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Robatoy

31/03/2005 10:51 PM

Normalcy returns.

weathered storms before...see ya'll soon.


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DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 4:42 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Dave Hinz
<[email protected]> wrote:

> For the record, news.individual.net seems to have mass-blocked
> the whole batch of 'em. A good ten euros spent for the year,
> already worth it.

Supernews did too. I had no idea what people were talking about until I
went and checked Google.

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

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in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 9:44 AM


Robatoy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "PDQ" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > or some version thereof.
> >
> > we gotta get the moderator to killfile the script kiddies.

Huh?

> >
> > or maybe the FCC
>

Huh?

Oh! I forgot the date...

--

FF

DD

"Dukester"

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 11:09 AM

"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> weathered storms before...see ya'll soon.

When I first read the subject line of this thread I thought "Norm has
ditched to TimeSaver!" Sigh.


DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 5:19 PM

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:05:53 GMT, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
> You notice the flood came on April Fool's Eve......

For the record, news.individual.net seems to have mass-blocked
the whole batch of 'em. A good ten euros spent for the year,
already worth it.

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

04/04/2005 3:02 PM

On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:23:07 GMT, Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:40:28 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>>
>>Can anyone do anything about it?
>
> A good place to start would be an email to [email protected], since that was
> the domain that the garbage was posted through.

Yeah, well, they're about as responsive as a, well, a very non-responsive
thing.

Ww

WD

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

02/04/2005 6:41 PM

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:40:28 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:

Can anyone do anything about it?

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Did anyone try to figure out anything from the headers?
>>They all did seem to have the same abuse link.
>
>Same posting-host, too, which resolves to an address in the optonline.net
>domain.

Di

Dave in Fairfax

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 2:51 PM

Doug Miller wrote:
> Nfilter *does* filter on posting host.
> Not every ISP provides that header, though...

And we thank you very much for the update.

Dave in Fairfax
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"SwampBug"

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 5:45 AM

now if we could just filter on the posting host. . .

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"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
In article <[email protected]>, =
[email protected] wrote:

>Did anyone try to figure out anything from the headers?
>They all did seem to have the same abuse link.

Same posting-host, too, which resolves to an address in the =
optonline.net=20
domain.

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Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

Sw

"SwampBug"

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 11:14 AM

I will revisit Nfilter, i used some time back but did not get really =
into it. thanks.

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"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
In article <5va3e.3023$Qz.2873@okepread05>, "SwampBug" =
<[email protected]> wrote:
>now if we could just filter on the posting host. . .

Nfilter *does* filter on posting host.

Not every ISP provides that header, though...

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Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

R@

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 5:05 PM

You notice the flood came on April Fool's Eve......


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:51:22 -0500, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

>weathered storms before...see ya'll soon.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 11:40 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:

>Did anyone try to figure out anything from the headers?
>They all did seem to have the same abuse link.

Same posting-host, too, which resolves to an address in the optonline.net
domain.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

04/04/2005 5:59 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:23:07 GMT, Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:40:28 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>>>
>>>Can anyone do anything about it?
>>
>> A good place to start would be an email to [email protected], since that
> was
>> the domain that the garbage was posted through.
>
>Yeah, well, they're about as responsive as a, well, a very non-responsive
>thing.
>
So I've discovered. :-(

I had hoped for better, but alas, they're even less responsive than Google. At
least Google sends an automated acknowledgement (even if that's *all* they
do).

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 11:52 AM

In article <5va3e.3023$Qz.2873@okepread05>, "SwampBug" <[email protected]> wrote:
>now if we could just filter on the posting host. . .

Nfilter *does* filter on posting host.

Not every ISP provides that header, though...

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

PK

Paul Kierstead

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

04/04/2005 7:42 PM

Doug Miller wrote:
> So I've discovered. :-(
>
> I had hoped for better, but alas, they're even less responsive than Google. At
> least Google sends an automated acknowledgement (even if that's *all* they
> do).

*Sometimes* google does better (I have observed it). Like some other
hosts, google does not consider OT or abusive posts to be sufficient
grounds for action. I actually agree with their policy, but do wish they
would crack down on those who do fall under the policy.


However, if optonline allows such floods to continue in the future with
any degree of frequency, it would probably be grounds for a UDP, even
though they are quite rare; however, the abuse in this case is so clear
in this case it pretty much indisputable.

But at the end of the day it is probably more productive to ignore them
then escalate things. In the big scope of things they are fly's on the
wall and not worth the effort (not really worth the effort of the messge
come to think of it).

PK

Pu

"PDQ"

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

31/03/2005 10:48 PM

or some version thereof.

we gotta get the moderator to killfile the script kiddies.

or maybe the FCC

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PDQ
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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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| weathered storms before...see ya'll soon.

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

31/03/2005 10:53 PM

[email protected] wrote in news:[email protected]:

> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:59:37 -0500, Robatoy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> "PDQ" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> or some version thereof.
>>>
>>> we gotta get the moderator to killfile the script kiddies.
>>>
>>> or maybe the FCC
>>
>>It's hard to prevent. They usually go away when they get bored.
>
>
> Did anyone try to figure out anything from the headers?
> They all did seem to have the same abuse link.

There were some 'custom' lines in the headers, as I recall.

AUK: the friendly people of AUK ;-)

and some such. While I fiddled with REGEX in xNews, the storm passed, at
least for now.

Preseason baseball is on the tube, and I have another system to setup for
my father. Maybe I'll play later. Script kiddies aren't the only ones who
get bored.

Patriarch

Sw

"SwampBug"

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 11:13 AM

I will look into that. thanks.

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"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
SwampBug wrote:

> now if we could just filter on the posting host. . .

You can. Use Hamster as a news proxy and you can filter on any header.


--=20
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Ww

WD

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

02/04/2005 6:44 PM

On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:45:05 -0600, "SwampBug" <[email protected]> wrote:

I pray Forte Agent's Newsreader will be able to filter posting hosts in version
3 release.

>now if we could just filter on the posting host. . .
>
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>SwampBug
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>
>
>"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Did anyone try to figure out anything from the headers?
>>They all did seem to have the same abuse link.
>
>Same posting-host, too, which resolves to an address in the optonline.net
>domain.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 9:50 AM

SwampBug wrote:

> now if we could just filter on the posting host. . .

You can. Use Hamster as a news proxy and you can filter on any header.


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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 3:56 PM

SwampBug wrote:

> I will revisit Nfilter, i used some time back but did not get really into
> it. thanks.

This particular time the posting host was also showing up in the x-trace,
which all of the offending posts had while some did not have
nntp-posting-host.

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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

31/03/2005 10:59 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"PDQ" <[email protected]> wrote:

> or some version thereof.
>
> we gotta get the moderator to killfile the script kiddies.
>
> or maybe the FCC

It's hard to prevent. They usually go away when they get bored.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 6:15 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>SwampBug wrote:
>
>> now if we could just filter on the posting host. . .
>
>You can. Use Hamster as a news proxy and you can filter on any header.

Ummmm.... isn't Hamster a news *client*?

Perhaps you meant "use Hamster *with* NewsProxy" ?

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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

g

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

31/03/2005 11:34 PM

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:59:37 -0500, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "PDQ" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> or some version thereof.
>>
>> we gotta get the moderator to killfile the script kiddies.
>>
>> or maybe the FCC
>
>It's hard to prevent. They usually go away when they get bored.


Did anyone try to figure out anything from the headers?
They all did seem to have the same abuse link.

Sw

"SwampBug"

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

01/04/2005 7:12 PM

can't design for all contingencies. . .I suppose. <s>

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"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
SwampBug wrote:

> I will revisit Nfilter, i used some time back but did not get really =
into
> it. thanks.

This particular time the posting host was also showing up in the =
x-trace,
which all of the offending posts had while some did not have
nntp-posting-host.

--=20
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Robatoy on 31/03/2005 10:51 PM

03/04/2005 3:23 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:40:28 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
>Can anyone do anything about it?

A good place to start would be an email to [email protected], since that was
the domain that the garbage was posted through.
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> wrote:
>>
>>>Did anyone try to figure out anything from the headers?
>>>They all did seem to have the same abuse link.
>>
>>Same posting-host, too, which resolves to an address in the optonline.net
>>domain.
>

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?


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