>>BTW, since you must know so much about lathes...
>>>
>>>How exactly would you attach a 1" OD x 2" long dowel to a lathe,
>>>so that you can cut a well-centered 1/4" diameter x 1" long hole
>>>into the other end?
>>
>> mount it between centers, use a hollow tail center and drill baby
>drill.
>>
>> chuck it in a face chuck
>
>How do you get the dowel centered in the chuck?

That is what a chuck _does_.

http://chestofbooks.com/crafts/mechanics/Mechanical-Processes/images/Fig-176-Lathe-Chuck.jpg

Anything mounted in the face chuck correctly at the head stock will be centered from the perspective
of the tail stock.

It will be more accurate if one mounts between centers, turn to make uniform,
then use a lamp boring bit to bore through a hollow tail center. This also allows custom O.D.

http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/ProductImages/turningtools/141910.jpg
http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=lathes-acc-lnghlbrng-hlotl

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 4:07 PM

John Doe wrote:
> How to hold a 1" OD x 2" long dowel in a drill?
>
> Would it fit snugly inside of a 1 inch hole cutter?
>
> How else can you hold a 1 inch diameter dowel in the jaws of a 1/2
> inch chuck drill?
>
> Thanks.
You could drill a small hole in the center and chuck a headless screw
in the drill to screw into the hole. It may well wobble while
spinning. A lathe would be nice, but sometimes you do what you have
to do with what you have.

--
 GW Ross 

 'Bother,' said Pooh as he disposed of 
 Piglet's body. 





sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 9:55 PM

John Doe <[email protected]> writes:
>"SonomaProducts.com" <bwx200 yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> > Center drill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is that used for drilling a well-centered hole in a spinning
>>> piece of
>>>
>>> wood? I will look, thanks for the keyword.
>>>
>> Try googling "Lathe"
>
>BTW, since you must know so much about lathes...
>
>How exactly would you attach a 1" OD x 2" long dowel to a lathe,
>so that you can cut a well-centered 1/4" diameter x 1" long hole
>into the other end?

mount it between centers, use a hollow tail center and drill baby drill.

chuck it in a face chuck, mount drill chuck in tail.

scott

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 6:41 PM

John Doe wrote:
> This probably will do...
>
> Secure a block of wood in a drill press. Drill a 1 inch hole into it.
> Stick the 1 inch dowel into the hole and drill through the center.

So how will that "shave down" the outside diameter?

--
 GW Ross 

 'Bother,' said Pooh as he disposed of 
 Piglet's body. 





ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

04/07/2013 10:33 PM

That is a very short barrel to drill. Lathes bore barrels.

Martin

On 7/4/2013 1:56 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, John Doe
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> BTW, since you must know so much about lathes...
>>
>> How exactly would you attach a 1" OD x 2" long dowel to a lathe,
>> so that you can cut a well-centered 1/4" diameter x 1" long hole
>> into the other end?
>
> I'd clamp it in the chuck of my lathe, with a drill chuck and bit in
> the tailstock.
>
> Done it before.
>

ww

whit3rd

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

03/07/2013 5:54 PM

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:35:32 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
> How to hold a 1" OD x 2" long dowel in a drill?

Make a pot chuck.

> Would it fit snugly inside of a 1 inch hole cutter?
>
Yeah, that's the idea; the chuck of most power drills
is mounted on a (for instance) 3/8"-24tpi threaded
shaft. You can build a fitting that goes onto that
shaft, that engages the 1" dowel.

It takes a lathe, and some patience, though.
Some cheap holesaws use a driven disc with concentric
circle grooves, you could fairly easily mount some kind
of suitable chuck on such a disk; do you have
a small-ish lathe step-jaw chuck handy?

dn

dpb

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 1:52 PM

On 7/2/2013 1:35 PM, John Doe wrote:
> How to hold a 1" OD x 2" long dowel in a drill?
>
> Would it fit snugly inside of a 1 inch hole cutter?

Very... :) since the OD of the holesaw (I presume you mean) is 1" and
the ID is that minus thickness of the wall--probably 3/64" or slightly
thinner.

> How else can you hold a 1 inch diameter dowel in the jaws of a 1/2
> inch chuck drill?

For what purpose? Spinning it, I presume, but against what loading?

Center drill for a smaller dowel?

Hot glue a dowel?

--

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 7:15 PM

dpb <none non.net> wrote:

> Center drill

Is that used for drilling a well-centered hole in a spinning piece of
wood? I will look, thanks for the keyword.

Yes, I want to put a 1 inch diameter dowel in the chuck of a drill,
and drill a well-centered hole into it.

After that, I'm going to use that hole to turn it in a drill, to
shave a little bit off of the outer diameter.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 3:22 PM

On 7/2/13 1:35 PM, John Doe wrote:
> How to hold a 1" OD x 2" long dowel in a drill?
>
> Would it fit snugly inside of a 1 inch hole cutter?
>
> How else can you hold a 1 inch diameter dowel in the jaws of a 1/2
> inch chuck drill?
>
> Thanks.
>

Glue a 1/2" dowel to the end of the 1" dowel, chuck the 1/2" dowel.
Drill 1/2" hole into end and insert/glue 1/2" dowel into hole, chuck
1/2" dowel.
Drill and insert a hanger bolt, with the machine threads out, chuck the
machine threads.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 3:23 PM

On 7/2/13 1:35 PM, John Doe wrote:
> How to hold a 1" OD x 2" long dowel in a drill?
>
> Would it fit snugly inside of a 1 inch hole cutter?
>
> How else can you hold a 1 inch diameter dowel in the jaws of a 1/2
> inch chuck drill?
>
> Thanks.
>

Glue a 1/2" dowel to the end of the 1" dowel, chuck the 1/2" dowel.
Drill 1/2" hole into end and insert/glue 1/2" dowel into hole, chuck
1/2" dowel.
Drill and insert a hanger bolt, with the machine threads out, chuck the
machine threads.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 9:09 PM

"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>>
>> > Center drill
>>
>>
>>
>> Is that used for drilling a well-centered hole in a spinning piece of
>>
>> wood? I will look, thanks for the keyword.
>>
> Try googling "Lathe"

Try a different thread

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 9:46 PM

"SonomaProducts.com" <bwx200 yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>>
>> > Center drill
>>
>>
>>
>> Is that used for drilling a well-centered hole in a spinning
>> piece of
>>
>> wood? I will look, thanks for the keyword.
>>
> Try googling "Lathe"

BTW, since you must know so much about lathes...

How exactly would you attach a 1" OD x 2" long dowel to a lathe,
so that you can cut a well-centered 1/4" diameter x 1" long hole
into the other end?

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 9:54 PM

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

> John Doe <[email protected]> writes:
>>"SonomaProducts.com" <bwx200 yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Center drill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is that used for drilling a well-centered hole in a spinning
>>>> piece of
>>>>
>>>> wood? I will look, thanks for the keyword.
>>>>
>>> Try googling "Lathe"
>>
>>BTW, since you must know so much about lathes...
>>
>>How exactly would you attach a 1" OD x 2" long dowel to a lathe,
>>so that you can cut a well-centered 1/4" diameter x 1" long hole
>>into the other end?
>
> mount it between centers, use a hollow tail center and drill baby
drill.
>
> chuck it in a face chuck

How do you get the dowel centered in the chuck?







>, mount drill chuck in tail.
>
> scott
>

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 9:56 PM

This probably will do...

Secure a block of wood in a drill press. Drill a 1 inch hole into it.
Stick the 1 inch dowel into the hole and drill through the center.

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

02/07/2013 10:57 PM

"G. Ross" <gwr95 comwest.net> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:

>> This probably will do...
>>
>> Secure a block of wood in a drill press. Drill a 1 inch hole
>> into it. Stick the 1 inch dowel into the hole and drill through
>> the center.
>
> So how will that "shave down" the outside diameter?

By using the centered hole for a shank.

If it works... Both the hole and the shaved outer diameter will be
used in my project.




--
Thanks to the replies.

lL

[email protected] (Larry W)

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

03/07/2013 1:42 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>BTW, since you must know so much about lathes...
>
>How exactly would you attach a 1" OD x 2" long dowel to a lathe,
>so that you can cut a well-centered 1/4" diameter x 1" long hole
>into the other end?

I would chuck the dowel into my 3 jaw chuck, make sure it was straight by
eyeballing it against the tool rest, putting a jacobs chuck on the tailstock,
and then putting the drill bit in the jacobs chuck.

If metal-working accuracy was needed (rather than what's typically
required for woodworking) a 4 jaw chuck could be used and the dowel
accurately centered with use of a dial indicator.



--
There are no stupid questions, but there are lots of stupid answers.

Larry W. - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

KN

Keith Nuttle

in reply to John Doe on 02/07/2013 6:35 PM

03/07/2013 9:07 PM

On 7/3/2013 8:54 PM, whit3rd wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:35:32 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
>> How to hold a 1" OD x 2" long dowel in a drill?
>
> Make a pot chuck.
>
>> Would it fit snugly inside of a 1 inch hole cutter?
>>
> Yeah, that's the idea; the chuck of most power drills
> is mounted on a (for instance) 3/8"-24tpi threaded
> shaft. You can build a fitting that goes onto that
> shaft, that engages the 1" dowel.
>
> It takes a lathe, and some patience, though.
> Some cheap holesaws use a driven disc with concentric
> circle grooves, you could fairly easily mount some kind
> of suitable chuck on such a disk; do you have
> a small-ish lathe step-jaw chuck handy?
>
Can you glue it into a 1" socket for a ratchet wrench and use it with
1/4 to 3/8 adapter that would be chucked into the drill.


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