I'm looking to upgrade my old Delta benchtop jointer and wanted some
feedback on the Grizzly 8" Jointer with spiral cutting head. I've read some
good reviews as well as some guys that will not tough a Grizzly product. So
what's your opinion? I have access to a Delta DJ-20 X5 for around $800,
which is not a spiral cutting head or the Grizzly 8" delivered with a mobile
base for $1,148.90.
Michael in Dallas
On Mar 24, 11:51 am, "Gaziger" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm looking to upgrade my old Delta benchtop jointer and wanted some
> feedback on the Grizzly 8" Jointer with spiral cutting head. I've read some
> good reviews as well as some guys that will not tough a Grizzly product. So
> what's your opinion? I have access to a Delta DJ-20 X5 for around $800,
> which is not a spiral cutting head or the Grizzly 8" delivered with a mobile
> base for $1,148.90.
>
> Michael in Dallas
I think if you have the money, do it. I know one person who bought a
sprial cutterhead - the one with the single indexing carbide cutters,
not the other kind, and he's really happy with it.
I came into a little bit of money and was able to get the G0586 which
can be converted to a spiral cutterhead but didn't have enough to get
the spiral. Later I think I'll be able to afford the conversion kit.
It costs me more this way I know but if I'd waited till I had the
money I'd still be waiting and I'm quite happy with this 75 inch bed.
But if I coulda, I woulda.
I own this exact machine and I can tell you from the heart, buy it,
you won't regret it. The fit and finish of this machine is nothing
short of spectacular. The cut is smooth as glass. With the indexable
carbide cutters that can be rotated three times before replacement,
you will be jointing a heck of a lot of stock before you have to
replace them. Plus they send you an extra set of carbide cutters with
the machine. Ya just can't beat that. Rotating the carbide cutters
takes all of a few minutes. NO MORE will you have to worry about
getting the height of your knives set correctly. Once the cutters are
rotated, you're back in business.
When I received my machine the first thing I noticed was how long and
incredibly flat that 75 inch bed was. The finish on the cast iron bed
and fence was a mirror finish, very highly polished and dead flat. The
extra long bed is just a joy to look at and work on.
One other thing you will notice is that it doesn't matter which way
you feed your stock. With the grain, against the grain, doesn't
matter, it comes out looking as if the board has been polished with a
buffing pad. If you are jointing wood with figured grain, you will
definitely come to appreciate this jointer very quickly.
I can only speak for myself and will honestly tell you that I know
that I made the correct decision when I purchased this machine. It is
a machine without equal in its class, both price wise and performance.
Steve
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:51:24 GMT, "Gaziger" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm looking to upgrade my old Delta benchtop jointer and wanted some
>feedback on the Grizzly 8" Jointer with spiral cutting head. I've read some
>good reviews as well as some guys that will not tough a Grizzly product. So
>what's your opinion? I have access to a Delta DJ-20 X5 for around $800,
>which is not a spiral cutting head or the Grizzly 8" delivered with a mobile
>base for $1,148.90.
>
>Michael in Dallas
>
Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
: I own this exact machine and I can tell you from the heart, buy it,
: you won't regret it. The fit and finish of this machine is nothing
: short of spectacular. The cut is smooth as glass. With the indexable
: carbide cutters that can be rotated three times before replacement,
: you will be jointing a heck of a lot of stock before you have to
: replace them. Plus they send you an extra set of carbide cutters with
: the machine. Ya just can't beat that. Rotating the carbide cutters
: takes all of a few minutes. NO MORE will you have to worry about
: getting the height of your knives set correctly. Once the cutters are
: rotated, you're back in business.
<snip>
: One other thing you will notice is that it doesn't matter which way
: you feed your stock. With the grain, against the grain, doesn't
: matter, it comes out looking as if the board has been polished with a
: buffing pad. If you are jointing wood with figured grain, you will
: definitely come to appreciate this jointer very quickly.
: I can only speak for myself and will honestly tell you that I know
: that I made the correct decision when I purchased this machine. It is
: a machine without equal in its class, both price wise and performance.
: Steve
I'm curious about how it is that these machines produce
such a good surface -- seems to be better than on a standard
jointer. But each cutting edge is parallel to the beds of the jointer,
right? So how can is cut better than a standard blade does?
On a true spiral-blade jointer, the blade's edge is skewed,
and I understand why that would produce a smoother finish (esp. on
figured woods), since it lowers to effective cutting angle.
-- Andy barss
I do understand what you're saying. I think probably, and I'm no
mechanical engineer, is that with the spiral cutterhead, carbide
cutter inserts, and the fact that there are four rows of cutters on
the head, you have all of these things combining together to provide
an exceptional cut.
I can tell you from practical experience that I don't think that you
could improve the finish of the cut on this jointer. It is something
that you would have to see for yourself.
I do know that Byrd makes a Shelix Head replacement for the G0593.
This cutterhead allows the carbide inserts to be angled to the face of
the wood, so a true shear cut is produced. Honestly though, I would
just find it hard to believe that the finished cut would be any better
than what I'm already getting.
I would really love to see a tool review where they take one Jointer
such as the Grizzly G0586 & G0593 (the 586 is the same jointer as the
593 except that the 586 has HSS knives) and run tests with straight
high speed steel knives, helix spiral HSS knives, a spiral carbide
cutterhead, and a Byrd shelix carbide cutterhead and find out which
produces the best cut and if there is really any marginal difference
in performance over cost and maintanence.
Steve
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 04:13:32 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm curious about how it is that these machines produce
>such a good surface -- seems to be better than on a standard
>jointer. But each cutting edge is parallel to the beds of the jointer,
>right? So how can is cut better than a standard blade does?
>
>
>On a true spiral-blade jointer, the blade's edge is skewed,
>and I understand why that would produce a smoother finish (esp. on
>figured woods), since it lowers to effective cutting angle.
>
>
> -- Andy barss
Our son-in-law has owned a G0500 (?) which is a three-knife predicessor. It
is a great machine. In fact I believe Fine Woodworking gave one of the two
a very high rating. Unusual because Grizzly is not one of their advertisers
and they seldom recognize their existance.
RonB
"Gaziger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm looking to upgrade my old Delta benchtop jointer and wanted some
> feedback on the Grizzly 8" Jointer with spiral cutting head. I've read
> some good reviews as well as some guys that will not tough a Grizzly
> product. So what's your opinion? I have access to a Delta DJ-20 X5 for
> around $800, which is not a spiral cutting head or the Grizzly 8"
> delivered with a mobile base for $1,148.90.
>
> Michael in Dallas
>