I screwed up today, and cut a piece of wood with an embedded nail. I
presume that it's no longer safe to use this blade, because one tooth is
pretty well broken, and many more have shiny flat spots.
I'm coming to appreciate only crying once, and so I'm thinking I should
probably suck it up and buy a WWII as a replacement.
My saw is a POS, and some have said it would be best if I turned it into a
boat anchor. I intend to replace it as soon as practicable, but I'm stuck
with it in the meantime.
Seems to me that since I have to buy a blade anyway, I might as well buy the
WWII, put it on the crappy saw, and then put it on the new saw when I get
one, eventually. Is this a bad plan for some reason?
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>My saw is a POS, and some have said it would be best if I turned it into a
>boat anchor.
This brings up the question, what do you do with it?
If you into fine woodworking get a premium blade but if 90% of your work is
just "carpentry" and you occasionally cut nasty stuff (PVC pipe, aluminum and
boards with nails in them) just get a pretty good blade at the Borg.
If you have a pretty good blade a nail probably won't kill it, only the chance
to make "fine" cuts.
Rich wrote:
> Yeah it is if your going to be cutting nails with it! If I heard you
> correctly in other posts you mentioned you recycle lots of wood from your
> employer. Why not invest in a metal finder, think you can get one for
> about $20 bucks. Think Wizard makes a couple of different models.
Not a bad excuse for picking up another gadget indeed!
Though for the record this is the first time in five years I've ever hit a
nail. I got careless. Amazing how you destroy things when you get
careless, isn't it?
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In article <[email protected]>,
Rico <[email protected]> writes:
>Brett A. Thomas wrote:
>> When and where is the San Mateo WW show? I live in San Carlos, so
>> that'd be mighty convenient to me. I presume at the Expo center?
>>
>> -BAT
>>
>
>http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/sanmateo/V40/index.cvn
Rico,
I suppose I should've googled for that, but thanks much for the URI!
Should we think about a Bay-Area rec.woodworking meetup at or around
the show?
-BAT
Send it back to Forrest. They will fix it. It is no that bad.
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I screwed up today, and cut a piece of wood with an embedded nail. I
> presume that it's no longer safe to use this blade, because one tooth is
> pretty well broken, and many more have shiny flat spots.
>
> I'm coming to appreciate only crying once, and so I'm thinking I should
> probably suck it up and buy a WWII as a replacement.
>
> My saw is a POS, and some have said it would be best if I turned it into a
> boat anchor. I intend to replace it as soon as practicable, but I'm stuck
> with it in the meantime.
>
> Seems to me that since I have to buy a blade anyway, I might as well buy
the
> WWII, put it on the crappy saw, and then put it on the new saw when I get
> one, eventually. Is this a bad plan for some reason?
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> Confirmed post number: 17279 Approximate word count: 518370
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>
could be, Rico. <g> The first WW show I went to was the San Mateo one
last fall. I went crazy there. I forgot how many trips SWMBO and I made
to our van with goodies. Fein vac, PC557, DC, Kreg Jig, etc. I went to
the Sac show and picked up some CMT router bits. I sold my Crapsman to
my neighbor for $225, so I'm happy! It had a hard time cutting thru
much of anything thick. That little motor and slack belts just doesn't
cut it. Pun intended.
dave
Rico wrote:
snip
>
> Dave, are you my reverse image twin? I live in the
> Sacramento area and bought my WWII blade at the San Mateo WW
> show and have an old Crapsman
>
> I just started using my WWII blade on my 52 year old
> Crapsman TS that I inherited from my Dad. It does make a
> difference. The saw wasn't having anything to do with some 1
> 3/4 thick maple with my well used Brog blade, but the WWII
> does a real slick job. It's still about at the limit of the
> 3/4 horse moter though.
>
> I believe I have also convinced myself that it's easy enough
> to change blades that I will continue to use a Borg store
> blade for most work. I have good intentions...
>
> Rico
>
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The only thing I semi-regret is that I got thin-kerf (3/32") Forrest blades
for my contractor's saw. When I got the Unisaw, I wanted the 1/8" blades,
but I was already stuck with 3 of the thin-kerf.
Preston
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I screwed up today, and cut a piece of wood with an embedded nail. I
> presume that it's no longer safe to use this blade, because one tooth is
> pretty well broken, and many more have shiny flat spots.
>
> I'm coming to appreciate only crying once, and so I'm thinking I should
> probably suck it up and buy a WWII as a replacement.
>
> My saw is a POS, and some have said it would be best if I turned it into a
> boat anchor. I intend to replace it as soon as practicable, but I'm stuck
> with it in the meantime.
>
> Seems to me that since I have to buy a blade anyway, I might as well buy
the
> WWII, put it on the crappy saw, and then put it on the new saw when I get
> one, eventually. Is this a bad plan for some reason?
>
> --
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Mike,
that is not a bad plan at all! I bought my WWII while still in
possession of my POS Crapsman TS, because the opportunity to get the
WWII presented itself at the Sacramento WW show. I hadn't yet decided
on which new TS to get, so the WWII sat in a drawer for a few months
'til the Uni was delivered. Had the new saw not been on the horizon, I
probably wudda slapped it on the Crappy arbor and tried it out right
away. I'm sure I would have made a silk purse from a cows ear by doing so.
dave
Rob wrote:
snip
>
>>WWII, put it on the crappy saw, and then put it on the new saw when I get
>>one, eventually. Is this a bad plan for some reason?
>>
>>--
>>Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
>>Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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>>http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>>
>
>
>
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> Mike,
>
> that is not a bad plan at all! I bought my WWII while still in
> possession of my POS Crapsman TS, because the opportunity to get the
> WWII presented itself at the Sacramento WW show. I hadn't yet decided
> on which new TS to get, so the WWII sat in a drawer for a few months
> 'til the Uni was delivered. Had the new saw not been on the horizon, I
> probably wudda slapped it on the Crappy arbor and tried it out right
> away. I'm sure I would have made a silk purse from a cows ear by doing so.
>
> dave
Dave, are you my reverse image twin? I live in the
Sacramento area and bought my WWII blade at the San Mateo WW
show and have an old Crapsman
I just started using my WWII blade on my 52 year old
Crapsman TS that I inherited from my Dad. It does make a
difference. The saw wasn't having anything to do with some 1
3/4 thick maple with my well used Brog blade, but the WWII
does a real slick job. It's still about at the limit of the
3/4 horse moter though.
I believe I have also convinced myself that it's easy enough
to change blades that I will continue to use a Borg store
blade for most work. I have good intentions...
Rico
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Brett A. Thomas wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Rico <[email protected]> writes:
> >Dave, are you my reverse image twin? I live in the
> >Sacramento area and bought my WWII blade at the San Mateo WW
> >show and have an old Crapsman
>
> When and where is the San Mateo WW show? I live in San Carlos, so
> that'd be mighty convenient to me. I presume at the Expo center?
>
> -BAT
>
http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/sanmateo/V40/index.cvn
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Brett A. Thomas wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Rico <[email protected]> writes:
> >Brett A. Thomas wrote:
> >> When and where is the San Mateo WW show? I live in San Carlos, so
> >> that'd be mighty convenient to me. I presume at the Expo center?
> >>
> >> -BAT
> >>
> >
> >http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/sanmateo/V40/index.cvn
>
> Rico,
>
> I suppose I should've googled for that, but thanks much for the URI!
> Should we think about a Bay-Area rec.woodworking meetup at or around
> the show?
>
> -BAT
>
That's a good idea. So far I don't plan on going to the San
Mateo show this year, but it's a long time until the
Sacramento show, so I may break down and go to the San Mateo
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Silvan wrote, wondering if this is really what he meant?
> I screwed up today, and cut a piece of wood with an embedded nail. I
> presume that it's no longer safe to use this blade, because one tooth is
> pretty well broken, and many more have shiny flat spots.
>
> I'm coming to appreciate only crying once, and so I'm thinking I should
> probably suck it up and buy a WWII as a replacement.
>
> My saw is a POS, and some have said it would be best if I turned it into a
> boat anchor. I intend to replace it as soon as practicable, but I'm stuck
> with it in the meantime.
>
> Seems to me that since I have to buy a blade anyway, I might as well buy
> the WWII, put it on the crappy saw, and then put it on the new saw when I
> get
> one, eventually. Is this a bad plan for some reason?
>
Yeah it is if your going to be cutting nails with it! If I heard you
correctly in other posts you mentioned you recycle lots of wood from your
employer. Why not invest in a metal finder, think you can get one for about
$20 bucks. Think Wizard makes a couple of different models.
Rich
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I'd go for it. Get the WWII 40 tooth regular kerf, you can use it on both
saws and you'll have a blade that will last you a while ... you'll obviously
have to quit cutting nails.
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"Silvan" wrote in message
> Seems to me that since I have to buy a blade anyway, I might as well buy
the
> WWII, put it on the crappy saw, and then put it on the new saw when I get
> one, eventually. Is this a bad plan for some reason?
I think the WWII is overblown. I use a Freud 50 T ATBR for general work, but
for specific ripping, prefer the Amana 20T Euro rip blade. You need a great
crosscutter, the WWII will be great, but the Amana 60 or even 80T ATB wil lbe
even better,. So will a Freud.
The best thing to do is tune up teh saw, make sure everythign is square and get
agood blade. Why get a great blade on a saw that can't make use of it?
DarylRos wrote:
> The best thing to do is tune up teh saw, make sure everythign is square
> and get
> agood blade. Why get a great blade on a saw that can't make use of it?
Well, FWIW, since I had to put brakes on SWMBO's car, and since I didn't
want to be sawless any longer, I did exactly that. I can't remember
whether I decided to post the long ramble where I talked about tuning up my
saw or not, but if I didn't, the essence is that I gave it as good of a
tuneup as possible and put a Freud TK960 on it, and the improvement has
been astonishing. Still not a good saw, but it doesn't behave like the saw
I had a couple days ago at all, and I can use it without an
unreasonable-under-the-circumstances amount of post-processing.
I'll not be using it as a boat anchor just yet.
I would have preferred a WWII because rarely is there any product that is so
unanimously agreed to be the very best, but I don't feel like I made a bad
choice under the circumstances. I doubt I would be getting much better
results with a WWII on this saw, so it comes down to the question of having
wasted money on a blade I will no longer need when I do get a real saw and
a WWII. In the long run, I've definitely spent more money for things that
were less useful and useful for a shorter period of time than what I expect
to get out of this, so today is a good day.
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> DarylRos wrote:
>
> > The best thing to do is tune up teh saw, make sure everythign is square
> > and get
> > agood blade. Why get a great blade on a saw that can't make use of it?
>
> Well, FWIW, since I had to put brakes on SWMBO's car, and since I didn't
> want to be sawless any longer, I did exactly that. I can't remember
> whether I decided to post the long ramble where I talked about tuning up my
> saw or not, but if I didn't, the essence is that I gave it as good of a
> tuneup as possible and put a Freud TK960 on it, and the improvement has
> been astonishing. Still not a good saw, but it doesn't behave like the saw
> I had a couple days ago at all, and I can use it without an
> unreasonable-under-the-circumstances amount of post-processing.
First off, let me say that I have never used a WWII, but on my "souped-
up" '86 Grizzly contractor saw w/cast iron wings on a shop-built
cabinet, the $35 Freud thin-kerf ripping blade cuts as well as all the
full-kerf $95 assortment of blades I have used. CMT, FSTool, etc.
My saw is in "tune," with an aftermarket fence (Mule Accusquare of
Canada), and the cuts are great. Most solid wood stuff goes thru the
jointer anyway, and I put a triple-chip, negative hook 60 tooth blade on
for sheet goods.
YMMV,
Kim
Kim Whitmyre writes:
>My saw is in "tune," with an aftermarket fence (Mule Accusquare of
>Canada), and the cuts are great.
As an incidental aside, that's a great fence for a great price. It is simply
but strongly made, easy to set, durable and, IIRC, the price is under $200 US.
Whoops. $209 US.
www.mulecab.com
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Steve , I have small EXTREMELY figured pieces of walnut. They are <1"
and most are 3/4" X 4" X ??? but I can't figure out what to do with
them. I am not into gun grips but was wondering if you used any in
some of your projects (not converting #3-5 into scrub planes!). Also
have 1 piece of birdseye walnut- extremely heavy and unusual. Probably
want to keep it. Also, will be going back to farm this fall and can
set you up with a lot of wood known as Bois de Arc, Osage Orange,
Hedge Apple, Horse Apple, etc. Haave about 80 acres left that I
haven't bulldozed and burned. Any use for that stuff? Surely is yellow
but am told it turns to chochlate brown.
Lawrence
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 03:09:37 GMT, Steve Knight
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 22 Aug 2003 15:45:30 GMT, [email protected] (DarylRos) wrote:
>
>>I think the WWII is overblown. I use a Freud 50 T ATBR for general work, but
>>for specific ripping, prefer the Amana 20T Euro rip blade. You need a great
>>crosscutter, the WWII will be great, but the Amana 60 or even 80T ATB wil lbe
>>even better,. So will a Freud.
>>
>I have a amana 20t rip blade and my wwII 30t blade will rip wood faster and
>cleaner. I am talking 8/4 purpleheart and padouk and other tropicals. and I am
>talking on a jet contractors saw.
> now I can't comment on crosscutting as I don't crosscut on my tablesaw.
In news:[email protected],
Silvan <[email protected]> spewed forth and said:
> I screwed up today, and cut a piece of wood with an embedded nail. I
> presume that it's no longer safe to use this blade, because one tooth
> is pretty well broken, and many more have shiny flat spots.
>
> I'm coming to appreciate only crying once, and so I'm thinking I
> should probably suck it up and buy a WWII as a replacement.
>
> My saw is a POS, and some have said it would be best if I turned it
> into a boat anchor. I intend to replace it as soon as practicable,
> but I'm stuck with it in the meantime.
>
> Seems to me that since I have to buy a blade anyway, I might as well
> buy the WWII, put it on the crappy saw, and then put it on the new
> saw when I get one, eventually. Is this a bad plan for some reason?
hey, the boat anchor was just a suggestion<g>
Great idea IF you already have a great fence. Agoo dfence willmake up
to a large degree for a poor blade but a sorry fence will handicap a
great blade. A good fence will give you greater returns than a great
blade. If you already have a good fence, go for it. Otherwise, I would
putthe money towards a new fence. By the way, for $30, a Fenner
link-belt will produce wonders on your saw. See what others say. I
would opt for link-belt first, fence second, and blade third.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:24:56 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Mike,
>
>that is not a bad plan at all! I bought my WWII while still in
>possession of my POS Crapsman TS, because the opportunity to get the
>WWII presented itself at the Sacramento WW show. I hadn't yet decided
>on which new TS to get, so the WWII sat in a drawer for a few months
>'til the Uni was delivered. Had the new saw not been on the horizon, I
>probably wudda slapped it on the Crappy arbor and tried it out right
>away. I'm sure I would have made a silk purse from a cows ear by doing so.
>
>dave
>
>Rob wrote:
>snip
>>
>>>WWII, put it on the crappy saw, and then put it on the new saw when I get
>>>one, eventually. Is this a bad plan for some reason?
>>>
>>>--
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>>>Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
>>>Confirmed post number: 17279 Approximate word count: 518370
>>>http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
Go for it!
I love my WWII!
Rob
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I screwed up today, and cut a piece of wood with an embedded nail. I
> presume that it's no longer safe to use this blade, because one tooth is
> pretty well broken, and many more have shiny flat spots.
>
> I'm coming to appreciate only crying once, and so I'm thinking I should
> probably suck it up and buy a WWII as a replacement.
>
> My saw is a POS, and some have said it would be best if I turned it into a
> boat anchor. I intend to replace it as soon as practicable, but I'm stuck
> with it in the meantime.
>
> Seems to me that since I have to buy a blade anyway, I might as well buy
the
> WWII, put it on the crappy saw, and then put it on the new saw when I get
> one, eventually. Is this a bad plan for some reason?
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> Confirmed post number: 17279 Approximate word count: 518370
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>